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Piers Morgan

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  1. Shut up. It's necessarily about being told you can't speak, but it is about being forced out of jobs perhaps that you love doing because people no longer honour or respect free speech. And I think that is a form of rather insidious cancel culture. And I do think it's a form of censorship. Hence the name of my show, which is whatever happens to me on this show, you know, Mr. Murdoch may get rid of me for bad ratings or he may get rid of me for other reasons to do with whatever he chooses to get rid of me for. But it won't be for having an opinion. And that I can be sure of.

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  2. Well, that's effectively what they did by not apologizing. I was told I had to leave. And by six o'clock that evening, I was gone. People will say, oh, but look at you now, peers. You've got this massive platform you're doing there. Of course I have. But I'm not doing the job that I love doing and that I was good at. And I believe that is a form of censorship. So when I see people saying there's no cancelled culture, I'm like, well, there's certainly a lot of people at much lower rungs of a ladder who are genuinely getting forced out of jobs.

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  3. Yeah, I don't think any journalist of any kind could ever accept an ultimatum where you're forced to apologize for something you believe or you leave the job. I mean, you could, but then you're just, I don't know what you are, you're not a journalist. Why not say?

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  4. I just told you the story had been removed from a job I loved on a very successful show because Meghan Markle demanded I'd be censored. I mean it was a classic form of censorship. So in a way I was playing off what happened to me.

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  5. I don't know if Rupert himself is a massive DeSantis fan or not. All I know is that I think DeSantis is the one to watch and is likely to be the nominee. And I think Trump's attempt at a comeback is going to end in ignominious failure and embarrassment for him. And I wish he hadn't done it.

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  6. I know nothing about the details of it because I've not been involved at all. In my columns for New York Post and on Fox, I've been very clear about my position about the 2020 election, which is Donald Trump lost that election entirely fairly and properly. And his constant whining about having it stolen from him. And I said this to his face in a rather inflammatory interview back in April, his constant whining and trying to re-legislate it and say that it was stolen and the constant sort of big lie or whatever better phrase has come back to bite him. And most of his endorsement picks in the midterms got beaten, especially the ones who were continuing this nonsense. So I think that that's a wake-up call for Donald Trump. And I think that Fox, like me and like a lot of people, think the future of the Republican Party is veering more to the likes of DeSantis than it is going back to Trump.

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  7. Not from, I don't think so. I think that it's just a reality check that Donald Trump was very good for the Republican Party when he won that dramatic election win. Fox, I think, embraced him once they realized that he was quite possibly going to win. And I think that they've gone cool on him now. It looks more like he's a loser. There's nothing particularly new about that for Fox or anybody else.

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  8. I didn't think it had changed much at all about many of the same people were still there. And I got to say, and this, you know, people can believe this or not, but I find it a very friendly collegiate place to work. Everyone's very nice. When I was at CNN, it could be a lot less friendly than Fox, a lot more backbiting, a lot more backstabbing, actually, in some cases. I don't want to mention her names, but Anderson Cooper knows where he is. And I found that a Fox is a different atmosphere. By contrast, the way you look at how networks have changed, what happened at CNN in the last few years was fascinating. You know, they went from being a completely non-partisan, impartial, non-political network to an outright open Trump bashing entity, which I found extraordinary to watch having worked there, because it would have been unthinkable when I was there.

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  9. I'd reasonably told the story about my departure was Rupert happened to be in England at the time. He watched us all go down. It was a huge firestorm in this country. And by the end of that week, my book, which had been sort of going out in the numbers, suddenly went to number one bestseller. It was selling by the bucket load. And I was the center of attention as a kind of flag bearer for free speech. And Rupert Murdoch, I think whatever people think of him, he's always stood for free speech. And he was watching all this go down and he realized I was now available and he'd been thinking about launching a new network in the UK. And so he made approaches. We got talking and we ended up with a pretty wide-ranging deal, including a new network in the UK called Talk TV.

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  10. Well, that had nothing to do with why I left. So that was early on the show. Oh, that was on the Tuesday when our deputy stand in weather guy decided to try and take me down on TV. And that's entirely his prerogative. I don't mind taking that from guests. In fact, I had been taking it from Guess pretty solidly for the previous 24 hours. But I did object to it coming from one of my own team in the way that it was delivered. So I thought I'd better go and have a little calm down. So I went out for 10 minutes. Then I came back, finished the show, actually had a pretty good show that day. We had record ratings, highest ever ratings for the show for that Monday. And as it turned out, most British people agreed with my opinions. And yet here was a media company telling me I wasn't entitled to have my opinion. I think that's a debate about free speech. It's got nothing to do really with what happened to me in terms of the individual details. It's just you should be allowed to express your opinion, particularly if it's

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  11. Vicious and deluded and inaccurate takedown of our royal family as a bunch of callous races. So I went on air as I often did and expressed my very strong opinions about this, which was I wouldn't believe Megan Markle if she read me a weather report, which I still believe today. It was an honestly held opinion. And my co-host, as she often did, Susanna Reed, said the complete opposite and said she completely believed them and felt very sorry for them. And then we had a spirited debate. Other guests came on and hammered me in the main, actually.

    2022-12-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Piers Morgan On Murdoch, Musk and – yes – Meghan Markle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. Well, I was in a strange situation where I was presenting a show called Good Morning Britain. I was one of two of the main presenters. We were fantastically successful. In five years, we trebled the ratings. And by the time I departed, we were probably the hottest show on British television. And then came the Mega Markle Prince Harry interview with Oprah Winfrey. And as I watched it, it aired on Sunday night in America. I watched it very early Monday morning before we went on air. And I was just seething with rage at what I saw as a

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  13. Which I thought was one of the more interesting quotes I've had about me. And for me, Rupert Murdoch is one of the great media titans of my lifetime. And I know he has a lot of people that criticize him, as I do. I don't care. That's my opinion of him.

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  14. Yeah, I mean, I was 28 when Rupert Murder offered me the editorship of the News of the World. It was his biggest selling newspaper in the world at the time. And I was extremely excited. It was an amazing opportunity. I'd only been a columnist, a show business columnist, and he showed extraordinary faith in me and was a brilliant proprietor to work for, very fearless, obviously controversial to many people. But I always found him extremely straightforward to work for. He never told me what to put in the paper. He might give an opinion after I'd published something if he agreed or disagreed, but he didn't ever try and force his views or anything like that into the paper. So I never understood that criticism of him. And I thoroughly enjoy working for him. And then I actually quit, and when I worked for one of the rival newspapers, The Daily Mirror for 10 years and competed against him. And that was fun too. And I think that he admired, I think he once said about me that my balls were bigger than my brains.

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  15. I think it's a scourge on all the houses. I think that there is, and I blame social media a lot for this, I think it whips people up into tribalism. I sort of equate it to when we go back 2,000 years in history and we lived in genuine tribes and we never ventured out of that tribe. Everyone in your tribe would look the same, sound the same, talk the same, have the same attitudes, tastes in food, and so on. And then when we edged out of our tribes, finally, and encountered other tribes who looked different, sounded different, ate different, had different taste, different opinions. Both tribes concluded the only way to resolve matters was to kill each other. And I sort of feel that social media has whipped everybody back into that mindset, whether you're on the right or the left, the only solution is to eradicate your enemy for having the audacity to have a different opinion. And I think that's completely wrong and dangerous.

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  16. It could happen to you, killer bees. I love the way you categorizing this as some problem just for the right. And I do think I'm in a

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  17. They get all mad and grieved, and they're mad about. No question. I have exactly the same view of people who are on the extremities of the right and always have done. My argument about the left at the moment is that I wrote my book as somebody who skews more liberal than not. I used to run one of the liberal newspapers in Britain, The Daily Mirror, but I find that the left has moved into a kind of insane area where it's almost unrecognizable to the word liberal in a way the ultra-awoke left have become a bit like the fascists they profess to hate most because they believe in canceling things, censoring things, all the things which historically we would have looked at for the right and berated them for it. It's almost like a friendly fire. I'm not coming at this from any position other than, yes, I agree they're a right-wing nutter.

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  18. Middle ground, there can be no debate, no consensus. And I think that's a great shame. And I think that I openly admit to being highly opinionated.

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  19. Your podcast makes me laugh. I think that you're an interesting person in this space because I think you're pretty strident with your opinions as I am. I come from a position with all this that I think we've lost an ability to disagree with each other but do it in a civil way. And I don't know why that's happened or when that happened or where it takes us. But I certainly think in any free democratic society we should be able to go hammer and tongues at each other and then go and have a pint or a cup of tea. And I certainly do that with my friends, but I find that there's a generational thing going on where young people, and this is my problem with the sort of more ultra-woke movement, if I want a better phrase, is they seem to have lost the ability to want to engage in that kind of debate. They seem to think that anyone who contradicts their worldview is some kind of enemy. And there can be no

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