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  1. Did you know I didn't even think I persevered, but I tried to enjoy my life wherever I am every day. I do. I ran every day. And like I told you, why do you run so, Roger? I said, to help me suffer these fools. And I played a game of chess every day almost in my life in there. And I read two books a week. And I talk with people, storytellers, guys would come in and tell us another story, Roger. Give us a poem. Tell us one you never told us before. And so it was just nice. A lot of them have original boys. And they picked their country music and it was all right.

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  2. Completely, completely in the guards. It was just like come here, Reeves, and I woke up to him and get the fuck out of my face. He sticks his chin out like for me to break his jaw. Why what in the world, man? I love people and it's just.

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  3. And the inmates, like I speak Spanish, and I walked into the Spanish TV room and it would send you a no. You can't come in here. And I walked across to the black. Hey, get out of here. White boy. It was just like, what? Man, I like all you people, you know? And so I walked down to the white people and said, Show us your paperwork. You can't come in here until you show your paperwork. We don't let snitches and homosexuals and all this sort of stuff in here. So they have, so it's just like, man, I don't want to be in here.

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  4. Everyone I went to seemed like the further east. I went to Oklahoma and it was nicer, but all of them on the west coast, there was hatred there. And they got really stupid people hired. Just incredibly.

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  5. I dug in there, and Mari had slipped me $200 into prison, and I had in my shoe and I lost my shoes in that mud. Anyway, I got out of there and got to Holland. Really heck of a story I did that.

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  6. And then I heard blam, bam, bam, bam, blam behind me, and I looked and that fool woman was in a big old car, and she was knocking down the parking meters behind me. She was trying to run over me, and I ran behind a car on the And she tore the fender off of her car, trying and yellin', yeah, yeah, yappin' a terrible evil looking face at me screaming at me and the siren's going off in the prison. And there was a fence there, a wall, and I jumped up on it to jump over, and it had glass embedded, and I cut my hands and my arms all up getting over that, and I hit the ground on the other side, and it was like, it was that mucked muck where some farmer had dug it.

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  7. Oh, I would bloody yes. And they had taken all the wire off above the Sally port where they could join the two walls together. And I saw that when I came up. Was half of Like a dome sticking out of that brick building where there's a guard there with a gun and he'd kill you. I mean, he was made, he was surely trained to kill you. And we had some bad people in that place. So I lay up one floor above it, and I saw a garden his wife come with a double umbrella and it was just pouring down the rain. There I am without a shirt on bloody. And she had a little boy with him under that double umbrella. And I knew him. And when he come, and she started back from the sallyport, I hit the top of that guard tower. Bam with both feet. And I jumped, I guess, at three more floors. I jumped there was a pile of sand, like a cone where they were digging it there, and I hit that in my feet bared up to the knees, but I didn't fall. And I ran straight towards her so he couldn't shoot me. And then I went around some bushes and went downhill.

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  8. So there was a little recess there, and there was guard towers every hundred feet or so. I mean, they were shooting kill you. So I got behind that and climbed up holding to the bricks on one hand and the scaffolding on the other and went to the roof. I lost my shirt and most of my clothes going through the window. I got all the skin off of me. I thought I was going to die. And I was trying to go sideways like this. And finally, I got a grip. And the bars let me through and took all the skin off of me. So I got up on that roof, and I have asthma, and I just lay there trying to catch my breath. Didn't bring Manhal

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  9. Was there not going to extradite me back to the United States where I still had all these charges and 25-year special parole? I was cleaning the Lawyer's visiting room, and on it was Bars that looked like piano notes are this way to make it pretty, but there was a little bit, so I got a rope from a guy where they made boats in there. I had 20 minutes. So I went in there and I wrapped it around and I put a broom handle in it that was cut off and wrapped it around until the pulled the bars together on that side. And then I pulled them together on the other side. But that only put me inside the prison yard where the soccer equipment was kept. putting new windows on one side of the prison and they had to scalpelled up to the fourth floor.

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  10. Yeah, they ran me down, hit me in the back. I still got a dead spot in my back where the policeman hit me with a shotgun. Brought me back. Murray was there. He was saying, Your husband is crazy. That was spectacular, but I escaped from Lubeck, Maximum Security Prison, and I cut out of there and got out of that was a miraculous escape. That was where.

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  11. Just jumped out. I jumped out from 31 feet on top of that car, and it exploded in the street. The windshield went over three or four cars. It looked like snow going up. And I looked like Donald Duck with the thing. And hand cussing, I got out.

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  12. Like miraculous as was when I was in the courtroom in Spain. I think I was on the third floor of real high and I ran across a courtroom, handcuffed, kicked a window out, and I looked down and it was above the palm trees. I thought they might be a power line or something I could grab on as I went down. There was nothing. And there was a car parked station wagon on the...

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  13. Well, let me just tell you, it had a little bit more to it. I learned to fly with the idea of being a missionary aviation fellowship pilot. Fly the missionaries in and out of the jungle. Well, I went 11 days through that jungle. The rest of them went on down the road and went to prison. I said, I'll crawl on my belly six months in here or year, eating snakes before I'm going down the road. So I went in there and I was 11 days in the jungle, and I finally came to his place. And it had an airplanes. I kept asking Indian, Dantis Daviones. I wanted to steal an airplane and get out of there. And when I came to the place, I asked, what is this place, lovely place? It looked like Honolulu widow in World War II. Was a runway there? She said, you don't know. This is Loma Linda, headquarters for Missionary Aviation Fellowship for the Amazon. And they flew me out.

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  14. No fire, the plane left the plane there, and the two guys that were in the back one of them broke his thumb, and it was with the barrels. And they had to put a hose, tie gas hoses together to shimmy down to get out.

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  15. Yeah, the grass is three or four feet high. So it was really good after a few times. So then just before it stopped, I said, Al, take your feet off the brakes. He said, I don't have my feet on the brakes. Well, I knew I had broken through the crust. And I put full power on, but it didn't. That old big plane just came on down and it just did a head as it came to a stop. It did a headstand. 90 degrees to the ground. And the engines held it up and the nose and all just crushed in right on us. We fell between the two seats to keep from getting killed. And when it comes to a stop, all that fuel was torn out on those hot engines. And there's an escape hatchet at the top. I just stepped out, took my suitcase with me.

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  16. Guaviera River. And they were 20 feet above the water. They looked like a pasture. It was just grass. And I made several runs to tear the grass down, and it looked like it felt hard. That old DC three weighs 30,000 pounds. And I put it down on the fifth run. I said, all right, we're going to land now.

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  17. It was huge pasture, and it was rougher than it looked, and the wings just flapped. And I come to a stop and jumped out and pulled those tabs out and threw them on the ground so I could get my gear up. And I understand that during the nineteen eighty World Series baseball game that it was says American DC three has just been shot down by American jets by Columbian jets. You know, it's the first plane shot down on Reagan's New War on drugs. But he's up. He's up and away, ladies and gentlemen. We'll keep you posted. So I took off again, and I went into a thunderstorm, and they came close to the mountains. So I spiraled up, and every time I'd come out that jet was there boom, boom, boom. And I dove back into that storm. Boom, boom, boom, in there. And at 20,000 feet, I started icing up. So I went out one last time and he was right there waiting. He had me on radar. So I went back in and I kicked it over and put it into a spin and went straight down to 2,000 feet and come out under it. And I was flying along the...

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  18. I really didn't. Nobody had shot before. So I kept flying out. I kept getting slower and slower, and they kept slowing down, down, down, and the black smoke rolling. And then they started shooting up under me. Boom, boom, boom, boom with them 20 millimeter counters. And the tracer was just going up. They looked like they're curving up from me. And I woo and I push the nose over so they couldn't get under me. And later on, I heard they thought I tried to ram them. So one of them went for fuel, and I kept on going, and the one just tore the left wing tip up with a 50 caliber. And then he come back again and shot the tail up. He's warning me. And I tell the feller in there, says, you know, if you bring me enough water, I believe I can fly this thing. My mouth got quite dry. So I went on in a, I landed on a big pasture.

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  19. They do a dive over, and it came back down the strip in front of that airplane, and they just tear it up with 50-caliber machine guns. They just showing out. So I'd run for the airplane, I just give that guy $80,000 and he ran for the truck and all the rest of them ran for the truck. I should have ran with my money. But I didn't. I ran for the airplane. And the co-pilot got in. His name was Al. He got in with me, and two fellas got in the back. We had drums of fuel in there to refuel when we got down to the gorillas. So we took off And I couldn't get the gear up because I'd taken off in such a hurry these pins in the struts of a DCI and with big flags on them. And you have to take them up so that the plant plane won't come up. So these jets swarmed on me and they tried to get me to go. They kept telling me which way to go.

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  20. I sure can All right, I was I went down for Lodum, Luda marijuana, and we got to the place and we got there too early, and the gorillas were still. Scream, you got to get out of here, got to get out of here. And so we went back to the place where we staged from and refueled. I had a beautiful DC-3, carry three tons. So while I was waiting, I I ate something for lunch and I went around behind the house. We refueled a plane up. I had to wait till late in the afternoon. They wanted me to come just at dark so the military planes couldn't see me on their strip. So, I'm leaning in the hammock asleep, and I hear this terrible roar, and I look right up through the trees at the ass end of two military jets going straight up.

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  21. We got in that taxi and they propped me up with sheets and blankets and pillows in the back seat and give me these great big white pain pills. And I was quite content. Then I was shot down in Columbia also.

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  22. Covered us up, and the road was rough, and every time we'd hit a dirt road, that corn would cover me up. They'd scratch my face out again. And when I came to the highway, We went into a house and they got me some clothes. Mine was messed up. And a white basin, and they must have brought 20 jugs of water different times. I kept washing and washing my foot till all the blood and the crud got off of me and put on those clothes. And somebody went to, they said, you can't go north. The road's blocked. They looking for the pilot. So you got to go south. So they found a taxi in Mazatlon. And it was a rather new taxi, and the fellow would take me to Guadalajara, which was, I don't know, seven, eight hours south.

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  23. I'm covered in diesel. So the man left and he was going all day. And then about dark, he showed up about 15 or 20 horses and mules showed up in the yard, walking fast. And the doctor got out. He said, I'm Dr. Benjamin So-So with Red Cross. And he worked on my foot and he worked on Pedro. He gave us a shot of morphine and tetanus shots. And he said you got to get to hospital. He said, Pedro will die if he don't get to hospital. He said, they're looking for American pilots been shot down and they think he's dead. There was a lot of blood in that airplane. I don't know how far we rode, but we rode miles, and we'd come to a road, and there was a big truck, and it was loaded with corn in the ear. And they duck holes in that corn and put us in it.

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  24. Donkeys all over the place. Anyway, he knew that one from the village. And so we rode seven miles. Two of us on a donkey with no bridle, no saddle, nothing. And we came to a little man flying a little horse and a little ox. Both of them spotted. And the ox was, the yoke was across their back this way, and he was plowing with a little plow monk's stumps. It was like one of these people clearing a little piece of land. And he had a little house there. And so we went into his house and his wife and his daughter, they put like cloth over my wounds and on Pedro's. Terror was terrible. And they poured diesel oil on it to keep the flies off.

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  25. I shot the top of my toenail off. Shot a chop across my head and my kneecap. So I was just It was very painful later on, but that time it was just hot. There's a bullet still in my foot from it, a piece of a bullet, a good size slug. So we went on up the mountain through the cactus. Just going, I want to go down. No, no, they are federalists that go in the easy way. This goes, this young fellow. And we came to an old donkey. She must have been 30 years old, long, and way back, long hair on her. Charlotte, Charlotti. And he petted the donkey and we jumped on. And we rode for an actual.

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  26. Case I ever need One of those times didn't want it in the airplane. It was just handy. You just lay in there. So I took and popped a few caps out of them and they ran into the rocks. So we took off running, and then I looked, and Pedro's foot nearly shot off. Ed shot him on one side, the ankle, and it just blown out the other side. And it wasn't even hardly bleeding. The shock of it. So I took my t-shirt off and gripped it and tied it best I could.

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  27. I was in a stall anyway, and I didn't realize it. And I guess it wouldn't unless you trained for it. But when you're in a stall, the elevator is kind of flappy. And I didn't realize at the time I thought they had shot the elevator cable in too. So I thought, oh, God. So I just reached over and switched it off, switched it, pull the mixture, pulled everything. And in the river, there was rocks about as big as this table. And they were like the turtle back all the way up until there was a waterfall. It was quite a pretty place. And I crashed straight on to it. I thought if I get those rocks. And when I did the first time I hit, the wings came off. And then it bounced. And the next time the nose came out and came under the plane. And I'm sitting there. I must have been knocked unconscious because Pedro's shaking me. Come on, Roger, come on, Roger. So I stepped out into the water. And here comes these four federalists still shooting at us. And I'm bullied the two hit the airplane. And I kept a nine millimeter browning high power taped to the top of the radio.

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  28. So it just stopped in slow motion. And one bullet hit the strut right by my head. Parts of that bullet just went all over me. I just looked like I'd been peppered with lead. And the gasoline was just pouring in. I mean, just pouring in where they'd shot the wing up above. And windshield's gone. I mean, I can just like a hailstorm. So I was.

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  29. Yeah. But I didn't know I was hit. I mean, it was just adrenaline, the gasoline just pouring in. The world turned yellow. I must have gone into shock.

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  30. Taking the plane and me and put me in prison, the whole thing. But I even though I had papers. So I just shoved it to the firewall and there wasn't enough room to take off on that strip. Half of it was behind me, or some of it was behind me. And so just at the end, I'm just like, I think that thing stalls at about 50 miles an hour, just turning 50 and I just pulled it right up and put the flaps on. And as I pulled off the ground, they opened upon both sides of me with machine guns. And they riddled that airplane. I mean, the windshield came out. I got hit three times.

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  31. Yeah, some ways off the side, they'd shot just a warning get out, stop. We're going to rob you, whatever it is. That's what they do.

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  32. It still ain't dawned on me and Pedro's yelling, police see him. Police see him, Roger. Police see you. and I shoved it the throttle to the firewall. And I only had some.

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  33. All right, a little nine hundred foot strip there at Picolinia, poor village with starving donkeys. That's where I'd give them seventeen thousand dollars for load, and I'd go over on the highway and load. Well, on day thirteen I did a load every day for thirteen days. They had a bunch of marijuana pretty good piled up, and I was going load a day. And on day 13, I had that little warning sign going off in my stomach. Uh-oh, uh-oh, don't do it. I asked this Joaquin. Oh, we had the Federalis paid off no worry we were. So I spent the night in a hammock and walked down to the airplane just as it get in daylight, and ten or twelve men walked with me and Pedro got in I brushed my teeth into a little stream was about foot deep little river coming through there and got in the airplane and I fired her up bam blah blah blah and bam I thought a tire blew out I looked over C

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  34. I think some of both of it. And I think they aren't going to keep you here forever. Know you're gonna get out into the prison or they're gonna let you go or something if you sign that paper, you ain't going nowhere, and I want to go home. I got shot down a few weeks before that. I got shot. I'm out of the sky. 80 bullets through the plane, killed a feller on the ground, shot the leg nearly off the man in the flame

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  35. Insides into formaldehyde, and there was a little space. It wasn't even a half inch high under the door. And I lay on that filthy floor, my cheek, and put my lips right up under that door and was sucking that fresh air, and I went to sleep after some time. And I know where Walt Disney gets his ideas. I saw white pink pigs with wings on them, all kinds of stuff flying around. So, when I woke up, I didn't know which was real and which was the nightmare. It took me a minute to figure out where I was and what was going on

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  36. Think about it. I ain't going to, I guess if I'd have known he was going to kill me, I wouldn't have done it. But I wasn't about to. You get hurt bad enough, you pass out. So I didn't pass out, so I was all right. So then the last thing they did was They brought a dead man in there, and he was frozen, and he was wrapped in newspaper with little strips about a half inch wide, just like a mummy, and he was frozen, and he hung him on the wall with a meat hook. You neck, son of a bitch, you next. And so he's sitting there like this as he starts to follow out, which is pretty quick. It looks like he's crying. And it looks like he's peeing, and the papers start unraveling on him, and the formaldehyde puddles on the floor. Who a smell that rotten.

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  37. About two. I beaten ain't that bad. So, anyhow, he's coming into the good part. So then they come and they take me out, I'm buck naked, and they bend me over and they have things to pull you like change, click, click, click, and they bend me over, and they put butter on my bum. They commenced to put hot chili pepper up there And that stuff was bad, I mean it was red hot. And that was awful.

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  38. Wanted to sign me to sign a confession that I was a drug smoker. And they put the papers under your nose. This is all over fuel sign. Well, I knew if you signed, you got six years. I wasn't going to sign. I wasn't going to sign.

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  39. And that was a first treatment. And then they started beating me. And they beat me with blackjack and rubber hose until I was black and blue and yellow from the bottom of my feet to my head.

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  40. So they said, I was a drug smoker. So after about three days, they put me back into the back. And it was a torture place. And they put me in a little cell. I guess it wasn't hard. It wasn't six feet. It must have been about five feet square and about 12 feet high. And it was June, end of June, and it was hot. I mean hot. And they left me in there for, I guess, a few days. You didn't know they... Every once in a while they come drag me out, and first off, they put my head underwater, and it had selts or in it or some kind, and I took one whiff of that three or four of them couldn't hold me down. So then I learned it just before you have to breathe tear loose like that and they'll let you up.

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  41. I sure can, and I'm smiling but was nothing to smile if I can tell you. I was in a poo, and a gentleman came over and shook hands with me and put handcuffs on me. And I thought, what in the world? That was one of the nice hotels. They put me in a jail cell, and I sat there in all the trunks and thieves and stuff kept coming in and they had a bucket near overrun, and I said 18 people in a room about twelve foot square. Oh, it was hot, and I thought somebody's got to come get me. This ain't real. I hadn't done anything. It's like, it was a pilot coming to see me up in Hermacea and he stopped and he made a mistake and went to the International Run Winstead of where he was supposed to go. And he had my... Phony name in his pocket. So they got me.

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  42. Yes, I did too. I really, really did. Mari waited for me all those years and the children raised them without me, pistoned me in prisons all over the world. It's unbelievable. Nothing's worth that kind of money

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  43. Same. He was using Stuart S's to fly the marijuana out of Manhattan Beach, and I was on the fire department in Redondo Beach ten miles away. Flying it up, sending it back, somebody was sending it back. He might have been sending it back. But he didn't have near the excitement that I did. I was shot down twice. I escaped from five different prisons Was tortured almost to death in a Mexican prison. So he didn't have all that fun that I had

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  44. I didn't know George Young, but it was a wonderful movie. Absolutely, it captured it. Yes, it did. That's the way it should be

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  45. Oh, yes. It was a story that needs to be told. It needs to be told in the correct way, not like we're trying to bash a certain angle.

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  46. Yes, they just try to sensationalize on little things that people remember, and it's just not true. It was just like a business deal and good people and good airplanes and good flying. It was like a good watch that was made. It just clicked and it just went on. And they missed all that. They tried to make it sound like it's something very ugly.

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  47. And I see all these people telling me about Barry. I never met him. They tell him all about him. I think that's just ridiculous. And for one thing, for his character coming out of warehouses and all that, that was just like ugly. And then down in Columbia, putting a gun to his head, going to take his sunglasses, and then he put $25,000 million worth of cocaine on his plane. And then they're going to bet $100. They don't have enough room to take off. That's just insane. I mean, just the whole thing. And then he's talking to the DE agents when he's coming up. You don't know what. Frequently they own it. He's got five planes and they all split when the DEA comes out. These are just somebody just fantasy. But those are like.

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  48. They didn't know way, they just had no idea. And Barry was such a nice person, such a really nice gentleman person. They talked to you.

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  49. He may be elaborate. Barry Seal, and it just didn't even, it was nothing. Whoever wrote it had no idea who Barry Seal was. Sit in a rocking chair and just try to think of what some baby bashing drug dealer doing. And just like God, just you just don't have any idea of the spirit of the man.

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  50. the younger Ochoa brother, I understand Fabio, which wasn't paid for the hit. I don't know that, but that's what I've heard, and it probably sounds about right. He's done in Jessup, Georgia, doing a long, long time. I think he's about to get out. He's been in 30 years or whatever.

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