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Rich Roll

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“Thanks, Matt. I appreciate that. And I think vulnerability is something that we can all use a little bit more of in this world. And when I hear other people being vulnerable, it gives me permission to be vulnerable. And I think there's real strength in that. So I appreciate that. And I am happy to be somebody to hold you accountable for this next chapter. I'm excited to see how this is going to manifest. But I would encourage you to just figure out something to latch onto so that you can, you know. So that you can get into action and not just ruminate and make more notes. And if you need somebody to hold your hand to the flame on that, I'm happy to be that guy.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Into the world, it doesn't feel like what we're seeing on social media and on the national news. Like people are fundamentally good and we share so much more than what appears to divide us right now. And I don't know, you know, I despair of the way that I hear these narratives being spun online. And so to me, it's almost a reminder of myself to remember that what you see there isn't necessarily a reflection of the world's objective reality.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, thank you for having me. It really is a privilege. And I've been doing a lot of thinking around how divided the world feels right now and how broken it can feel. There's just so much contention out there. But when I think about kind of what we do, like having these long-form conversations, it just feels to me like there's never been a better opportunity to contribute in a positive way. And I just want to encourage people to find a way to kind of transcend the predominant media narrative that seems hell-bent on pitting us against each other and to be more conscious about not just your media choices, but how you carry that sensibility into the world and the manner in which you interact with other people. Because in my experience, and I'm sure this is shared by most people, like when you go out.”
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“Of like grace and joy and allowing rather than gripping on really tightly is so counterintuitive, yet also so liberating while also being terrifying. So I haven't emerged from the woods on this yet. Like this is definitely like a hill I might die on, but this is what I'm committed to. And this is part of the intention that I'm bringing into this month that I'm taking off. And I hope to emerge from that a little bit more consolidated around that idea and in a place where I'm ready to practice it in a way that's more meaningful than what I have been able to do historically.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I'm in this journey of trying to let go. And I've done that through systems and people here at the podcast, but in other areas of my life to hold the things that I care about more loosely and to approach them from that perspective of what if it was easy like i don't have to suffer to create that is an illusion or a construct that i have created in my mind and affirmed over many years but deconstructing it i realize the fallacy of it and so trying to recalibrate my relationship to the world in which i am able to navigate it more from a perspective”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I'm looking forward to my break for sure. We have another edition of Voicing Change coming out in the new year. So I'm like, there's practical things that I'm excited about. But I think what I'm most excited about is this evolving, shifting relationship that I have with the work that I do. And this is something you've talked about a lot, Tim, which is overcoming or transcending this disposition to like make everything hard. Like you ask this question, like, what if it was easy? And that's a very...”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are you becoming a better version of yourself, or are you becoming somebody who is moving away from what I would characterize as your true essence? And I think the more that we can inhabit that sensibility, if we're in the habit of like thinking about these things, I think it anchors us more in the present moment and allows for more conscious decisions about how we're investing our energy and how we're conducting ourselves or relating to the world or responding or reacting to the world around us.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've been thinking about this because I know that you asked this question and my original thought was Who are you? But I've modified that. I think a better question is, who are you becoming? And that's a question that I resisted asking myself for too long and as a result led me down some dark pathways or distracted me from actualizing in a healthy way. And I think our culture is set up to distract us from that kind of self-inquiry. And the reason that I add the word becoming is I think that it speaks to the fact that none of us are static. Like in every moment we are shifting and we are changing and every decision that we make, every interaction that we have, every word that comes out of our mouth is either moving us towards a better, more authentic version of ourselves or away from it in the same way that that process is as an alcoholic either moving me towards a drink or away from a drink. So I think in the context of becoming, we're always on our way to becoming something.”
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“So that I can go away. And I've got these people here who have their eyes on the prize and can take care of a lot of that stuff. But it took me years to get to this place. I had to learn a lot of rocky lessons along the way.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I think now I get what you're coming from. I mean, it's certainly been a situation of putting systems in place and stress testing them. I mean, I have this amazing team right now. When I went to Australia, the team looked a little bit different. It wasn't as mature as it is at this point. But now I've really invested a lot of time and energy in creating structure, which was not easy for me as a sort of control freak who wants to do everything and be the bottleneck in every decision and every problem. Like I've lived in that, that was a big part of what was leading me towards this burnout was my refusal to kind of loosen the reins and empower people around me. And that's been an education that I'm happy to say I'm now very much more on the other side of, which feels really liberating and having systems in place.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm much more interested in your experience in Antarctica. But, well, we can talk about it. I mean, that's amazing. Like, what were you, why did you decide to go there and what was that about?”
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“Often like completely leave the phone at home. I wish I could tell you that that's what I did. I didn't do that. That is an ambition for this experience though, which is terrifying.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Understand in a performance context that you have to periodize your life just like you would periodize your training. Like you need those fallow periods to recharge the battery. And you have to live your life if you're going to have anything worthy to say about the human experience. If you're just constantly engaging in your profession and focused on what it is that you do and you're missing out on the other experiences and the richness of life, then you're not really going to be carrying a meaningful resonance or vibration that's going to be helpful to other people.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I was due for it. And so I ended up taking a month off, and I went to Australia. And it was incredibly nourishing. And I was able to come back from that experience with a renewed and refreshed perspective and relationship with what I do. And I just decided that this was going to be an annual thing. So I'm getting ready to do it. I'm taking January off this year. And I'm really looking forward to it. I need it. And I think it's important to.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a couple years ago, I started tiptoeing up to burnout. And instead of being excited to have conversations with my guests, I wouldn't say I was dreading it, but I was moving in that direction. And that's not a relationship that I wanted to have with this thing that you and I both do that we obviously really care about. It should be a joyful experience. And I hadn't taken a single vacation in like five years. Like no break. It was insane.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the first place, the adage of like all this wellness is making me sick. Like I was so, you know, like I was just working my ass off, right? And as you know, doing this show and doing other things in your life, like it's a lot more work than people think. Like it's a grind and you can lose yourself in it.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you mentioned earlier on this extended period of financial dismantlement that we endured as a family. And it was a very painful extended period of time where I really struggled to figure out how to provide for my family in a meaningful way. And it's now all solved and everything's great. But I think there was a significant amount of PTSD that I experienced from that because it was very emasculating and scary for me. Once things started functioning properly and working, a lot of my workaholism tendencies kind of came to the forefront. And I became so focused on building this thing and protecting it and making sure that it was providing for my family that I started to kind of overlook the principles that put me in the position to create.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's like my Mount Everest right now. And listen, these are problems of abundance. They're the result of working very hard to create something that is interesting to people. And so you get offered cool stuff. And I want to take advantage of all the cool stuff. Like I know what it's like to not have people interested in, you know, having me involved in cool stuff, but at what cost, right? And it's really hard to do that. It's like, do you want to go do this amazing thing? You're like 100% I do. But what are you really trying to accomplish? Where is your focus vested and calibrating those opportunities against the things that are most important in your life? And I have four kids. Like I have, you know, I have other responsibilities outside my professional responsibilities that are important to me. So I'm not always great at making those decisions, but I think I'd like to think that I'm getting a little bit better.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm pretty good about that. The death by a thousand cuts shows up in other areas of my life, particularly like regarding stuff that isn't due or isn't going to happen for a long period of time. Like if it's far enough out on the calendar, I'll pretty much agree to anything. And then that day arrives and you're like, what am I doing? I'm never doing this again. And then the following week, you're reaping the same thing.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm too much of a people pleaser for that. And that's the war that I'm always waging. Like the healthy boundary versus like the desire to be liked is like the battleground in my head. And so”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say outside of situations where I'm traveling, my hit rate's about 85%. I'm pretty good. Yeah. And also, the people that I generally work with all know this now. So it's less often that I'm asked to do things during those hours because they know. And I've gotten much better at just not agreeing to do stuff, conference calls, Zoom calls and stuff like that during that period of time. But if somebody's in the UK or in a very radically different time zone, like there's situations where it's like, okay, am I going to be the huge pain in the ass or am I going to just make an exception? Make them do the same.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anything outside of those practices for that initial phase of the day. And so after I finish those practices, then I do my training in the morning. And I try to get that done before I go into the workday.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, of course. Yeah, that didn't really become a possibility until I was self-employed. And I think I started practicing it originally when I was writing Finding Ultra because I needed quiet hours before work began to just be focused on that important thing. And I've just built upon it from there. So essentially I'm early to bed, early to rise. I go to bed like around nine and generally get up around five, five, between five and six. And the early hours are really protected as my own time. So morning meditation, journaling, writing, creative projects, no meetings, no phone calls. Like certainly, like we're doing this podcast this morning. So I'll make exceptions like we're doing this in the morning. But as a general rule, I try not to commit to.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sympathetic nervous system that I'm safe. And I believe I could be wrong, but I believe that that was the original use case for the gravity blanket to treat people with autism who have trouble calming down. And it had this impact of like soothing them. And that's certainly been my experience using it. And I love it.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Gravity blanket is a weighted blanket. That experience of being at the dentist and you're getting an x ray, and they put that like lead mat on your chest and think, is that a pleasant experience for you or an unpleasant experience for you? And when I think about that, I kind of like it. Like there's something about it swaddling clothes. Yeah. It's like being protected. You know, it's like telling my”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's well, I'm actually at a turning point with all of this. I've been sleeping in like a North Face tent that I've had for a while. But these tents tend to only last maybe four or five months at most because the sun just beats them up and then they turn into like tissue paper. So I'm constantly getting tents. And finally, I was like, this is ridiculous. So I just bought like a proper canvas like glamping tent and we haven't constructed it yet. I'm having a deck built. I'm going to make it like kind of like a cool outdoor structure. So that's the next chapter in all of this. But for the last two years, it's been a series of, you know, basically, you know, small tents in the backyard. I have a mattress in there, so I'm not sleeping on the ground and tons of blankets, which is part of the appeal. Like there was frost when I woke up this morning. It was great. I slept fantastic last night. But a key thing that I have been using for a couple years is a gravity blanket.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We do, and I go running and all the trails all around where I live in the Santa Monica Mountains. I know they're there. I've never seen one, but they're definitely there where our property is fenced. So I feel okay being, but they're there. They're real.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I also think it's been a cool kind of Stoic practice because I live in a really nice house and I have nice things, but I actually prefer to sleep in the tent. And there's something about that where Gives me comfort, like if everything went terribly wrong and I lost everything, like I know that I'm happy sleeping in a tent and I don't really need that much ultimately. And that's been really kind of nice in cultivating a little bit of a minimalist sensibility about how I live.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The tent was on the roof. Then it got windy. I moved the tent to the ground. But I've really just enjoyed it. And as I get older, like I'm so protective of my sleep and it's so important to me that I get those eight hours because I know what it feels like not to get them. And it still eludes me quite often. Like I really struggle with this, but it's been a huge benefit in the quality of my sleep. I enjoy it. People always ask, well, you know, they think I'm having like some kind of fight with my wife or something like that. We have our quality time, I promise you. Like everything is fine in my marriage. We've been together for a very long time. It's all good.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Julie would always be bundled up under a ton of covers, and I'm sleeping on top of the covers like sweating. And then neither of us sleeps and we get up and we're not happy. We have a flat, you've been in my house. I have a flat roof on my house. And one summer evening, we did a sleepover on the roof with the kids and we have a flat wall where we would project movies and we're like eating popcorn and we all just kind of slept on the roof that night in sleeping bags and I woke up the next day just feeling amazing like from the outdoor air and the cool like desert air of Los Angeles. And I just like, I can't remember the last time I slept so well. So I told Julie, I was like, I'm just going to sleep on the roof again tonight. And it really began from there. And I just fell in love with being out there something about being outdoors that just agrees with me and the kind of cool evening air. But I would wake up covered in condensation, like completely wet. So I was like, all right, I got to get a tent. So then I got a tent.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Start with the tent. I've been sleeping outside in a tent for a couple years at this point, I think a little over two years. And I absolutely love it. It's really been beneficial to my sleep. And it's something that started from a frustration over my increasing inability to get restful slumber. And the impetus, like kind of original impetus was my wife likes the bedroom warm. I like the bedroom cold. I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this relationship dynamic. And no matter how much we would try to compromise to make it good for both of us.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Overnight. But I think it's like when you're looking at it, it's not like what are you going to do this year? But like three years, if you're on like a three-year plan, I think really doubling down on this philosophy, there's so much benefit to it. But it depends on what your goal is too.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think Peter answered this question, and I believe he gave a window of something like three months or something like three to six months. I would say that this is not like the way to hack yourself to success because it requires a significant investment in time. Like you have to play the long game to really reap the huge benefits of this type of training. It's not an overnight kind of thing. I started to realize gains, maybe I started to realize gains maybe around six months into it, but I didn't really garner the full buffet of what it was availing me for like, it took two years, like basically is what I'm saying. Like the longer you do it, the more efficient you become. And then the longer you can go, the further you can sustain a certain level of effort. And these adaptations are like not over.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably deeper. It's great. It's great. Chopped it out and then put it at the end, and I went immediately to the end to like listen to all of it.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Training the body to metabolize fat for fuel has really been an N of one in experiential experience that I've had, but it's really much more about how you're training than what it is that you're eating or when you're eating it. Like I've just found this training to be the best way to get into that place of the body learning how to metabolize fuel in that way so that you can literally continue to go for as long as you want.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wherein you understand this is the level of exertion required to be right in the sweet spot of all of this. When I began training for these races, my zone two pace when I was running was like 10 minutes a mile or 1030 or something like that. But by rigorously adhering to this without doing any interval training or any tempo work over a two-year period, I got to the point where I could run seven minute miles at the same heart rate. So the same amount of energy output, but that level of increase in speed, not by doing any speed work, but by literally creating efficiencies and developing that mitochondrial density. And ultimately, what you're also doing is training the body to metabolize fat for fuel, which is your all day source of energy. Like you literally will never run out of it. In my experience,”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Helps you develop a greater mitochondrial density in your muscles. And in ultra endurance, this is absolutely crucial because there's nothing about ultra endurance that is fast. It has nothing to do with threshold power or speed or any of that. It's truly the ability to efficiently persist. So the prize doesn't go to the fastest guy. It goes to the person who slows down the least. And when you live in this zone two place where you're training for long periods of time, developing this capacity, what you're doing is you're building this foundation of endurance from the ground up. And the way that you kind of calculate your zone, I mean, Peter talks about this. I go in for proper lactate testing. I'm on a bike and I get my finger pricked as the watts go up. And you get this heart rate zone and this watt zone.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Going too hard and too fast to really develop that aerobic capacity and engine and efficiency, but you're not going hard enough to develop speed and the anaerobic kind of capacity that you're looking for for those really fast, shorter bursts. And in that gray zone, which is where most average people live and breathe, you can get to a certain point, but you will very quickly plateau and really never go beyond that. Zone two is a certain kind of discipline because it's asking you to hold back. Zone two is the level of output where basically you can get up and do it every day. And quite often you complete the workout and you feel like you didn't do anything and you have this impulse to want to go faster. So you have to hold back from doing that. But essentially what it does is it, as Peter talks about,”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Energy. In endurance training, zone two, I think is absolutely crucial for success because it is the best way or the methodology that you leverage to create efficiency, which is something that Peter has talked about. So most people, when they go out for a run, let's say they go on a run, a 45 minute run like three or four times a week or something like that. Most people will go out and they will exert themselves so that they feel like they had a vigorous run. Like they'll run as fast as they can for that period of time so that when they're finished, they feel like, oh, I got something out of that. Zone two is a level of output that is quite a bit beneath that level of exertion because when you're doing that kind of mindlessly, like I'm just going out for a vigorous run, most typically you are in what is called the gray zone.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And adoration of the zone two philosophy is a cornerstone in how I was able to be successful in ultra-endurance triathlon in my mid 40s. So zone two basically is a gauge of energy output in aerobic exercise that essentially is the state in which you are exerting yourself at essentially a conversational level. You are in your aerobic zone where your body can make use of one of two sources of energy, glucose or fat. And it is the level of exertion that lives and breathes just beneath where you cross a certain threshold and go into a more anaerobic state, which is dependent more or exclusively on glycogen stores for”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, your conversation with Peter on this subject matter, and then Peter, I know, has done AMAs where he's go very deeply into this topic are fantastic listens and everybody should check that out if they're interested in this subject matter because my version of explaining this will be a very layperson's experiential version of it compared to Peter's very scientific and eloquent. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm a huge proponent of zone two training. And I believe that my”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That compulsion to want to know all the answers and how it's going to play out and all the steps you're going to need to take to get there can prevent us from moving forward in our lives. And I think these situations, in my experience, are rigged such that you're not supposed to know all of those answers because you're rewarded for actually getting into action. Like it's tangential to mood follows action. Like the bricks get laid only two steps in front of you and you're not allowed to see the whole thing, right? Like if you're like use Iron Man, for example, or triathlon, like what bike should I get? Well, you can go around that merry-go-round forever, but ultimately the best bike is the one that's sitting gathering dust in your garage. Just go do a race with that and you'll figure out all that stuff as you go. And it becomes the more you do it, the more emotionally engaged you get with it. And then these things tend to”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The other thing I would point out is the tendency to indulge a little bit of analysis paralysis. You could spend the next year trying to figure out what mountain it is that you want to climb or how you're going to get there. And I have a sense that maybe this might be a thing for you. And I think there's a lot of value in not overthinking things and just saying this is something that's interesting to me. I'm just going to decide right now I'm going to do this thing. And it's like six months from now and it's in the calendar and I have no idea how I'm going to get there, but it's there. And I think.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is like my major malfunction these days I am dying death by a thousand cuts these days because of like cool stuff that I want to do and say yes to you know too frequently”
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“Think those would be good starting places like things that come to mind for me is some kind of adventure race, you know, or something where it involves other people and lots of different types of skill sets that come into play that is kind of scary, but also Experiential and potentially very fun.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interested in it. If you're not, if it's not something that's going to get you excited and have some ability to retain your attention and enthusiasm, chances are like you're going to get bored or you're just going to drop off. So starting with that, I think is important because I could tell you you should do this, but only you know what that might look like. But I would suggest that spending time with that curiosity and then figuring out how you can pursue that learning curve in a challenging fitness context that also involves community or team building on some level because that's the other piece that you feel like you're missing. And I get that. Like I miss that too, you know. And I do most of my training alone. And when I do group runs, I'm like, I should do this more like this is so fun. And yet I don't do it. So I relate to that deeply.”
2022-01-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #561: Rich Roll — Reinventing Your Life at 30, 40, and Beyond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, I think that's a great answer. And just knowing enough about you to know how important structure is to you, like setting really measurable, tangible goals and benchmarks. Like that's kind of how you operate. And that's the easy part for you. But I think the harder part is figuring out what is the character of the actual pursuit, right? And I would start with curiosity. Like what is it that is something you're interested in learning or exploring that might be something new that sits a little bit outside of your comfort zone but is intriguing enough for you to want to explore it? It's easy to say, well, you should do this race or you should try this or you should join a team. But I think curiosity is really the most important piece because if you're not”
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“Yeah, well, I mean, I guess the first thing I would ask you, Tim, is why? What is going on? What's beneath the kind of surface level aspect of this that you just shared? What is it that you feel is Lacking that would be fulfilled by you pursuing some kind of fitness goal? Is it just like, oh, I'm starting to feel lazy or I've slipped off or I don't feel the way that I'd like to feel right now or like I always like to ask that first because people are very casual and cavalier about saying, I want to do this goal like I want to do this race or whatever. And I'm always like, why? Like, why is that important? Why is that important to you, right? So that would be the first thing I would ask you”
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“I should say, can I just say, like really quickly, sorry to interrupt you, but like you have no idea how much that means to me, Tim. It really is meaningful that you said that. I look to you and the example that you've set and all the things that you have done in the world in such a remarkable fashion. And I aspire to your level of impact and influence. And I just also, so I wanted to thank you for that. And thank you also for being a support to me. Like when the book came out, you let me do a guest blog post for your site. I think I pestered you until you finally relented. But that was a extremely helpful to me at the time. And you have no idea how much I appreciate that.”
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“Most important professional commitment that I made at that time and really created the foundation for me being able to do kind of all the things that I do now”
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