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Rana el Kaliouby

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“Thanks for listening to this conversation with Rana El Kalyubi. To support this podcast, please check out our sponsors in the description. And now let me leave you with some words from Helen Kell The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart. Thank you for listening and hope to see you next time.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All right, well, I think we started on love and ended on love. This was an incredible conversation, Ron. Thank you so much. You're an incredible person. Thank you for everything you're doing in AI, in the space of just caring about humanity, human emotion, about love, and being an inspiration to a huge number of people in robotics, in AI, in science, in the world in general. So thank you for talking today. It's an honor.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it is like we've been talking about an interesting question whether some of that, whether one day we'll be able to love a toaster. It's some small”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh my god. Yeah. It's weird I mean, it's beautiful. It's beautiful to see, and also social happiness. Speaking of which, what role Do you think love plays in the human condition? Love?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And almost something to actually live and fight and work for, like having a family. It's fascinating to see because you would think kids would be a hit on productivity, but they're not for a lot of really successful people. They're like an engine of...”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something like this. I put very so like there's you're always trapped in this race. I put a lot of emphasis on. Living below my means always. And so there's a lot of freedom to do whatever the heart desires. But everyone has to decide what's the right thing for them. For some people, having a lot of responsibilities, like a house they can barely afford or having a lot of kids, the responsibility side of that. Is really helps them get their shit together. Like, all right, I need to be really focused and good. Some of the most successful people I know have kids, and the kids bring out the best of them. They make them more productive, less productive.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because, like, a lot of people get lost in the rat race and they And they also financially, whenever you get a raise, they'll get like a bigger house.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Especially engineering curricula. So I think you have to learn that skill, but once you learn it, you can maybe, because you can be a little bit on autopilot and use that momentum and then allow yourself to be lost in the flow of life, you know, just kind of. Or also give, like. I worked pretty hard to allow myself to have the freedom to do that. That's really.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I honestly think, especially with kids, much better to have a plan and have goals and so on because you have to. You have to learn the muscle of what it feels like to get stuff done. But I think once you learn that there's flexibility for me, because I spend most of my life with goal setting and so on. Gone good with grades and school. I mean, school, if you want to be successful at school, the kind of stuff in high school and college the kids have to do in terms of managing their time and getting so much stuff done. It's like... Know taking five, six, seven classes in college, they're like that would break the spirit of most humans if they took one of them later in life. It's like really difficult stuff.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a balance, of course. Many moments of genius will not come from planning and goals. Still have to build factories and you still have to manufacturing, you still have to deliver, and there's still deadlines and all that kind of stuff. For that, it's good to have”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a lot of complexity to that story. But that's the only thing, honestly, I dream of doing. So I imagine a world that... That I could help create, but it's not, um, There's no steps along the way. And I think I'm just kind of stumbling around and following happiness and working my ass off in almost like an ant does in random directions. But a lot of people, a lot of successful people around me say this you should have a plan, you should have a clear goal, you have a goal at the end of the month, you have a goal at the end of the year. I don't, I don't, I don't. A balance to be struck, of course, but there's something to be said about really making sure that you're living life to the fullest, that goals can actually get in the way of.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My goal setting is very like. Like the affirmations is very. It's almost, I don't know how to put it into words, but it's a little bit like. What my heart yearns for. And I guess in the space of emotions more than in the space of this will be like in the rational space. I just Tried to picture a world that I would like to be in, and that world is not clearly pictured. It is mostly in the emotional world. I mean, I think about that from robots. I have this desire, I've had it my whole life to, well, they took different shapes, but I think once I discovered AI, the desire was to I think in the context of this conversation, it could be easily easier described as basically a social robotics company. And that's something I dreamed of doing. And”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, taking a leap into all kinds of things. I think he tweeted like you went on vacation by yourself or something like this. And just going, just taking the leap, doing it. And enjoying it, enjoying the moment, enjoying the weeks, enjoying not looking at some kind of career ladder next step and so on. Yeah, there's something to that, like overplanning too. I'm surrounded by a lot of people that kind of, so I don't plan.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then beyond just women just broadly across all different measures of diversity and so on. Let me ask you to put on your wise sage hat. He already gave advice on startups and just advice. For women, but in general advice for folks in high school or college today how to have a career they can be proud of how to have a life they can be proud of. I suppose you have to give this kind of advice to your kids.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so that takes time, of course, but there's been quite a lot of progress. But yeah, for the next Mark Zuckerberg to be a woman and all that kind of stuff, because that's just like a huge number of wealth generated by. Women and then controlled by women, then allocated by women and all that kind of”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You also, in the tweet thread about it, mentioned is this a known concept, random rich dudes, R-R-D-S. And saying that there should be random rich women, I guess. The dude's version of the women version of dudes, ladies? I don't know. Is this a technical term? Is this known random”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, you have to, what, I guess you have to figure out if this kind of person is going to be able to ride the roller coaster. Like of many pivots and challenges and all that kind of stuff. And if the space of ideas they're working in is interesting The way they think about the world, yeah, because if it's successful, the thing they end up with might be very different. The reason it's successful for it.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's precede? What are the different stages? And what's the most exciting stage? Or what's interesting about every stage, I guess.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sometimes it's funny, but sometimes it's unclear exactly. I'll hear people tell me in the talk for a while and it sounds cool. They paint a picture of a world, but then when you try to summarize it, you're not exactly clear of maybe what the core powerful idea is. You can't just build another Facebook. There has to be a Has to be a core simple to explain idea that then you can or can't get excited about, but it's there. Yeah. How do you ultimately. Pick who you think would be successful. So it's not just about the thing you're excited about. Like there's other stuff.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Better or worse. I forget what the vowels usually sound like. For better or worse? No. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. Anyway, it's romantic and deep and you're in it for a while. It's not just about the money. You tweet about going to your first capital camp investing get together. That you learned a lot. So, this is about. Investing So, what have you learned from that? What have you learned about investing in general? From both, because you've been on both ends of it.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Raising money, but also raising money from the right sources, from the ultimately don't hinder you but help you, empower you, all that kind of stuff. What advice would you give there? You successfully raised money many times in your life.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what about finding people, hiring people? If you care about people as much as you do, it seems like such a difficult thing to hire the right people.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's actually often a good sign that if you enjoy a thing. Enjoy a thing, or you have a specific problem that you'd like to solve. That's a good end of one to focus on.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You could start to actually discuss okay, what is the essential thing about Jibo? What is the cheapest way I can have a screen? What's the cheapest way I can have a rotating base? All that kind of stuff. And then you get down. Continuously drive down costs. Speaking of which, you have launched an extremely successful company. You have helped others. You've invested in companies. Can you give advice on how to start? A successful company.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you have to build a robotics company, you have to, you're not building one robot. You're building hopefully millions of robots. You have to figure out how to do that where the final thing, I mean, if it's Jibo type a robot, is there a reason why Jibo, like we can have this lengthy discussion, is there a reason why Jibo has to be over $100?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's secondary how to manufacture. No, you have to think like the Tesla bought folks from First Principles, what is the fewest number of components, the cheapest components, how can I build it as much in-house as possible without having to consider all the complexities of a supply chain, all that kind of stuff?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's the focus. The engineering focus isn't, I would say, you can also criticize him for that. Is they're not focused on the experience of the robot. They're focused on how to get this thing. To do the basic stuff that the humanoid form requires to do as cheap as possible, then the fewest number of actuators, the fewest numbers of motors, the increasing efficiency, they decrease the weight, all that kind of stuff.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One of the things I'm really excited with Tesla bot is the people working on it. And that's probably the criticism I would apply to some of the other folks who worked on social robots is the people working on Tesla bot know how to. They're focused on and know how to do mass manufacture and create a product that's super cheap.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Niche thing and focus on it, but in some sense it's not a success story because they didn't build any other robot, like any other, it didn't expand into all kinds of robotics. Like once you're in the home, maybe that's what happens with Amazon is they'll flourish into all kinds of other robots. But do you have a sense, by the way, why it's so difficult to build a robotics company? Like why so many companies have failed?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think if we just look at Jibo as an example. Feel like most of the problem, the challenge, the opportunity of social connection between an AI system and a human being does not require you to also solve the problem of robot manipulation and bipedal mobility. I think you could do that with just a screen, honestly. But there's something about the interface of Jibo it can rotate and so on that's also compelling. But you get to see all these robot companies that fail, incredible companies like Jibo and iRobot in some sense is a big success story that was able to find”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the time. I definitely think that the time is now, like this decade for social robots. Whether the humanoid form is right, I don't think so, no.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so the possibility to me, it's exciting to see both Atlas developed by Boston Dynamics and anyone, including Tesla, trying to make humanoid robots cheaper and more effective. The obvious way transforms the world is social robotics to me versus automation of tasks in the factory. So yeah, I just wanted, in case that was something you were interested in, because I find its application of social robotics super interesting.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I know it's designed to do, but I have a different perspective on it, but it's designed to, it's a humanoid form, and it's designed to, for automation tasks in the same way that industrial robot arms automate tasks in the factory. So it's designed to automate tasks in the factory. I think the humanoid form is what we're talking about before. Is one that we connect with us human beings. Anything legged, honestly, but the humanoid form especially, We anthropomorphizes it most intensely.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they struggle with this kind of stuff. In fact, when these topics are brought up, people always get like nervous. And I think. You get nervous about it. I mean, that way to earn people's trust is not by like, ooh, don't talk about this. Just be open, be frank, be transparent, and also create a culture of where it radiates. At every level, from engineer to CEO that you're good people that have common sense idea of what it means to respect basic human rights and the privacy of people and all that kind of stuff. And I think that propagates throughout the, that's the best PR, which is like, over time, you understand that these are good folks doing good things.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Amazon is not, it's such a tricky thing for a company to get right, which is to earn the trust. I don't think Alexa's earned people's trust quite yet.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Taking security very seriously. I actually don't know how that trust was earned with smartphones. I think I just started to provide a lot of positive value into your life where you just took it in. And then the company over time has shown that it takes privacy very seriously, that kind of stuff. But I just, Amazon is not always in its social robots communicated this is a trustworthy thing, both in terms of culture and competence. Because I think privacy is not just about what you intend to do, but also how good are you at doing that kind of thing. So that's a really hard problem to solve.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They have a camera because the thing they advertised I had my own cameras too, but the camera on the new Roomba, they have state-of-the-art poop detection as they advertised, which is a very difficult apparently it's a big problem for vacuum cleaners is, you know, if they go over dog poop, it just runs it over and creates a giant mess. They have apparently they collected a huge amount of data on a different shapes and looks and whatever of poop and now they're able to avoid it and so on. They're very proud of this. So there is a camera, but you don't think of it as having a camera. Yeah, you don't think of it as having a camera because you've grown to trust it, I guess, because our phones, at least most of us seem to trust. This phone, even though there's a camera looking directly at you. I think that if you trust that the company”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's a giant. It's just a bunch of electronics everywhere. Six or seven computers, I have robots, or legged robots, as small robots and big robots. It's just giant. Just piles of robot stuff. And yeah but including the Roombas, they're being used for their body and intelligence, but not for their purpose. I've changed repurposed them for other purposes, for deeper, more meaningful purposes than just like the bottombot. Yeah. Which brings a lot of people happiness, I'm sure.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I programmed. I don't use Arumbo for people that have been to my place, they're like, Yeah, you definitely don't use these Roombas.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If I'm being honest, Amazon is not exactly have a track record of winning over people in terms of trust. Now, that said, it's a really difficult problem for a human being to let a robot in their home Has a camera on it. That's really, really, really tough. And I think Roomba actually To think about this, but I'm pretty sure now or for some time already has had cameras because they're doing the most recent room, but I have so many Roombas.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You tweeted that I'm excited about Amazon's acquisition of Iroba. I think it's a super interesting, just given the trajectory of which you're part of, of these honestly small number of companies that are playing in this space that are like trying to have an impact on human beings. So it is an interesting moment in time that Amazon would acquire iBobot. You tweet, I imagine a future where home robots are as ubiquitous as microwaves or toasters. Here are three reasons why I think this is exciting. If you remember, I can look it up. Why is this exciting to you?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Low tech boat. Get away from get closer to nature boat. I guess going out into the ocean is also. Is also getting closer to nature in some deep sense. I mean, I guess that's why people love it. The enormity of the water just underneath you, yeah. I love the I love both. I love salt water. It was like the big and just this humbling to be in front of this giant thing that's so powerful that was here before us and be here after, but also love the peace of a small wooded lake. Everything's calm.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. Oh, well. Not in that way. I do like to get on the lake or a river and fish from a boat. But that's not voting That's the difference. That's what's different.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, car companies are funny because they have their own like, I mean, that's why people get cars still. I hope that changes, but they get it because it's a certain feel and look and they become proud like... Mercedes Benz or BMW or whatever and that's their thing. That's the family brand or something like that or Ford or GM whatever. They stick to that thing. Interesting. It's like it should be, I don't know, it should be a little more about the technology inside. And I suppose there too there could be a branding, like a very specific style of luxury or fun. All that kind of stuff”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you see yourself as a role of nudging, of basically coming up with solutions essentially? And then the car manufacturers kind of put their own little spin on it.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, what are the challenges you're tackling with SmartEye currently? What's like the trickiest things to get? Is it basically convincing more and more car companies that having AI inside the car is a good idea? Or is there some... Is there more technical algorithmic challenges? What's been keeping you mentally busy?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And you're going to be like, Lexis, this is my new favorite person. I guarantee you. And if you guys somehow don't know Andrew Huberman and you care about your well-being, You should definitely listen to them. I love you, Andrew. Anyway Were we talking about? Oh, alcohol and detecting alcohol. So, this is a problem you care about and you're trying to solve.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not like this is what the science says, but this is literally what you should be doing according to science. So he's really big and there's a lot of recommendations. He does, which several of them I definitely don't do, like get some light. As soon as possible from waking up and like for prolonged periods of time.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“His whole thing. This is great. He's a legit scientist, really well published, but in his podcast. What he does, he's not talking about his own work. He's like a human encyclopedia of papers. And so his whole thing is he takes the topic and in a very fast, you mentioned atomic habits, like very clear way, summarizes the research in a way that leads to protocols of what you should do. He's really big on like...”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, you don't know Andrew Huberman. Okay, listen, you listen to it. It's called Huberman Lab Podcast. This is your assignment. Just listen to one.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source