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Rob Bell

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  1. My 13 year old son and I will often go surfing. It will be sitting in the water And it's quiet. Sometimes a dolphin will go by and the talk. It's perfect. Perfect. Yeah Oh, so wonderful.

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  2. That you can say yes to this moment. An experience, a joy that can't be put into words that is actually possible. I know that for sure.

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  3. I think there's a ton of Because there's all these people that have gone before you. And some people say, well, then you meet God. I think, yeah, but I never met my grandpa on my dad's side So actually, when I think of dying, I think of I'll get to meet Preston. That's actually what I think of first. I don't think of sort of gold and a throne and like a hello Rob, well done. You're strange, but I like you anyway. I don't think of that. I think of my grandpa that I never met. To be honest, like heritage and family bloodline.

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  4. that there's nothing to prove. You're young and you start out and you're like, I can work harder, I can work faster, I'm smarter, look at me, respect everybody understand what I'm, and then later you realize there's nothing to prove anymore. All that's left to do is enjoy.

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  5. Well, you know, some say that religions people don't want to go to hell and spiritualized people who've been to hell already. Religion should be the structures, the prayer tables, the things that you do in the course. It should help you. It should cultivate. It should be the practices. It should be the symbols. It should be the rituals that cultivate your sense that there's more.

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  6. A song you hear in another room and you think, boy, that sounds beautiful, but I only can hear a little bit. So you start opening doors and rearranging furniture because you have to get in that room to hear that song. When you get in, you find the knobs and you turn them all to the right because you're like, I got to hear more of that. And then you open the windows because you want the people in the next houses to hear everything.

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  7. It's the thing that keeps telling you there's more. There's more. There's more. This isn't just a meal. This isn't just a person. This isn't just an embrace. This isn't just an interview.

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  8. Yeah, it's waking up and going, guess what we get to do today? Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. Can you celebrate all that? And it was thrilling, and it was great, and you got to be a part of that, and it's overwhelming that your life could be this amazing, but you still have to wake up today. And if you don't have a sense of...

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  9. Work of doing that. Yeah, yeah. And when you see someone who's had that experience Unbelievably inspiring. We have this crisis of wonder. We have the modern world. We have everything we ever needed and yet people are more bored than ever. I know that's why you said that

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  10. I want more people. Have a sense. That they are loved, that the grace of God is real and it's for them, and that when Jesus talked about eternal life, a certain kind of life that you can have in relationship with God now that people would taste that. And in response to that gift, say, well, what can I do and find their calling, find the thing that gets them up in the morning, find the work, the task, the art Leaves them saying, Man, I could do this forever. That's what I love. I love to see that moment. I'd love to see that moment.

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  11. Yeah, exactly. Bending towards It is this sense that don't tell me the best days, there is something within me that tells me there's a reason to keep going. Even if that's all you have, you have something pretty big there. That's overwhelming

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  12. And 2% would say, yeah, I'm religious. And yet a guy talks about the moral arc of the universe and they go, yes, yes. It's almost like there's an intuitive, if I give up on the most basic impulse I have that there's some point.

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  13. Okay, I went to the TED conference last year. They had asked how many people are religious. And a friend of mine with guess was 2% of the people raised their hands. A couple days later, a guy named Brian Stevenson talks. He's this lawyer. He works in the South with young men who have sort of been on the wrong end of the justice system, and he gave this talk about justice. At the end, he quoted Martin Luther King, who was quoting someone else, and he finishes with us the moral arc of the universe, but it bends towards justice. And they give him a standing ovation. So this is sort of the nexus of technology and design and education and I mean and innovation. This is the crowd.

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  14. You know what I mean? Scene is different. It's a different set of muscles. I mean, this is stunning and beautiful and lots of people would go, wow, but it's in moments that are darker and in uglier environments to still see that little piece of light. Like that's the task.

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  15. Yeah, it's one thing to have your head filled with all of the proper whatever thinking, whatever you were told was the right doctrine or whatever you told was orthodox or whatever you told you're in and everybody else is out, whatever that. But it's another thing. To be sitting there with somebody and you're listening to them and you realize this person has more to teach me than every book I've read.

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  16. There's a moment when they realize, hey, wait, this is TV, but it's more than TV. Yeah. This is cleaning houses. Wait, this is more than cleaning houses.

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  17. You know, I just met a guy who cleans houses for a living. And we're just chatting because we have like a mutual friend. And I said, so you clean, tell me more about that. And he says, people allow me into their homes to bring order and cleanliness. I was like, wow, you take this really seriously. He's like, oh, the fact that people would allow me into their most intimate spaces so that I could help a family bring order and beauty and cleanliness to their home so that they could have this kind of place to come home to. This is somebody who's figured it out. And I was like, they must be so lucky to have you clean their house. He's like, I'm the one who's blessed.

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  18. I'm here. They'll be like, well, I have my spiritual life. Then I have my work and I have my relationships and I have the things I do to sort of wait wait wait.

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  19. Whenever I meet people who seem to be more wide awake than others. I always ask when did you suffer? Just the other day I was in Denver and met this guy who's like fifty eight, sixty and had this joy. And I asked one of the people who worked for him, what's his story? And they're like, oh, in his 30s he had a total meltdown and lost it all and ended up by the side of the road. Like literally just, I have nothing. He knows how it can all pass in a moment. There's nothing left but joy. That's how it works

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  20. I could like it sounds if I talk about, but like my kids would walk in the room and I would like to tear up at how beautiful they are. So it's because of concussion.

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  21. Yes. This was the summer of 2000, and I was really into water skiing and specifically trying to do a backflip. And I had done like 20 in a row, and I landed on my head each time, and I got in the boat. I don't remember it from there on, but someone apparently asked me what day it was, and I was like, I have no idea. And so I had basically a concussion, like a football player would have. But what it did is my brain could only do this moment. I am talking to Oprah right now and she's wearing a turquoise shirt.

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  22. But that's what we have. That's what we have. And that we... We burn an extraordinary amount of energies on our regrets of past or our stresses about where it's going to go.

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  23. That is earth and heaven coming together in this place right here. We even talk about heaven on earth. We sort of joke about that, but that's what he teaches us to do. Like when you forgive somebody, when you are generous, when you withhold judgment and you love, when you stand up for injustice, you are in that moment bringing heaven to earth. My understanding of God is the one who is way ahead pulling us all forward to do a better future. Peace, justice, beauty, love, equality. The God is actually ahead and that a promise is essentially a statement about that which is not yet true. And so my experience has been for lots of people. This turns the whole discussion around.

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  24. And I think when it comes to spirituality, this is the, for many people, like the missing piece, I'm not talking about sort of esoteric ideas about maybe someday when you die, you can get the proper sort of Ferrari on Gold Streets. I'm talking about what happens when you experience right here, right now.

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  25. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And on Earth is where it matters. Like when Jesus is teaching his disciples to pray, God, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So when he's teaching them, he's not saying, okay, here's the deal I'm gonna tell you what you need to do so you can get out of here someday. He's telling them what it looks like for this place to be more and more the place God.

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  26. Wants you to thrive, wants you to work through all your stuff, wants you to be healed in the sense of like figuring out your past and figuring out your addictions and all the stuff we all sort of stumble through life carrying around

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  27. For us, it is about human flourishing. When you hear the word God, do you think? God wants us to flourish, to get along, for there to be peace on earth, for there to be better art and more great food. And does God want us to take the best possible care of the earth? I believe at the heart of the Christian story is the God who comes among us because this God wants us to flourish, wants us to shine. Jesus even talks about shining like stars in the universe. My experience has been as a pastor, lots of people, when they start to start talking about spiritual things, somewhere in there is the God who's against us, who's mad, angry. And I'm trying to recapture no, for you.

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  28. Every single time around us. And so then, as a human, the art of it then is being awake and open and aware and sensitive to this presence right here and now in suffering and joy, in meeting a stranger. However, it works So that's what I mean by width.

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  29. Yes, exactly What I'm trying to do in the book is simply move a person's conception from somewhere out here optional to the very thing we're all plugged into.

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  30. Then the discussion becomes something far more different because we've all experienced that. I simply want to give the name God to that. So the person who says, oh, I don't know if I believe in God, but were you there in the hospital when your kid was born? Well, what else was that?

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  31. Exactly. So then you have pamphlets and you have this whole thing called apologetics, which is I'm going to prove to you that that God even exists, even though life goes on just fine here. So, what's fascinating is the ancient Hebrews have this word ruah, which they spoke of the life force that surges through all things. So it's the word in the very beginning of Genesis 1. Like the spirit hovering. But for many people in our world, spirit is that which is less real. You know what I mean? Oh, it's spiritual, which means there's sort of like jeans and shoes and plastic and porches. And then there's this other realm. Sort of less real. We even do this up. There's this stuff here

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  32. So, this framework then, however helpful it may be, raises a thousand questions because my friend just died of cancer. And what about the Holocaust? Because it would have been really nice to show up then. So you end up with a God, what it does in a far more subtle way is it Is that this world can go on Just fine. And that God becomes essentially optional. We then now have like

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  33. And so this God is somewhere else, and then from time to time, like people say, then God showed up. So apparently comes here from time to time. By the way, I don't think God shows up. I think we do

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  34. It's okay to be open It's okay to be open. For many people in the modern world, God is somewhere else. Generally, with a long beard on a cloud, And he was quite grumpy until Jesus came.

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  35. It's not crazy to acknowledge that there's a God. It may actually be the most rational move is simply to say, I come to the end of my own logical powers and acknowledge there's too much that's beyond what we can sort through using these little brains that we have. And for 300 years, the water we've been swimming in, that we've been handed by the Enlightenment tradition, which has brought us medicines and hospitals and all such wonderful things, has also brought us ultimately, if you cannot explain it. I don't know. And yet, we're fascinated as humans. We're wired for the mysterious. We love it. We're drawn to it. You can't stifle it.

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  36. And I seriously first and foremost to all the really smart, studied people who've been to the TED conference and have iPhones.

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  37. Well, I think it cuts people off from celebrating to me the only kind of faith worth having is faith that can celebrate the good and the true and the beautiful and wherever you find it. It's a big, buoyant sort of expansive embrace of everywhere you find it.

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  38. Even like a category, it's that which I don't know why I love that song. And I could try to explain to you that album and how it touched me and moved me and how I crank it up in my car when I'm all alone and I get all like what I'm singing. And it's so real to me what that collection of songs does. And yet if I had to like, you know, put it out on paper A, B, C, D, I don't know.

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  39. Everybody's really leaping. Everybody's really taking sort of fragments and the shrapnel you have of your experiences. And you're leaping into this story or this story. I'm going to make the leap that what I do matters, that I'm not an accident, that there is some call on my life. That itself is actually a leap. And other people go, this is all there is. At some point, you're going to die and they're going to bury you, and you're going to be eaten by the worms. And I mean, everybody ultimately is leaping. And I think the people in the modern world with the most sort of, this is the rational scientific evidence why there is no God, that's just as much a leap

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  40. Believe in something that you can't prove. And this is because you can't seek Yeah, that's the thing about the modern world it did took truth for many people and it put it through this unbelievably narrow filter of rational scientific analysis, but then explain why do you love that person? Well, I just do. Some of the things that we're most convinced are true, we can't jam through that filter.

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  41. In the book, I sort of talk about there's a very popular voice that says this is all there is. We're simply just a complex arrangement of neurons and synapses, and you're the sum of your biology And it's very articulate and it can be very funny and very compelling, and it can explain why there have been bad wars and the Crusades and such. And so people go, yeah, yeah, great. Yeah, I'm with that, but it still leaves people with this giant. Then how do I explain when my first kid was born or when my partner embraces me or when I sit with my favorite friends on the deck having a meal and something within me, we use the word like that meal was transcendent. What do we mean? We mean it was both here and yet it sort of pointed beyond itself. It seems to be a reference. The great German theologian Jurgan Maltman talks about it's like an echo.

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  42. And they take a bunch of classes, whether it's biology or comparative religions, and they're like, The idea of the divine then gets firmly placed. That was back when I was a kid. That was my adolescence. That was summer camp. That was my parents. But I've moved past that. Look at all the things. But seriously, we need a God now. Look at us. We're going to start traveling to space here pretty soon if Richard Branson or somebody can arrange that in time. And yet, the same people would say to you, seriously, church, come on. We'll also talk about a sunset or a glass of wine and talk about, oh, it was amazing. It was like transforming. Talk about that.

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  43. But they've shut those factories down. They're not making them anymore. And Mike's. Experiences interacting with lots of very educated, intelligent people who have traveled and have a thousand songs in their pocket with their iPhone. I mean, they live in this modern, gleaming, shimmering world and are like, seriously, God, come on. Really? Gets a giant step backwards. So I was in the book trying to look for like, what's the image of the metaphor that sort of summarizes to me the lots of people I've interacted with when you talk about God? You know what I mean? It's like, oh yeah, that was nice. That worked for my parents. Or they grow up in a religious home. Then they go to university

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  44. And people can do like a was at a Delta 88 or a 98. And that was the moment. And if you'd made it. Or if you've done something, man, you got an old mobile.

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  45. You know, I grew up in the center of Michigan and older made down the road, and that was the thing, like Thanksgiving after the meal, the uncles and grandpas all went in the garage.

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  46. Whatever that discussion is, people immediately take that to mean whatever struggle I'm going through, whatever life is really like for me, God is against me. I'm on my own. And maybe I have a couple of friends. And so there is this extraordinary thing that you and I and others have tapped into where you are not alone and there is help and there is guidance.

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  47. I think there are moments. When a word has got so much stuff attached to it that you have to just brush all that off and go, what do we really mean? And for many people, like I talk about in the book, God is against us. God doesn't want human flourishing. God is the one waiting to punish or torment or torture. Yeah, so people...

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