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Richard Tice

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“That's an interesting. No one's ever said like that before. We've worked very closely together for 10 years and it seems to be working pretty well. I mean, at the end of the day, we are achieving things that no one ever thought possible in a two-party system. And sure, if the two main parties had done their job properly, there'd be no need for us. But I would argue, whatever you think of our politics or us as individuals, it must be good for democracy and interest in politics and for journalists to talk about it, where you've got a bit more competition, you've got new disruptors coming up with a different approach to it, slightly more bullish, slightly more businesslike. And I think that's a good thing. And whether it's us or whether it's the lib demos or the greens, all we're all providing, I think, a slightly different take on it.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We did play some lively teams, one of which was Strangeways Prison. In the early to mid 1980s, before the riots, I think in 1987, and listeners will be pleased to know we always had to play away in strange ways, and they had a football pitch, obviously behind wires, and there was alsations patrolling the touchline, and there was one moment where obviously it was a sort of, it was a him against me. I was the goalkeeper. The striker was through, and I had no choice. I took him down. Ref blows penalty. And so I'm doing my Bruce Grobler act. And a warder just walks behind the goal with an Alsatian. He says, young man, if you know what's good for you, you'll let it in.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For Salford. I was. I paid for Salford University. I was a goalkeeper and I enjoyed that until an injury sort of ruined my career.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to be a team, you have your discussions and debates behind closed doors, and then ultimately the boss makes a decision and you crack on. And that's what we're doing. And in a sense, look, yeah, of course it was sad. I said it was a shame. But the bottom line is the voters have just clearly expressed a strong view for reform and have way moved on past that hiccup.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anything within sinned at all. I mean, actually, we work very hard internally. But the point is, and you saw it in other political situations, you have your discussions and your debates internally behind closed doors. And then here's what, you know, to use a footballing analogy, a football team of 11 individuals doesn't win matches. 11 people who act as a team act together, and I'm a Liverpool fan, so I'm feeling quite good about this at the moment. You'll understand why I haven't mentioned that. Of course, with a good, strong manager.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But they didn't deliver. That's the bottom line. And that coincided with the time where we said, actually, you've got to do Brexit properly.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I had a journey with the Conservatives where I was a member. I then resigned in 2012, I think it was, I was a bit grumpy with David Cameron's strategic defence review, which was rushed out and I think very damaging to our armed forces back then. And I said, I'm not coming back until Cameron's gone. And when he left, I rejoined back in whenever it was 2016. And then I got disappointed again because Theresa May, she promised to do Brexit properly and of course she didn't. And so one thing led to another. And so I left again. But yes, I did try and get the nomination for London Mayor and the Tories said thanks, but no thanks.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And our basic values at the moment are not working. The basic British values are not working because crime is through the roof.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's a matter for debate, but you've got to be prepared to discuss this because we want our children to be proud of our country, to be proud of our flag. The fact that some of our flags you're not allowed to be proud of at the moment is, I think, shameful and it's part of the loss. And that's why modern day Britain, for many people, isn't working and it's not making people better off. Whereas in the 80s and 90s I touched on, the economy was growing every year at 2.5% to 3.5%.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we should. This is a problem we've got as a nation, as a political class, we're not prepared to learn enough from other nations that are getting it right.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tell you what, what is a better society if you're at a coffee shop? And you, as a lady, you leave your handbag and your phone on the table. You go to the loo. Then you come back a few minutes later. Guess what? Your handbag's still there, your phone's still there. And that is the sort of society we should aspire to.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My constituents, they see a lot of me in Parliament. I was the first member of Parliament to get to 100 speeches, new member of Parliament, always without notes.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love modern Britain. What I weep about, and I'm so sad about, is that modern Britain at the moment isn't working for the vast majority of the country. And people are getting poorer by the week, by the month. I think it's give or take six out of the last eight quarters. People are getting poorer because there's almost no growth in the economy. And if you've got large scale immigration, 750,000, give or take net arriving every year. Everybody's getting poorer. And public services.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think anybody who looks at immigration as a topic and is prepared to talk about it, which obviously is sometimes quite difficult, you say, look, this is how you make it work and make it work very successfully. And there are plenty of examples around the world.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that If you have large scale immigration into a community without those folk coming in integrating, wanting to work and learn the language, then it's not going to work for the host nation, the host community. Smart immigration is when actually it works for both sides of the equation. Those coming in get a job, integrate, feel welcome, and the host community. So it's got to be in sensible numbers.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Deadly serious, and there's a long term average of about four hundred thousand, four hundred fifty thousand people who leave the UK every year. And so you can welcome a similar number. You can measure it over a three or four year period. You're not doing it monthly, obviously. And you can say, yeah, these are where we've got particular skill shortages. But here's the point, Nick. We were building way more houses in the 70s, 80s and 90s when we didn't have mass cheap, low-skilled immigration than we're building today. So I'm just not buying this nonsense that we're incapable of doing it in the UK when we've got 9 million people, economically inactive. What happened was when you had large-scale immigration come in, guess what? It's a basic economic theory. If you increase the supply of something, the price goes down, and the price of British wages was suppressed for a decade and more.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nigel's been on this for a very long time, and we announced just during the local election campaign that, yes, we would have a minister for deportations, we should be removing foreign criminals in our jails. And people can't expect to come here illegally and stay here forever. That's not part of the gig.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would argue that perhaps President Trump learned from Nigel Farage because Nigel's been talking about immigration for probably well over a decade and has been proven bang on the money both on the scale of legal immigration where we want smart immigration, net zero immigration it's the only net zero I do want and with regard to illegal immigration so look we've all got our own particular issues”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not saying that at all. I'm saying, look, you can either like or not like his personality, but there is a man with the biggest election mandate who is negotiating hard for America. You may well not like his negotiating techniques. His job is to negotiate for America. The role of any leader of the United Kingdom and the leadership team is to negotiate hard for the UK. My real issue is I think people are getting a sort of... Overexcited about. About that. I think what we've got to focus on is what's going to be the state of this country in four years' time? We can't borrow $150 billion every year and expect it to end well.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When Nigel's not present, you mean Donald Trump Is he a good present? Well, he's certainly changing things. I think history will show, hopefully, that he plays a legacy-changing impact on resolving some of the horrors in the Middle East, on trying to get a ceasefire in Ukraine. All this stuff is yourself.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Our model will be our model. No one else's model. We will do things our way. Nigel and I have worked very closely for 10 years and”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Moving fast, yes, not breaking things, but certainly changing things. I mean, I think that The country is in serious trou On the day of the spring statement, I did 14 interviews, and the word I used on the financial numbers by the OBR was delusional, and four weeks later, on the debt number that was produced for the debt to the year, I was bang on the money. And so, yeah, we're in serious financial trouble.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Climate change. There's plenty. There are professors with Nobel Prize warning Sorry, Nobel Prize winning professors of physics and engineering who take this view. The point is you can't stop climate change and this I think is the big lie. Climate change has gone on for millions of years and always will. What you can do, and I think the smart thing to do, is to adapt to it. My issue is that net zero is the wrong thing at the wrong time at the wrong price. And we are impoverishing ourselves. We're destroying jobs and industries.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's a nonsense figure. That 99% figure is a nonsense figure. The reality is I can give you a list of a thousand sciences who disagree. Science has never settled. It always evolves. But here's the point.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You never read that Norway's equivalent of the Office for National Statistics produced a report a few months back that said having looked at the real time data, they do not see evidence that man-made CO2 emissions is responsible for the global warming over the last 150 years.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Man-made CO2 emissions exist and you can debate whether it's between 3% and 5% had a bit of a ding dong with question time about that or 5% of all CO2 emissions are man-made. The balance of 95 to 97% is natural. CO2 emissions.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I first met Liz Truss when she helped me write a think tank pamphlet for a think tank coincidentally named Reform back in 2007 about academies.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Frankly, it's ridiculous given that the numbers are all out there in the contract. The draft contract was out there for about four months beforehand. What they're suggesting is that someone who's got probably the most successful business track record, I run a multi-billion pound multinational business listed on the stock exchange, where in four years I tripled the share price, I've been around the block, I've got a successful track record, I sold up before the financial crash, I know what I'm doing. So for these economists who've never run a business themselves, give us a call, folks, and of course you're not going to impose huge tax cuts without first of all doing the savings to pay for them.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just look, it's reality. If you're a serious economist and you do some calculations, as often in the political world, journalists look at something and then they phone someone up and they say, this is our view, how do you comment? To not comment on that, when actually if you look at our election contract, all the numbers are out there. And on the three big things that I was challenged on by various people, I've actually been proven right on. So with regard to whether or not the Bank of England should voluntarily be paying interest on all the printed money, I was the first person in the political world to raise it. Journalists were scratching their head. Economists looked at it. And guess what? I was right. It's now broadly accepted. You can have a debate about the number. Is it $25 billion? Is it $30 billion? I was a first person to say we shouldn't be doing quantitative tightening. I said, if you, I put a number on net zero that I call net stupid zero, give or take $30 billion. Well, now it turns out, once again, the...”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course, I'm not, but I'm saying you need smart billions of pounds. And I'm not saying you force that. But what I'm saying is where things go wrong, British Steel has gone badly wrong. Nigel and I, we said six years ago to the then Conservative government, don't sell British steel to the Chinese.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But they probably put a price, for example, on Thames water, okay? Thames water is, as we speak, in serious financial trouble, and we very clearly in the press said that that should be allowed to go bust, it shouldn't be sold to private equity companies that want to charge ever higher and look for sort of mid-teen returns, let it go bust and all the shareholders and the debt holders caveat emptor, they had the chance, they know what they're doing, they've blown it, the taxpayer should buy it for a pound, great deal.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I've got a bit of actually practical common sense about understanding what our strategic national assets. And we've got to be prepared in life to learn where things have gone well, but where they have gone badly. And privatization of water companies and critical national assets. You talk about utilities, you talk about the infrastructure of utilities. So water is clearly an infrastructure. The electricity pipe works, gas transmission pipeworks, that is infrastructure. The retailers who sell electricity, that's not part of your crucial infrastructure, but those, my model is slightly different. It's where you say, okay, instead of having a conflict between the taxpayer and the private company owning and running that infrastructure, what about if you have a joint venture? Let's call it a 50-50 for ease of maths, where you've got half public ownership, half owned by British pension funds as long-term patient.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you're a multi-millionaire, yeah, I've worked hard, I've been successful, and yes, I had an early Kickstarter, but I do remember, for example, the family business when I arrived in the early 90s, it was very difficult for property companies. One of the first things I did was go to a bank with a draft of a letter that said, we can't repay you as you expect, and therefore here are the keys to this property that you've lent on. So that's a sort of quite a searing experience”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's fair to ask. I mean I wouldn't specifically answer it. Obviously, I've been through a divorce. That comes with a price. But look, the reality is...”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't whinge, get up, get out and get on. And that is very much part of my sort of my thinking. I think it's really important. You don't succeed by sitting on your backside. And she wanted people to be doers. People of action. And even when back in the, I do remember in the early 70s when you had your telly, because you had no remote control back in those days. So I had to sit close to the telly so that if I heard her come in the door, I could press the button and pretend I was doing something else before she realized I was watching Telly.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, look, I mean, mum was an equestrian person to her fingertips, so much though that actually very often asked children, are washing, we'd go in the washing machine with the horse rug and sometimes come out dirtier and smellier than it went in. But that was her lifestyle growing up on a farm. There's a lovely story of actually when she was in her early twenties, Bernard Sully, her father, in those days, the idea of a lady driving a horse box was completely unacceptable. And so she was told in no uncertain terms, if you drive the horsebox again, you'll have to get rid of all the horses. And of course, she ignored those instructions.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably not. I mean, he's definitely the reason why I went into property, both his son, John Sunley, and it's a family thing. And if you cut me in half, real estate oozes through my veins. So that's very much the background. I've always been very lucky, but I've worked hard and been lucky enough to lead some great business.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He did, and it was very much a thing that you could do in those days. And unlike today's very sort of careful world, I think it was appreciated and Churchill had a long track record of writing back, and there's a lovely letter, thanking for the cigars and Woody Mail and Odd have smoked them. That was a real thing back in those days.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And that was one of his first big breaks in, I think it was around the 1930s. He relayed the pitch at Highbury Football Grand for Arsenal. And somewhere in the family memorabilia, there's a big poster of it. So, yeah, and then in the Second World War, he was involved in the war effort in terms of mining for materials, of course, for the war effort. And then post-war, the rebuilding of towns and cities. There were suddenly houses sort of 1950s, 60s office buildings dotted around the place. One of his ambitious things was perhaps very happily rejected by the planners, many of us property people, you know, we sort of resolved from planners. But I think his proposal to demolish the writs on Piccadilly and replace it with a boring 1960s office building was sensibly rejected.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He did, but sadly, he died literally, I think, just a couple of months after I was born. So whilst I didn't have the privilege of knowing him, and he died very young aged, 54, I think it was, his achievements and his sort of sense of ambition and go for it and try things, think big was it is a remarkable story. He was one of the great post-war entrepreneurs, regenerative property developers.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is a fair summer, and of course I was incredibly lucky to have the kick start in life that I had in so many different ways. And yeah, many might say, oh, just, you know, born with a silver spoon in his mouth. But my response was that my response to that is, yeah, okay, fine. They're right. But it's what you do with it. It's whether you roll your sleeves up, get stuck in, whatever it is, work hard and try and make a difference. And in a sense, as I look back, that's what I hope that I've done and continue to do.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, you know, I enjoy dealing with money. I've been involved in dealing with money in my business career over decades. And that was sort of as part of my journey, I thought I'd try and be successful in business. And then if I can give something back in some form of public life, whatever that might be, well, so much the better.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, but if you don't try, you've got no chance in any walk of life. And that was very much how I was brought up, that you've got to just push on. And occasionally, you've got to take risks in life.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We knew something was happening and we just, but it's always hard to know what until actually the votes get counted on election day. And for sure, it was a huge honour and sometimes just actually still pinch myself to this day, waking up every day and thinking, wow. And I'm 60, when many people are sort of thinking, well, I've had a good run, I'll take the foot off the gas. I'm sort of like a kid with a new toy, which is this is for real. We have actually, I think we've got a real opportunity to shape an influence. Arguably, we are shaping and influencing already.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think it's been an extraordinary journey. It really has. And just the sort of sense we've been really saying since just before the general election where something's happening out there and it was getting meaningful momentum during the general election campaign and that momentum has just continued apace ever since and so that becomes ever more tenable.”
2025-05-16 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Richard Tice One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source