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Rosena Allin-Khan

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first: 2020-03-13
most recent: 2020-03-13
sittings or episodes: 1
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“No, no. You know, like if I don't win, I'll be fine. And then the job will be, well, where can I be most helpful? And if that's on the back benches, that's where it'll be. And if it's on the front bench, that's where it'll be.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Lack of self confidence. No, do you know what? I spent a lot of my life feeling as though I wasn't good enough and as though there was no place for me and as though nobody would”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that would be for whomever to decide, but I sort of don't go I don't go through in my life thinking I want this, I want that. I go through my life thinking, where can I help? And that's why I threw my hat in the ring to be Deputy Leader, because I thought we need someone with more grit, energy and determination per square inch body mass than anyone else. Oh, who do I know? That's me. That's what we need to rebuild our party.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Came to fight for people to have a voice, I took it because if you can see from my background, I've been the one that was told my whole life I couldn't do something and I couldn't achieve something because of who I was and how much money I had and the color of my skin and how much money we didn't have in the bank. And I just thought, well, I'm not going to, well, I've never accepted no for an answer for me in my life. I've never accepted the impossible. So why don't I just put myself forward and fight for others from a place of real credibility? Because people are always saying they want politicians from real life with real life experience. And I think that's what I bring to Parliament. And that's what I bring to the Deputy Leadership Race. Yes, I've only been an MP for three and a half years, but I'm incredibly professional. I've worked in our NHS for 15 years. I've worked around the world. I have a master's in public health. I've done some serious things that we could really learn from in the party.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here's the thing, I haven't packed it in, have I? Still The thing I think is that it's really important, and just to sort of be a bit serious again for a minute, especially after the love actually video, just to be serious for a moment, all the work I've done internationally showed me that we don't value life globally in the same way as we do in the UK, and then working in our NHS on the front line at real sort of in the thick of it, as it were. Under a Tory government and a Labour government, I realised that we don't value life the same way equally in the UK now. We just don't. And so for me, when an opportunity came to stand, it's in my community where I'm born and raised and where I'm raising my family. I wouldn't have been an MP anywhere else. And I did ask the question, if I do this, does this mean I can't be a doctor anymore? And the answer was no, you can be. So I wouldn't have done it if I couldn't have been a doctor anymore.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he did. He did. But I won tooting. And here I am, alive another day. And they're running in the deputy leadership race. And you're talking to me about it, so it must have done all right. Oh, there we are.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he copied it a few weeks later. And obviously his team naturally denied that he'd copied me. But instead of, and this is the reason I wasn't annoyed, just a lot of faux outrage, the reason I wasn't really that annoyed is because I said he's copied my video don't watch his share mine. And it got me another extra million views. I got two million views just by saying... That toe rag is next five video in retaliation. Watch mine and share mine instead. Don't watch his. No, I”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thank you on cue. So what he did, he obviously stole my idea and he admitted to me in person when I saw him afterwards that he did. But instead of”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, but what I did, instead of playing Carol's, is I put a radio on that was playing the absolute drivel, that is when Boris Johnson was talking about how he likes to make buses. Yeah, so it had him mumbling around. I like to create buses. So I had that in the background instead of Carol singing. And yeah, then I held up these placards and he changed his poster. So that was another boat for me. But what happened was Boris Johnson nicked it, but instead of directing...”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, well, they can happily go to my Twitter and have a look as well. But what it was is I did this video where I knocked on a Tory door and held up the placards as to all the reasons they should vote for me in the general election and why they should vote Labour. And then the Tory at the door switched his poster in his window to Labour. And it was like the scene, was it?”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I wasn't. I had faux outrage. But the reason I wasn't annoyed is actually. Yeah, the love actually. So I got a million views, which was great because we only did it as a bit of a laugh to try and show that one can campaign in a creative way. Just tell us.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not going to do that. Nice try. Nice try. And then she said, oh, Go on, you have 25 seconds left. So I thought, let's liven this up a little bit. So, yeah, I belted it out, and it went down well.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just tell us what Okay, so what happened was the question we were asked was the question we were asked was if you had to replace the national anthem, what would it be? And there's two or three people before me all said the red flag. I thought, well, that's a bit same old, same old, doesn't it? I can't say the same thing, even though everyone's clapping. So I said, I thought it should be shares if I could turn back time. And then I said, I won't sing it. I will say the words. And it's if I could turn back time, if I could find a way, I would take back all the things that have hurt you and you'd stay with the Labour Party. So I said that we would sing that song to our voters to get them to come back to us. I just can't quite remember.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not the first time I've heard that one. Look, you know, fundamentally, name recognition for me was really low when I started because obviously I came in on a by-election. I wasn't given a big shadow cabinet job by Jeremy because I didn't come in in 2015 and not as many people knew who I was in comparison to people who have been going around to different constituencies as part of their shadow cabinet role, who've had a prominent job for four years. So for me, I've had to work my absolute socks off to get the recognition that I have now. Can I suggest that you...”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Party HQ wanted to charge £5,000, then they upped it to £6,000 because they wanted to add VAT. Then we refused, and it's back to £5,000 again. Who's got that? Who's got that unless you have the big unions behind you? This sort of thing makes it prohibitive for people like me. I had to crowdfund and ask online for people to help me get the data.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know, I mean who's interested I mean you know whose interest was it to charge us all £5,000 each to get data when we got onto the ballot that the party has anyway HQ”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there hasn't been a robust enough acknowledgement by some candidates of exactly what went wrong. But I think also there has been an issue with how our messages have been sort of put out because there have been candidates who in the hustings have said, I don't believe we got anything wrong, and then others of us saying we got many things wrong. But because the hustings haven't been advertised, they're washed by a handful of the same people every week and people have been struggling to get tickets. And if like me, you're someone who's come in from the outside, a new MP, what people are describing as a breath of fresh air, the wild card, I want people to be watching this and seeing what I'm saying. And unfortunately, this process has been run in rather a frustrating way, particularly because.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of anti Semitism. Yes, I mean, or in fact one person did try and raise that, and then he was shouted down and said he didn't really have a right to say it because he's white. But that's it. That's the only intervention that we've had in weeks and weeks and weeks of a contest. But it does worry.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With respect, I've been saying that. I really have been. I've been saying that we've got many things wrong. I've often listed what they are. First of all, we sat on the fence about Brexit and got splinters up our bottom and lost trust from both Leave and Remain voters. We had a manifesto, which I believe people liked what was in it, but they didn't trust us to deliver it. Our messaging was all wrong and we had door slams in our face because people believed that we were a party full of anti-Semites. So I've made that very clear. And unfortunately, the hustings that we have, which obviously arranged by the Labour Party, don't allow for debates. Someone asks the question and we all get our one minute to respond, but there's no opportunity to debate. And if there were, I would be saying things like, well, why is the shadow secretary of state for equalities who is on this stage? What did she do about the...”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I've proven it. I've proven it. I've worked with a Palestinian for 11 years. I've not just carried a flag once at a March once. I've worked with them. I have critique with them. I have campaigned for them. And I received horrific anti-Semitic abuse, which I called out by going to the Israeli embassy to discuss improving the lives of Palestinians with the Israelis. So I've seen just how toxic it can be, but I have proudly fought for children to have their parents with them while they're undergoing chemotherapy and while they're dying. At the same time as vocally calling out anti-Semitism, because it is the right thing to do.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then I invite them to do a quick Google search when they criticize me online, and they will see the fact that I've been on the Today program, the fact that I have had multiple op-eds where I've been campaigning for the Palestinian plight of children who are dying alone because their parents aren't being allowed permits by the Israeli government to be with them as they take their last breath. I have worked alongside the Palestinians for 11 years now. I have campaigned for their rights. I am also perfectly able to stand up and fight anti-Semitism because I think you have to be able to call out issues of foreign policy and human rights without getting embroiled in a discussion about religion. In other words, just to be clear.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For over a decade now, and I've done that as a doctor, I've done that as a politician, but whenever I'm there, I do it with my doctor hat on. And I have worked with religious groups, you know, every religious group you can think of, people who don't believe in God at all. And I fundamentally believe in equality and I believe in doing the right thing and calling out discrimination when it's there. It's intriguing.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, it's a huge part of my upbringing. I've been to Auschwitz three times. I lost family in the Holocaust. My great uncle died defending Poland. My auntie, sorry, my grandma was pregnant with my uncle in the sewers in Warsaw. It's a lived part of my history, but that has got nothing to do with the fact that I've been vocal on our handling of anti-Semitism. I think, well, actually, I firmly believe that where my values come from with regards to standing up against any form of discrimination, against anyone, are A from my mixed heritage from understanding the way many people think and feel and respecting that that's based on a product of their own personal life experiences, but also all the work that I've done internationally. I've been an international humanitarian aid worker.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it was independent, if there was a process and there was a process and they found that he should be expelled just as with anybody who had done anything else and that is not a process I'm going to interfere with.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I, as Deputy Leader candidate, have been calling for a fully independent complaints process that takes seriously every form of discrimination, whether it be sexual harassment, anti-Semitism, racism, Islamophobia, even misogyny, needs to be taken extremely seriously. I believe that needs to be dealt with now in an independent way because I don't feel we got it right with anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. We got it wrong. Then let's move on to anti-Semitism.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it was right that they suspended him. I found his comments deeply offensive. And if you had replaced some of what he'd said with Jews or Hindus, they would also rightly, equally, be uproar.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but making excuses about definitions doesn't make it okay to say that Muslims don't want to integrate. Fundamentally, you can say if some communities find it harder to integrate, what can we do to help them? You can't make blanket statements that essentially are offensive to people of that religion. Because they're a Muslims from all over the world and they're Jews from all over the world. And as there are Buddhists, as there are everything. And we need to be so careful, particularly at the time of the rising of the far right, we have to be so careful with our language. And people who hold very prominent office need to be careful of what they say.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They are dangerous because you just sort of said yourself that the perception by some is different to that that I know to be true being a Muslim myself. And so when people who are so respected, who have done so much to champion equality in their life make comments that make life far more difficult for communities, I believe they're dangerous because people would say, I think, if you're...”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think his comments for me were very disappointing because if we are tackling anti-Semitism, if we are tackling racism and discrimination, we need to be dealing with Islamophobia in the same way. And I think whether we want to get caught up on the nuances of is it racism, is it discrimination? Fundamentally, it's not okay to make the comments that he made. They're extremely dangerous, divisive comments.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and that's not the case. It's very, very inclusive. It's very, very live and let live. And that's what I needed to hear. And that's what I needed to understand. When there was no agenda from anyone, just the pure teachings of it, it was as simple as if your mom's a good person, that's all she needs to do to go to heaven. She doesn't need to believe this or that or the other. Because I used to say that my mum's a really great person, but she doesn't believe this. And then I used to go to other people and say, my dad believes this, she doesn't believe that. And it was as simple as that. My brother and I both chose to be Muslim because we were taught when we asked questions we were told that the only thing that mattered was being a good person. And so when you're little and you love everybody in your life, you want to know that everyone's going to be looked after and go to heaven. So that was how I chose it.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“priests, rabbis, imams. I don't know if you remember like Speaker's Corner used to be a place where you could go and have all these discussions. I used to go there sometimes on a Sunday. Yeah, so I used to go on a Sunday as a child and ask people. I used to say, lots of people that I love believe different things.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was as simple as this, really, and it's nice to talk about it because I've never been asked this in any interview I've ever had, actually. So for me, I knew really early on in life that society and people in society wanted to put me in a box. They didn't know what to make of a seven-year-old who was mixed race and mixed religion. And so I felt the call to have to work out who I was quite early on because it wasn't, it just didn't seem to be pleasing enough to people to say, well, I'm half Pakistani, half Polish, live in tooting, you know, that wasn't enough for people. They wanted to sort of know more. So that kind of made me start asking questions. And I went to a church of England school my whole life. I'm really, really grateful to the education that I had. I didn't really know many Muslims, but it's as basic as this. I started to ask questions and I asked questions of...”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yeah, Pakistani, yes. And so for me, I had a very interesting life because I grew up at the time where people would point and stare. It wasn't the done thing. And now, you know, we live in a beautifully mixed society. But when I was growing up, my brother and I were the only mixed race children at school. My mum experienced a lot of abuse walking around with us on the street because she's very blonde and looks very Polish. And my brother and I didn't suffered a lot of abuse. But what she did teach us is that class is all about how you hold yourself, not how much money you have. She also taught us about the importance of hope, which is why we always went and voted Labour when there was a general election. And she always said that no matter how hard it is for us, we have to understand that it's harder for others, which is where that real continued drive to do medicine came from, I think, that perseverance never to stop because”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, no. She raised from all our community and our friends, she raised, I think at the time it was like 8,000 to 10,000. I mean, it was everybody we knew. Yeah, and then wrote a letter saying she'd be willing to sell absolutely everything she had if it made a difference. Well, no wonder I read.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it wasn't so much that, it was more that under the NHS reform plan of 2000, there was an understanding and an acceptance that children from a wide variety of backgrounds should be able to access medical school. And I mean, it's still just as competitive as everyone else, but you can put in for the entrance exam, you can give it a real shot, and it's based on merit. And so what happened is I did my entrance exam for Cambridge Medical School, got through that, and got through to the final round interview stage, and then I got a letter in the post saying, you need to have access to £30,000 so that you don't have to get a job because we have Saturday lectures here and things and you have to pay for college fees and things like that, even though I didn't have to pay for tuition fees. And so my mum phoned around everyone that we knew. They lent her $50 or $100.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fantastic, and I did lots of scientific research, placements, and I had a really good time. But fundamentally, I was not about to give up on my dream of becoming a doctor. And I kept on going. I just never gave up not for a second. And then thanks to changes brought about by Labour government, I was able to have access to medical school in a way I hadn't been able to before. And I got into Cambridge age 24 to read medicine.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, it was really hard because obviously growing up, the mixed race daughter of a single mum, when you are poor and you don't have enough to eat and you have one heater in the house that you keep moving around from room to room and, you know, you understand insecurity on a daily basis and you have to go out to work really young to help supplement the household income. All of these things, when you go to school and say, I want to become a doctor, they take one look at you and go, really, really? Because back then it just was not something you did from a state school. It wasn't something you did from a background like mine. So I was kind of encouraged to manage my expectations a little bit, but I was never ever one to believe in the word impossible. And my mum and I, we walked around all these different resit colleges. I reset my A-levels and went and did a degree in medical biochemistry, which was a great degree if you want to be a biochemist and be a scientist, which is”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, lots of stress at home. But it was a single swim kind of life for me. And I had to swim. And you swim partly because”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was in bits, I'll be honest. I remember standing outside school with this bit of paper feeling absolutely hopeless. I just turned 18. I felt absolutely hopeless. And I remember phoning my mum from a telephone box. I mean, I don't know why I was so surprised because, well, I don't think I was really surprised because I didn't go to some of the exams as part of the issue. That doesn't help, but that was obviously, I mean, it was a very difficult time. But I remember phoning my mom saying.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I started my degree at 24. I was really good at school, but I had a very difficult home life and failed my A-levels. I did really well on my GCSEs, but then failed my A-levels. It was before it became modular. So it was all on the day. So if things were tough at the time, you know, people tended not to do very well. And so I did really, really poorly. I mean, I fundamentally failed them. And I had to have thought.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I was going for it. It was all I ever wanted to do. And so my path to doing it was not straightforward. But that's all I ever wanted to do, yeah.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I was told when I was three that my grandma was blind, so naturally I was going to become a doctor and fix her. But that thought never left even after she long passed away. And so for me, the natural move was to just take interest in anything. I remember my ninth birthday present. My mum got me for my ninth birthday a hardback copy of the reader's digest medical manual. Gosh, that feels like a long time ago now. But I was so interested in it.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah, it was only ever to be a doctor. I had no plans to enter politics. It was a completely left field life move, to be honest. Yeah, I mean, I wanted to be a doctor from the age of three. No doctors. Yeah, age of three. Quite incredible now that I look back on it. There was nothing else I wanted to do other than I did dabble when I was seven with being an astronaut because I think that film Space Camp had come out around about then and it was quite cool. But then, no, it was always medicine, really.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, 25% of cases in Italy I heard from a colleague today that 25% of cases in Italy are health workers, which is a real worry. I mean, I haven't seen the real evidence on that, but that's what I've just heard sort of in my doctor colleague groups. So I think there is a real concern. But for that, we need to make sure that staff have the protective equipment that they need and I've heard from the front line that they don't have that at the moment. Some of the PPE, which is the protective clothing they have, is ill-fitting. They can't get the right sizes in some places. They haven't arrived in a timely manner. So we need to make sure that we're getting the sort of nuts and bolts of this right for our health staff as well as the public.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think when you work for the NHS, it's a vocation, it's not a job, you're always thinking about what you could be doing. But actually at this point, I think of my duty as Member of Parliament to really sort of support people in the community who are understandably very worried and confused. So I haven't yet donned my scrubs and gone back and done a shift, partly because obviously I'm running in the Deputy Leadership campaign, which is keeping me super busy. But there is always a little tug that says, shall I go in and do a shift now? Do they need me now? And of course, I will always be prepared to lend a hand wherever I'm needed.”
2020-03-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Rosena Allin-Khan One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source