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Rana Ayyub

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first: 2022-11-02
most recent: 2022-11-02
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“You know, my father Kavita is midnight's child. He was born in 19 as the same month and the same year that India got independence. And I've often asked this question of him. I said, Abba, what, I mean, as much as I love my Indianness and I'm proud and there is nothing else that I would, I mean, there's nowhere else I would have wanted to be born in whose citizenship I would seek. I wanted, I was very curious as to why my family and my forefathers decided to stay back. And he said, this is our home. And you don't leave your home. You don't leave the land of your forefathers just like that. And that's the only, that's an answer that I've been getting from my uncles and aunts. So I've noticed that each time I would ask them, why didn't our family go to Pakistan? They would say, why Pakistan? We are North Indians. Our family has lived in Uttar Pradesh. Our generations of our family has lived in Uttar Pradesh for North Indian state for.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As a part of their fundamental right to wear it, they are being stopped, are being heckled by Hindu nationalists from going to school just because they are wearing a hijab. So these are just a very few examples on the state-enabled sanctioned Islamophobia in India, which is which Directly threatens the 220 million Muslim population in India, the third largest in the world who now feel like victims in their own country. They don't feel like equal citizens.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“agreed that the demolition of the Babri Masjid was a criminal act, it goes on to give the Masjid premises to Hindu nationalist and the Prime Minister of India in the middle of COVID-19 desermi poja lays the foundation stone of the temple It does not stop with Babari. It goes on with now we have the Gyan Vapi proceedings where Hindu nationalists and Hindu organizations are saying that beneath many other temples like Gyan Vapi there is a Shiv temple beneath the mosque. So every day in India is being made into a nightmare for Muslims, their religious practices look at the hijab ban while Iran in women in Iran are fighting to not wear the hijab this this hegemony of men in India the bodies of Muslim women are being used as a playground for fascists where Muslim women in Karnataka who want to wear it”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, of course, the triple the log bill, then citizenship amendment act, which basically discredits or delegitimizes Muslims as citizens of this country. So India's according to the Act citizenship will be given to persecuted minorities from neighboring countries except Muslims. And now the Citizenship Amendment Act along with the population bill seeks to delegitimize and throughout Muslims who have been living in India for decades. So these are the practices that are being brought in day in, day out. Uniform civil code, the Babri Masjid, the Babri Masjid judgment wherein while in earlier Supreme Court judgment come”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For the outside world, Mr. Modi presented it as an attempt to liberate Muslim women, which a lot of saviors in the West have done in the past. Everybody wants to liberate what they see as backward Indian Muslim women, but what they were actually doing and which we now see a clear picture is they were attacking Muslim religious practices to make it to criminalize Muslim men and throw them behind bars. I mean, as a Muslim woman, I completely detest the practice of triple Talak because it is not something that even Islamic countries practice. But here the Modi government was not doing it with the intent to save women, if Muslim women, if that was the intent, then Bilki's Banu, a victim of the Gujarat genocide of 2002, who was gangraped and her family members killed. Her killers would not be out on remission.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We'll Kavita to begin with as soon as Mr. Modi came to power. I think one of the most disturbing features was the lynching of Muslims on alleged allegations of consuming beef. And I remember this case of Pelu Khan and Eklaq back in 2015 when they were murdered for allegedly consuming beef and the cops went to their place to investigate they checked the refrigerators of the deceased to check if the meat was actually beef or other flesh. So that and one of the cabinet ministers in Mr. Modi's government, an important cabinet minister, later went on to honor and garland those people who had killed these Muslims on allegation of consumption of beef. That's how we start with.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, there was a time that we used to where secularism was a word that would often be used by leaders in power to espouse a pluralistic approach of governance. But ever since Mr. Moti has come to power in the last eight years, Secularism has been conveniently absent from discourses that are enabled by the state. Secularism as a term is now only relegated to editorials written by people who want to keep the idea of India alive. Secularism is an idea, is something that is only cherished by those who have been standing up against the divisive and bigoted politics that India has been witnessing.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is under attack, and I see this not just as a Muslim, a practicing Muslim in India, but as a journalist and a citizen of this country who has believed in the ideals of the Constitution of India.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“While we are living in India, the 75th year of Indian independence, Javahar Lal Nehru was absent from the Prime Minister Narendra Narendra Modi's own election day speech. He has been removed from all government publications on Independence Day. So that kind of explains in a way where India is headed, where secularism seems to be a terrible word. It seems to be a word that a majority of Hindu Indians detest because as many of them say that Muslims have 57 countries to go to, why India leave India to the Hindus. So we have on the 75th year of Indian independence, I think we have many reasons to worry. And the foremost being the secular values which India took great pride in, the pluralism, the diversity.”
2022-11-02 · Intelligence Squared · India at 75 – Secularism and the Rise of Hindu Nationalism, with Rana Ayyub · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT