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  1. And to me, it was as much a miracle as if I'd been able to walk on water. Because I had tried everything earnestly, sincerely, and honestly for a decade to try to stop. And I could not do it under my own power. And then all of a sudden it was lifted effortlessly. And, you know, so I saw that evidence. Early evidence of God in my life, and I'm of the power. And I see it now, you know, every day in my life.

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  2. I feel I feel God's power coming through me and that I can do things are much more effective as a human being. That gnawing anxiety that I lived with for so many years. And my God, that it's gone. And that I can kind of like put down the oars and hoist the sail and, you know, and the wind takes me. And I can see the evidence of it in my life. And the big thing, the temptation for me is that. When all these good things start happening in my life and the cash and prizes start flowing in. How do I maintain that posture of surrender? How do I surrender then? When on my inclination is to say to God, thanks God, I got it from here. Drive the car off the cliff again. And so, you know, I had a spiritual awakening and my desire for drugs and alcohol was lifted miraculously.

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  3. Not and so do I put the water in the ice tray before I put in the freezer do I put the shopping cart back in the place that it's supposed to go in the parking lot of the safeway and if I make a whole bunch of those choices right that I maintain myself in a posture of surrender which keeps me open to the power of to my higher power to my God and when I do those things right when I you know so much about addiction is about abuse of power you know abuse of All of us have some power, whether it's good looks or whether it's connections or education or family or whatever. And there's always a temptation to use those to fulfill self-will. And the challenge is how do you use those always to serve? Instead, God's will and the good of our community. And that, to me, is kind of the struggle. And when I do that,

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  4. And so that's what I started doing. I just started pretending there was a God watching me all the time and kind of life was a series of tests. And there was a bunch of moral decisions that I had to make every day. And each one, you know, these were all just little things that I did. But each one now for me at a moral dimension, like when I, you know, when the alarm goes off, do I lay in bed for an extra 10 minutes with my indolent thoughts or do I jump right out of bed? Do I make my bed most important decision of the day? Do I hang up the towels? When I go into the closet and pull out my blue jeans and a bunch of those wire hangers fall on the ground, do I shut the door and say I'm too much?

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  5. I was already at a mindset where I would have done anything I could to improve my chances of never having to take drugs again by even 1% and if believing in God. Was going to help me. There's a God up there or not believing in one a self. The power to help me, I was going to do that. So then the question is how do you start believing in something that you can't see or smell or hear or touch or taste or acquire with your senses Young provides the formula for that. And he says, act as if you fake it till you make it.

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  6. And he believed that if he could beat the laws of chance, laws of mathematics, that he would approve the existence of an unnatural law, a supernatural law. And that was the first step to proving the existence of a God. He never succeeds in doing it, but he says in the book, even though I can't prove using empirical and scientific tools, the existence of a God. Can show through anecdotal evidence having seen thousands of patients come through this institution that people who believe in God get better faster and that the recovery is more enduring than people who don't. And for me, hearing that was more impactful than if he had claimed that he had proved the existence of a God because I wouldn't have believed that.

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  7. It's an incident, a coincidence, you know, and like if you're talking with somebody about somebody that you haven't thought about in 20 years and that person calls on the phone, that synchronicity, and he believed it was a way that God intervened in our lives that broke all the rules of nature that he had set up, the rules of physics, the rules of mathematics, you know, to reach in and sort of tap us on their shoulder and say, I'm here. And so he tried to reproduce that in a clinical setting. And he would put one guy in one room and another guy in another room and have them flip guards and guess what the other guy had flipped.

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  8. I'm in figure in the iconography of Egypt and the hieroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids, etc. And while he was talking to her, he heard this bing bing bing on the window behind him, and he didn't want to turn around to take his attention off her, but finally he does it. In exasperation, he turns around, he throws up the window, and his scarabetle flies in and lands in his head. And he shows it to the woman and he says, is this what you were thinking of? Is this what you were dreaming about? And he was struck by that experience, which was similar to other experiences he's had like that. And that's what synchronicity means to say.

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  9. And he was sitting up on the third floor of this building. And he's talking to a patient who was describing her dream to him. And the fulcrum of that dream was a scarab beetle, which was an insect that is very, very uncommon, if at all, in Northern Europe, but it's a

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  10. Young was a deeply spiritual man. He had these very intense and genuine spiritual experiences from when he was a little boy from earlier three years old that he remembers biography is fascinating about him because he remembers them with such a detail. And he... He had written, he was always interesting to me because he was a very faithful scientist and I considered myself a science-based person from when I was little. And yet he had this spiritual dimension to him, which infused all of his thinking and really, I think, made him, you know, branded his form of recovery or of treatment. And he thought that this experiment that he describes in this book, where he's sitting up on the third, he ran one of the biggest sanitariums in Europe in Zurich.

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  11. At a dissolute and fun loving youth and had this deep spiritual realignment. And I knew that that happened to people throughout history. And I thought that's what I needed something like that. I had the example of this friend of mine I used to think about him, and I would think this again reflects the bias, you know. The meanness of myself at that time, but I said I'd rather be dead than be a Mooney. But I wish I somehow could distill that power that he got without becoming a religious nuisance. And at that time I picked up a book by Carl Jung called Synchronicity. And Jung, he was a psychiatrist, contemporary at Freud's. He was Freud was his mentor and Freud wanted him to be his replacement, but Freud was Naval Atheist.

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  12. And reflecting my own prejudices at that time in my life, I said to myself, I didn't want to be like a drug addict who was wanting a drug all the time and just not being able to do it. I wanted to completely realign my. Myself so that I was somebody who got up every day and just didn't want to take drugs, never thought of them. You know, kiss the wife and children and went to work and never thought about drugs the whole day. And I knew that people throughout history had done that. I'd read the lives of the saints. I knew St. Augustine had met a very, very dissolute youth. And I had the spiritual reignment transformation. And I knew the same thing had happened to St. Paul at Damascus. The same thing had happened in St. Francis, St. Francis also had a...

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  13. I had iron willpower as a kid. I gave up candy for Lent when I was 12 and I didn't eat it again until I was in college. I gave up desserts the next year for Lent and I didn't ever eat another dessert till I was in college and I was trying to bulk up for rugby and for sports. So I felt like I could do anything with my willpower. But somehow. This particular thing, you know, the addiction was completely impervious to it. And it was cunning, baffling, baffling, incomprehensible. I could not understand why. I couldn't just say no and never do it again. Like I did with everything else. And so I was living against conscience and I thought about this guy.

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  14. I had a couple of experiences. One is that I had a friend of my brother's, one of my brothers who died of this disease of addiction. Had a good friend who had used to take drugs with us. And he became a Mooney. So he became a follower of Reverend South Moon. And he at that point, his compulsion, he had the same kind of compulsion that I had, and yet it was completely removed from him. And so, and he used to come and hang out with us, but he would not want to take drugs even if I was taken right in front of him. He was immune to it. He'd become impervious to that impulse. And when I was sober, I was. I knew that I did not want to be the kind of person who was, you know, waking up every day and white knuckling sobriety and just trying to resist throughpower and by.

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  15. My father read us the Bible whenever he was home, he would read us, you know, we'd all get in the bed and he'd read us the Bible stories. And I went to Catholic schools, I went to Jesuit schools, I went to the nuns, and I went to a Quaker school at one point. When I became a drug addict when I was about 15 years old, about a year after my dad died, I was addicted to drugs for 14 years. During that time, when you're an addict, you're living against conscience. And when you're living, I never, you know, I was always trying to get off of drugs, never able to, but I never felt good about what I was doing. And when you're living against conscious, you kind of push God to the peripheries of your life. I'll call me he. Receipts and get smaller. And then when I... When I got sober. I knew that.

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  16. Well, I mean, God is incomprehensible. I guess most philosophers would say, you know. We're inside the mind of God. And so it would be impossible for us to understand what actually what God's form is. But, I mean, for me, I have a Let's say this. I had when I was raised in a very, very deeply religious setting. So we went to church in the summer oftentimes twice a day. Morning Mass, and we went to, we definitely went every Sunday. And I went. We prayed in the morning, we prayed before and after every meal, we prayed at night. We set a rosary, sometimes three rosaries a night.

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  17. I talk to a lot of doctors about that stuff, you know, because I'm interested in health. And I've heard really good things about it, but I don't know. I'm definitely not an expert on it.

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  18. I do. I take a lot of vitamins. I can't even listen to you here because I couldn't even remember them all, but I take a ton of vitamins and nutrients. I'm on an anti-aging protocol from my doctor that includes testosterone replacement. But I don't take any steroids. I don't take any anabolic steroids or anything like that. And the DRT I use is bioidentical to what my body produced.

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  19. In the morning, I go to a meeting first thing in the morning, 12 sub meeting, and then I go hike and I hike uphill for a mile and a half up and a mile, half down with my dogs, and I do my meditations. And then I go to the gym and I go to the gym for 35 minutes. I don't do it short time in exercising for 50 years And what I found is it's sustainable if I do just a short periods. And I do four different routines of the gym. And I never relaxed at the gym. I go in there and I have a very intense exercise. I live, you know, I mean, I could tell you what my routine is, but I do backs one day back just one day Legs that are miscellaneous, and I do 12. My first set of everything is I try to reach failure at 12 reps. And then my fourth set of everything is a strip set.

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  20. I do intermittent fasting, so I eat between my first meal at around noon. And I tried it and stopped eating at six. And then I hike every day.

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  21. First of all, yeah, I don't consider myself a monitor and I've never considered myself a victim. I make choices about my life and I, you know, and I'm content with those choices and peaceful with them. I'm not trying to be a martyr or a hero or anything else. I'm doing what I think is right because I want to be peaceful inside of myself. But the only guard I have is fact-based reality. If you show me a scientific study It shows that I'm wrong. For example, if you come back and say, look, Bobby. Here's a polio. A safety study on polio that was done pre-licensed her and used a real saline solution. I'm going to put that on my Twitter and I'm going to say I was wrong. There is one out there. So, you know, but that's all I can do.

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  22. And people say to me, you know, oh, that's weird. I've never seen anybody apologize on Twitter, but I think it's really important at the only, of course human beings make mistakes. My book is, you know, 230 or 40, 50,000 words. There's going to be a mistake in there. But, you know, what I say at the beginning of the book. And if somebody points out a mistake, I'm going to change it. I'm not going to dig my feet in and say, you know, I'm not going to acknowledge this.

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  23. Our organization's newsletter, we summarize scientific reports all the time. That's one of the things, the services that we provide. So we watch the PubMed and we watch the peer-reviewed publications and we summarize them when they come out. We have made mistakes. When we make mistakes, we are rigorous about acknowledging it, apologizing for it, and changing it. That's what we do. I think we have one of the most robust fact-checking operations anywhere in journalism today. We actually do real science. And, you know, listen, I've put up on my Twitter account. There are numerous times that I've made mistakes on Twitter and I apologize for it.

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  24. Yeah, there are many times over a time that I, you know, I found that I've made mistakes and we correct those mistakes. You know, I run a big organization and I do a lot of tweets. You know, I'm very careful, for example, my Instagram. I was taken down for misinformation, but there was no misinformation on my Instagram. Everything that I cited on Instagram was cited resource to a government database or to peer-reviewed science. But for example, the defender which was our

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  25. And by the way, I've done that with Peter Hotes. I've actually, because I had this kind of informal debate with him several years ago with a referee at that time. And we were debating not only by phone, but by email. And on those emails, every point that he would make, I would cite science. And he could never come back with science. He could never come back with publications. He would give publications that had nothing to do with, for example, Fimerasol and vaccines, mercury-based vaccines. He sent me one time 16 studies to rebut something I'd said about thimerosol and not one of those studies. They were all about the MMR vaccine, which doesn't contain thimerosol. So it wasn't like a real debate where you're... You're using reason and isolating points and having a rational discourse. I don't think that he...

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  26. I think again, I'm not going to look into his head. What I will say is if you're a scientist and you're making public recommendations based upon what you say is evidence-based science, you ought to be able to defend that. You ought to be evident in a public forum and you ought to be able to defend it against all comers. And so if you're a scientist, science is based on, is rooted in logic and reason. And if you can't use logic and reason to defend your position, and by the way. I know almost all the studies. I've written books on them and we've made a big effort to assemble all the studies on both sides. And so I'm prepared to talk about those studies and I'm prepared to submit them in advance. And for each of the points.

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  27. People should because Paul OffStack recently debunking, I think my My discussion with Joe Rogan. And we have published a debunk of his debunking. So if you read his stuff, you should read

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  28. Think the polio vaccine did undergo a saline placebo trial prior licensure but not for safety only for efficacy. So I'm talking about safety trials. Now Fauci told me that he said I can't find one now. He had a whole tray of files there. He said, I can't find out one now, but I'll send you one. I said, just for any vaccines, send me one, for any of the 72 vaccines. He never did. So we sued the HHS, and after a year of stonewalling us, HHS came back. And they gave us a letter saying, we have no pre-licensing safety drought for any of the 72 vaccines. And that, the letter from HHS. Settled our lawsuit against them because we had a FOIA lawsuit against them is posted on CHD's website. So anybody can go look at it. So if CHD, if HHS had any study, I assume they would have given it to us and they can't find one.

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  29. Here's the thing is that I was saying that for many years because we couldn't find any. And then in 2016 in March I met President Trump, ordered Dr. Fauci to meet with me. And Dr. Fauci and Francis Collins and I said to them during that meeting. You have been saying that I'm not telling the truth when I said not one of these has undergone a prior prelicensor. Let's see if it control. And the polio may have had one post licensing. Most of them haven't. The point you may have, I don't know, but I said our question was prior to Licenser, do you ever test these? For safety. And by the way

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  30. You can't prove the link, all you can do is for any particular interest you can't, you can't prove the link, but you can show statistically that if you get that vaccine, you're more likely to die over the next six months than if you don't. And those studies, unfortunately, are not done for any other vaccines. So for every other medicine, In order to get approval from the FDA, you have to do a placebo-controlled trial prior to licensor where you look at health outcomes among an exposed group, a group that gets it, and compare those to a similarly situated group that gets a placebo. The only medical intervention that does not undergo placebo-controlled trials prior to licensor vaccines, not one of the 72 vaccines that are now mandated for our children have ever undergone a placebo-controlled trial prior to licensors.

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  31. And their attendance and protect it prior to the introduction of the vaccine. And for 30 years, nobody ever noticed it. The vaccine was providing protection against those target illnesses, but it had ruined the children's immune systems, and they could not defend themselves against random infections that were harmless to most children.

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  32. And they looked at 30 years of data for DTP vaccine, and they came back and they were shocked by what they found. They found that the vaccine was preventing kids from getting diphtheria tetinos pertosis. But the girls who got that vaccine were 10 times more likely to die over the next six months than children who didn't. Why is that? And they weren't dying from anything anybody ever associated with a vaccine. They were dying of anemia, heartia, malaria, sepsis, and mainly pulmonary and respiratory disease and pneumonia. And it turns out that's what the researchers found, who were all pro-vaccine, by the way. He said that this vaccine is killing more children.

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  33. And Bill Gates went to the Danish government and asked them to support this program, saying we've saved 30 million kids from dying from diphtheria, tendencies and protosis. The Danish government said, can you show us the data? And he couldn't. So the Danish government paid for a big study with Novo Nordisk, which is a Scandinavian vaccine company in West Africa. And they went to West Africa and they looked at the DP vaccine for 30 years of data. And they hire, they retain the best vaccine scientists in the world, these kind of deities of African vaccine program, Peter Aab, Sigrid Morgan, and a bunch of others.

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  34. And so when Reagan wrote the bill and passed it, the bill says in its preambles, because vaccines are unavoidably unsafe. And the Bruce Witz case, which was the Supreme Court case that upheld that bill, used that same language. Vaccines cannot be made safe. They're unavoidably unsafe. So this is what the law says. Now, I just want to finish this story because this illustrates very well your question. The DTP vaccine was discontinued in this country and it was discontinued in Europe because so many kids were being injured by it. However, the WHO went to Bill Gates, gives it to $161 million African children every year.

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  35. I kind of have to narrow in on Well, a lot of them are. Let me give you an example. Most popular vaccine in the world is the TTP vaccine diphtheria dentis and pertosis. It was used in this country around 198 That vaccine caused so many injuries that I, which was the manufacturer, was said to the Reagan administration we are now paying twenty dollars in downstream liabilities for every dollar that we're making in profits. And we are getting out of the business unless you give us permanent immunity from liability. So the vaccine companies then were given. And by the way, Reagan said at that time, why don't you just make the vaccine safe? And why is that? Because vaccines are inherently unsafe. They said unavoidably unsafe. You cannot make them safe.

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  36. About holy up Well, here's the problem. Yeah, here's the problem vaccine contained a virus called semi-virus. It's one of the most carcinogenic materials that is known to men. In fact, it's used now by scientists around the world to induce tumors and rats and guinea pigs in labs. But it was in that vaccine, 98 million people who got that vaccine and my generation got it. And now you've had this explosion of soft tissue cancers in our generation that kill many, many, many, many, many more people than polio ever did. So if you say to me that the, you know, the polio vaccine was effective against polio, I'm going to say yes. And if I say to you to me, did it kill more people than it did, cause more deaths than avert, I would say, I don't know because we don't have the data on that.

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  37. I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably averting more problems than they're causing. There's no vaccine that is safe and effective.

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  38. So, you have Motir in a vaccine is paying for the top people at NIH. Some of the top regulators is paying for their boats. It's paying for their mortgages. It's paying for their children's education. And you have to expect that in those kind of situations, the regulatory function would be subsumed beneath the mercantile ambitions of the agency itself and the individuals who stand to profit enormously from getting a drug to market. Those guys are paid by us, the taxpayer, to find problems with those drugs before they get to market. But if you know that drug is going to pay for your mortgage, you may overlook a little problem or even a very big one. And that's the problem.

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  39. At NIH who themselves have margin rights for those patents, so if you are a scientist who work at NIH, you work on a new drug, you then get margin rights and you're entitled to royalties of $150,000 a year forever from that, forever. Your children, your children's children, as long as that...

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  40. And actually benefit our salaries. Now, NIH has probably the worst system, which is that scientists who work for NIH, NIH itself, which used to be the premier gold standard scientific agency in the world, everybody looked at NIH that today it's just an incubator for pharmaceutical drugs. And that is that gravity of economic self-interest. Because if NIH itself collects royalties, they have margin rights for the patents on all the drugs that they work on. So with the Moderna vaccine, which they promoted incessantly and aggressively, NIH owned 50% of that vaccine is making billions and billions of dollars on it. And there are at least four scientists that we know of and probably at least six.

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  41. It's very difficult to persuade a man of a fact if the existence of that fact will diminish his salary. And I think that's true for all of us. If they, you know, we find a way of reconciling ourselves, the things that the truths that actually and worldviews.

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  42. And I think probably that's why they go in there. But scientists are corruptible. And the way that I can tell you that is that I've brought over 500 losses and almost all of them involve scientific controversies. And there are scientists on both sides in everyone. When we sued Monsanto, on the Monsanto side, there was a Yale scientist, a Stanford scientist and a Harvard scientist. And on RSI, there was a Yale Stanford and Harvard scientist. And they were saying exactly the opposite things. In fact, there's a word for those kind of scientists who take money for their opinion, and the word is biostutes. And they are very, very common. And, you know, and I've been dealing with them my whole career, you know, I think it's Upton Sinclair who's at.

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  43. People who work at FDA are money is coming, their salaries are coming from pharma, half their salaries. So they know who their bosses are. And that means getting those drugs done, getting them out the door and approved as quickly as possible. It's called fast track approval and they pay 50% of FDA's budget. It goes about 45%. It actually goes to fast track approval.

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  44. Of course it is Through a solid regulatory regimen where drugs are actually tested, you know, I mean, the problem is not the capitalist system. The capitalist system, I have great admiration for the love for the capitalism is the greatest economic engine ever devised. But it has to be harnessed to a social purpose. Otherwise, it's going to lead us a trail of oligarchy, environmental destruction, and commoditizing poisoning and killing human beings. That's what it will do in the end. You need a regulatory structure That is not corrupted. Entanglements, financial entanglements with the industry. We've set this up the way that the system is set up today. Has created this system of regulatory capture on steroids. So almost 50% of FDA's budget comes from pharmaceutical companies.

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  45. It shows exactly what happened and they corrupted FDA. They knew that that oxygotin was addictive. They got FDA to tell doctors that it wasn't addictive. They pressured FDA to lie and they got their way. And so far they lie this year. They got a whole generation addictoxycodone and now, you know, when they got caught and they made it, we made it harder to get oxycodone and now all those addicted kids are going to fent no one dying. And this year it killed 106,000. That's twice as many people who were killed during the 20-year Vietnam War. But in one year, twice many American kids. And they knew it was going to happen. And they did it to make money. So I don't know why you call that other than saying that's a criminal enterprise.

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  46. Nobody ever goes to jail. So there's really no penalty that it all becomes part of the cost of doing business. And you know, you can see other businesses that if they're not, if they don't, if there's no penalty, if there's no real, I mean, look, these are the companies that gave us the opioid epidemic, right? So they knew what was going to happen. And you go and see, there's a documentary. I forget what the name of it is.

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  47. And they did it, they lied to the public. They said, this is a headache, medicine, an arthritis painkiller. But they didn't tell people that it also gave you heart attacks. And they knew, you know, we've found when we sued them, the memos from their bean counters saying we're going to kill this many people, but we're still going to make money. So they make those calculations and those calculations are made very, very regularly. And then when they caught, they pay a penalty and I think they paid about $7 billion for VIOCs, but then they went right back that same year that they paid that penalty. They went back into the same thing again with Gardasil and with a whole lot of other drugs. The way that the system is set up, the way that it's sold to doctors, the way that...

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  48. The problem could be fixed through regulation, you know, the problems, but. Pharmaceutical industry is. I mean, I don't want to say because this is going to seem extreme that a criminal enterprise. But if you look at the history, that is an applicable. Or characterization. For example, the four biggest vaccine makers. Senofi Merck, Pfizer, and Glaxone, four companies that make all of the seventy two vaccines that are now mandated for effectively mandated for American children. Collectively, those companies have paid thirty five billion dollars in criminal penalties and damages in the last decade. And I think since 2000, about 79 billion. So these are the most corrupt companies in the world. And the problem is that they're serial felons. They do this again and again and again. They killed people by falsifying science.

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  49. Scientific policy. No, I think he was a genuinely bad human being. and that there were many, many good people in that department over the years. Bernice Addy is a really good example. John Anthony Moore has many people whose careers he destroyed because they were trying to tell the truth. One after the other, the greatest scientists in the history of NIH were run out of that organization, out of that agency. But, you know, people listening to this probably and hearing me say that will think that I'm bitter or that I... I'm doctionnaire about him, but you know, you should really go and read my book. And it's hard to summarize a, you know, I tried to be really methodical, to not call names, to just say what happened

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  50. What we're doing is right. And not everybody kind of lives and examined life and is examining their motivations in the way that the world might experience. Their professions of goodness.

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