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  1. I love it. But that one, if you go to bitcoinpark.com forward slash imagine if, just hit the request invitation. I'm very proud to offer complimentary tickets for our Bitcoin park members like yourself and others. And so that's like a small token of appreciation to increase the member benefit is just adding to it

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  2. It's going there, but they even pushed away, pushed to the side for so long, and now they're feeling the love a little bit. And then us Bitcoiners can be like, hey.

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  3. I am very interested in developing this level of relationships on the energy side, but especially on the nuclear side. I feel like these guys have just been like,

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  4. I will say it's similar to what we're building at the park. What we're building is to be durable for decades. And that's where we value the time, capital, and reputation. And so not this year for you, especially next year, but for this year can be more thankful for Kathy, Dr. Laffer, Senator Haggerty, and a bunch of other folks. Senator Blackburn, a bunch of other folks, especially on the energy side. I'm really, really interested. Like we have such deep relationships in Bitcoin right now, Preston.

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  5. And then, yeah, imagine if this is the first one, this is the summit of summits, September 19th and 20th. We rented out the Fisher Center for Performing Arts, which is walking distance from Bitcoin Park. It's this beautiful theater. We'll probably have like 300 to 500 people when it's all said and done. And this is like capital allocators, policymakers, entrepreneurs across the Bitcoin AI energy and freedom tech space. And I just want these to be like crazy natural collisions amongst these groups of people. It's going to be pretty gnarly in my opinion. So we'll see how it goes. I'm consciously optimistic.

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  6. Yeah. So I'm excited to see you in Nashville, September 17th and 18th at the custody and treasury summit. I would recommend just going to our meetup page, BitcoinPark.com, or we'll go to BitcoinPark.com forward slash custody-treasury. We'll probably put in the show notes as well. And then just go down and join the waitlist. We're going through that. That one, unfortunately, is going to be sold out here sooner than later, but we have a great lineup like you, Parker Lewis, Adam back. I'm just pulling off the top of my head. Sean Bill from Blockstream. Odell's going to be there and the list goes on. It's just I'm humbled that you guys are all coming. So thank you.

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  7. Means a lot for the community, the Bitcoin community, probably the investing community. We still have so much work to do. We're still so early in Bitcoin.

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  8. Yeah, and Preston, I want to just sell you this. I know there's some days where it's like, oh, man, and especially traveling and what you do. You do is phenomenal, man. Thank you and keep up the energy because it.

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  9. Who else is speaking, by the way, on NPC multi party custody? And are they speaking on this? And what should I pick up? I was like, oh, Rob Hamilton and Adam Back are doing XYZ on this. And what are the risk factors that, and then all of a sudden it's like, you know, that's why I wrote this piece, how conferences just suck. And they're just like a lot very vanilla. And look, I get them and there's a purpose for these type of things, but like curated experiences like these summits, in my opinion, and now having more information to be better prepared to go into there to maximize your deep knowledge as well as getting your connective tissue exponentially increased. That's what I care a lot about. And I think if someone gave me that resource ahead of time going into a hundred person summit, I'd be like, holy smokes, I'm like cooking with gasoline right now, meeting like catching up with Preston and catching up with this person on X, Y, or Z.

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  10. And we just distribute it on our regular Bitcoin park Twitter account. Well, we now have 18 episodes of Bitcoin brainstorm. We have all these meetups, workshops, and summits that we've produced and published. Now we're going to organize them around these summits that we've created. So we have the Energy and Mining Summit in January, most likely FOSS will be February, March is Bitcoin takeover in Austin, April is our grassroots Bitcoin, and the list keeps going to September, which is imagine if in the custody and treasury summit. October, we do global Bitcoin summit. And then there's a Bitcoin payment summit. There's Noster. The list goes on. Every single one of those, Preston, I'd like to produce a annual white paper that is a good primer for the audience to come and learn more. And you don't even need to read the whole paper. The paper is just published. And then you can use your own agent interface to query it and be like, hey, you know my style and my learning abilities. How best should I prepare? I want to go to the custody and treasury summit September 17th and 18th. What are five bullets I want to know about? Great.

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  11. I think at least my vision here, you're totally right. And you could actually use Claude probably in ChatGBT and all that other stuff. As long as we make it available, which I don't see any reason why we wouldn't. One of the areas I will say this, most people are, though, lazy, including myself. So they're not going to even want to maybe even do that interaction instead. They're going to want to go click and show me the clips, show me the highlight. And it's like the Instagram feed. But there's going to be a good percent that want to go choose your own adventure and go down that rabbit hole. I do think this allows us because we've done such a great job of curating a lot of conversations at the park, we're sitting on a treasure trove of just amazing content, similar to how you are as well.

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  12. I have unstoppable money that I'm accepting while I have my customer service department that I would have to pay like hundreds of thousands of dollars in a call center or whatever. And I'm able to just focus in on my craft that actually gives me the most energy. I enjoy it. Preston for our kids and where we are right now. I've never been more bullish in my entire life.

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  13. Of content And that's where I'm dumb and bad at like 99 out of 100 things. One thing I think I'm pretty good at is curation of signal. And this is like me, like Marty and I joke. It's like, and this is our time to shine, the thought boys or whatever it's called. But being able to curate all of that signal and then distill it into like clear bites of information such that you could be the policymaker. You could be the engineer. You could be the entrepreneur. And you're like, wait a minute. I just want to be an entrepreneur that makes these widgets. Oh, I can use Bitcoin plus this AI customer service widget. And now I'm a band of one that

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  14. Crazy, it is totally crazy. And just like the website, which is Bitcoinpark.com forward slash imagine if shout out to Jack on my team. He vibe coded that brilliant website together. And it looks so nice. All of that, and then think about it. We have speakers, the profile picks. All of that is just like, I think what you're using cursor AI for that one. And it's just so easy. And that's where Preston, the curation.

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  15. Even though you could still see me right now, you're not going to be able to see me in like half a year from now. But I will say, it's not like, oh, well, the AI tooling, still people are creative and thoughtful. And there's so much slop out there. And you're just like, dude, I know you're using AI. You're not like, I immediately do not read what you're saying. But then when, for example, I've always wanted to write more. I have this like series called This Is Dumb, but Hear Me Out. And I have all these topics that I want to write about. And now I can go to that backlog of notes and I can just start talking with the AI and just start getting my thoughts more crystallized. And now I write, and for me, it's somewhat therapeutic because it's just a great habit to develop. And I wouldn't be able to do it without AI. So I would say in terms of a suggestion, it's just you have to include it in your workflow.

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  16. Your workload because if I'm able to go, like you take one step forward and I'm able to take one point one step forward every single day, I'm going to be light years ahead of you.

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  17. Similar to AI, I would not say, oh, I just used it. It gave me an okay response, or I didn't really, and then I'm just going to go back to Googling and doing whatever. My first suggestion is commit. Don't pay an annual fee, but pay a monthly fee for whatever AI service. I have no recommendations on one or the other, but just use one and just start using it as your default Google search. It's so funny when people ask me questions now or even like a question about something else. I'm like, did you ask whatever service? You're like, oh no. And then there's the answer right then and there. So that's first and foremost. Second is you'll be, and you do this really well is anything that's repetitive in terms of your workflows that you're looking to do and especially that takes away your energy should be most likely automated through an AI agentic like type of either a delegated purposefully or through some sort of AI agent full stop like you got to get that off

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  18. It's kind of like you have to use it in terms of your workflow. Whatever workflow you have, you need to augment it, experiment with AI. So for example, I use voice to text pretty much now for everything I do. Majority of what I do on the keyboard now is voice to text because it's just voice is like five to ten times more efficient than it is to text. However, the lift to actually get myself into that habit was very high, but I forced myself and now I'm running.

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  19. Okay. Well, do we go the picks and shovels route and go into the infrastructure side, or do we go straight to the Treasury side and to the entrepreneur side? Do we go straight into the asset side and so on? And the type of high net worth individuals, family offices, institutional investors, and these folks that Want to learn more and It's so funny. They're like bringing a physical notebook and being like, okay, Preston, you said this about this. Like now I want to dig into what you meant by this because I really want to learn more about this. That's why I take a lot of pride and responsibility, not only in the content curation, but in the people curation speakers as well as the attendees to maximize the time for all of us to be there.

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  20. I always say one thing when I kick it off, which is I take a lot of pride and responsibility in making this the best Bitcoin and Freedom Tech experience, you'll have all year. And so I want to make sure you're here at the best place. But the capital allocators are really interesting because now they're like, okay, this is interesting. I cannot deny that Bitcoin is like this unbelievable investment. Administration seems like they're supporting it. There's more air coverage in terms of supportive legislation. Okay. Now let's, how do we allocate towards this space?

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  21. And I think I'll share Georgia think is doing a good job of that, especially what they did with core scientific incentivizing them there. There was a reason why we were in Dalton, Georgia yesterday for the proto announcement. Corps has a number of facilities all over. I don't know what the reason was, but it seemed like Georgia Power, the Georgia government, the lieutenant government or lieutenant governor, the state senator, the council people, they were all lined up. And so Another thing, and we're talking about the policy side, and there's the capital allocator side. This is really interesting to me as well. So we're probably, you know, so imagine if you need to request an invitation because I want to make sure, like I always say even at our smallest meetups to our largest experiences that we host.

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  22. And you got to tune in and be a part of this because that's what where we have really deep and meaningful connections and conversations.

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  23. And what I want to do similar to the Bitcoin side, where we kind of made Nashville where Bitcoiners, like in the US, as well as globally kind of come and work, learn, collaborate, and build. Well, every year in September for Imagine If I want to bring all three of those industry leaders and doers, you're not going to be able to probably make it every year, but at least in Nashville, Tennessee, every September. Imagine if this happening.

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  24. Well, and that's the thing, and I am very biased to Tennessee because that's where I live in Nashville. And I'm, you know, the governor's team and all these, we have an unfair advantage with the TVA. Oak Rid We need to leverage this unfair advantage Especially on the SMRs, the small module reactors. And how do we accelerate the state did a really good job of creating this like $70 million fund to kickstart investment in the state around nuclear companies?

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  25. We're tracking to have all of those folks in attendance too. So I could see a conversation really, and that's why I titled this Imagine If. And I want people and it's dreamers and doers. You know, you got a Jack Dorsey, for example. He's dreaming of we need to decentralize Bitcoin mining and really compete at the rig level. And then he's got an amazing team of doers that just execute on that mission. And so, I want to bring both of those groups together. And I want us just to dream much bigger and what those possibilities are and then implement the world that we want to see.

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  26. Oh, that's interesting. Of course, they're going to want to know who the audience is, but they can glean into what's happening. And so at this one, we have like 65 companies, over 200 folks registered already for Imagine If we have like companies like XAI coming with most like the boring company, like those type of companies. And then imagine a block stream, anchor watch, a BDK foundation are also going to be in attendance. Energy companies like TVA. Shout out to them. They are going to have a pretty significant presence and probably a participation as well. And then there's other energy providers, like where it gets really fun, especially on the Tennessee side. Preston is on the nuclear. And so you got like Kairos energy, Orano, like.

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  27. Makes it really cool because now you know a lot of the policy makers and a lot they now know about these Bitcoiners and when I'm like oh Adam back or Preston Pish or oh they're coming okay great yeah yeah that's awesome tell them I said hello and we're gonna come and like we'll just be in attendance it's okay and we just want to be there and support and learn from the broader community And the other second point I like when they ask, what's the topic? And it's not like normally other ones would ask who's coming. What's the audience side and so on? And they're asking what's the topic.

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  28. Together. And then on top of that, I just knew there's Kathy and Dr. Laffer every time I get them together. Magic just happens between them. It's simply amazing. And so the ARC team, we have a weekly meeting with the team just to riff on a number of things related to Bitcoin. And I'm going to do this. And I would love for you guys to partner with me. I'll do all the work. Similar to the create and curate. You guys produce and distribute. And they're like, auto, yes, let's go. And Kathy's been kind. She's coming. And Dr. Laffer's in. He's coming. Adam Bax coming. Odell and all those guys are coming. I definitely want to ego death. Would love all you guys. And you guys are just crushing it. So I just want to give you guys a shout out.

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  29. Yeah, so it's September 19th and 20th, and something I've been dreaming about for a long time. So I've wanted to do a summit of summits because I, like, and Kathy is the one that kind of planted this in my head. She's like, Rod, there's a convergence happening right now between Bitcoin, AI, energy, and all these industries. And they're all converging and colliding right now. And it's going to be fascinating to see what happens. And I'm like, yeah, you know what? We need to like bring that conversation to light. And it would be very tough to do it even like our park summits are very focused on Bitcoin and Freedom Tech and they're like 100, 150 people. This one I really want to bring a lot of the industry leaders across Bitcoin, AI, energy, and freedom tech.

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  30. Learn from us. Yeah. And then develop relationships directly. And that's what one of our core values at the park with the team is like no gatekeepers. Like we are not gatekeepers here. So we want to authentically create connective tissue amongst Our core, which is our member, our Bitcoin Park member community, and then our general Bitcoin Park community as well. But no, Dr. Laffer is unbelievable. Like a little bit of the reason why I wanted to do Imagine F, to be honest with you. So imagine if

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  31. And they're in like dad jeans and new balances to like, and it's just whether it's policymakers and they're great, but like it's like the doctor laughers. And it was like the Kathy's and it's like these other really amazing people in their own respective industries. Want to

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  32. College, right? Yeah, exactly. And so they stayed very close. And all the way, and I'm pretty sure he's on the board of ARC. They're very involved and have a great relationship. And honestly, like, he's just amazing. He's in Nashville. His office is right up the street. His team comes to the park. I mean, it's, I pinch myself because I'm like, what timeline am I in right now? We got like all these people rolling through the park.

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  33. So he was the former economic advisor for the Reagan administration. He was also the author of the Laffer Curve in economic history. And he's also Kathy's mentor, Kathy Woods mentor.

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  34. You get the chance to meet Dr. Laffer, I would cancel everything you got and just make it happen. I love his energy. I love his curiosity. I love his directness. He's a big brain.

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  35. I was like, oh man, they do the crypto thing and so on. I'm really focused on Bitcoin. I don't know if it's going to jive. She's like, Rod, this is a big, we're called Bitcoin Brainstorm. You create and curate the show. Produce and distribute it, and I want to be there I'm like, all right. I thought you'd just be there by one episode or whatever. We just recorded our 18th episode and we've been doing it for two years now. Just had Paolo from Tether on, which was awesome with Dr. Laffer. And yeah, it's just been a blast. So I do think locally produced, globally distributed high signal Bitcoin and Freedom Tech news and information. Is going to be a huge need and differentiator, and that's what we're going to focus on.

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  36. And so Kathy Wood, super kind. We've been doing that Bitcoin brainstorm that you've been on a couple times. Her team and my team now with Rob are working on research together. So one of our first papers we're going to introduce is called Killing Bitcoin. Easier said than done. Because I want to bring to light about an inch of like, we need to be more adversarial in our conversations around Bitcoin and just be more vigilant. And so how cool is it like Arc Invest is going to publish this along with Bitcoin Park? And she's just been another double tangent, but she's just been so amazing.

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  37. There's something there, but it takes a lot of work to continuously organize a community. And rally the troops around meetups, workshops, and summits. And I do think it needs to be like a core focus. Like my time capital and reputation is all in on Bitcoin Park. So it's super honored, even like the Parker and the Austin community would just even think of me and now hiring two amazing people, Andrew Davis and Jack Lesser, both leading Park Austin and Park Nashville. And then Rob Warren, who heads up our research and education, I mentioned that custody white paper. He's the one authoring it. And by the way, just a quick tangent, like going to your point, I do think there just needs to be more resources that are signal versus noise

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  38. And just texted a few friends and then a few friends. And then for the first meeting, just to let everyone know what I think the vision here is, but it really needs to be community driven. We had like 14 of the best Bitcoiners that I would just be like, should we do a summit right now? This would be amazing.

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  39. The mayor, Austin, Texas, now head of business development at staff, right? He just like focused on building Zapright. And he asked me, like, hey, we really, like the Austin community is amazing. And by the way, the Austin community is amazing. The density, and I don't like to say this because Parker and I have this like frenemy competition between Austin and Nashville, but the density of developers, engineers, and entrepreneurs in Austin, Preston, is unbelievable. Like straight up, unbelievable. I went, I have been basically going there a minimum once a month, but like beginning when we started it in February 1, I was going there weekly, just doing a day trip.

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  40. And gives me so much hope for what is to come that I'm like, you know what? I'll create another hundred summits to bring people together because the in real life conversations are 100x better than any of the keyboard commando conversations that are happening online.

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  41. So they will just destroy their reputation, not destroy, but like devalue the currency of reputation in order to increase capital. And they'll waste their time to increase capital as well. So missing time from their family and so on and so on. And I think you're doing an unbelievable job of putting your reputation in the appropriate places, especially bridging this gap, as well as your time investing it appropriately and going to, like I'm so thankful you're coming to Custody and Treasury Summit. I'm so like going to these other places in Riga, Latvia of all places to all these other places, Preston, you're in like El Salvador, you're in XYZ. And yeah, it's probably for ego death for a reason, but I know you care about it so much amongst a lot of other Bitcoiners. And so there is a lot of chirping, especially online and like a lot of these other things. But going back to the arc, the payments, just seeing that gives me so much energy.

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  42. You're going, okay, so there's three currencies, right, in my opinion there's time, capital, and reputation. I think everyone, or not everyone, there's a lot of people that overvalue capital for the sake of time and reputation.

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  43. See, this is where what's that meme? It's like I'm trying to get away, but they pull me back in, Justin. Your role in this is Going to be front and center because I mean, not to boost your ego, but I truly believe this. You're so well respected within the Bitcoin community and well deserved. You know, being invited to Riga, to the Haltek Honey Badger, to all the dev stuff, like you're the man. And then also on the institutional side, you have a great relationship with like the Senator Haggerty's of the world to all these other folks that they respect your opinion. So I feel like there's a small group of people that are in this like middle area that are able to help bridge the gap.

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  44. De risk yourself and your career risk to have multiple parties other than Coinbase to be custody your Bitcoin. I do think attestation reports, proof of reserves, all of that is going to come to light because it's just going to be a competitive advantage and competition will lead us into this clarity while on the other side we should be chirping about protecting the properties that make Bitcoin amazing. That I think is the fundamental common denominator to like we do not cut corners. We need to be able to custody our Bitcoin at any single point in time. And that's where it's going to be really interesting to me because with more and more treasury companies announcing more and more purchases, I'm waiting for one of our autist friends to go out and be like, okay, cool. There's 19. whatever circulating million bitcoin and you all you guys are adding up i'm adding up all your guys' acquisition of bitcoin right now and we're at like 23 million bitcoin so what gives

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  45. I think you nailed it, Preston, which is similar to the ETF process. It's like now we want to be in this game and we have our own security protocols. We have all these different protocols that we have built our institutions. We need to continue to conform to. Now, with that said, I do think to your point over time, similar to the example I gave with the lightning torch, I feel like we're at the lightning torch level of institutional custody. We're going to look back and be like, I cannot believe we're all custody with Coinbase because I think the incentives are there. Have multi party custodians, to have better institutional custodians.

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  46. Both sides of the argument, right? And I can totally understand just being worn down from just application, conversations. Being ridiculed and then be like, wait, what? We're the bad guys now. We just want to get a spot ATF Gary Gunzler. That's all we want to do. Not a, what were the other ones that were introduced that were just totally asinine before the Spot ETF? It was like some other stuff that was even like a...

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  47. We were talking about at the beginning of the show. Go ahead. Sorry, Arc Invest, ArcB, Hurra ETF. And so you see, that's why I hold.

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  48. Couldn't agree more. I remember in 2017, in January 2018, it was like two more weeks and the Winkle Voss are going to get their ETF approved and it's going to be like, Tomorrow, and I'm like, holy smokes, really? This is gonna be awesome. Like, and then next thing you know, we go through this crazy, like, choppy. Five years and no line of sight to an ETF being approved. But to your point, with Arc, with the BlackRock ETF, with all these ETFs, one was like, all right, this is the templ

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  49. And right now, though, the unfortunate truth is institutional custody is just with Coinbase right now. There's not like a really big conversation, so I'm trying to level it up and just showcase all of the other solutions out there such that. And I think, and I got to give kudos to Fidelity, I believe they're custodying their own Bitcoin. Yeah.

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  50. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so it's going to run the gamma from the institutional side as well as down to the individual side. Because I think when you speak to the institutional side, almost every single individual and their mom is like, okay, well, what about me? And if they can learn it on the individual side, they'll be better equipped to talk about it in their boardrooms and in their other conversations.

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