YouSaid · the spoken record

Rainn Wilson

lines on the record
83
first
2023-08-28
most recent
2023-08-28
sittings or episodes
1
sources
podcast

Every line below is reproduced as it was said and linked to the record it came from. Nothing here is summarised or generated. Directory · Search · Corrections

  1. Stephen, what a profound pleasure. Thank you for having me on this show. Congratulations on all the incredible work that you do. Thank you for acknowledging the fact that you owe everything to me And that's a

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. Well, part of it was because I wish that I could have been a part of that process of especially people that had been bullied. I guess I just didn't have the tools to give them empathy and capacion and support and then to take an active part in reporting this whole dynamic to the authorities. Because when I go back and replay my high school years and junior high in elementary school years, it's just non-stop bullying. I mean, it was taunting and teasing and taking the piss out and demeaning and belittling and hierarchies. And we may be going a little too far in contemporary society about what qualifies as bullying because it's not criticism and it's not even necessary. having some good natured fun, you know, but I wish I had been more actively a participant in kind of. A part of that three step process.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. That's such an exceptional question. I was reading someone was writing about bullying and they were talking about how bullying is a three-step process like You stop the bully, you say hey, that's not okay, speak up to the bully, maybe don't get in a fight, but speak up to the bully. Tend to the bullied and then report it to an authority. And we often just kind of view bullying as like that first step process of like trying to shut down the bully. And back in the 70s and 80s when I was growing up, there was a hell of a lot of bullying going on. And I feel bad that I didn't bully myself because I was far too nerdy to partake in bullying.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. I've learned how to parent from her so well and our son bless him Walter's eighteen and a half about to go off to college but I always want to Maybe lecture or react a little too much or say the thing I feel that needs saying and my wife is so good and like she'll see me starting to do it and she'll just be like Just this little thing, and I'll be like, and I think, Walter. We'll talk about it later. I take my cues from her literally. She's a conductor of my parenting too.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. I would observe how humans interacted and try and emulate that because I didn't understand it. So if I would like observe people in the lunchroom at my school and they'd come in and someone would say like, hey buddy, how's it going? You have a good weekend? Good to see you. And I would watch it and I would be like, oh, that's how normal people interact. And so I would literally copy it and I would try it out and I'd go up to someone like, hey, buddy, how you doing? Have a good weekend? You know, so for me, I felt like I was an alien, like I was literally like a science fiction film where I was like this alien, like learning about human behavior and interaction and like studying humans and seeking to fit in. And I bring this up because holiday does this stuff so naturally. You know, she just has a natural warmth and.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. You know, it's interesting she also had a very traumatic childhood and a difficult her parents had a very difficult situation and she had a lot of issues in her own way and her own journey. I'll let her tell that story. But she loves very naturally in a way that it's a lot more work for me. So she just has a big heart and is just able to love. Our son and other people and animals. And, you know, I always felt as an analogy I use in my books where because I had such a weirdly fractured childhood.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. She's everything to me. I mean, I am so blessed to have her in my life. She's dealt with me when I've been a raging asshole and she's dealt with me when I've been depressed, when I've let my anxiety get the best of me. We've had a lot of ups and downs in our marriage, and I think that's really important for people to hear. We're soulmates And I really wouldn't have achieved anything that I've achieved without her help and guidance and love and support. And, you know, it all sounds like a cliche, but it's just the truth. And she's really the wisest person that I know. She has a deep, deep wisdom and she knows me better than anyone. So I'm just grateful and I tell her every day. I tell her every day.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. Hell a long time. Yeah, we were an acting class together in 1985. We weren't together as a couple till 1991, really, when she moved to New York.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  9. Say you're sorry and do it faster, you know, and do it better. And the world would be a much better place if everyone around said when I'm wrong, I'm going to promptly admit it. That's just one little gem. There's so many dozens more. Yeah

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  10. You know. So it's again that central spiritual struggle is the ego, is the premises, the primacy, the primalcy of I the self as being separate from everything else and the essential spiritual teaching at the center of every faith tradition is that we're all connected. We're all united. We're all one. This is an illusion of self. So surrender eliminates that illusion of self. But there's so many other nuggets in 12 steps, like one of them, just in the middle of the steps, is when we are wrong, promptly admit it. Like, that's just a really good piece of advice. And you know what? We could all benefit politicians could benefit, CEOs could benefit, people in relationships, parents with their children, people in partnership could benefit like when we're wrong, promptly admit it, promptly being the word, not eventually.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. Your partner's journey, you surrender to that. You don't know what she's going to go live on a commune or worship a mushroom or something like that. Okay, you're on your journey.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. Right, but again, there's great power in that powerlessness. And what do you surrender to? And that's why there's a higher power as well. And boy, there's so many things I wanted to say there. But there's a humility in the process that is missing in contemporary society, right? I'd say we're the least humble that humans have been in our history, all 8 billion of us sharing this planet. So And I think God or a higher power requires a certain humility, like there is a power greater than myself. The ego is the opposite of surrender. The ego wants to control outcomes. The ego wants to control other people, right? As long as we're trying to control other people and control outcomes, we're going to be unhappy. So there's something about surrendering like everyone.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  13. I give up, I throw up the white flag, I can't do this on my own. I need the support of a community, I need to get vulnerable, I need the support of a higher power, and then I find great strength. There's something just so beautiful about that. And the community of the twelve steps is amazing too, like sharing with like-minded alcoholics and getting the support of that community, the fact that they're servant leaders, that there's elections, that it's run, it's the inmates running the asylum, you know. There aren't these kind of leaders. In fact, if there's someone who kind of presents as like a leader in 12 steps, you should be immediately wary of them that they have any kind of answer at all.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  14. I love the 12-step program. That's such a great question. There's going to be people that are way more knowledgeable than I. But I will say there are some essential components of the 12-step program that you write are applicable to everyone and could make everyone's lives better. I think society as a whole could benefit from a lot of the way that the 12 steps work. I think it's the most profound spiritual movement of the last several hundred years. It has transformed millions of people's lives. First of all, there's the idea that There's this wonderful dichotomy at the center of the twelve steps, which is if I surrender, if I admit defeat, if I admit powerlessness, I find great strength. So there's a beautiful spiritual koan at the center of that.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  15. No. It's sitting there, you got to sit the shadow on the lap, almost like a ventriloquist dummy. That's why I love ventriloquist stories and horror films of the dummies that come to life and attack, you know, because that's... That's your shadow is that.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  16. I love you. I love you. You're right here with me. You're part of me. Let's go on this. We're in this together. I got you right where I want you.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  17. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You know, Jung talks about the shadow side, and it's so important and part of the therapeutic process is to get to know one's shadow because to know and embrace and accept and love one's shadow. And I have a dark shadow. It's an addict shadow and it's a miserable shadow and it's self-important and righteous and entitled and this is part of who Raine Wilson is, you know. I'm not going to get rid of those aspects of myself by keeping that shadow at arm's length or locked in a closet or something like that. I have to, you know, keep your enemies closer. There you are, buddy. There you are. Right on the belly. Yeah, you little mean little attict, you know, you little narcissistic entitled asshole.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  18. Heal people that are disenfranchised and bring more joy to people's lives and try and bring spiritual tools to a young generation that I think will make their lives better. There's more I could be doing to that end. And I still have a big ego. You know, I'm still narcissistic and I still want ego satisfaction. And it's always there. It's... They always say an addiction that your addict is in the basement doing push-ups even when, but I would say the same thing about the ego. It's there in the basement doing push-ups, just getting ready to come in and take the reins.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  19. Yeah, I think that I can be a better husband and I think I can be a kinder father and a more compassionate friend. There's still some really basics of human interaction that I haven't quite gotten figured out. Well, because I wasn't really, I didn't learn these things from my parents, right? I didn't learn. You know, connection and compassion in the household that I grew up in. So I've had to, you know, parent my adult self in that direction. And to really, I struggle with making sure that I'm, again, using the tools that God has given me to try and make the world a better place. I think there's a lot more that I could be doing to try and make the world better and to help.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  20. I don't know what the word is, and I ponder this a lot. Like, what's the perfect word? You know, social scientists talk about well-being. So I like that one a lot. That works. It's partially contentment, but it's also partially meaning and purpose and vision. And when I'm in alignment with meaning and purpose and vision, then I feel like I'm vibrating on the right frequency.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  21. and living in God's will, I'm sorry to get all hippy dippy religious now, but to me that's what's driving me now, but it's as long as we're in the battle of the ego, and that's the most ancient human spiritual struggle is the battle of the ego. And psychologists talk about it and prophets talk about it and gurus talk about it, right? So as long as we want to promote the self and the self-will and ego satisfaction, we'll never be happy.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  22. I wanted more. I wanted more opportunities. I wanted more money. I wanted more knowledge. I wanted more wisdom. There's a drive there that can be healthy and a drive that there's an unhealthy aspect to it. So I don't really know the answer to that. I think for now when I look in my life, I still have great ambition. Like I still want Sold Boom as a brand of just kind of starting to think about like how to expand that as a brand. I still want to act in movies. You know, I want to direct. I want to maybe create companies. You know, I created Soul Pancake, maybe create another company or something like that. And there's a lot I want to do, but I'm hoping to bring the best aspects of myself toward that ambition. And for me, that has to do with service and God and utilizing. myself my God given talents and faculties and maximizing those?

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  23. That's a great question. And I don't know the answer to that because there is. Did my chronic dissatisfaction fueled my spiritual drive and also fueled my career drive and my ambition because I was so chronically disenchanted and disaffected that I wanted

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  24. You're grateful for. Like, I'm grateful for Jennifer Fisher and John Kuczynski and Steve Carell, and I'm grateful for a nice paycheck and a healthy son and a beautiful wife. And I'm grateful for, you know, the fans of the office and the fact that I get to, you know, I've trained as an actor my whole life and I get to use those skills and tell wonderful stories and make people laugh. Like if I could have been stayed hooked into that and I did get hooked back into that was I'm describing a period of like three years, three to four years where I was really struggling with that. And then I came around.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  25. That's a great question. I don't know that there's anything that you could have said to me in a couple of sentences or a couple of paragraphs, but I think if you could have encouraged me to go back onto my spiritual journey, back into my spiritual journey, because you're absolutely right. All we have is now. All we have is this next breath, is this breath that we're currently experiencing. And this is where the joy is. And if we're waiting for the joy to be 375 breaths from now or 3,000 breaths from now or 300 breaths from now, we're missing out 100%. And I think gratitude has a great deal because one of the cures for chronic dissatisfaction, the cure for dukkha is gratitude. And I would have been to reign one of the things that would have been really helpful is like rain. You need to start every day with 10 things.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  26. Demean anyone that's struggling to pay bills, and they're going, like, you know, fuck you, Hollywood elitist. You got millions of dollars in the bank. And you don't have to worry about paying the bills. I was there. I was having to worry about paying the bills and it was a struggle for the first 15 years of my career. So I've been there, I know what that's like. And I honor that. So you certainly want to make enough money to, it does take an incredible pressure off your shoulders once you have achieved that. But to think that then you're going to be happy, I mean, you've interviewed a lot of millionaires and a lot of successful people. Like how many of them are really fulfilled, deeply fulfilled and happy?

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  27. And they're still unhappy. And that is so human. It's so quintessentially human. And to think that, oh, if I hit this end result, then I am going to be happy. And that's why I brought it back to that unhappiness that I experienced in my 20s. Like I was an actor. I was from suburban Seattle. Here I was. I had an apartment in New York. I was doing acting. And yet I was really unhappy and miserable and it didn't make any sense because society had always told me like There's this if then proposition like if you achieve X, Y, and Z, if you make a certain amount of money, if you get a certain position, if you're in a certain kind of relationship, if you have a house at a certain level, if you're a member of a certain club or whatever, then you will be happy. Once I achieve this, then I will be happy. That's bullshit. It's absolute and total croc of bullshit. Now, certainly, I'm not meaning to.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  28. How come I can't get more movies and why did my movie I did bomb and why won't they make a deal with me? And I just, I want to have this and I want an office on Warner Brothers, and why can't I get, you know? And I spent a lot of time unnecessary time and angst and anguish in that anxious discontent at a time when I should have just been like, this, it doesn't get better than this. Just enjoy it, drink it in and be a part of this incredible artistic because it was artistic experience. But I think the reason I've been bringing that up in some interviews is I think it's important for people to understand that, you know, here's someone who 15 years into their acting career or 20 years into their acting career because I started playing Dwight when I was 38 years old. has officially made it.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  29. Because it wasn't enough Here I was on the greatest job that I could ever imagine beyond my wildest dreams of that geeky chess playing bassoon playing kid from suburban Seattle that walked around like a pimply serial killer that I would be part of one of the great TV shows of all time I mean give me a break and here I was getting paid like millions of dollars and playing one of the most memorable characters in them getting nominated for awards and I'm working with the most beautiful family of actors and writers imaginable and yet I was like

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  30. We're not going to take all the copies and burn them. You know what I mean? We're going to take a brilliant idea by Ricky and Steven and the BBC. And God bless them. It's astonishingly brilliant. And we're going to kind of run with it instead of 12 episodes. We're going to make 200 episodes. How's that? If you don't like it, you don't have to watch it. But that was an interesting time frame. But yeah, so it's interesting that you bring this up because I was very frustrated because I was on Bill Mar and I was on one other podcast and I was talking about how there were times on the office that I really struggled because I really wasn't happy.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  31. But we had no idea I would have this kind of impact, and we're so deeply grateful and gratified around that. And going back to the English office, it's always like, it's so funny to me in the bassoon king, the other book there I talk a little bit about that competition is so absurd. The anger and vitriol that you Brits brought to the fact that Americans were going to make remake the beloved office. It was so staggering. I mean, it was so enraged and vitriolic. And it was like, guys, guys, the English office isn't going anywhere. You can watch it over and over again.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  32. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm so glad that you enjoyed the office. And I just need to speak to how deeply gratified I am and all of us are that the office has brought so much Ah, serenity and peace and love and upliftment and inspiration to people. I mean, getting on a TV show is one of the hardest things in the world. And then getting on one that lasts is a really hard one. And then getting on one that lasts and is good. And then one that lasts and is good and still has a cultural impact ten years after it has ended is I mean talk about hitting the lottery. I mean we had no idea. We knew we were onto something really special and funny and magical and of course Steve Carell is one of the great comedic actors that will ever live.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  33. And if there was no mother there, and then if I had the father, which is a close second, right? But then my dad, who was so traumatized by being abandoned by his wife and was so already emotionally shut down and he couldn't really access emotions in the best of scenarios, he had been colossally abused as a kid, and his mom died and his dad was abusive and beat him and left him and his sister alone in the house for weeks at a time. It was very Charles Dickens. My dad's case, he was the worst possible person to have to bond to, you know, or to need to bond to. So, you know, if little Walter, if my wife Holliday had left or died for some reason and Walter had to turn to me like, It would have been okay, but there's nothing that fulfills that. That primal human Connectionness then a child and the

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  34. Just for five or ten years, not just for the first 18 years, but for eternity. It's profound. I can't really say intellectually what that means, but it shifts the way you are alive in the world.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  35. Well, having kids is a paradigm shift. Because you have a creature that's in your care and is And it was actually really profound when my son was a year and a half. The same age that I was when my mom left to have the affair. That was a really profound time in my life. It brought up a lot for me emotionally because I saw this toddler kid and he would go out and explore the world and be like, oh, here's a cup and he'd play with some blocks and he'd a tree and he'd had some words going and stuff like that. And then immediately you'd see this look on his face like, oh, I'm out too far. Like, oh, I've swung out too far. And then he'd run back to the shallow end, to his mom, and cling to his mom and like, ah, and mom was home base, right? And I was like, oh, that home base was stripped from me, was taken away from me when I was that same age. I was pretty profound. But this idea that we're responsible, we brought a life into the world and we're responsible for that life.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  36. You know, for a lot of materialists, they could say, well, that's just neurons and biochemicals in your brain that are causing that. And that's true. There are neurons firing and there's biochemicals, but it's so much more than that. You're never going to tell me that that's all it is. And that is just some biological imperative to have the species move forward. And that's why parents love their children. Like what I experienced, I'm sorry, it's just beyond that. You can call me deluded. But that's what spirituality is, is just increasing that love connection. I think that was a dating show in the 90s, love connection. But we want to increase that love connection. And that is what a spiritual journey is about. And we can increase that with ourselves, with nature, with time, with beauty, and with our fellow human beings.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  37. Pis poor Van Nyes, California, you know, county hospital in a hallway, an emergency C-section. And when I held my son, like, again, I had one of those handful of truly transcendent experiences, one of those cosmic experiences of looking into my son's eyes. And they were bright, bright blue. And you've just been ripped from the womb of his mother, and I felt such profound love for him, and it was just like waves after waves of love and just I had tears, but it was almost just beyond tears. It was like this transcendent, like love orgasm that was minutes long as I held him. It just was such gratitude. And

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  38. Listen, we all want more love in our life, right? And love is the most precious and beautiful resource. And I would say maybe you don't believe in spirituality, but or maybe you don't believe in God, but you can focus on love and we can all focus on love. That's something we all have an experience of. And so we want to increase love in our life. That's increasing spirituality. It's the same thing I had a profound experience of love when my son was born he almost died. It was very traumatic birth, an ER room with blood in the middle of the night and a really powerful.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  39. That's a great question. I don't know that I have an answer for that. I mean. I guess, you know, the dictionary definition of spirituality that I use is a focus on the non-material aspects of life. So That's our heart. That's our soul. It's our connection. It's the light that we bring. It's Kind of a connection to what I would call those divine qualities that we all carry to some degree or another spiritual virtues, you could call them. Love, compassion, honesty, humility. These are qualities that don't necessarily serve us as human animals, so there's something they're not about the quest for power. They're not about the quest for status and comfort. They allow us to kind of rise above our kind of humdrum human experience. So that's what I would define spirituality, something in that realm. But I would say that

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  40. Managed to get this fire. Don't turn off the podcast yet. There's more good stuff coming. We're going to talk about the office. I promise.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  41. I mentioned at the very beginning like recognizing the sacred and the divine And we can do this. It's certainly easy to do in the beauty of nature. It's also when you have children and you're raising a kid, you kind of see that the beauty in the kid's natural curiosity and wonder and open-heartedness. And then you experience it in human interaction, you know? I think I view this conversation as sacred. This is a sacred conversation where seeking to understand each other. You're being a service to your incredible audience. They want to learn about how to make themselves better people, how to start a business, how to maximize their health, how to go on a spiritual journey as a human being. They want to learn all this and you're providing the way in to them. So we get to have this conversation. People may not agree with what I'm saying, but it might spark something. And, you know, gratitude and witnessing the sacred and that meditative practice of kind of

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  42. So you have this emotional dissonance and you have this kind of intellectual dissonance. And then in the meditative state, you're just witnessing that. It's almost like you're floating above it and looking down. And then you realize like, oh, my reality is not my thoughts. My reality is not my feelings. My reality is not even just my body and the sensations that my body takes in. There is some kind of aspect of the eye that is the witnesser. And it's getting in touch with that that allows us to get above the static. So meditation is very important to me. The next step of meditation for me is connecting with meditation. The ultimate divine. You can do it in prayer. I have a chapter in the book called The Notorious GOD Getting into God. So Yeah, that's one way to rise above the noise and the static and the swamp is in that practice and then

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  43. Well, it's been a long time since I read Walden Pond and the night Thoreau spent in jail, but I love the transcendentalists because that is really kind of the first authentic American spiritual movement. And this idea that we're seeking transcendence that were, that was kind of the first movement that really acknowledged like we're spiritual beings. So I think it's the unexamined life. I think living in the static and living in the swamp is not taking the time to honor the sacred divinity of aspects of our life and You know, I have a, when you study meditation and you participate in meditation, there's this strange thing that happens where you realize that you The reality of you is the watcher, the observer when you meditate. Your thoughts are still bound.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  44. And this beautiful flower rising above, and how can we in our own little way be a lotus flower and the rest of the swamp is our daily static?

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  45. But he, like many people, he got a little stuck in a way that made me sad because he really just focused on fighting the cancer, which is super, super important, right? So he devoted all of his waking time and energy to research and treatment and diet and everything to fight the cancer, which is super important. And I don't blame him. But it was pretty terrifying for him to consider mortality and the implications thereof. He had a daughter. But I'll never forget him talking about static in that way. And I find that very also very clarifying, you know, in my daily meditation practice. Like, how can I? Again, the Buddha uses the image a lot of the lotus flower. You know, it's floating on top of the swamp. You know, these beautiful lotuses. And there's the swamp and the mire and the bugs and the dirt and the...

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  46. That really resonated with me, and I know a lot of people have mentioned that in the book because we do experience our life as this kind of like buzz of appointments and choppings and zooms and bills to pay and whatnot. That was profoundly impactful. And I would always encourage David to it's a tricky situation, you know, when someone's dying. I don't want to like. God forbid lecture him on death or thinking about it, but I would always just turn it a little bit toward a more profound discussion about the soul and the journey of the soul and the movement of the spirit beyond this corporal 3D. Surround sound experience of being a human being to the realms beyond.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  47. Ah, Dave, one of my best friends, David von Eanken, who was a television director, film director, brilliant guy, wonderful human being. And he just got diagnosed out of nowhere with stage four stomach cancer. I mean, just like out of nowhere. Mid-50s and essentially a death sentence. So I got to spend a lot of time with him in his last year and a half after that diagnosis. And we did weekly beach walks and he said to me several times and he would just grab my arm and he would say. Just static. It's all just static. You've got to get the static out of your life. The emails, the meetings, the career, the appointments, the driving, the traffic, the phone calls, the zooms, it's all just static. It's all noise. And

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  48. My jaw forward and I wake up in the morning and I go I place it on the side of the bed, and here I am this spiritual being having a human experience as Rain Dietrich Wilson Is this fabulous, but this is part of what we need to recognize, and this could help people. This can help people with their mental health struggles is an understanding that we're radiant, luminescent, precious shards of the divine inhabiting these fleshy meat suits for hopefully 80, 90 or 100 years and struggle and suffering and anxiety just comes with the game, baby, is just part of the game.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  49. And moved on. And this is one of the essential messages of Soul Boom, is that we are spiritual beings. We're having this incredible human experience. Look at us having this incredible dialogue right now. And then I'm going to go get an Uber and then I've got to go do some voiceovers. Then I'm going to go play tennis with a friend. And I'm having this, you know, I'm having a relationship with my wife and with my son. I'm learning. I'm growing. I'm being challenged. And it's magnificent. And here's my fleshy, somewhat corpulent 57 year old body that has done pretty well by. It's ridiculous enough. So I get to take my shirt off occasionally as Dwight and people can laugh at my absurdly pale and oblong torso. And I'm fine with it. It's all for comedy, right? And parts of my body are starting to break down. I've got like half hearing in my left ear and I've got mild sleep apnea and I have to wear a mouth appliance.

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  50. It's somewhere else now, and here is his body. And that was such a profound spiritual experience that I knew intellectually from my study, but it's one of those learnings that kind of has to hit you in the gut to make you really understand it and go, oh, and I remember that amazing quote that I often pull out from Father Tehart de Chardin, a Jesuit priest who said famously We are not human beings having a spiritual experience we are spiritual beings having a human experience and that quote which I've always loved I saw just evidenced with my father Oh he's a spiritual being he had a human experience for seventy nine years in this body and now his spiritual reality has passed

    2023-08-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT