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Roxane Gay

lines on the record: 72
first: 2024-08-08
most recent: 2024-08-08
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Because, like you said, you just don't ever want to take that chance. Kids get into things. It's not their fault. But, you know, there's no safe space.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're safe. And, you know, it's interesting that you bring up children. The only reason we own a gun is because we do not have children. We had children, it would simply be a non starter.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Shooting is actually a lot of fun. And also, I like to be great at things. I'm a perfectionist, I'm an overachiever. And so like, you know, when you first pick up a gun, most of the time you're shooting is quite terrible. You have to deal with the recoil and figure out like aim and all kinds of things. And so for me, I took it as a challenge. I was like, oh, that was lousy. I can do better. But it also, there's something very satisfying about it, especially within the context of a gun range where everything is controlled. And if you are a responsible gun user,”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I decided to buy a gun. But in doing so, I started to think, huh, you know, who are gun rights actually for? Because most of our Second Amendment rhetoric is actually for white men. It excludes women and it excludes black people and black women. And so that was the beginning of the inquiry”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I've been interested in not really the word, but gun violence in this country is out of control. And the topic has interested me for a long time. And my middle brother, Joel, was an avid gun enthusiast, which was always kind of weird to my family because we were not a gun family. And so we all wondered where did he pick this up from. And over the years, he always encouraged us to buy guns and to sort of understand the hobby and the interest. And we never did. But during COVID, I've always gotten weird threats because of my work. But during COVID, those threats started to become very specific, very detailed, and they started to include my wife. And that for me was a bridge too far. And so I thought I want to be able to do more than just call 911. Or throw a baseball bat at someone.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, if it's, so what if it's a honeymoon Like, she deserves it. This is so different. And so unexpected. I really just didn't think the Democrats had it in them. So I would love to engage her on Gaza. And what is the actual plan for finding a two-state solution? What is the actual plan for bringing an end to this just seemingly unending? Loss of life in Gaza. And I would also love to hear her talk more about criminal justice. And what she sees as the way forward.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct. She is looking ahead, and even Biden wasn't really articulating policy. Biden was just saying, I can do the job. And it's great to finally see a presidential candidate starting to have actual policy discussions. We deserve that. And we deserve to consider those policies and critique those policies and ask questions. And so I'm excited to see her doing that. I hope that she continues to engage in those kinds of discussions along the campaign trail. And I hope that voters also engage her. Like it's supposed to be participatory.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's what they have going for them. Unfortunately, they don't have messaging going for them in terms of vision for the country because everything they do is backwards looking, apocalyptic.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it just makes them look, it made Trump look kind of not well. I mean, he already looked not well, but it just made him look even nuttier to say that she just turned black when there's just so much history of her identifying as both black and South Asian. And over the past two years, really, as they always do, Republicans have taken control of messaging and now DEI is a euphemism for the N-word. And it's a great way for them to sort of just let the racism fly. And so the biggest asset that the Republicans have going for them right now is that they can count on a certain segment of the population feeling like a sense of relief that they can be racist, that they can admit that they don't want immigrants in this country, that they can air their grievances and those grievances will be heard, even if they will not be addressed by policy. They're really counting on the lesser natures of people, which is sad, but...”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Greatest problem is that they have to control themselves. And they don't know how to attack her on anything but her race and her gender. They are just completely wrong-footed on this. And it's interesting because they've now had like a week and a half or so to adjust and they still can't seem to figure out how to proceed because they have no ideas. They have no policies that aren't abhorrent to the majority of Americans. So they want to attack her as not really black. Like she's an aka. Let's start there. Okay. And so, frankly”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That don't apply to the other candidate. And yet she's doing so with a reasonable sense of decency. She's not just letting her freak flag fly. Unfettered, but she is saying, Yes, I'm going to fight fire with fire. Yes, I am ready for center stage. And presidential candidate is a vastly different role from vice president, whereas vice president, you don't want to draw attention away from the president. Don't want to take up too many headlines. And so people misunderstand the position. She wasn't supposed to shine as vice president. She was supposed to do her job, and that's exactly what she did. And now her job is to shine. And that's exactly what she's doing.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it was partly the presidential run, but the reality is that year that a lot of people had flawed presidential runs, and perhaps she wasn't ready then, but she's certainly ready now. I think that once she was elected vice president, I mean, the reality is that the vice president job is not the most glamorous or exciting job, but you are the second most powerful person in the world. You are ready to step up should something, God forbid, happen to the president. And so I believe that once she was given that responsibility, she prepared herself to be ready for her moment, particularly because of Biden's advanced age. And, you know, 81 is older, but it's not the end of the line by any stretch of the imagination. So she quietly bided her time. And she has nothing to lose at this point. Trump is capable of anything he can say and do whatever without consequence. And she realizes that. So why behold herself to rule?”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they were energized by her. And they are 78 and 75. They thought she was wonderful. They thought she was exciting. It seems like everyone is just interested in something different. It's not only about age.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know it's interesting that you bring up Kamala Harris's age because 59 is relatively young, but it isn't someone in their 40s or even early 50s. But given what we've been... Dealing with it's an improvement. And I certainly believe that people of any age have lots of things to contribute. But when we decide that only people of a certain very advanced age can lead this country, There's a problem with that. It overlooks a great many younger politicians who are ready, willing, and able to step up. And everyone underestimated Vice President Harris. I think everyone underestimated her. She has done phenomenally. My parents were who live in Florida were not excited to vote about for Biden, my father in particular. Was going to, I think, leave that blank because he certainly wasn't going to vote for Trump. But they watched Harris in Atlanta.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it really puts the onus on the weird person to justify why they're weird. Whereas when you called people deplorable, they were like, I'm human. I matter. I still think that deplorable was an excellent and accurate term. But we just seems to be more effective. Also, nobody wants to be the weird kid. Right, that's true. That's true. I did a little bit. But anyway, you've been critical also of the so-called gerontocracy, so have I. It's not just Joe.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Kamala and her team seem willing to take the gloves off, to ignore when they go low, we go high and just sort of go where they go. Yeah, it's very attack-oriented, which I think is effective. It's very attack-oriented, and it's about time because they attack and they attack and they attack and the Democrats are like, let's hold hands and reach across the aisle. No, they don't care about us. Let's not. When they did weirded, people were saying deplorables didn't work for Hillary. What is weird work? I think because weird... Feels less judgmental. I mean, it is a judgment, but deplorables made a lot of people feel like they were unworthy of existence. And weird is just like, huh?”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really surprised by the messaging of weird and how effective it is. They simply cannot figure out a response to it. It has really caught them off guard. And I love that. It's also accurate. They are weird, partly they're dangerous and racist homophobic transphobic, xenophobic, etc. But also they are weird. They have weird ideas. They have weird affects. They make weird decisions. I love that.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not really engage with her. I want to talk about those differences and how that should be because one of the things is feeling unified is a good thing, right? That it doesn't feel chaotic, it doesn't feel argumentative, doesn't feel Democrats in disarray, that kind of thing, and now it feels like they're in array. I'd love you to get your thoughts on the messaging that's happening. Right now, this Donald Trump is weird, and it seems to be working and better than democracy is at stake, even though democracy might be at stake, but weird is a seems to be a better way to get to it.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Democrats are on the same page. It doesn't mean we agree about everything, and it also doesn't mean that we are uncritically supporting Harris, which I've seen a lot of rhetoric about. Like, she's not my friend. I'm not trying to be her friend. I'm considering her as a presidential candidate. And anyone who wants to be president. You know, these are not people who are unwilling to have blood on their hands. And so I recognize that. And instead of assuming that we are uncritically supporting Harris, instead I think that everyone recognizes we have time to really consider this candidate, to support this candidate, and to also make demands of the candidate and hopefully push her further left. And so for me, Unison is just like, we all agree that she is the best choice and we can also do more with that choice than just sit here quietly and.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An actual choice. So it's encouraging, but it's also frustrating to see just what they're capable of. Then you mean the quickness too. The quickness. It happened so quickly. Now, I believe Biden probably made the decision well before it was announced because the rollout was so flawless and everyone got on board so quickly. So you know heads were rolling back stage, so to speak, where people were like, if we do this, you better come out enthusiastically. And we saw that. And I was glad to see that. So talk about the idea of unified messaging. What do you think is benefective beyond the fun stuff, right? Beyond the brat and the dancing and things like, which are very delightful but doesn't necessarily translate into votes or might or could. But what do you think when you think about unified messaging? You know, you want to make clear that the majority of”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi, Roxanne. Thanks for being on. Hi, Kara. Thanks for having me on. So before we get to your essay about America's gun problem, let's go over some news things, because Roxanne has been a busy news month. It has been. We're taping on July 31st. Biden is out. Harris is in. But you wrote in your newsletter The Audacity. For once, the Democrats have consistent, forceful, unified messaging so now we know it is possible if you want to do it badly enough. Do you think that's been the problem unified messaging? Talk a little bit about what's happening now from your perspective. There's a lot happening, but for once, we're seeing that when the Democrats have the political will, they are perfectly capable of making change and making radical change and doing so quickly, efficiently, and in unison, which I did not previously think them capable of. And it just lets us know that they have chosen not to do this before. They chose not to primary Biden and give Democrats.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Bad feminist in which Or, wrong way to be a feminist, which feminists don't like to question. For example, is she a bad feminist for liking rap music with massage? Lyrics and pink dresses, or in the case of her latest essay, Are You A Bad Feminist if you're a black woman, a staunch Democrat, and also a gun owner? As we all know, US gun politics are tricky and controversial, but Roxanne is very good at teasing out the nuances between all the little boxes we inhabit and probably shouldn't. As you'll find, Roxanne is spicy, she's tough, she's funny, and she's daring, and she doesn't see herself that way. I'm excited to talk to her about guns, the political movement we are in right now, and because she's not only a strong player, but also a keen observer of the media business, we'll talk about where that's going. It should be interesting.”
2024-08-08 · On with Kara Swisher · Roxane Gay on Guns, Kamala & Media · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT