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Richard Haass

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“And if you can come up with some ideas and harness them to the right people, you can make a real difference. And I've seen this in White Houses or anywhere else. There's almost nothing that's inevitable. And the good side of that is that you can make a real positive difference and the bad side of that is bad stuff can happen and people can drive things off the rest. I didn't realize how much of history in a funny sort of way gets decided day in, day out. The historical forces are there. I get that. There's large historical forces. But within that, there's a human agency. The difference that people can make for better and for worse is extraordinary.”
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“Okay, but I think there's got to be a willingness to pay your dues a little bit. I know that makes me a dinosaur, and I apologize, but... There's something to be said for slogging and to work in your way through and taking positions where the principal measure of the value of the job is how much you learn.”
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“Two things. Glad you asked me that. One is read some history. Because it's too easy to graduate from too many of America's colleges and universities and not have any grounding in history. Second of all, this will get me in trouble, but it's my general advice to millennials, which they need a little bit more patience. There's a rush to arrive and an expectation of, I think it's probably because too many of them got participation trophies when they were playing soccer. But I think people have got the first.”
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“Without size, absolutely, and there's more things that could go wrong than that could go right. And that's what worries me.”
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“I don't think that's a short term thing. I think that debate about how societies and individuals are to navigate globalization, that could become a dominant debate for some time. I think the possibility for a North Korea issue, we're going to wake up in a couple of years and North Korea is going to be able to put nuclear warheads on missiles that can reach the United States. What are we going to do about that? terrorists can at some point get a hold of some truly awful weapon systems. What about that? We talked a little bit about a potential domestic crisis in China. You could have weakening within the EU. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be, my kids call me Debbie Downer, but hey.”
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“I feel like Yogi Berra, predictions are always difficult about the future here. But one is we've seen elements of it, I think, with the globalization debate. We talked that you and I at some length about Brexit and as well as about trade in this country.”
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“I think the entire environment of making policy and carrying it out has become more decentralized. Look, it's the reason you mentioned you're nice enough to mention before I have this book coming out in January called A World in Disarray. But I think objectively, if you were going to measure the trends in the world, things have gotten messier. Things have gotten much less orderly, whether at the global level or the regional level or the domestic level.”
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“And suddenly you had one news cycle. You couldn't wait. And that anything said in one place was heard everywhere. So there was no longer narrow casting. Everything was broadcast everywhere. So it created, and that was before social media. And now you've got social media. So you're much more Exposed, and you feel much less in control as a policymaker. So I think it's gotten tougher because also elites have broken down.”
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“A couple come to mind. One is, first of all, at the end of the Cold War 25 years ago. The whole structure of international relations change. Second of all, you've had a whole Trend in terms of away from concentration of power. We now have so many actors and players in the world who can make a difference. It's whether it's the Gates Foundation or groups like Doctors Without Borders to CNN to Bloomberg to Again, dozens of countries around the world or groups like ISIS. So the chessboard, if you will, to use a terrible cliched image is much more crowded with many different types of things. I think also putting on my former policymaker hat, it first struck me during the Gulf War 25 years ago, the 24-7 news cycle. I remember that was the first time the CNN effect was real?”
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“And it ought to be a big bruising. I don't read a whole lot of fiction. I'll pick up the New Yorker every week. Like more nonfiction. I think I gravitate. But if I can read anything, I usually like reading biography. I find that. To me, the most interesting place to go.”
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“I've just given you the My favorite books in my field I like reading biography as much as anybody. I've been reading much recently because I've been so busy writing. And when I write books, It's very hard to read because you're kind of more in a transmit than receive mode. In terms of, I don't read a whole lot of fiction, though I have read the entire Jack Reacher. My wife loves.”
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“Society, and it's a whole idea of international relations at any one moment is always a balance between forces of anarchy and forces of society, things coming together, things going apart. And so I found Hedley a great influence in his. And then some of my former colleagues, when I taught at the Kennedy School at Harvard named Dick Neustadt and Ernie May, and they did a book called Thinking in Time. And the subtitle is something like The Uses of History for Decision Makers. And the whole idea was how you could and should study and use history to shape challenges that might come into your inbox and how to use it and not abuse it. And I think it's a fantastic primer.”
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“One on world For good reason. So Henry is one. Second is a man named Hedley Bull. I mentioned him before Professor Australian academic wrote what I think is the single best book ever written in the... Last 50 or 100 years about my field called the Anarchical Society.”
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“I'd single out. Two or three. One would be Henry Kissing Kissinger's books. or better than anyone else's at going from particular moments of history to taking a step back and making larger judgments or conclusions. So when I write, I do my best to do the same.”
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“He is the gold standard of people who have held that critical job of national security advisor. It's very hard to get the balance right, to be an advisor, yet to be someone who all your colleagues trust to make the process fair and accountable and Brent pulled off that balance better than any other individual I've ever seen.”
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“And I was the senior person for the Middle East and the Persian Gulf and South Asia and working with Brennan and watching how he balanced the two sides of the job. He was both an advisor or counselor to the president, but he was also the person who dispensed due process and made the system work and how he balanced advocacy and fairness, had a tremendous impact on me.”
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“Oh, man named Tom Frank Great professor of New Testament is what got me interested in the Middle East because I went off ultimately to do an archaeological dig, which is how I got interested in Middle East, I had a series of wonderful professors at Oxford, a historian named Albert Harani, another named Michael Howard, Alistair Bachen, Hedley Bull, one of the great political scientists of the 20th century. So all these people had an impact. I think the person who probably had the greatest impact on me in terms of my career was Brent Scowcroft. It was the national security advisor at the White House for pushback. Under pushboard.”
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“You treated your opponents with respect and decency. It was all very mannered. It was all very gentlemanly. It was a very different. My mentors were more teachers in terms of people I studied with at, say, Oberlin, where I was an undergraduate. I had a fantastic teacher of comparative religion. I had my teachers at...”
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“Wouldn't say he did the Liden Maria. We disagreed on a lot, but I admired his principle and I admired it was very old school. Claiborne Pell was a patrician. And for him politics weren't a blood sport, politics were what gentlemen did. It was a higher calling.”
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“You go back and forth. We call them in and outers. So I've been in and outer. I've worked for administrations. I've worked on the Hill. I've taught a couple of times at universities. I've been at various think tanks, including the current one, the Council on Foreign Relations. So I've been incredibly lucky because I've been able to follow this very flexible set of jobs”
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“It's very American in the sense that you don't have to make a single choice. Like if you're in Europe, you would either have to be a career diplomat or an academic and you never academics don't go back and”
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“Been in it like my entire career, it's a very American career. This is one of the few countries where you don't have to make”
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“After a few years under Medvedev and Putin, there was some experimentation about a high tech area around Moscow. And essentially they pulled the rug out from under it because the same people who had the creative ideas to start businesses had dangerous creative ideas about politics.”
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“They're going to have a future beyond energy. It has to be, but they haven't. The tent of the stats they made a few years ago in that direction, they were going to create a Gorbachev.”
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“He's not going to start that process. He is not going to start that because you would begin to create momentum that would weaken the share of power or the relative role of the state. That is just not his vision of his country.”
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“As a simple answer to your question, if they were going to free up their economy to do exactly what you're talking about, it would have political consequences. One of the advantages of having such a heavy state-run economy with so much of the wealth in oil and gas is the government controls things. If you had a real economy where people were starting up businesses where they could be independent, they had sources of capital outside the control of government, they would then demand political freedom. Vladimir Putin does not want to oversee a Russia where he does not keep control.”
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“Putin has political stability at home. His economy is pretty much one-dimensional with energy. I think what he's trying for is respect and attention. And I think he wants to... He wants Russia to be seen, perceived, judged to be a major power. That's why he is doing some of what he's doing in the Middle East. I think you've got to look at the last 25 years of history for many Russians, particularly of Putin's mentality, someone from the security services as a humiliating era. And what Putin wants to do is in some ways compensate for what he sees to be the humiliations of losing the Cold War, NATO enlargement. You name it, that essentially Russia has been kicked off its pedestal.”
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“On a regular basis. Absolutely. And there's nothing holding him back if he wants to surprise us tomorrow Mr Putin is, shall we say, unconstrained. There's not a lot of checks and balances in the Russian political system, an economically and politically he has consolidated power to unprecedented degree. So he retains the capacity and the ability to surprise if he decides that it's in his interest to do so.”
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“I wouldn't call him full flesh, but I think they're a significant competitor and they're the closest thing to an emerging rival great power that there is in the world. I think the real question is whether they can pull it off and whether they can maintain the political stability at home amidst lower rates of economic growth. So I actually think China is an underappreciated political question mark over the next five to ten years”
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“Chinese feeling that again the United States wants to keep China in its place so it doesn't emerge as a full-fledged competitor. So there's a bit of that.”
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“I'm not sure I put it quite that way because they're at one and the same time, both a developing country and a power. But I do think they feel, based on my conversations with them and what I read, that this is still an American dominated world. There's some Chinese who think that the United States gets up in the morning trying to block China's path. Really? Sure, when we, for example, opposed over the last couple of years the Chinese sponsored infrastructure investment bank in Asia, there's a certain”
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“China's so big territorially and demographically that that's historically been an up and now China is a major power and the question is whether they want to have a certain Influence or respect, if you will, accorded them in the region. They want to assert certain things. And I think they are the juries out. But again, as growth has slowed significantly in China, again, there's two skills of thought. One says they're going to continue to be restrained because they can't afford to upset the economic applicant. The other is saying they're going to turn to a more nationalist foreign policy as a way of compensating for their slowing economic growth. And Western observers are divided. My hunches, the Chinese themselves are divided.”
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“That sense is no surprise. Now, the real question is not whether China goes along with the ruling, there was zero chance of that. The real question is whether in any way they adjust their behavior and stop some of the reclamation projects, the island rebuilding projects, whether we see a little bit more reasonableness on their behavior. My hunch is there's a debate within China on that. Really? That historically over the last, if you think about it, 40 years, China's foreign policy has been quite restrained because they've understood they needed a stable environment, external environment, in order to develop and grow economically. In the last couple of years, you're seeing a more assertive street coming out of China. So my prediction is you're going to see something of an internal struggle between these two different schools of thought.”
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“Well, before the decision came down, the Chinese, knowing the decision was going to go against them, essentially preempted and said we're going to ignore the decision. Before we feel too much holier than thou about it, we would do the same thing as a major power. We wouldn't allow our foreign policy to be determined by some tribunal like this. And so I don't.”
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“Name brand goods. So, if we have a dumping problem from China, then we have something called the World Trade Organization, and we should take China to task in the WTO. Often we get rulings in our favor, let's use the machinery.”
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“Well, obviously, we talked about it before the question of property theft, intellectual property theft is an issue, government subsidies, government investments, and so forth. So there's issues.”
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“I think they were historically, but they've stopped. And in the last year or two, the evidence just isn't there. Things to criticize China for.”
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“which would deal with everything from various forms of assistance for affected workers might also deal with perceived problems with the agreement, for example, to deal with the potential that currencies are manipulated so other countries' exports are cheaper here might deal with government subsidies. So what I would expect is you'd have a side agreement between the president and the Congress that would together with the agreement would provide a package that people, even skeptics could support. So I think the odds of that happening over the next five years are better than even.”
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“The answer is yes, but you can't do is renegotiate it. You can't reopen it with 11 other countries. So if it were to pass, what it would take, a little bit what we've been talking about, is a side agreement between who's ever president and the Congress.”
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“Naft and others is that there's always a side deal, if you will. Where you help people who are like not everybody gains, not everybody wins from globalization. So as a society, we've got to take care of the people who lose from globalization. That's part of putting together a majority that supports these agreements.”
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“I don't see people connecting the dots in this country. And if you want to be against TPP, that's your prerogative. But then you have to be honest about the strategic consequences as well as the economic consequences of being against it. And it seems to me the case for it is so strong. And there's ways of helping people who would conceivably or potentially be hurt by it through economic displacement. Well, then you help them with education, retraining, and transitional financial assistance. But to throw the baby out with the bathwater is to me a strategic error of the first magnitude.”
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“Much smaller, exactly, much smaller. I think the bigger cost would be strategic. And reputational, what it would sell to these other countries is the United States is no longer reliable to pendable, predictable country. And it would also be the biggest winner would be China. What the Chinese would say is, oh, great. We're going to do a trade agreement with you. We're going to replace the United States economically.”
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“You're right that the agreement has been parked in the Congress. There's zero chance it gets touched before the election. If Hillary Clinton were to win, there's some chance it could get touched in the lame duck, more likely though if it comes up again, it would be sometime after the new president. Takes office. If it doesn't pass, we'd pay a little bit of an economic price. The estimates are 0.3 or so percentage GDP. Not a lot. Not like the...”
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“Mexico, I would just make a larger point about immigration. I think we need to break it down into three parts. We need to continue to have a flow of talented individuals into this country. It's a great driver of economic success, no doubt, in this country. We've got to find a way to deal with 12 million people who have this uncertain status. We're not going to deport them. We've got to find some kind of a legitimate path, a conditional path to a legal status or citizen ship. And we've got to have real security. And I'm not worried about economic migrants. I'm worried about terrorists. So I want to make sure that the United States is secure in its borders, on its land borders, its air borders, and its seaborders, north, south, east, and west. So we've got to be safe. And that to me is a real challenge that we've got to face up to.”
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“You've got problems in some cases domestically with drug gangs, with guns, and so forth, but that's really a lack of government capacity, and that's the kind of thing that over the years or decades, I believe, can and will be solved. The fact that you don't have massive flows of people out of Mexico and the United States, I also see in some ways as a reflection that the NAFTA agreement worked. Next, Mexico's economy is doing better. It can increasingly support its own population and a lot of goods which are made in one country or the other, as you know, because the supply chains are really made increasingly in both. But to answer your question, no, I do not believe there will be a wall between the United States and Mexico. If there were to be one, it wouldn't be paid for by”
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“As you say, there's net migration now in the direction of Mexico. It's a combination of a slowing economy here. The economy there is doing well. Smaller family size. There, so that's essentially what's driving it. I also think that Mexico is something of a success story. The fact that you've had several rotations of power, it's an increasingly legitimate democracy.”
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“Short answer is yes, and you've had, as you know, for many Americans, a lack of real increase in living standards over the last decade, decade, and a half. And this concerns about the inadequacy of safety nets of retirement savings. A lot of social change in our society and record speed. So I think you add all this up. And there's a lot of Americans who feel uneasy, uncomfortable, threatened, anxious, choose your adjective. But I think it's widespread. And the fact that you've had outsiders like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders do as well as they've done in this political season tells you something.”
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“Limited means for considerable goals. Needless to say, and I think history will be extremely critical. Of the 2003. So I think it's legitimate to criticize it. And I think what it also shows is a lack of consensus within the Republican Party about this country's role in the world. Many people who opposed it at the time, or certainly in retrospect. I just find this part of a larger pattern that the most interesting conversations about foreign policy happen within the parties. There's not a democratic versus Republican foreign policy”
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“It was Colin Powell, who was President Bush, Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, and Dick Cheney, by the way, was Secretary of Defense. And it was a very effective team. But considerable means for limited goals, very different than the 2003.”
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“Well, I wrote a book about the Gulf War and the Iraq War called War of Necessity, War of Choice. And I was a great critic of the 2003 war.”
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