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Ricky Van Veen
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“A girl will come up and say, or a guy will come and say, Can I have a photo? And I'm always the one who says, I'll take it just to make it go faster, right? Instead of like, yeah. But other than that, I can opt out.”
2015-12-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Ricky Van Veen, CollegeHumor Co-Founder · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, the difference is, you know, I could go out and not have people ask for selfies with me everywhere I went. And it is funny to think about that New Yorker piece because to think now, the idea of a writer going into David Remnick's office and saying I've got a story for you. Guys, four guys in their twenties started an internet company in Tribeca. He'd be like, is this a joke pitch? But back then, Rebecca Meade wrote this story and it was novel. You know, I think, you know, there are so many people doing right now what we did back then. It was just timing. We happened to be ahead of it. And I do like being kind of undercover well-known better than Allison's life, which is, you know, obviously being more in the spotlight.”
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“So we'll wrap it up in a second. You came to New York, you sold the company or part of the company to Barry Diller, and you guys were a big deal for a while. You were New York famous. You were profiled in the New Yorker. A gawker wrote stories about you guys. Now you're married to someone who is more famous than that. Do you have perspective sort of on what Allison's life is like compared to your turn in the spotlight?”
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“Yeah, time travel. I'd probably be like, All we need is to get people to look and that was true ten years ago. I remember when we started college humor. Josh, my co-founder, his brother worked at a company called Advertising.com. This is 2000. And he basically said, it's a newspaper. If you get people to go, you can sell ads. And when you're getting like $30 CPMs or whatever you're getting in 2000, like, yeah, it's how it works. But yeah, definitely have the benefit of hindsight on that one.”
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“Yeah. I mean, you could always have a website for SEO if people want to find an archive of your stuff, but it shouldn't be the primary distribution mechanism. And I would cover something very specific and build out from there. So let's see if I was at Wake Forest today, I would say, I'm going to start with ACC football. And because I know there's an audience for that, and they're probably not that well served. And so I'm going to just write about ACC football, build that up, see if people will, you know, either buy merchandise or subscribe to what I have to say, then grow from that. And so we're going to cover another conference. And sooner or later, you have a sports subscription media company. And obviously all those steps are much easier said than done.”
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“See, I would, I think right now, if you wanted to get into media, you have to think I need to figure out how to use influence to sell something, right? I would start and I would publish directly on platforms. I probably wouldn't even have a website.”
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“So you co-founded college humor while you were in college at Wake Forest and then built that into a thing. If you were at college today and were starting an internet media company or a media company, what do you think that would look like?”
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“Yeah, I mean, it's all about the holy grail in media is recurring subscription revenue, right? So you can. You can make programming for your audience ahead of your audience to do a, otherwise you're just doing a Kickstarter every time you want to have a new show, essentially.”
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“Yeah, I think, but as long as it's targeted at a passionate audience, if you take CBS is a gigantic company with great content and all this stuff, the CBS app, it's probably not as popular as Crunchyroll, you know, because if you're a CBS viewer, you're like, you're probably like as priced from Amazon put it, like, he'd rather have three people love his content than 10 people like it. And I think that's the crunchy roll approach. And you see it being rolled out in other companies like Drama Fever, which is soap operas from overseas. Like, there's an audience for that in the U.S.”
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“I think this is a much smarter path because I think you can get there by tapping niche audiences. Like there are passionate people will pay for things.”
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“Churn himself very smart, then you can build off of that. But a point I make in the article is that Turnin said, I want to start the next Hulu, it's impossible. It's a cover that much ground, to be a general entertainment company, costs you billions of dollars to get it.”
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“Yep, there is a large audience worldwide and in the US for this anime content. And it's the kind of thing like League of Legends where people in the media intelligentsia don't know it, but it's gigantic. So their model is you can see old episodes for free, or you can pay $4.99 a month or whatever it is and get access to day-and-day episodes as they are in Japan. 700,000 people have signed up for this. It's grown, I think, threefold in the past year or something. It's just really remarkable. And that's, I look at that business and I'm like, that is, you know, we talk about cable being in a good place, like that's starting to look like cable. You have people who subscribe to content brands. They trust what the content brand is going to put out. And they give them their credit card and they say, take care of the rest. Now, I think what Chernin should do, and they are a very sharp group.”
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“Yep, now on his own. And, you know, I think he probably has a long kind of vision on this stuff and saw where things were going. And I think maybe bought it like a year or two ago.”
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“The point was, and I have to give this to Jonathan Glick, who made this point, like he said, if Rupert Murdoch was trying to influence an election, we would know it. We'd be like, okay, well, the New York Post says it's like, but with Mark or with, you know, he's so powerful that he can do it and you wouldn't even know. And like, of course he's not going to do that. Seems like a great person. But in terms of like if he was a bad person, like, yeah, that's an unprecedented level of world power. That was my argument.”
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“Then speaking of identity, do you say Mark Zuckerberg's the most powerful person in the world? This seems like actually a fairly straightforward argument, right? Facebook's maybe the biggest media company in the world or maybe the most powerful media company, probably neck and neck with Google and Apple. You can throw them in there. Mark runs it. I mean, it's a positive.”
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“I don't have the answer to that, but I mean, I can, you know, you look at Twitter, I think there are a lot of people who aren't, who signed on to Twitter. And maybe just the reason they haven't gone back in a while is because of this thing. It just got exhausting to see everybody constantly identity creating.”
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“Yeah, I mean, I guess the question is, what do you value more? The cathartic feeling for people to do that, or do we think it's self-serving? Which one of those forces is kind of pulling more?”
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“Yeah, I kind of see it both ways. I mean, it's exhausting if, again, if you spend all your time there and maybe you should walk away from Facebook periodically. But on the other hand, that impulse to sort of say, yeah.”
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“But you get numb to it when you're just scrolling through your Instagram feed and it's just like people's photos of when they were in Paris five years ago and like this is my like this is love this city and you're just yeah it can get exhausting”
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“What about people who aren't professional content makers? My wife and I were talking about this. She was like, I don't really know that I. I want to throw my wife under the bus because I just did. Maybe she won't hear it. She said, I don't really want to know that all my friends support. Paris, I do too, but I don't think that saying it out loud makes changes anything. I used to be the cynical one of this shit. And I said, yeah, I know, but on the other hand, people want to. Emote, right? And like it seems like a not bad thing for them to go to Facebook and Say something right. But you get numb to it when you”
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“You know, I think Everybody online needs a take, right? And it's like if you don't have a take, what are you like, why are you tweeting, right? You're not going to tweet just to say hello. And so I feel like people feel like they need to take, and you see every brand tweeting out their condolences, like whether it's like Arby's or I don't know if Arby's did that. Maybe they did. It just, it kind of just...”
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“I think this is going to err, or whatever the right verb for podcast distributed is. Drop. Let's say drop. Drop. It's going to drop a few weeks into maybe early December. So it'll be a few weeks after the attacks in Paris. But we're talking a couple days after the attacks in Paris.”
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“Yeah, it's People who They're probably happy, but it's getting kind of tiring to be like, all right, another point I make in the piece is like, all right, it's Columbus Day. Time for the backlash and then the backlash to the backlash. And I just feel like there's been nothing new in the last couple years to get excited about.”
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“There are a few things into that. One was kind of just the plethora of just everybody's re-blogging, everybody else, and publishers are using tools where they can see what's trending. And I would say sites like Recode and the Information, they don't do this. But there are so many just like content farms out there. They just see what's trending, rewrite it, but make the headline a little more salacious to get more clicks and a little further away from what the actual story is. And then it just gets regurgitated. And it seems like this pattern of like the same things every day. Who are we going to put in the outrage cycle today? Is it Matt Damon's time? Like, great, let's get him and he'll trend for a day and a half, and then it'll go away.”
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“You're saying this is not Facebook's fault, this is something else's fault. The reason I said the internet sucks was a few things. And obviously it's meant to kind of be incendiary and provoking. I'm still on the internet all day every day, even though I making it suck every day. Even though I'm making it”
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“I think they're probably like what they value is engagement. And I think if that, you know, I'm not speaking for Facebook, but it seems like if a story about your kid gets me to look at Facebook as much as a story from the New York Times, then they're probably like, okay, we have a happy customer.”
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“They would like them to still be around. On the other hand, do you think they value something from the New York Times or Recoat or College Humor anymore or less than a picture of my kid or a picture of someone's cat?”
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“Sure, seems like it's going that way. You know, I think there is, I mean There is incentive for Facebook to make sure that publishers can monetize or else there's no more publishers. So from what I hear, that's being figured out. Facebook rolled out video ads and to go along with video and for premium publishers, they're going to see a cut of that.”
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“I mean, Facebook's goal, like any other business, is to get you to use the product as much as possible. And there's no doubt that loading a Facebook instant article is faster than going off a Facebook into Safari within Facebook or Safari out of Facebook. So I think that's their intention. Will it hurt publishers? We'll see if that can be reconciled with advertising or whatever. But for most publishers, the model they have now, yes, that's not going to jive well with it.”
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“I don't buy it. And the data that I've seen doesn't support that. And I think eventually if you're eight years old, you're probably not going to go on Facebook. You're going to play games or be on Snapchat or whatever it is. But I think eventually for the mature world, Facebook is the internet. And I make the point in that piece, like what used to be the web, you know, surfing the web is now just surfing Facebook. People don't type in URLs anymore and press enter. We are now in the referral age. You go to Facebook and you get referred out of it to a different site. What we're entering, and this is a point that now this news both made publicly and capitalized on, we're in the platform age. You will live on Facebook and Content there.”
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“No, no, no. It's also Mark Zuckerberg's fault. No, no, no. I'm not suggesting that. I'll get to each point. So Facebook is the internet. Basically, I'm saying Facebook is where the average person around the world goes to consume content and to connect with friends and to see what's going on in the world. And it's become the stutter step. Like people open their web browsers or people turn on their phones and they either type in FA and then it autofills and they go to Facebook or they click the Facebook app or they go to Facebook.”
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“So, the title of the essay is Facebook is the Internet Dinner Party conversation. So there's three things you say that seem connected to me. One is you say Facebook is the Internet. The second thing you say is the internet kind of sucks right now. And then you say, since Mark Zuckerberg runs Facebook, he's the most powerful person in the world”
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“Yeah, you know, but unless you're like a one person shop and you just have a successful blog and you stick a banner up there and you can eke out an income. But I don't think any real business, any solid businesses are going to be built on just having an audience.”
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“Exactly. You just put up a 300 by 250 box and you say, right, whoever wants a bid on it can burn it. And that's, you will, if your costs are very, very low, you can make a little money. As content moves onto platforms like YouTube, like Facebook, you can't put your programmatic ads on that, right? And right now, if you're publishing directly to Facebook via instant articles, unless you are going out and actively selling ads, you're not commanding these premium dollars that you could on your own property. So my point is that just because you have a lot of people's attention, like, you know, we get lots of video views on our Facebook videos, like that doesn't mean we're going to make a cent. We have to then do something with that. We have to sell branded content to advertisers and use that audience. You have to get your audience to do something. You can't just have the audience.”
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“Well, here's the thing. I think if you have a big audience on your own owns and operated website, you can fill it with programmatic advertising and”
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“We got to get to leave that on Apple. And then one of the other interesting ideas you bring up is the notion that, and this is again, this is a truism on the internet in particular, which is if you get a big enough audience, you can monetize it somehow and you say, no, it's not the case. A big audience doesn't mean you have a business.”
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“You may as well go this route. Your top line might be lower, but I think your bottom line might be the same or better. I mean, people may insist they might go to their Time Warner cables and say, hey, I want this channel. It's great. It has exactly the shows I want and it doesn't have ads. Like, make sure that's in the bundle. And I'm not going to go and do a separate $8 month HBO subscription for that channel, but I will insist that it's in the bundle and that will just those sub fees will be enough to make a profitable channel.”
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“Yeah, well, no, I actually think it might just be a smarter business model. If you no longer have to fill an entire 24-hour day with programming, then you can concentrate on what matters. Like, let's get a few marquee shows that draw people in that are a good fit for our brand, and they'll subscribe to it in their cable bundle. And if”
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“Talking about that whole ecosystem. The TV industrial complex. It seems like the trendy thing to say is Cable's dead. TV's dead. But I actually think for where I see things ending up, they're extremely well positioned to make that transition. Can they do it? I mean, that's the big question. But my point was, I think the point I made in the piece was I think it's better off than people give it credit for.”
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“So, when you say pay TV is in better shape than people think, are you talking about Time Warner Cable and the other people who own the pipes? You're talking about the people who own the programming? I'm talking about that whole ecosystem. The TV industrial complex.”
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“Well, no, I'm saying this is what I'm saying. It's definitely challenged, right? There's no doubt about that. But I think it's better off than people give it credit for because they have the infrastructure to transition to whatever the next thing is where digital does not. Like cable already has the billing relationship. They already have people subscribing to content brands, whether they know it or not. It's all in that bundle. And they also have the bundle, which I think is, you know, despite the bad rap it gets is a really great way, an easy way to consume content.”
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“There is no doubt that people watch less television and like that you just look around. It's hard to get people to look up from their phones to the TV. And I realized that when I think it was maybe like two years ago, Kean Peel did a video that they put on YouTube letting their YouTube subscribers know and begging them, letting them know they had a TV show and begging them to, hey, we have a show, watch it. That's crazy. Like if you are, you theoretically, if you are a Key and Peel fan enough to subscribe to the YouTube channel, you would want to watch their TV show.”
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“There's 90 million households paying for this stuff, but you look around, you ask your friends or your younger friends in New York or in college or definitely on the West Coast, and everyone claims they don't watch.”
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“Better off than. I think it's better off than people think. I mean, it's the, you know, maybe it's just the media pundit world that we live in, but people give it no credit. And it's like, hey, millions of people still watch this for, like, the average American consumer watches, was it 4.5 hours of TV a day?”
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“All right, I still have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to end up spending my remaining years working on a reality TV show, which as long as I can pay my mortgage, I have no complaints. So let's start there. I want to go over some of the points. We won't go through all of them, but some of the points you bring up in your piece, I think one of the first ones that caught my eye was you argue, look, paid TV business, cable business is in much better shape than you think. Is it actually in good shape or that it's just better off than”
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“Probably the latter. Also, starting to see, it's. It's hard to make a giant business out of something where there are no bearers to entry. And at College Humor and Electus Digital, which is the kind of little parent company within IC has us and a site called Dorkley, which is just blowing up. It's like nerd fandom culture and a hip-hop property called Watch Loud. We have healthy advertising revenue there and we make great stuff for advertisers. But to really have a giant business unless you have at the vice level where you're just, but then again, we'll go back to this, but like, you know, vice isn't making their money from banner ads either. Like, you know, you have to have something else to it. And so together we have this dual revenue stream of advertising and also taking our content.”
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“So, we're going to get into this in a minute. But did you have this thesis when you sort of started making TV or did you start making TV because it was a fun thing to do and you'd already done internet”
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“Yeah Exactly. Because it's some pranks that were famous for. It's a lot of it's not super advertiser friendly that it's a lot of TNA, as they say. But that doesn't matter because they make money on merchandise. And another business like Crunchyroll, that has a very large following, but they charge people to subscribe for the freemium. So we're going to get into this in a minute.”
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“No, no, it goes on forever. It never stops. It keeps going. I mean, maybe it will go on forever. But at some point, you have to kind of find a model. And I think models are emerging. So I would point to the chive. I know they do very, very well with merchandise.”
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“I live in a desert island. I don't think it ends up at zero. I think overall people's attention will go to things that aren't monetized as well, right? So me looking at Instagram for 20 minutes a day is probably taking away from me watching TV. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to watch Mr. Robot or the Prophet, my favorite show on television. I still watch a lot of TV and I still look at digital stuff all day. But I think anything that is premium in digital, whether that's video or editorial, I think is it eventually people will have to pay something for it or it can't get made. Like the venture capital money only lasts so long.”
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