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Rebecca Long-Bailey

lines on the record: 47
first: 2020-03-06
most recent: 2020-03-06
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Started Peaky Blinders and I got to the third episode and it was a bit boring. But everyone else that's watched it says that later on it becomes more exciting. So probably just have to push on through, don't we?”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not boxing, no. Box sets. Box sets. And I need to find a new good box set because we've just come to the end of watching this box set on Netflix called Queen of the South, which is about this woman who becomes the leader of Mexican drugs cartels, a bit weird, but it's funny and it's good. And I need one to replace that. I liked madmen”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm going to go in, open the door, go up store, see the king and my husband give them a cuddle. Then I'm going to go upstairs. I'm going to get my gym jams on, as I call them. And then I'm going to go downstairs, have something tasty for my tea and watch Telly and get ready for Friday, which is constituency day.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There were a lot of people pushing for that position in the end, and there was a lot within our membership who wanted to see that happen, and indeed there were probably a lot of members who wanted us to take a more pro-rejoin the EU position. But my view has always been that that would be disastrous. And I think we saw the disaster that was created with our position. It would have been interesting to see how it would have gone the other way if we'd have taken a more strong position. Would we have lost seats in very pro-Remain constituencies? I suspect not, but that could have happened.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My original position was let's just get a good deal and move on. But obviously, we were in a very difficult position within the party because we knew how passionately people felt about this.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it was the perfect storm, the general election, because we had, it wasn't a normal general election in terms of just setting out your stall and talking about policies. We had the added issue of Brexit and the way that we'd mishandled that and we didn't have a coherent message. And the Brexit debate, and I know, because I come from a leave constituency and the anger that I felt within the community was palpable. They didn't know what we'd been doing within Parliament. They thought we were playing parliamentary games to try and overturn the result of the referendum. They thought that our Brexit position overall was to force a second referendum that would result in us rejoining the European Union. And then when we were asked on the doorstep, well, you know, if we do have a second referendum, how are you going to vote? Are you going to vote for your deal or are you going to vote for Remain? And you had to say, well, I don't know because we'll have to see what the deal looks like. And it was an absurd position to be in. And that was no match for the get Brexit done constantly. You wish in a way you'd stuck to your...”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I hope so. I mean, we've got three and a half weeks left. And I think certainly I've been trying to push the debate on policy and hoping that the other candidates respond to that. So we'll see what happens.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's been a bit flat, and that's what's upset me, really. I think The time of year hasn't helped because everybody's depressed after Christmas anyway. But I think we've all been going through what I can only describe as a grieving process after the scale of the defeat that we faced. And a lot of Labour members are questioning what they believe in versus what they think we need to do to win a general election. And it's been an ongoing kind of battle within their own souls, if you like, on that basis. But what I'd hoped would happen was that each of the leadership candidates would get to the stage where we were talking about policy and what we believe in in acute detail. And that hasn't happened. And we've all said nice things about sticking to our labour values and all the rest of it. But what does that really mean and how can Labour members differentiate between us all? Because they're going to be in for a shock with whoever wins if we've not been clear at this stage about what direction we're going to take the party in.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It would, yeah. I honestly don't have a problem with the royal family. And I think in terms of, because the next question will come would you abolish the monarchy? I think we've got more important things to concentrate on, quite frankly”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not about me. I just think it's important not to bring religion into the political sphere in the way that it alienates people in terms of how their faith differentiates them politically, because that should never be the case.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I I just think it's bizarre talking about religion. Don't talk about religion. I mean, we're talking about politics, but you don't talk about religion”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The core values of all mainstream religions are about caring for those within your society, and that's a positive thing. And that's something that as politicians, separate from faith, we should all hopefully, I would have thought, believe in anyway. And it should drive everything that we're doing, even non-religious people in the Labour Party believe in that. That's a fantastic thing. But in terms of other values, I think I'm not unlike many people in terms of their religion. There are certain elements that I like and there are certain elements that I don't agree with very clearly.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In terms of politics, your faith is completely separate. Your faith is your own personal thing about what you believe in, and whether you believe in God or not shouldn't really matter politically. It's your moral outlook and your social values.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your faith is separate from politics and you wouldn't ask that question if I was a Muslim or I was Jewish you wouldn't say oh how does your faith impact on your politics but yeah it seemed acceptable to ask me that if I was a Catholic”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I often get quite staggered when people ask me questions about that because it's become an issue in this leadership campaign for some reason.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is luck because what happened to me, so I didn't go to a Russell Group Red Brick University. And I knew that to get into the kind of law firm that I ended up working for, you usually need to go to Oxford or Cambridge or have a first or be outstanding or related to somebody in the law firm. And I went into that law firm where I got my training contract. And I remember working for a partner there. And I started off as an admin assistant. And then very quickly said, oh, you're actually, you know, you're beyond an admin assistant. We'll make you into a paralegal. And if you do your law courses to become a solicitor part-time, maybe there'll be a training contract for you at the end of it. And he fought my corner. He fought my corner in that law firm to give me a training contract when most of the training contracts were going out to Oxford and Cambridge graduates and I never would have had the life that I had if it wasn't for that man seeing something in me and being in that right place at the right time.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But yeah, but you know, we're proud, and you know, the same for my husband is that he wasn't given a silver spoon and he had a selection of lucky breaks in his life to achieve what he did. And life shouldn't be like that. It shouldn't be lucky breaks. Everybody should have the same opportunity to achieve in life. And that's not what it is.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're doing really well. I'm proud of my Steve. He was quite pleased with that article, by the way, because he showed it to me. He was like, I'm a successful global marketing director. Oh, that's in the mail. I know you all love. I know you are.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did have a nice life. We weren't on the poverty line. I wasn't living on the streets and it's not a competition about who's the most socialist in the Labour Party based on how poor you were growing up. This is about making sure that everybody can have the kind of life that I have now and they can aspire to that. And at the moment we don't have a society or an educational system or the support for people to be able to achieve that.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a nice town, that's what I do see. So, but on the issue of where my dad worked, that was a clear misrepresentation of what I'd said. My dad did work at a dock in Salford. I've just said that earlier, worked at Barton Docks. That didn't close when I was two. It closed when I was about eight or nine. But you see the broader points of me. But the broader point, and this is the important thing about the Labour Party trying to set itself up as the party of aspiration, is that, yes, we struggled when I was younger. We did move to a village in Cheshire, but we still had a modest life, but we still struggled with debt. And behind closed doors, we were struggling despite the fact that to the rest of the community, we would never have wanted them to see that in a million years.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I'm trying to say, that's exactly what I'm trying to say, and it's we've got to recognize that many people face hardship in the lives, but at the same time they're very proud of what they've achieved and they want to do a bit better. And we've got to celebrate that. And it is about aspiration, but it's not about my story being one of a kind and climbing the ladder of social mobility, if you like, and doing well in life, whereas everybody else doesn't. And they work all the hours God sends, but they don't earn enough to have a nice home, a decent car, be able to go on holiday. It's about making sure that people realize that all of their aspirations can be realised.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because John Mc No, I mean, this is the thing that there was a lot of speculation about there being some sort of a succession plan to Jeremy and John. And there wasn't because we were all in the background trying to win the general election. And I'd been working on a lot of the policies. I was happy to be a backroom person developing the ideas. I never thought I'd be out there front and centre, but I realized when we lost that election how important those policies were and how we needed to adapt and build on them if we were going to be within any chance of reaching a Labour government in the future.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I wasn't even thinking of becoming an MP then. All I wanted to do was get involved in our local Labour Party. I had no intentions. And even a few years later, when somebody suggested to me, why don't you become an MP? I laughed because I thought, you know, somebody like me who's only just joined the party, these things will have been organised for the favoured sons and favoured daughters, somebody who just rocks up and wants to change the world is not going to get a look in on these sorts of things.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Want to do it when they never pushed me to go into politics, they wanted me to be politically aware, but they wanted me to have a career. And choices, as my mum said, they wanted me to do well in life. There was never an intention for me to become involved in politics. That only happened later, as I say, when I snapped, when I saw what was happening.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It wasn't just PFI, it was also a wider understanding of what happened. I saw the PFI element and that made me very angry because it didn't make any economic sense to me. And I spoke to NHS managers at the time about it, and their hands were tied because they couldn't use any other option to deliver the health centres and the hospitals that they needed. But there were also the wider cuts to the NHS and the breakup of providers and commissioners that I wasn't happy with either.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would act on behalf of the primary care trust usually at the time. Now, in terms of PFI That was something that was inherent within the NHS at the time, and our firm did act on behalf of primary care trusts specifically and hospitals in some of those processes, but the problem was that every single contract after that for at least thirty years, even if you weren't involved in the PFI deal itself, you'd still be looking at the terms and conditions that had been imposed 30 years ago. And that's what opened my eyes to what PFI was doing to me. And you're saying that's what...”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the department that I worked for was the healthcare department of a law firm. And that department was created when the NHS outsourced its legal in-house people. And the two people that ran the department used to work for the Merseyside Regional Health Authority, as it was then known. Now, it did a wide range of work. It did all the way through from coroner's inquests and malpractice within hospitals all the way through to the contracts that were required to deliver services within the NHS. So I did a wide range of things, but predominantly my work was focused on delivering joint contracts between local authorities and the NHS itself, but I also dealt with the estates of the NHS. So if you need, if a GP, for example, took a lease on a health centre, they'd have to have a lease contract put in place for them.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And lots of the Labour Party members in the meeting agreed with it, and I became enraged because I knew what was happening to the NHS. And we were driving home that night. And I remember saying to my mum, I said, mum, I knew I said I was going to leave you to it. But if I don't get involved in the Labour Party and try and do something about this, then we're doomed forever. And that's when it starts.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I said, I'll go to some meetings with you, and once you've made some little Labour Party friends, I'll leave you to it and I'll go about the rest of my life. And I remember going to that first meeting, I think it was a branch Labour Party meeting in Frods And we were sat there, and after all the niceties of like, oh, who are you, and the minutes of the last meeting and all that sort of stuff, they started having a discussion. And I remember vividly one gentleman starting to talk about the NHS. And he said to the meeting, I think we need to means test hospital meals if people can pay for hospital meals. They should pay for them.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was working for a company at the time that was doing our department did work predominantly for the NHS and I saw what was happening to the NHS both under a previous Labour government and under the new Conservative government in 2010 and I became very frightened at what I saw and that corresponded with my mum retiring from work and she was driving my dad mad round the house.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I mean, my parents were too busy working, but they were interested in politics. My dad was involved in the sense that he was a trade union representative. And we talked about politics in that sense, but they never became involved until later in life. And that kind of mirrors my journey into politics, really, because I was always politically aware, but I did what everyone else I grew up was supposed to do. We tried to improve our lives and escape the insecurity that our parents had faced by working hard and trying to get good jobs. And eventually I did. And then I remember questioning how well I'd done compared to a lot of people that I grew up with. And it wasn't down to me being more clever than they were. It was luck and being in the right place at the right time. And a few years down the line,”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right, I know. That was a part of my political education as enforced by my parents, and they gave me this battered copy of the ragged trousers philanthropist, which, you know, I can't remember what age it was. I must have been about 12 or 13 at the time. And I remember not reading it like a lot of young people do, I'm not reading that for God's sake. And anyway, then they had to go to extreme lengths and they took me to see it in a play form a few years later. You're not going to read that. You're going to watch it in a play.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you're that small, no, but it was there in the background and trying to question the world and understanding things that were happening around me happened for me at a very young age, I think.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or whoever it was at the time. Yeah, Mitarond was the president of France. I remember that, and Gorbachev was in charge of Russia and was going through the war.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, when I was little, my mum and dad, I mean, they left school with no qualifications, but they were highly intelligent and very political. They weren't involved in politics, they weren't members of any political party until later in life. But I remember very vividly being sat in our kitchen in Stretford, and I must have only been about six or seven, and my mum was obsessed with watching all the news programmes if there was anything about politics, she would watch it and then she would try to have conversations with me about it at the age of six or seven as if I was interested in that when I was six or seven. And one day I remember going through lists of all the leaders of the world and then my mum was testing me on all the leaders of the world.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The steam side. So the same problems that occurred when we were living in Stretford near Old Trafford were occurring when he moved to Shell in Ellesmere Port and the redundancy seemed to happen every few months and he was a trade union representative so he'd come home from work and talk to my mum about this and I'd be listening to it and I'd sit at the top of the stairs hearing about them talking about you know how worried they were that we were going to lose our house because they wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage and the debt that we were in because at that time in the 1980s you know numerous families were experiencing high levels of household debt so we weren't alone in that but we were in extreme levels of debt at the time”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You work around a company called Shell Unloading Oil from Tankers at the docks. So in that sense he was a docker. And then when that dock closed in the 1980s, it was about 1987, 1988, we then had to move as a family to not too far from a place called Ellesmere Port, where Shell was opening an oil refinery. And my dad was offered a transfer there, otherwise he was going to lose his job and he wouldn't have anywhere to go.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was aware as a child, I used to sit at the top of the stairs and listen to my mum and dad talking when I should have been in bed. And my dad's worked in an industry in Trafford Park when I was very little. And then we later moved up to an industry in Ellesmere Port.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I mean, I had a very loving family. I was very, very lucky that I had so many people around me that loved me. And that probably gave me the confidence to do what I'm doing today and the belief in myself to be able to do that. But economically, it wasn't an easy childhood. I never realised that we weren't that well off when I was little because I was the same as everybody else that lived near us. And you never talked about it because you were always proud. You wouldn't want your neighbours to know that you were struggling and things like that. You always wanted to keep up with the journey.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course he didn't. I mean, the people, there was a lot of unnecessary amount of commentary on this. I mean, I'd question any parents whose lives didn't revolve around their children in a positive way. Of course, you don't let your kids away with murder. You know, if you wanted to eat chocolate all day, I wouldn't let him eat chocolate all day for God's sake.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is the kid? I mean, that's a comedy thing that me and my husband and my parents call him because our whole world, like most parents and grandparents, our world's revolve around our children and making sure that they're happy and content with life. And we just comedy referring to the king because he makes demands and we serve him.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, exactly. But apparently, when I'm talking about things, I often lift my eyebrows like this. There was one funny Twitter post that a guy put up this was years ago where I'd been on some interview somewhere and he took a picture of me when I was using”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“not so much no because there's a lot of different comments out there some very bizarre did you know that my eyebrows have their own social media account”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I try not to, to be honest. I have a look every now and again just to see what's trending because sometimes you can find out quickly what the news emerging is by looking at what's trending on TV”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was, I mean, there was a lot of speculation before Christmas about whether I was going to go for it or whether I wasn't going to go for it. Everyone assumed that I was already, but I was having conversations with my husband and my parents because I knew the level of scrutiny that we'd all be under. And I'd seen the attacks that Jeremy, John, Diane and other members of the Shadow Cabinet who were high up had faced. So I knew that it was going to be incredibly high pressured and upsetting at times. And I wanted to make sure that they were on board with this and they were 101% behind me and they knew what was to come and not phased my attention.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, because I want to make sure that he lives in a world when he grows up that's decent, where we don't have inequality, and I'm not going to be able to deliver that to him unless I do this now. I don't think anybody goes for the leadership because they're desperate and hungry for power, although some do. I think our current Prime Minister is a case in point on that one. But most people do it because they know how difficult it is. They've seen what Jeremy, for example, has been through over the last four years, but they do it because it's the only way to achieve the country and the world that we know we deserve.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've lost count now. I think I've had about four hours step because the neighbours downstairs above the flat where I live at the minute they were rowing and shouting till about two o'clock in the morning. So I got four hours sleep and then I was straight out to come and do radio four. Then I think I did sky and then I did radio back at my office and now I'm here.”
2020-03-06 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rebecca Long-Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source