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Sarah McBride

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  1. “The people who are most often victims of gender policing in restrooms are non-transgender women who are non-gender conforming, women who have short hair, women who are taller, women who have a more muscular build, women who don't wear makeup, women who dress in a more gender non-conforming way. Those are typically the victims of gender policing. And so we just have to grapple with this diversity and maybe just allow one another to live and express and if someone does something wrong in the restroom punish them for that behavior”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “The freshman Democrat was bewildered, continued to go about her business. Lauren Bobert went on to the floor of the House of Representatives to secure the backup of Congress's top bathroom sheriff, a woman named Nancy Mace. They come off the floor of the House of Representatives, march into the bathroom, and sheepishly walk out a couple of minutes later, realize.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Would cause a lot much more disruption in the men's restroom than I would in the women's restroom, which I use without incident for my entire adult life. But they have banned me. There was an incident in February of last year where a MAGA member of Congress named Lauren Bobert went into the women's restroom right off the floor of the House of Representatives and she saw freshman Democrat with shoulder length hair and glasses in the restroom and she started to harass her and started to scream at her you don't belong in here.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “The capital, the only public restrooms that are available are multi stall, gender specific restrooms, unless you have a private office, and I'm not senior enough to have a private office in the capital.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Risk of not only being outed because if you're a trans person in a men's restroom, it pretty much outs your trans woman in a men's restroom, it pretty much outs you, but it can also put you as well at very legitimate real risk of assault. And we actually know that that happens. And then finally, stepping back. Do we want an environment where we are playing gender police with restrooms? I'll give you one example. I got into Congress, we'll probably talk more about this. They banned me trans people from restrooms. In Congress”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “How do we guarantee that they too can fully participate in life? Because the reality is bathrooms have actually been at the center of every single battle for civil and human rights. Certainly in our country, probably in your country, in part because if you can't use restrooms with ease and safety, then it becomes very difficult to leave your home, to go to work, to get goods and services. It becomes very difficult to participate in public life. And so trans people are here. There might be some people who are uncomfortable if they know when I'm in a restroom, but they're also, who are women, and there also might be men who would be uncomfortable if I was in the restroom with them as well. There's going to be discomfort for some people. The question is, does that mean that we essentially create an environment where trans people can't use one restroom? And quite frankly, put at very legitimate.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Abusing anyone. Discomfort alone is not grounds to exclude people. If it were, then we'd have a long list of people who feel uncomfortable with other kinds of people in spaces where they feel a little bit more vulnerable, right? Everyone feels a little bit vulnerable in a restroom. But discomfort alone cannot be grounds to exclude people. And at the end of the day, trans people exist. Trans people exist. And so the question is, even if you have academic or intellectual disagreements about gender identity and sex, and even if you have questions or concerns, At the end of the day, we have to decide how do we treat people who exist.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “My understanding of their position is one, that they reject the sort of distinction between gender identity and sex. And that these two things can be in conflict. And two, that they are then concerned with, from their perspective, the safety and integrity of spaces that are typically reserved for women. And I can't tell someone that they don't feel uncomfortable. I can't tell someone that they should just get over it. What I can say is a couple of things. The first is that trans people are concerned with safety and privacy in private spaces. Trans people are seeking to go about their business, do their business, and mine their business. We have had inclusive policies in many states and cities across the United States. You have had up until recently fairly inclusive policies. And there was not a spate of people pretending to be trans, going into spaces and”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Was really hard for them. I mean, they are loving progressive people, but they really struggled. They struggled with, I think, two things primarily. The first was fear for my future. The second was confusion. Exactly what we were talking about, a challenge in understanding what it felt like to be me and sort of being consumed and caught up with that inability to understand.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “I think I hit it really well. I didn't want to disappoint people. Think I hit it well because I knew how lucky I was, but as it grew, that pain started to become more visible to the point where on Christmas Day in 2011, my mom just could tell that there was something that was plaguing me. And she asked me what was wrong. And in a fit of courage and ruining Christmas, I told her that I was trans in that moment”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Exactly, just this unwavering ache in the pit of my stomach that only would go away when I could be seen and affirmed as myself. And unlike homesickness, which dissipates with time and as you get to used to your new surroundings, it only increased to the point where I remember when I first came out, I realized that everyone else doesn't have their mind cluttered with gender. Everyone else is able to think clearly in ways that I wasn't able to when I was in the closet. It was something I thought about every single waking hour of every single day. And only when I came out did that clutter in my mind did that pain to that homesickness dissipate.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Is different from our sex that we feel is gender. When those things match up, you don't feel something. It's only when there is conflict between the two that you really feel that inner pain. And it's hard to explain what it feels like, but the closest thing that I can compare being trans and in the closet to was this constant feeling of homesickness”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “For me, when I was born, based on my exterior body, the doctors, my parents, everyone said, you're a sign male at birth, you're a boy. And for 99% of people, if not more, those things do align. We do know as trans people have existed throughout time, throughout cultures, that there are a small number of people for whom that inner sense of their gender differs from that sex assigned at birth. And that discordance between gender identity and sex causes what is called gender dysphoria. And I think the biggest challenge for folks, yes, sort of understanding”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “My earliest memories are of knowing who I am and knowing that the world didn't see me as that. I don't know what makes me trans. I don't know why I am trans. There is a lot of research out there that really does show it's something that might happen when you're still a fetus in utero. I don't know why I am the way I am, but I know it's who I've been all my life. And I think that the challenge I will just say in this conversation is that Unlike sexual orientation, where most people know what it feels like to love and to lust, straight people are able to enter into conversations around gay rights with an analogous experience. And the challenge for people who aren't trans is that they don't have an analogous experience to what it feels like to be transit in the closet.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Or not, but that interest in politics for me was really rooted in a crisis of hope. I, at 15, was very aware of the fact that there was something about me that other people didn't approve of. I was very aware of the fact that there was something about me that while it was buried deep in the closet would mean that I might not be able to find love, do work that I love, live in a community that I loved. And the reason why I got involved in politics was because I found hope in it. I found hope in politics as a means to make this world kinder and more just and more inclusive.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Well, that's a great way to start because it is an honor to be with you both. I am a longtime listener. You know, my 15-year-old self was incredibly lucky in so many ways. I was lucky in the community that I was born and raised in in Wilmington, Delaware. I was lucky to be born into an amazing family. I lucked out in the parent lottery. I went to an amazing school, an art school actually. At that point at 15, I had started getting involved in politics. I was pretty insufferable is the long and short of it. But I was involved in politics because the sort of first rule in politics is you're supposed to pretend like you wake up one morning, fall out of bed, and find yourself an elected office. You're not supposed to share that you had an interest in politics before you got into it. But I lay it all out on the table. I was really involved in politics. I didn't know whether I would run for off.”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “I feel like you and I might have gotten along. I'm not sure if Alistair and I would have gotten along. You might not have liked me. I was pretty nerdy. Pretty consumed with books about history and politics. I think that you're pretty cool. But first of all, it's just wonderful to be here, both of you are very cool. I didn't mean to insult Rory right away. You see, because the”

    2026-03-29 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source