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  1. But Twitter, Twitter is more my thing. I'm always thinking in little sentences of things that I can describe. Whereas I think Instagram is better for visual humor, obviously. And so a lot of cartoonists are on Instagram and doing a lot of really funny stuff. My husband built me this little thing that turns my tweets into images that get posted on Instagram. Really?

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  2. I saw it done so many times. Is it power play? Well, yeah, because if this call you're getting is more important than this important meeting you're in, then you're a pretty important person. No, a lot of people said you'll get fired if you do something like that. And I just want to like remind everyone, I'm not telling people to do these things. I hate when people do a lot of these things.

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  3. That was my favorite thing to do at Google. If I didn't think I was really needed in a meeting, I would just not show up. And then if they pinged me, like, you need to be here, then I'd show up.

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  4. Than whatever you say. I think this is true. I think this is, I think I do a lot better because I'm gay. I do. Really? I do. Yeah. I can send notes that just say no. Also, because you're Kara's Swisher. No, no, no, but I just do that. Like today, I just got something out of line. Yes, I am. I am Kara Swisher. But I literally just sent a note because I want them to do what I want them to do, and they wanted to endlessly discuss it. And I was like, no.

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  5. That's the non threatening version of that. But the way that I end the piece is basically just wear a mustache If men see you as a man, then whatever you say, it's fine.

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  6. So go ahead, you know, if somebody steals your idea in a meeting, you say, yeah, I just said that. Instead, say thank you for articulating that so clearly for me.

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  7. She never married. I was just like, she wrote 50 books. Come on. You know? Yeah. It was interesting. think about like when you do more and more non-threatening ones because this is really the topic dujour right yeah the idea of sexual harassment and

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  8. Yeah Yeah, there was some obituary recent, not recently, but a few years ago about a female author, and it just spent all this time talking about how she was single and she never married. I was just like.

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  9. Which of these things is a problem? It was an insult, though. Like, she was educated and likes shoes. And it was like. Okay, like a lot of people would really like to go to Harvard Business School. Most of them wear shoes. Most of them wear shoes. But like nice shoes. It was bizarre. I think I wrote the right.

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  10. But maybe you can't even be opportunistic. Opportunities are bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you remember a couple years ago when there was a profile of Cheryl Sandberg, it's like she went to Harvard. She's got children and has shoes. And I was like, oh my god.

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  11. Which is like, okay, so you can be opportunistic, but not transparently, but maybe you can't even be opportunistic. Opportunities are bad. As a woman, I don't want any opportunities.

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  12. Abrasive And we want to In their performance reviews. Well, somebody just called Kristen Gildebrand transparently opportunistic.

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  13. Good. The reason I asked you about swearing in the workplace is. You know, you'll be in a meeting with a group of people and the guys can sort of seemingly swear at will, but God forbid, you know, like you just said, God forbid one of the women in the room says pigs fucking. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Aggressive communicator. In fact, in fact, in performance reviews, you'll see that women will more often get a very aggressive and aggressive communication style. Zero men who work for me who have an aggressive communication style in their performance reviews.

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  14. Really, really good. Yeah, you know, instead of get this to me by Monday, you say, Do you think you could get this to me by Monday? You know, and emails instead of saying, you know, can I take a look at this? Lots of exclamation points, smiley faces, women are just notorious for this. I do it. I don't know why, but I just feel like if I put a period, I'm being an asshole for some reason. I don't know why.

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  15. Was that oh, yeah, big fucking yeah, I know it was great and they actually interviewed GoDaddy and they said, why aren't you taking this down? This is terrible. And they interviewed the maker of the site in a veil and a voice disguiser. And he kept the joke going the whole time, even though it was a complete joke. I just love stuff like that. I mean, it's like the Colbert show stuff where the person being interviewed clearly didn't know that this was a complete joke. I love stuff like that. And so with non-threatening leadership strategies, people were like, this is terrible advice. You know, with my book sometimes, they're like, why don't you just be smart instead of trying to appear smart? I'm like, I know that's the point.

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  16. Because why would they think that the president would actually do that? But anyway, so stuff like that. But this goes back to one of my favorite jokes online was safe toby.com. I don't know if you guys ever remember safe toby.com. It was this guy who had a rabbit who said he was going to.

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  17. He likes to see the gorillas fighting, and so they created this whole channel for him so that he could do that. And a lot of people thought it was real, which is scary. Right.

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  18. Oh my gosh, that was great. That was comedy gold. Comedy gold. You know, basically someone created a fake excerpt from Michael Wolfe's book, Fire and Fury, where they created a gorilla TV channel for Trump because he loves watching gorilla-based content. That was the quote, guerrilla-based content.

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  19. Yeah, exactly. It kind of just goes back to the way that we change how we speak. And a lot of people took that as real advice, which I think is the best part of any parody is the people that take it seriously. With the whole guerrilla television thing that happened over the weekend.

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  20. That one Frid Kind of not. And you did a whole thing about threatening non threatening women too. I thought that was really terrific. It's the beginning of all the jokes you'd make about women in tech.

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  21. It's very diverse because half of the people wear hoodies on Mondays and the other half wear them on Fridays. You know, it's so diverse. Some of them went to Stanford class of 11 and some of them went to Stanford Class of 13. So kind of just pointing out what's going on in terms of trying to say that we are amazing and we're the best and we're so ahead of everything when really kind of not. And there's a lot of things that get overlooked. Right.

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  22. Actually, it was very cathartic because she Like recent statistic came out that 80% of people in tech don't think that there's a problem with sexism in tech. The rest are women, obviously. You know, it's just pointing out the obvious of what's going on. And I did a whole piece about this with diversity in terms of

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  23. So, how do you make comedy out of that? Last night on the Golden Globes, there were so many good sexual harassment jokes, and I was glad to see it. They were great, although right on Twitter is like, we should not laugh over these things. I was like, no, we really should because they were really, Harvey Weinstein, the only person being booed in Immemorium was a fantastic joke, for example. And people are like, whoa, you know, that was the kind of thing. And yeah, years ago, there was a comic, and I'm blanking on her name. She was really funny. She did a 9-11 comedy show and she was like, she felt like it was always too soon, but it was wonderful. It actually was very cathartic because she also talked about she was down there at the time. How do you make jokes about that? Sexual harassment or gender discrimination, you know.

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  24. It's just so ridiculous. It's just so insanely ridiculous. The situation with losing seats on the board and just the fall from grace. But it's also not funny in a lot of ways when you think about seriously what's happening and what women have had to go through there. I think it's just ironic, again, going back to what we were saying before, where so much is going on that no one's saying anything about it. And I think that is the biggest problem a lot of times in the worldplace is that, and it goes back to the Venn diagram, someone should have said what you're doing is ridiculous, but no one wants to say those things. And so that's kind of this.

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  25. Yeah, there's a lot of things you couldn't say. And I think a lot of times, especially in the climate that we're in now, there's a lot more caution. Right. Yeah.

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  26. There's a lot of that lately. I think that just calling out exactly what's happening, you can't really get in trouble for just being honest and just saying what's going on.

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  27. Swear a little bit, not a lot. I think that a lot of times the best thing to do and the funniest thing to do in meetings is just to say exactly what's going on. If there's an awkward silence, say, wow, that got weird. Or, you know, if somebody says something that could be interpreted in a sexual way, say, oh, better call HR.

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  28. I have a specific tech comedy crossover question, which is when you're doing stand up, you're on stage doing standup. You sort of can say whatever you want. You can be free willing with language. You can swear all you want, et cetera. And even before we just got started here, you were asking about cursing. And I said, I haven't heard of the word cursing since the Nixon administration. When you're in a room in a meeting, talk about like You know, so if you're comfortable. Swore all you wanted

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  29. Which is a joke. They do not have sex. And I talk a lot about my husband, who's a software engineer and how, you know, if there's a problem in the relationship, he makes me file a bug for it. I filed a bug. I said, you know, we're not spending enough time together. So I filed a bug and he marked it working as intended. And then I said he wasn't listening to me. I filed a bug for that and he reassigned it to my therapist. So I like combining sort of the things that I can understand because I don't understand a lot of the things that he talks about with more of the relationship kind of stuff.

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  30. Yeah, yeah, I do a lot of tech humor. I tell a joke about how I heard a rumor that the software engineers at Google are so proud of working there that they have sex with their badges on.

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  31. No one comments on it. It's like, oh, yeah. Because you don't want to look stupid. You don't want to look like you don't know what's going on. Don't you want to?

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  32. No, I mean, well, I said, what's going on with that? Oh, you know, it's fats and trying to, you know, decrease the amount of fat. I don't know. She was very skinny. Really? Yeah.

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  33. No, but that's the other thing is that everyone's just like, oh, yeah, this is normal. This totally makes sense. Do you have a butterfly?

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  34. But I went to a breakfast, and this girl was just eating a stick of butter. She literally had a stick of butter in her hand and was eating it like a lollipop or something.

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  35. And so the soilent folk sent a case of soylent to the room. And the writers kind of looked at this box in the middle of the room, like, who's going? Who's going in? Are you going to do it first? You do it first. They wrote this bit that ended up getting out of the show, unfortunately, but they wrote this bit in which Dinesh and Gilfoyle trient.

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  36. No, I did not. Okay. You could kill a cat with it if you dropped it. No, no, no, no, no. And before the Bloombark did the you squeeze the packet yourself, a well-known internet person did a video of it and was going around. It was Kevin Rose who showed that you could squeeze the pack and stuff.

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  37. Like, what is going on? I don't understand it. Although it's interesting, it's so funny because a lot of things does then become something. It's like in 10 years, it could be that we all are drinking raw water.

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  38. And then it's the guy who failed miserably. And now he's telling us to drink something that might kill us. Like, what is going on? I don't understand it.

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  39. Women are humans. You can deal with people. I think that that has gone kind of the other direction of it. And I think that goes back to, you know, how do we make fun of this? It's so crazy that story is so insane that how would Silicon Valley even attack that? Because it's already almost a satire of itself. Right, right. It's so insane.

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  40. Well, it was interesting because that Emily Chang piece about the sex parties or whatever they never had to go to the prom and therefore they had to have sex parties. I'm like, whoa. That's a huge leap. It's a leap even the minor stuff. They can't deal with women. I'm like, they can. Yeah.

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  41. That is more realistic than a lot of things that we see sometimes in terms when it comes to geeks. Being a geek is actually cool now. It's cool to be a geek. Right. Yeah.

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  42. Um, well, I think that I hear a lot of people say they hate the Big Bang theory. And I completely agree with that. I think there is some depiction that is just too over the top and too nerdy when the fact of the matter is a lot of people in tech are Programmers now. They're kind of the other side of that. They're not cheesy and nerdy. They're actually trying to be too cool almost. I worked on a musical last year called Soma Musical, which was a total parody and send up of tech. And it was a thinly veiled. Parody of what's going on with Uber and kind of a CEO gone out of control with a lot of arrogance and just kind of not really realizing that, hey, there are certain rules that maybe shouldn't be broken or lines that shouldn't be crossed. And so I think

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  43. That's so funny because I always thought she was just trying to be a female version of the person who played the VC before, just kind of Aspergery.

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  44. Yeah. I do wish there were more women on the show. Oh, that's realistic too. It's very realistic, but it was just kind of reminds you of this vicious cycle of the fact that there's so many men in tech, so now there's a show about tech. And there's, to be realistic, they can only hire male actors. And so it's like this.

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  45. What my real life is like I thought the best one was the woman venture capitalist with the bathroom. I thought that was one of my favorite scenes, like that she's located near a bathroom. Yeah, but they don't say anything. You see the men in that room. I thought that was so on point. Yeah.

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  46. I think it's more loving, but then you also get the sense that these characters are annihilating and a little, they don't really care about each other as much. They really have a lot of ego and they really want to get ahead. But I don't know. You feel like you identify with them. So the only way that the show could have worked really is if you create characters where you can really identify with them. The feedback that I get a lot is that it's too real. It's almost makes people feel a sense of anxiety because it's so much like their life. And so they'd rather just go to their startup than watch this show about a startup. Oh, interesting. That's kind of what I've heard about it.

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  47. I mean, and it went bad sometimes, you know, if there was a big redesign and they ripped designers apart for doing something like creating white space or anything like that. And they were harsh. So they can be really harsh. But I think that they're actually really funny.

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  48. Inside Google, making fun of Larry and Sergei as they were talking. So you were watching Larry and Sergei and then you were also watching everyone make fun of Larry and Sergei at the same time. I mean, it was.

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  49. Yes. Okay. My experience at Google on purpose. Sometimes not, you know, sometimes they don't mean to be, but I thought the software engineers there were just very dry, very sarcastic. Nothing was sacred. Meme gen. Which was just this live updating feed inside Google.

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  50. Much as other industries, how would you assess tech people, though, as humor? Not as humor. They are funny and they don't mean to be. I think they've almost no sense of humor. And I don't mean to say that they're grim, but it escapes them

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