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  1. I don't think it was like that. You underestimate, or perhaps you don't, maybe you're playing devil's advocate, the level of anger and frustration there is out in the country where people in, wherever you want to describe it, provincial Britain, wherever people might patronise it.

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  2. I think politics has changed fundamentally in the time that I've been involved in it and the state of the country has gone down and down and down. And yeah, I do feel, looking back over my time in politics, that I was wrong to go along with that consensus. That was not being true to myself. It was not being true to the young lad who grew up in Wolfampton or the people that I represent in North Nottinghamshire. And I do have disdain for those people today who are part of this cozy club, the people who care more about the House of Commons tea room or how they're perceived at drinks, parties, or dinner parties or how journalists think of them. That's not the path I've chosen to take. I've chosen to take...

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  3. A little bit, yes, in the longer I've been in politics, the more, in a way I've come full circle and thought more through the eyes of the young Rob who was growing up in Wolverhampton, you know, his dad was a small businessman who drove a white van, mum was a secretary, through the eyes of the people I represent in a small town in North Nottinghamshire and a collection of villages and ex-mining communities. And I feel that a lot of the people in the old political parties and parts of the media and whatever you want to call it, the sort of establishment around them. They mock those people. They don't have those interests at heart. And I just want a political party, a government to care about them and their interests.

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  4. The point I was making is this it's not about whether you're rich or you're poor. It's a question of your mindset and the positions that reform are taking up are actively against the establishment and the consensus that's run this country. And when you take on those issues, it's tough. People come after you for doing that. They mock you. They ridicule you. They try and put you down. Reform is taking on the mainstream political opinions. And the people who back us are people who agree with us in that and want to enable us to succeed. And that is hard. That is anti-establishment. That is fighting a consensus that has run this country for a very long time. And I think run it into the ground.

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  5. Are worried about the state of the country. It's not built on these other people. Secondly, they're not buying anything by donating to us. These are actually quite brave people who are willing to stick their head above the parapet, donate to a party which is an insurgent anti-establishment party because they too are worried that the country that they love is slipping away. And they feel that whenever the next election comes, it's going to be one of those make or break elections where the country's really at a fork in the road. Does it continue? down the consensus route, which I would argue has led to people feeling so hard up, so much going wrong in the country, or does it have a radical departure and do something different? And I respect everyone who's willing to put their other power.

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  6. Well, two things I'd say in response. Firstly, to characterize reformers somehow in hock to the super rich misses the point of reform. Reform exists in the way it does today because it's got 300,000 members who are ordinary people across the country. And I would just say I have never seen a political party that is made up of such normal people as reform. The day after I came to, a couple of days after I came to reform, Nigel held a rally in my constituency. And the security guard there came up to us and said they'd seized 40 or 50 knives. And I was like, what does that mean? And it turned out, by that he meant they were standing knives and pen knives because there was a queue of tradesmen's vans going around the block of the Newark Showground because you'd got brickies and plumbers and chippies who were coming after a day's work in Sheffield and Doncaster and Lincoln to hear Nigel, to hear me, to hear reform. So it's built on working people, normal people who

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  7. Look, he's a reformed character. He supported Nigel. He has no formal role within the party. I do think it's a bit overblown, to be perfectly honest. And, you know, if you compare it to, say, should Keir Starmer have appointed Peter Mandelson, someone who'd been forced to resign multiple times from government and turned out to be the best friend of the world's notorious pedophile, as our ambassador to Washington, it kind of pales into insignificance.

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  8. People are allowed to have friends. George Cottrell made a mistake when he was pretty young. He's sorry about that. He's reformed his character. He's actually written a book helping the authorities to prevent other people from making the same mistakes again in the future.

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  9. It's not for you or me. Well, they are now looking into it, and he's cooperating with that, which is the right thing to do. And AFE's returned as Member of Parliament after the by-election, he'll continue to cooperate with them, and no doubt they'll opine on that at some stage in the future. The point about the by-election, if you're coming on to that, is that Nigel believes he's not done anything wrong. I think he's correct in that assumption. But the ultimate sanction is available to the parliamentary committee and so forth, is to hold a by-election. So Nigel has said, well, why should I sit here and have all of this thrown at me when there's so much more important that needs to be discussed here about the future of the country? Let's just cut to the chase, have the by-election now. I mean, if there's another one in the future, so be it, but that will look pretty far school. And trust the people, trust the people in Clacton who know basically what's gone on, they know the facts, they've read about in the papers. If you believe in the public, in democracy,

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  10. He didn't need to. Now, there's a second. You're making that argument, which is what Nigel's critics would say. But the point is that this was a personal gift. He was not obliged to declare that within the House of Conservation.

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  11. He's been incredibly consistent. I don't think you can make the argument convincingly that Nigel would somehow change his views, moderate his views, take up issues he didn't care about because there was money at stake. That's not the way he's lived. That's not the way he's lived his life.

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  12. Been broken, is it? It's up to the parliamentary authorities. Let me just make this point. I hear some people say or imply that somehow Nigel would change his views if the party was given some money, even if he was given some money as a gift. Haven't anybody stepped back and just thought, who Nigel Farage is? Nigel is the most consistent politician in British public life in my lifetime. He was making some of the arguments that he makes today, say about immigration, when I was a teenager.

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  13. Sure, all donations over the sort of de minimis limit that have been made to the Reform Party have been declared in accordance with the rules. And there has been no attempt to buy influence over Nigel or reform, certainly not over me. I do think crypto actually is an interesting opportunity for the UK. I wouldn't overstate it. I think it's an opportunity, not necessarily an utterly transformative one. It's right that the UK position itself

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  14. Your question, Nick, was No, let's take the donation. Can you take a donation or have a certain lifestyle, whatever it might be? And are those people, and can you give voice to working people? And I think they're two quite different things.

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  15. The serious point is this. I've heard you ask other politicians this, well, how who is the establishment? How can you claim to be anti-establishment if you, I don't know, went to a private school or if you've accepted some money from a wealthy individual and so on? I think that's looking at this the wrong way around. My view is that there's been a consensus in this country for most of my adult lifetime, which has been the way in which the country has been broadly governed by both the Conservative Party and the Labour Party. Mass migration, net zero, denigration of our history and our culture. And it is people who are willing to step outside of that and to range against those widely held views, often taking a significant personal cost for doing so, who are anti establishment, are proposing radical change. And it doesn't frankly matter where they came from, where they are now.

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  16. Well, firstly, we don't get all our money from these people. We've got the largest membership of any of the political parties. We've got almost a 300,000 members. Back to £15 million from Chris Carbon.

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  17. We spend £400 billion, or will do by the end of this Parliament on the welfare bill. Wait and see, but I think by the end of the summer we will have set out massive savings on welfare, which will be as big or bigger than any other political party, and will be a big statement about who we're in politics for, which is working people. And when we come to cut taxes, as we have already made some interventions, they'll be for working people. We're not in politics to help people who already got lots of assets, who are doing well in life. That's for the Tory party. The way I see it is somebody said to me this to me that the Tory party are for Belgravia, the Labour Party are for Benefit Street. I think that's an apt way of describing it. We're for the 80% in the middle.

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  18. Several billion pounds. We're not going to pay benefits to people who aren't British citizens. We're not going to continue with net zero subsidies, which amounts to tens of billions of pounds. I mean, Ed Miliband is saying he's going to spend £10 billion on carbon capture and storage on an experimental technology. And yet we're cutting money being spent on roads and practical things that affect people. And we have already set out tens of billions of pounds of welfare savings and we're going to set out more over the summer. That is going to amount to a lot of money.

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  19. We are a small state party in that we want to reduce taxes and we see the urgent necessity of reducing public spending because the country is basically going bankrupt now.

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  20. I don't think the gathering, the rich and the poor, the worst. Well, he's a product of the North, I'm a product of the Midlands in that sense. We both feel that policy, that government White Hall has let those people down in the country, but our solutions are very different. Is Andy Byrner going to radically reform the welfare state so that people who are choosing not to work are pushed into the workplace? No, I don't think he will do. Reform is a party for the people who are grafting, not grifting. Is he going to re-industrialize the country? Well, not if he sticks with Ed Miliband's crazy net zero policies.

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  21. I don't consider myself a thatcherite. I think that there's a huge amount to admire in Mrs. Thatcher. What she brought forward was that a policy prescriptions for the 70s and 80s, the situation is very different today. I think mistakes were made, by the way, there, which left a deep set of scars on much of the country, including places like where I grew up in the black country, where there was a huge loss of self-confidence when people lost their jobs and the industrial heritage that they'd been in that area.

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  22. more than any other political party, and we're not going to be for the rich. This is not a party of reheated Thatcherism. We're going to be a workers' party that is for those people who are in the middle and want to see real change to increase their living standards.

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  23. Absolutely. You know, look at the economy. We've already began to set out what I think is a very distinctive approach to the economy, which is one where we're going to put British workers first. The way I feel with the economy in the last 20, 30 years is that there's a group of people at the bottom of the spectrum, people on benefits, and there's a group at the top end, the super rich, the CEOs of big companies, well-paid public sector workers, who've actually not done too badly. The 80% of people in the middle, the workers, and those people who have worked their whole lives and are now retired, by and large, they haven't done well. Their living standards have gone down, their bills have gone through the roof, they feel that the system is not working in their favour. Reform has to exist for them. We've chosen a lane, we're not going to be a party of welfare, we're going to bring forward very substantial reforms to welfare, I think.

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  24. When it comes to foreign affairs, Nigel was criticized for being a one-man band. Now we have a group of people around him. We have a very strong team developing policy currently writing the manifestos. Should there be an early general election led by James Orr, a very distinguished academic. We have Danny Kruger preparing plans for how we would work with the civil service and the state, which feels very broken at the moment.

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  25. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I hear these people saying these things, and I do think it's a bit farcical. I mean, who has heard of the shadow Defence Secretary? Who has heard of half of the present cabinet? I bet if you polled people, they'd be able to name more reform politicians than present members of the cabinet. Who is leading on foreign policy for reform? Nigel Farage

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  26. Well, I think he was being humble when he said that. He's not wrong, is he? As an individual, having witnessed many prime ministers coming into office without any kind of plan, has a sense of what a responsibility it is to become Prime Minister and how you do need to prepare carefully. And we are, and we will be ready.

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  27. Vote reform gets Dharmer out, and that's exactly what happened. Does that mean that the same underlying challenges that face the country remain? Yes, absolutely. And we shall see what happens with Andy Burnham. My sense is that he will be a more human version of Keir Starmer because the country faces a series of immense challenges. The public finances are shot. You've got a very weak economy. People feel that their living standards are going nowhere, their energy bills are going through the roof. Immigration remains a major challenge. The potholes in the streets we could go on. I don't think Andy Burnham has a plan, has answers to these. I think the team around him is weak, as weak as the one around Keir Starmer, and I suspect he'll be found out quite quickly.

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  28. Without question because of what you guys think Nigel and Reform had not fought the battle that they did before I joined and subsequently there's no question about the Labour Party getting rid of Keir Starmer. I mean he went primarily because the results in those local elections were absolutely appalling in all

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  29. And sometimes, and there's not many people who do this, suddenly there's very, I don't think, I'm not sure if there is any precedent of somebody who stood for the leadership of their party, came second, and then chose to leave it. Sometimes you have to do something that is big and bold, a break with all of those relations because you think it's the right thing to do.

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  30. I had actually spoken to her. But that's, I mean, I suppose it cuts to really why are you in politics? And there are some people who, you know, and your viewers and this is probably wouldn't appreciate this, but who love the kind of atmosphere of the House of Commons. There are these tea rooms and there are bars and it's a club and a family, or at least that's how they perceive it. I've never really seen politics like that. I've had friends in politics and I enjoy the institution of the House of Commons, don't get me wrong. But there's a reason to be in politics, which is more than just to maintain friendships or to have a glass of wine or a pint of beer on the terrace of the House of Commons. You're ultimately sent to Parliament to represent your constituents and to do what you think, and people will disagree, and that's fine, to do what you think is right for them and for the country.

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  31. There are people like that. There are also people who with whom I continue to be friends within the Conservative Party, including members of Parliament

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  32. As I have, in a sense fallen out of love with your political party, there's always good, decent people within it, as there are within all political parties. It was a very difficult...

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  33. It does, yeah It wasn't quite like that. And you were expelled It was a big day. It honestly going to be a big day for myself, regardless of whether it was that day or a couple of days later. I'd thought about it very carefully, agonized about it, and had come to a firm conclusion just before Christmas. In fact, I met Nigel at his house a couple of days before Christmas. Although I guess one could always back out of things would essentially shake hands on it and made the decision. You know, I do hear people who talk about the small number of people who defect as if it's a sort of light thing to do or people use phrases like opportunistic or whatever, but I think that misses the point. There's a reason why so few people do this. It's actually a very difficult thing to do. You're making a big break with a lot of colleagues, friends, people who supported you over the years, particularly in your constituency where there are very, very good people. And even if you...

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  34. Well, actually, I specifically said that I don't believe that we should spend most of our time trying to police language. That, I think, is one of the things that people find deeply frustrating with politics. And I can't tell you the number of interviews that I've done over the years where most of the time has been discussing the term, the phrase that somebody or other has used. Do you agree with what this person or that person has said, rather than getting to the crux of the issue?

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  35. No, I don't disagree with him. I mean, we all choose our own language, of course, but I myself, as you've just said, have used that term. You use it advisedly. I think if you bandy around terms, they become devalued. But isn't this the problem just to broaden this conversation? Our view as a party, and Azia and I completely agree on this, that there has been a consensus, broadly speaking, in this country for most of my adult lifetime, of which mass migration has been a central part. that has been a failure, but it's more than that. It's actually been politicians putting the interests of others over the British people and whether you describe that as treachery or whatever, it's been a massive letdown to the British public who've been back at the queue.

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  36. Zia has very strong views about the failures of public policy, in particular what's happened on immigration. And he does use the word traitor, and I don't think it's completely without merit because he feels that a succession of politicians, conservative and Labour, took decisions, putting their own kind of respectability as politicians above the interests of the British public. And the consequence of that having been extremely serious.

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  37. Well, I would defend, as I just have, why I described Lord Herma in those terms. And I would defend Nigel in the fact that I can't think of instances where in his recent political career he said something which I think could fairly be described as racist. A lot of people bandied these terms around without much.

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  38. I understand you're making that one. I understand the point you're making, but I fundamentally disagree with that. I think irrespective of somebody's faith, if you do things which are totally antithetical to the national interest of the United Kingdom, if you effectively put the interests of another country, above those of our own country, then I think that is treachery. But of course he doesn't say, but forgive me.

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  39. Yeah, I think that is a word which is a strong word, not one that should be banded around casually. But I do stand behind that. I think that if you sell out the interests of your country, as I believe Lord Herma has done both in his career before going into politics and then in politics, for example, with the Chagos deal, I do think that the term traitor, although a strong worder, is the right word to describe.

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  40. Yeah, look, we're not policing tone, we're not trying to limit debate. We believe in free speech, of course we do. Look, you can use strong language that captures the feelings of the public. I think that's actually very important. You have to meet the public where they are on many of the issues that are facing the country at the moment. But you shouldn't be going around saying lies about people, and you certainly shouldn't be comparing them to Nazis, fascists. It's tricky. That language is in century and I think does put people at risk.

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  41. A number of different people. That's why I put it inside hatred and make reform MPs. Many MPs are subject to abuse. Some are subject to threats. But I do feel that reform are amongst others highly at risk because of the way in which some of our opponents like to characterize us, which it just goes far too far.

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  42. Well, I think let's be clear about what we're saying here. I do not believe in policing tone. You should choose your language with care in politics, don't get me wrong. But it frustrates me that sometimes interviews are spent debating whether somebody's chosen the right turn of phrase rather than getting to the crux of the actual issue, whether or not small boat migrants should be coming into the country. Instead, we're talking about whether or not a particular word was the right way of describing that or not. But without question, there is a line and sometimes people say outright lies, the Deputy Prime Minister, I think, compared Nigel Farage to Hitler Youth and said that he was a supporter of them back in the day completely untrue and highly in century. Comparing people to the Nazis generally is, I think, very unwise.

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  43. The big England, exactly. I hope this ages well, this program. You know, as I did the other day when the last match. But yeah, it does change things, and I'm very conscious of my children, my wife, their safety as well. And I just worry that ultimately it will put good people off going into politics. That's the biggest concern because, you know, people look at our present politics. Many people think that the caliber of MPs isn't what it used to be. I think every generation tends to say that about the present lot comparing them to previous ones. But I do know talented people who've chosen not to go into politics in part because of this concern about the abuse and the threats that you receive. And that's very sad for the country.

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  44. I mean, I've tended to adopt an attitude of not letting it change the way that I live my life. I think being a Member of Parliament by necessity should be something where you're very accessible. I'm going to go and watch the football and the pub in Nook later today.

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  45. Well, you can become quite inured to it after a while when you've been in politics for some time, but if you step back and think about it, it's quite tough for families in particular. You know, at the moment I have someone who is standing trial in Surrey for alleged death threat against me and my wife. There's a restraining order that's been passed by a court on another individual. Two instances actually came up in the last week where I'm about to give a witness statement to Manchester Police and to my local police force in Nottinghamshire. So there's quite a lot and I don't compare myself to someone like Nigel for whom there are literally hundreds of threats. I think the day we're recording this it's just been announced that somebody's been arrested suspicion of another death threat against him. So it does change life and my big worry is putting

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