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1. “You so much, Axe. It has been a joy to work for and with you, and to have you as a mentor and a friend. I really appreciate it.”

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2. “You know, I think there are a lot of ways to fulfill that mandate, but for me, I think it really would be politics or writing. Those are where my passions and my skills lie.”

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3. “Moral orientation. And so I think to me that really shapes how I think about going about politics, right? That is sort of the mission that I think about what politics is, is to help those who are on the outside, who are on the margins.”

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4. “Have actually. I think that I now understand that basically everything I do in politics, I see it through the lens of that core in the image idea of basically every speech I'm writing is making the point that we are all infinitely worthy, equal, and totally unique. That to me is key. I also just think Judaism's real focus on the stranger, right? Like you read the Torah 36 times. It's like love the stranger for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. That's weird. The ancient Israelites were the strangers, right? Like they were a bunch of fugitive slaves, right? They were constantly getting attacked. It's like, why would you say to them, be nice to strangers? That's very odd. But I think that it's basically inculcating a certain moral sensibility of you are right now an outsider. You know the pain of being vulnerable and afraid. And so your mission, your mission on this earth is to always care for those who are outsiders, right? That is your fundamental.”

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5. “You know, if I had said this five years ago, I would have been shocked, but my answer to your question is, I think I want to write another book, you know, which is I would really like to write a book on God and spirituality. I think that's something that we in Judaism, that's not something we focus on as much, right? We're kind of, you know, we don't, we sort of focus on the doing and stuff like that, but I'd like to focus write another book on spirituality. And I don't know whether I would go back to politics. Maybe, right? Not in the primary, but if someone in the general or their spouse needed help, of course, I'm going to help. I love my country. I'm always going to help.”

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6. “Yeah, it has. And it's very frustrating to me to see this. There is, you know, the kind of hyper focus on Israel is a little disconcerting to me because China just in turned a million Muslims in internment camps to re-educate them, but there's no focus on that. But it's like there's a real focus on Israel. So I just, you know, the focus seems to be disproportionate to me, right? That is a little troubling to me. But I also, like many Jews, I do have disagreements with what Israel's doing. So I'm both not thrilled with what I think is a disproportionate focus on Israel as opposed to other countries. I don't like Israel being treated differently than any other country on earth, but I have real disagreements with the Israeli government.”

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7. “A lot of this falls to him. But I also think we're seeing left-wing anti-Semitism as well. We're seeing on college campuses. We're seeing it elsewhere. I think that's also a very serious and serious problem. Complicated.”

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8. “Yeah, well, I'm very concerned to answer the second question. As for the first question, look, I don't think it's a secret that this has been rising over the last few years. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think that when you have a national political leader and a number of people who enable that person who deliberately foments anti-Muslim sentiments, anti-immigrant sentiments, racist sentiments, when you have someone deliberately riling up those kind of sentiments and empowering and enabling folks who hold those sentiments, that affects Jews as well. You don't meet many white supremacists or neo-Nazis who say, oh, I love Muslims, but I can't stand immigrants or, oh, I adore African Americans, but I just don't love Jews. They hate all minorities. When you empower them and embolden them and inspire them, that affects all minorities. So I do think that current president, yeah, I think that this a lot, some”

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9. “So they actually agree with a lot of my book because it's me sharing my love and my interpretation of Judaism. And I think they appreciate that.”

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10. “I think they probably would say the latter, right? I do think that that's in the Orthodox world there is less, a little bit less picking and choosing. They're still picking and choosing, let's be clear. You decide what to emphasize or not, but that is, you know, it is a more literal interpretation of things. But even so, the Orthodox world, very diverse. Number one, number two, some of the most warm and enthusiastic feedback I've gotten from my book has been from some of the most deeply Orthodox people I know who say, you know, Sarah, I don't agree with how, you know, you practice differently than I do. I don't agree with some of the points you make, but I see that you did your homework and I see how much you love this and I love it too.”

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11. “Not very. But you know, I a lot of people will say, well, are you more observant now? And I'll say yes. And they'll say, no, you're not. You don't honor the rules of Shabbat. You work on Saturday. You don't keep kosher. You don't go to synagogues very often. And it's like, that's interesting. Those are a few commandments, but see, there are these other commandments that demand that I conduct my business affairs, honestly, that I speak kindly, that I care for those who are struggling and vulnerable, that I worry about the stranger. I take those very seriously. And ultimately every Jew is picking and choosing, right? We're all deciding what to emphasize and what not. People will claim that they're not. Yes, they are. I can always find you someone who's doing more than you are.”

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12. “Are now rabbis. This is why gay people are now married under 90% of Jewish practice today. This is why gay people are rabbis. I mean, 90% of American Jews ordain women as rabbis, gay people as rabbis, and perform gay marriages because we've continued this process of reinterpreting. So that's what you have to do. You have to make sure that all of the language and provisions are consistent with a core moral sensibility that honors the fundamental dignity of every human being.”

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13. “I mean, the Torah, which is the first five books of what Christians call the Old Testament, it's 2,500 years old, Newsflash, really old. Constitution, more than 200 years old. If we lived by the original version of the Constitution, that would be evil. It would be an abomination. Same if we lived by the original version of the Torah. You reinterpret it. We amended the Constitution to get rid of slavery, thank God. We amended it to let women vote, thank God. We continue to amend this document. Same with the Torah, right? We have spent 2,500 years reinterpreting, reimagining it to make it consistent with our moral sensibilities at the time. Ancient rabbis read the Torah's provision of an eye for an eye and said, oh no, no, no, no, that means an eye for monetary compensation, of course. No, it doesn't. But they didn't like what they saw, and it wasn't consistent with their basic morality, so they reimagined it. They did that with a lot of things, and we've continued to do that today. This is why”

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14. “Engage with this stuff that has been tremendously meaningful. And just to have a sense of the depth and wisdom of this tradition that for so long was just like, oh, I'm Jewish by heritage. I'm culturally Jewish. Now I have a sense of what it actually has to offer, and I feel such pride. Such pride. I mean, listen, how many, how often do you hang out with like ammonites or hittites or Amalekites? You don't, right? But the Israelites were still here, were Jews. That's kind of amazing.”

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15. “My answer to all those questions is yes. Like I am, I am so much happier. I am much more grounded. I feel much more connected to just something bigger, right? Something that since that first retreat has sort of just been with me. It's like it's kind of more of an openness to life. It's an understanding that I think a lot of us go through life not feeling not much of anything at all because we're kind of closed. And I think when you have that experience of kind of opening up, you experience more pain, but also more joy, right? So I feel like I'm much less kind of numb and checked out and much more present. I think I've also just met a community of people in Washington, D.C. and around the country who love to wrestle with these big issues. that I love to wrestle with, you know, who are really struggling with like, what does it mean to be a good person and lead a worthy life and have spiritual connection? I've come up with, you know, just to have this community of rabbis and scholars and other Jews who”

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16. “Inexplicable is tough. But I think we've all had intimations of it. If you think of the moment your child was born, your parent took their last breath. You were standing out looking at a night sky, feeling so tiny in this infinite universe. You had a moment of profound love with someone. You know, like we have these moments, and you want to call it neuronspiring in your brain, sure. That's a fine explanation. I'm not trying to impose God on anyone, but I call those moments God, right? To me, those feel divine. You know, can I explain that in a court of law now? I can't. But does it make my daily life be filled with much more awe and wonder and gratitude and openness? Yeah, it does.”

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17. “Human mind and brain is capable of, I think if you asked a tree how it relates to the divine, it would use a different language because it's a tree, right? It doesn't have a language of love and relation. You know, I just think trying to articulate in language something that just feels so”

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18. “So now you can proceed. Now I'm going to say this. I think that God is everything. I think your God and I'm God. I think it's the animating energy of the universe. And the idea that there's a barrier between us is an illusion. I think the homeless man on the street is actually a manifestation of the divine, right? That's a very different way of looking at people. I think that God is what Martin Buber says arises between two people in deep human relation, like when they're really fully seeing each other's humanity, I think to me what arises between them is God. I love Mordecai Kaplan's definition that God is the process by which we become our highest truest selves. But I also relate to this animating energy of the universe as a you. I do, because I have a human heart and mind. I can't relate to this ineffable, animating, massive thing. You can't love a force. You can't love an energy, right? So my mind conceives of this thing as kind of a being, even though I don't think it's a being, I relate to it as a being. That's not nuts. I can't justify that. That's not rational, but I also think that's what my”

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19. “Yeah, you know, I think when I concluded that exercise, I didn't even know what to think. I didn't have a coherent conclusion, but I think in the course of that retreat, in the course of my studies and experiences in the years since. I have a definition of God that you try to articulate it and you sound like a moron, I'll be totally honest. I think that God is everything.”

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20. “Unsettled after this breakup, and I think that it was just a moment of kind of unbridled self-expression. And I kind of was just started to just talk about how frustrated I was with dealing with anxiety still, you know, like I've struggled with anxiety my whole life and I was like, why am I still struggling with this? You know, I have this fancy White House job, everything's going so well and like I'm still struggling with anxiety and I just like just sort of I just started to get very emotional. I mean, it was totally shocking to me how emotional and kind of intense it was. But I found it really moving. Surprisingly so. And a lot of people who do this practice, even if they're skeptical, they have a similar experience.”

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21. “Alone in the woods, talking out loud to God, which, you know, I didn't have a God to talk to, right? And I just thought this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. And I actually worried. I'm like, are there security cameras out there? Like, what if someone sees me? I'm like, I'm not going to lose my security clearance. I mean, I thought this was so dumb, but I'm also a rule follower. I was like, this is what we're doing now. So I'm going to do it. And I started out being like, hey, God, you did good work because it's nice nature, but there is no you. I don't who am I talking? And I just found myself getting more and more kind of agitated and emotional and just. You know, I was still feeling really anxious and kind of.”

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22. “I mean, look, I am not like a woo woo person. I'm a pretty skeptical, the touchy feely stuff makes me a touch nervous. But I showed up on this retreat and it was very powerful. When you spend days meditating and praying and your life, your mind gets quiet, you're off of away from screens and work, you start to have some insights about your life. And then on one of the final nights of their treats, they told us that we were going to do an exercise where we would go out to the woods where no one could hear you, and you were asked to talk out loud to God for about 45 minutes without stopping. So like if you run out of things to say, you say I've run out of things to say, keep talking, don't know what to say. If you don't believe in God, you say, I don't believe in you. This is dumb. I'm talking to open air. You just have to keep talking and it has to be out loud.”

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23. “As for God, yeah, I went on a silent Jewish meditation retreat six months after I took this class, knew nothing about it, showed up.”

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24. “Yeah. So I think for me, the core animating beating heart idea of Judaism is the line in the Torah that says we are all created in the image of God. And I don't care whether you believe in any kind of God or deity what that means as a rabbi name Yitz Greenberg puts it is that we are all infinitely worthy, we're all equal to each other, and everyone is totally unique. No one else is like us. And you can be like, well, obviously, Sarah, I think we all believe that. No, we don't. Not a single person who believes that. If you actually believe that, why would you ever walk by a homeless person on the street and say, oh, I'm sorry, sir, not today? If that person were Barack Obama, that person were a celebrity, you'd stop. If there were just a laptop on the street, you would stop. We don't fundamentally think that a celebrity and a homeless person are infinitely worth, totally equal, and unique. We think of them differently in terms of their wealth, status, fame, and Judaism is a protest against that differentiation of people. I think that's the core idea.”

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25. “My life. But really, where has this been? Why do we present American Jews with some of the most off-putting parts and not share with them the most amazing transformational wisdom? It's sort of a communications problem.”

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26. “Did you know growing up going to two boring services at Rosh Hashanah and Yomgapur, boring, incomprehensible, a long, boring seder, and then abut mitzvah that, you know, similar experience, right? I just thought, well, there's nothing to see here. This isn't where I'm going to find meaning or spirituality. But doing this class as an adult, I was like, wait a second, actually studying Jewish texts as an adult was like this is an edgy, radical, subversive, insightful, and very smart tradition with a lot of wisdom about how to be a good person and how to live a meaningful life and how to find adult spiritual connection. You know, if you're going to tell me God is a man in the sky who rewards you when you're nice and punishes you and you're naughty, I'm out. I'm an atheist. Sorry, don't buy it. See evidence to the contrary every minute of every day. But studying Jewish theology and spirituality, that's not what the Jewish God is. There is an incredible diversity of theology and spirituality. I mean, just think, wait a second, where has this been on?”

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27. “But I didn't have much Jewish background, right? I went to synagogue twice a year, kind of pieced out after my bought mitzvah. And so I didn't know anything about Judaism.”

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28. “I mean, maybe I would be a black belt by now. I'm just saying. You know, it was who knows what the journey might have taken.”

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29. “No, it really wasn't. It wasn't the kind of work issue that it was just we weren't the right fit. But I find it very hard to break up with someone who's a wonderful person, even if it's not the right fit, because it's sort of hard to let go of someone wonderful, even when he's not wonderful for you. So that to me was really painful. And I just was feeling like lonely and at loose ends. And I just happened to get an email about an introduction to Judaism class. And I really, I signed up not because I was going to go on a spiritual journey or in existential crisis. I signed up because I was lonely and bored. Could have been an email about a karate class or a photography class. And I actually probably would have taken it. I was really desperate to fill my time. And I thought, all right.”

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30. “Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I went through this very painful breakup, and I was just, I was lonely and anxious. And I suddenly had this time on my hands that I had not had before.”

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31. “Exactly, which is a human mistake. That could happen to me. That could happen to any speech writer. So I, you know, there be the grace of God go away.”

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32. “That's what every, it is so easy as a speechwriter when you're rushing things happen, right? And we were so blessed to have these extraordinary fact-checking apparatus to make sure things like that didn't happen. So my response was there, but for the grace of God go I. I mean. I was very lucky to have the support. And”

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33. “And so I didn't see the speech, but I woke up the next morning, opened my phone, and had messages all night long, reporters calling. Colleagues emailing, where are you? Where are you? Why aren't you? Do you see what's happening? I thought I was in trouble that I'd done something wrong. I finally figured out what had gone on and I swear my very first reaction was there for the grace of God go I. Like I just think”

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34. “Here's the funny thing it was actually more like a couple paragraphs. The funny thing is I went. I don't even know who knows. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I went to bed early that night because I was not feeling well.”

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35. “There is. I mean, it was the greatest privilege and honor of my life. I would not trade a minute of it. But yeah, it really, it does subsume your life, right? Like you, you know, I can't say to Mrs. Obama, oh, I'm sorry, I just, I don't have time to write this speech. I have a personal thing I want to do when like the speech is tomorrow, right? Like your schedule is really tied to the principal schedule. Like my schedule, I vacationed when Mrs. Obama vacationed, right? That's how it worked. And it's very erratic. You know, you think if things happen last minute, crises happen, you really don't control your schedule. So it is a lot of work. It's stressful. The scrutiny that every word she said was under, that was scary. I worried a lot. We scrubbed every speech, fact checkers, lawyers, communications people. I mean, the level of fact checking that every speech went through because we were so worried about the tiniest error, the tiniest inaccuracy. You know, that kept me up at night.”

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36. “You'd move, right? You would leave the neighborhood. Like, if you wouldn't say something to one person, don't say it to many people. It doesn't get better. You have to talk like yourself. You have to say something true. And this is the thing I love so much about working for you all those years is you are like allergic to problem and slogans and sound bites. You're just, you're like allergic. God help us if we ever had some stupid soundbite in his beach. It would be like red pen crossed out. Because it's insulting to the American people”

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37. “It's become such a cliche, which is frustrating to me. What it means is that you talk like yourself. I mean, I don't know how else to say this. You know, when I see politicians standing up there and being like hardworking American middle class family values are the heart of the American dream and the economy, I'm like, have you ever turned to your spouse, your colleague, your neighbor and said, you know, Bob, I'm just thinking that hardworking American middle class family values are the heart of the American dream. No one talks this way. If you wouldn't say something to one person, and if they did, you'd.”

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38. “And she was a joy to work with on that speech because she's so gets messaging. She gets authenticity. I mean, I've learned a tremendous amount from working for her and I really am a big fan.”

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39. “About her parents, right? Talked about her dad who had passed away, she was close to, talked about her mom. She just kind of laid out who she was. It wasn't like here's the speech I'm gonna give, it was this is who I am. And I think, and that was the beating heart of the speech.”

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40. “Exactly. And it's just such an old, ugly thing, the angry black woman, really. It's like, okay, guys, and that's not her. I mean, it was just, it was, I was really angry on her behalf that this was happening. So, you know, we met and then we met for 90 minutes in her living room in Hyde Park. And she just said, here's who I am. Here's who I am. And she talked about being a lawyer, working in public service with young people. She talked about being a mom and how she said, you know, being a mom, like this is the most important thing. I mean, she just talked about her.”

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41. “This is a bad idea. I've been attacking her husband for 17 months. She's going to hate you. She's going to hate me. And Stephanie was like, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. So she kind of shoves me into this room. And I could see, you know, she was so warm, Mrs. Obama. She was so welcoming, but I could see that like she looked a little bit vulnerable, right? Like she'd been getting this just this brutal press. Angry black woman, all the sexism and racism. And”

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42. “Well, she was the one who insisted I write the speech because I'd worked with her on the carry campaign. I am so glad that no one listened to me because, you know, the minute I remember going walking into a conference room with her, Stephanie Cutter actually had her hand on my back, was sort of shoving me forward. Stephanie will. As you will, right? And I was saying, Stephanie.”

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43. “Was, you know, I have to be honest when they said when Favreau said to me, okay, we need you to write Michelle's speech, I kind of said like, wait a second, I'm here to write for him just because I'm the girl. I'm writing for her. Yeah, women's work. Right, exactly.”

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44. “But I have to say within a few weeks, I felt like part of the family, and I think part of that was the welcome you gave me, and also then Senator Obama, he called me the day I wrote my first speech and said, like, I'm so happy to have you here. I met Mrs. Obama when I was assigned to work on her convention speech. And she treated me like those 17 months hadn't happened. It was like, okay, you're on my team, you're here, we're doing this.”

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45. “Yeah, that's a bad look. I'm like, you won. I hope I wasn't one of them. No, you were not. It was good natured. It was loving”

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46. “The transition was funny. I would say the first few weeks there was some kind of good nature teasing, right? And also some kind of why did you guys do this? You know, Obama folks were saying, you know, why did you guys say this? Why did you do that? That wasn't fair. And I remember saying to them, guys, don't be sore win”

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47. “You No, I mean, look, were there some hard feelings left over from the kind of attacks back and forth? Sure, but if there's a bigger mission here, like a much bigger mission, and I didn't even hesitate. And just because I loved Hillary and worked for her, it didn't mean I hated Obama, right? I think that was sort of a misconception. Watching him from her campaign, I was impressed by him.”

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48. “It was a really classy, kind email where you just said, you know, I'm really sorry about Hillary. Hope you're doing okay. I'd love to talk to you about coming to work for me. And I just thought, yep, absolutely. No hesitation.”

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49. “The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who take credit for other people's work. Well, there's plenty of other stuff to.”

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50. “I would love to accept credit for that line. I'm giving it to you. Don't do it. Not my line, not my line. A guy named Jim Kennedy, who is a former communications director, he came up with it. I feel very guilty.”

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