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  1. Filled with love. Unconditional love. When I think back on it, my mom and dad played tennis. My mom also grew up really, really poor. Her dad died when he was in his 30s. But she had a rich super aunt who never gave the family money but gave her things like ballet lessons. And so my mom was a dancer. And I think back on it, she was a loving physical artist. It was like when I remember when Carol and I were going to get married and I told my dad that we grew up Sweden borgens and I was planning on converting to Judaism. I don't want her to have a target on her back that I didn't have on mine as well. And my dad's answer was, man should do what the woman wants. So that was my mom and dad. I mean, what I will say about growing up with them is we hear all these people talk about.

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  2. Their father's dream, not their dream. And he said the only advice I can give you about having kids is when you have kids, don't dream their dreams for them. Do not do that. So he was an unusual guy. To be very honest, the only human being I've ever met in my life close to who he was was him.

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  3. As my mom and dad did, was Black Cherokee, super honorable, super loving, super gentle, but also somebody you wouldn't want to fuck with. So that was my dad's background when he met my mom. And she said, basically, if you even curse around me, we're not going to be together. And you can't do anything illegal. So he left the world that he was in and started selling bluepoint tools that morphed into snap-on tools. He told me later on when I was still struggling as an actor. And the thing that I'm sad about, but I can't do anything about it, is he never saw me being successful. My mom did, but my dad was dead by the time. He told me, he said when he was start doing really well with Snap on tools, he said, I keep running it to these men who are lawyers and doctors, and they're not happy. They're doing.

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  4. Well, my dad grew up in a way that I can't possibly understand, in real serious poverty. I remember he told me at one point, if I ever have money, I'm going to give it to a charity, make it the salvation army, because they fed us Christmas times. They had a cow and a vacant lot that three blocks of people used for milk. So I'm not going to go into, I don't want to divulge you, but my dad was involved in as hard a life as you can imagine and did well in that life. So my dad's background was he dealt with really poor Irish, Jewish, black, Italian. And all of them involved in gambling and booze. None of them involved in drugs. They were all people. My dad's best friend who raised me as much as possible.

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  5. Took a second, and he gave me the best advice I could ever have had. He said, Son, I don't really know anything about what you're telling me. The only advice I can give you is don't give yourself any deadlines. I said, what do you mean? He said, don't say, if I haven't made it in two years, I'm going to sell insurance. He said, that's like starting a race with a lead wheel weight hung around your neck. In for a penny, in for a pound. If you love it, make it your life. And I did, and here I am talking to you.

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  6. My proclivity to daydream, my laziness in a lot of areas, everything made sense like that. And Bill saw it, and he started laughing and he said, that's right, you're one of us. And then he turned to the other students and he said, Scott's not going to finish this. He's got to go outside, walk around the block a couple times and think about things. I went outside. There was a payphone. On Bank Street, I called my mom and dad, my dad on the phone. I said,

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  7. Of America's greatest character actors nominated for him, he might have gotten an Academy Award for, God, I can't think of it. Anyway, Bill answers the phone. And he says, yeah, work on this, bring it by Bergoff Studios Wednesday morning. It was ODA, poor dad, mom was hugging in the closet. I'm feeling so sad, was the play. Something I'm completely unsuited for, but it was a little monologue. I worked on it. I go down into the basement of Vergoff, so it was raining outside. Wednesday morning, maybe seven or eight people sitting there to watch. I walk in front of Bill Hickey to start this monologue, and for the first and only time in my life, literally a light bulb went off between my eyes, and I thought, holy shit, I'm an actor. That fast. And it wasn't like, oh, I'm so fulfilled. It was for the first time my life made sense to me.

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  8. You're right in your description of ideas and action and places isn't bad. It's okay. But your dialogue essentially sucks. It's stiff. Nobody talks like that. The minute you put words into anybody's mouth, whether it's a poem or a short story or whatever, you blow it. If you have to get in front of people and say words, it'll kick you in your ass to start to listen to the way people really talk. And if you're doing theater, you'll be dealing with arguably the best dialogue ever written. So after I got over maybe five or ten minutes of being angry because she told me the truth, I thought, okay, so I got my car. I had an old triumph. And I drove to New York, sold the car, got two jobs. I looked up acting in the village voice, nothing under A under B's at Bergoff studio as I didn't know anything about. I call it up. Call it Burgoff Studios. And this guy named Bill Hickey, who was one of the...

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  9. Mob hits and all that stuff. And I realized that you do do that, but you're for every one of those, you do six interviewing a woman 15 minutes after her teenage son has died in a traffic accident. And you're thinking about, do I get a byline? Is this going to be on page one or page two? And I felt like a ghoul. There was a bulletin board with other jobs listed. So I applied for the job of a reporter on the sports desk. I can't even remember the name of the paper, but it was an American version islands. I got the job, and I was talking to a friend of mine on the phone, and she lives on Long Island. And she said, when's the job start? And I said, in about six months. And she said, why don't you go to New York and take an acting class? And I went, why? And she said, I'll be honest with you, Scott. I read the stuff.

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  10. Vapor lock. Cars aren't even starting now. And there's most stuff in life I don't know, but I just got out of the Marine Corps and Gunfire I do know. And I'm telling you, those were shots. And they said, why don't you go out and cover it? So I went outside and two blocks from the newspaper at the side of the road was the city patrol car with Mrs. Hockadal, the chief of police's wife, sitting in the driver's seat, with her husband's pistol smoking in her lap, and next to her Dorothy Batadas, who was the chief of police's secretary slash mistress with half her head blown away. It was my story. It was the biggest story, obviously. So they made me a police reporter. And I realized I thought being a police reporter would be really cool because I'll cover, you know.

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  11. Job was cover repor I was not very good at what I. So, anyway, I'm up in the city room doing that, and I hear shots out the window. And it was cold as shit. And I remember I said to somebody in the sitting room, those are shots. Go out and check them out. And it was like 30 below zero. It was freezing cold. And somebody said, no, that was a car backfiring. I said,

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  12. Kenosha Daily News, and I did an interview and lied as I often do. They said, can you type? And I went, yeah. And they said, how many words a minute? And I said, 35 because I knew that's what I needed. After the interview, they said, well, you got the job. I came out and there was Joe Jacobi, one of the reporters there, said, you should be happy. You don't look happy. And I said, I'll tell you the truth. I lied. I don't know how to type at all. And he said. Me and one other reporter will cover for you, Scott, for two weeks. You go to adult education at the public high school and learn how to type.

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  13. And then you're going to be shooting automatic weapons without hearing protection. Your hearing is going to be trash. Don't worry about it. So that was my reason. So I did my six months in the Marine Corps, and this was the 60s, where if you were a reservist, you didn't really have to make weekend meetings in summer camp. There were other ways of doing your time, of deployments for three months or a month, month and a half, whatever. When I got out of the Marine Corps, I went to see my mom and dad who were living in Kenosh, Wisconsin. My dad was at that point, he gotten pretty high up in Snap on tools. When I was born, he was a salesman. So he went from no money and no nothing to you actually wound up kind of running that company. I went to Kenosha. There was a job opening on the

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  14. And they laughed. They said, You're going to be an enlisted Marine. You're going to boot camp at Paris Island, and you're worried about your hearing. People are going to scream at you the whole time you're there

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  15. So for me, and I knew even with a BA in college, I had so little technical ability, and everybody will tell you about that. If I was smart enough, I would have tried to become probably a naval aviator, but I wasn't smart enough to be a pilot. So where I came from, the choice is worth three. Marine Corps, 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne. That's it. And then a friend of mine said, well, you can be airborne and a Marine both. And then I was worried about my hearing because I've been legally deaf since I was ten years old because of Scarlet B.

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  16. At any rate, I decided two things number one, When I enlisted in the Marine Corps, I enlisted as a six month through reservists.

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  17. So, the needle going in kind of hurts, but then the rest of it going straightens you up. And I didn't realize it was saving my life, so I hated it. But that experience turned me into an athlete, turned me into someone who had learned to not only live with, but fall in love with my fantasies and my imagination. And I don't know if it's true or not. And I don't want to know because it's a fantasy that I, if it's not true, I grew up believing it was. That on my mom's side of the family, I was directly related to Lord Byron. When I got out of bed from Scarlet Fever, my bones were so soft that they bent and I limped for almost four years. But it turned me into an athlete because I was just embarrassed about the way I looked. And I was in a neighborhood where it wasn't good to be physically frail.

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  18. I wanted to be a writer. If I look back on my whole life, the most important single event in my life was scarlet fever when I was nine years old that I wasn't supposed to have survived. There was one weekend when the doctors told my mom and dad to get a plot. And what saved my life was crystalline penicillin. I don't know if you've ever had that shot of it, but it's interesting. Because usually with most shots, it's the needle going in that hurts. And it's fine. Crystalline penicillin is like thicker than engine grease.

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  19. Call him, and I don't know if it was the time, someplace in New York about gillies and bull machines and all that stuff. And then Jim adapted that and wrote the screenplay. I don't know what it was he saw. I remember my screen test. They wanted me to do a scene, and I said, I can't do that. I'm not in the part. I don't want to lose it. And Jim said, well, you've got to put you on screen. And I said, Deborah was doing her sexy bull ride at the time. And there were a bunch of guys in the front watching, and I picked out the baddest looking one of all who was a bandito, Texas. And I said, put the camera on me. And I thought, dear Lord, don't let this go bad, but here we go. When they were watching Deborah and I walked over to him, and I went, hey, and he looked up at me and I said, you're sitting on my fucking seat, and he looked at me and I thought what's going on.

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  20. I just had done my first movie with him, and I got the movie. I came out here and I met him, but I didn't audition for the part. There is a director, Ed Perone, who I'd done a thing called in New York, it was called Collision Course. It was 9-1X in the course of a night. And Ed said to Jim, if you're looking for somebody, a young guy who's not going to charge you a ton of money and is perfect for the part, Scott Glends the guy. So I got that part and did the movie. So Jim knew me over a period of, in those days, movies took about three months to shoot. Now it's way faster. And I guess whatever was he saw in me, it was jangled awake when we walked into his office coming back from Mexico. That was when he went, oh my God, something that he saw about me, he wrote the script for Urban Cowboy with Aaron Latham, the guy who had originally written.

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  21. We were renting this house with this family that had come up with us. We were sharing this house. We had a bedroom on the bed were two scripts for the leads and movies for more money than I'd ever dreamed about making. And that was that. So here I am in Idaho.

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  22. The girls love you. We're up here, but we're not going to put ourselves through this. And I went, okay. And I was about to hang up, and she said, Wait, before you hang up, I just want to say one thing. I said, What's that? She said, two things. Number one, I love you. Number two, I think you're hitting a home run with this and it's going to change our lives. So when I drove back up here in my jimmy, I remember I stopped off in Wyoming at one point. People must have thought I was nuts. And I got out of the gym, I walked down to the side of the road, and I took this invisible Wes High Tower and threw him in the ground and broke his fucking neck, and called Carol on a payphone. I said, West Hightower is dead. I'm coming home.

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  23. So I turned on the TV stuff. When I've been in Texas, Carol had, Shen left me, but I knew at a certain point when I was playing West Hightower that I had the character, but I was terrified if I left it alone and put it down. It'd be like a bar of soap. And I tried to pick it up and I wouldn't. So I lived that part 24-7. Got arrested, got in trouble. I was Wes Hightower the whole time. I remember at one point I came back to we had an apartment in the galleria and I came back and none of Carol's clothes were, there was no presence of them in the apartment. There had been when I'd gone to work that day. I'm thinking, what's gone on? The phone is ringing to pick it up. And it's Carol. And she said, I'm back in Idaho. I can't handle living with West Hightower. So you let me know when he's dead.

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  24. Thought, I don't want to leave Idaho and move back to LA. I love my life in Idaho. I didn't know how to ski, but I was learning how to ski and I was climbing and I was hiking and I was shooting and I was riding motorcycles and all the things I really love to do. And plus I could really cleanly think about and concern myself with the art of acting and not who do I know and where am I going? And I've got this cool place in Malibu or any of that stuff.

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  25. And I'm going to play a guy who's a real bank robber, a real ex-con, and a real bull rider. And if I just get close to it, I'll look like a diamond in a bucket full of rhinestones. Not because I'm particularly good, but it was almost like a setup. So anyway, that happened, and I didn't have to audition. I auditioned once since then for a part that not a big part in a movie I really wanted to do and the director said, no, no, at that point, I don't want you to do it. So I went to a cattle call under an assumed name, auditioned for it, and got that part. But since I did urban cowboy, my life has changed. And I thought I was offered the lead in some TV series while I was in Texas, because in those days, dailies were shared by everybody in the business. So I turned them all down because I thought.

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  26. And the part was West Hightower. It was funny because when I read the script, I thought all I have to do is be honest with this character. I'm not going to go for big moments. Because if I'm honest, I'll jump off the screen at people simply because this movie is about oil workers and blue-collar workers who dress up like outlaw cowboys on weekends to go in and ride not a real bull, but a bull machine.

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  27. And Jim said, this movie is going to change your life. You'll never have to audition again after you do it. And he told me the truth. I didn't believe it. But in those days, it was Urban Cowboy.

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  28. So he gave me that to do. And then I said, is there anything about being a bull rider that bull riders do that I could learn that most people can't do? And he showed me. He said, yeah, when you tie off your glove, since you're going to be using your dominant hand to wrap the rawhide around, you're going to have to use your non-dominant hand and your teeth. And he said, you're going to have to do it a lot of times to the point where you can go without even thinking about it. So I went, okay, I'm going to do that at least a hundred times a day from now on, hopefully a thousand. I get down to Houston. Jim said. Going to make this happen. I met the actress who had never played the lead in a big movie, Deborah Winger. And both she, John Travolta, Irving Azoff, and Jim Bridges, all kind of like. Shove me down Paramount's throat.

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  29. So I met this guy who told me enough about the character that I was going to be playing and little things like he said, you got to get a hat sticker or something, not a tattoo, but something on you that says 13 and a half. Because that's the number that gets us in here. And we all have it. And I said, what's that stand for? And he said, judge, jury, and a half-assed lawyer. So I said, okay. And he said, Then you got to get tattoos on your forearm, Nuestra Familia. I said, but I'm not a Latino. He said, neither am I and showed me that he had that.

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  30. Whose real name was Baldy Mosuerta, and Freddie was in a family that picked everything illegally. That was his background. And he hung out with these two guys who were for real distilleros, the real deal. And these two guys were there. And they said, what are you doing here, man? And I told them what I was doing. They went, we don't believe this. We got our buddy coming out. He'll be out of here in 15, 20 minutes. You've got to meet him. A bank robber and a bull And I went, yeah, Mexican guy said, No, man, he's a fucking gringo. And I went, okay.

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  31. I went, okay. So I drive down to Houston on my way to Houston. I stop off just in front of Huntsville, prison, where I knew the character I played spent some time. And I'm going to be a little shady about this because I kind of have to be. So I'm sitting there in my jimmy and I hear familiar voices out of the dark saying, hey, Vato, what are you doing? And I look over and there when he was alive In another part of my life, I knew Freddy Fender, the country western singer. All right.

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  32. Ticket. I don't want them to have their hooks into me even for a plane ticket. My GMC Jimmy, I'll drive to Houston. I'll see you down there. And I said, just tell me the part is. And he said, a bank robber and a bull rider.

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  33. Here at Paramount, and I think we can make this happen. And I said, screw that. I don't go into anybody's office like a piece of meat anymore. I just made $2,000, and we're on our way back to Idaho. I just wanted to tell you, I love you and I hope you and Jack are well, and Carol and I are out of here. So we left. We came back up to Idaho. About two weeks later, maybe a little less, I get a call from Jim, and he said, okay, now I'm on location in Houston. Paramount doesn't know who you are. They don't want you to, they want Ryan O'Neill to do this part or maybe Sam Shepard. But I'm going to send you a plane ticket to come down here. I think we can make this work. I've told Irving Azoff the music guy who's also producer about you, and he likes the idea. You got to meet him. I think we can make this happen. And I said, no, don't send me a plane.

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  34. We get all the time in the world. So we're coming back from Mexico. We went to Paramount to see a friend of Carol's and mine that on their advice Carol got pregnant. They said, you guys have got to have a baby. And we were really close. Jim was the director, Jim Bridges, and Jack Larson was his partner, lover, whatever. And they were great guys, super great guys. So we wanted to just say hi to him on our way back to Idaho. We walk into his office. He looks at me. He said, I can't believe you're coming in here. He said, I just realized you're perfect for this part in this movie I'm directing. It's the bad guy, but you're perfect for it. Just hang around town for two or three more days. Meet the star who has cast a pro didn't tell me who it was, who has cast approval.

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  35. So he taught me about how to work with a camera and how to, I mean, he was an amazing guy. He was an aerialist who traveled across the country with a carnival and to make drinking money, fought people in tough man contact. He was the real deal I love it. It was like what people had told me about Roddenbert was like he could flip it around. So on the way home, this is a long

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  36. So the next day, and he kind of was like, I wasn't even there. So the next day, we're on the set getting ready to do some scene. It's a group shot. At the end of the first take, Burke walks over to me and he said, so Scott, has anybody ever taught you the difference between working with a close-up camera lens and being on stage? He said, I know you've done street theater. I can tell. I said, no. He said, I didn't think so. He said, you know, I'm not going to bullshit you. I seriously was watching you, and I think you've got something, but if you'll permit me to be a gigantic pain in the ass over the next three months, I'll teach you whatever I know.

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  37. And then a little bit later, Burr Lancaster comes into the lobby. And to be really honest, he hardly saw me at all. But he's, boy, did he see Carol? And he said to her, so what do you do? And she said, I'm a potter. He said, you got any pictures? And she said, she had some little slide pictures of stuff she'd done. He looked at them, and I could see something change in him. And he looked at her and he said, God, I love this stuff. I only have the work of one other ceramic artist. Would you throw me eleven place or twelve place dinnerware said? It was her first commission ever, and she said, yeah, yeah, I will. Later on, many months later, she found out the other ceramic artist that he owned was named Picasso.

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  38. Those were the stars. And I had a teeny tiny little part is one of Bert's. It was the Duel and Dalton gang, Western. And I was told by a lot of people when I went down there that you're going to love Rod Steiger. He works the same way you do. He's a member of the Actor Studio. And you're kind of guy. But watch out for Bert Lancaster. He's an old school movie star. getting your key light. He'll screw you up. He'll intentionally ruin two shots so they'll have to go to his close-up. Just watch out for him. So we go to Mexico. First day there, El Presidente Buabi, Hotel in Mexico, I'm Eve Rod Steiger. And I rarely... Openly dislike somebody when I meet them. But I wouldn't say it was hate at first sight, but was certainly dislike at first sight.

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  39. So we came up here with that in mind. It was a super cold year. We came up with a friend of Carol's in mine. He was a commercial director, but sort of feeling the same kind of burnout in LA that I felt. So the two families decided we come up here and try to figure out what to do and catch them Idaho. No real idea. We were up here inside two weeks. I get a call from a friend of mine, a guy named Rupert Hitzig, who said, I'm doing a movie in Mexico. The way I knew Rupert was he and I were in the same platoon in the Marine Corps. So Rupert said, I'm producing a movie in Mexico, and I can give you a small part in it. You will be shooting for three months, and I got like, I think it was, I can give you $2,000. And I said, great. And I was warned when I went down there, it starred rodstock.

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  40. System, are they coming from all that stuff that I really cared about then and do to this day? And I said to Carol, I said, How would you and the girls feel if we moved back to Idaho? And she said, what will you do up there? And I said, I met somebody who told me that if I gave him three years, he would apprentice me to be in a backcountry, cross-country ski, guide, and hunting guide. And I'll do that. And she said, will you quit acting? I said, no, I'll do Shakespeare in the park in Boise if I can get a part. I'll do that kind of stuff, but I can't go back to New York with my two daughters this young and subject them to the life of a street actor.

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  41. And I'm sitting watching television smoking a join. And Carol walks into the living room and says, babe, what's wrong? And I say, what do you mean? I'm fine. She said, no, you're crying. And I reached up and there were tears coming out of my eyes. I was on television and a Beretta I had done, and I pointed at it and I said, you're supposed to get better at what you do. Not worse. That's the crappiest acting I've ever seen. I was so much better doing street theater in New York. What's happened to me? And I started thinking, and that night at dinner, I said, you know, what I've turned into in LA, and I'm horrible at it, is a show business politician, which is, what am I up for? Who do I know? What openings and parties can I go to to network and make? And I used to think, what makes this person tick? Why are they doing what they do?

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  42. Is an experience that will change my life, and it did. I told Francis later on that I got the greatest gift you could give any artist in the Philippines, which was self-confidence. So when I came back, before we went up to Idaho, I was basically locked out of Universal because along with self-confidence, I came back with a huge amount of arrogance. And now I remember I did one audition and they said, you know, you're not really very good. We want to give you things to work on. And I said, what the fuck do you know? Who have you worked with? Because I was just doing improvs and work with Marlon Brando, Victorio Sterraro, Francis Coppola, Dennis Hopper, and they accepted me as an equal. What have you done? You've done this and this. You can't even fucking direct traffic. So they kicked me out of Universal. So now we're back from Idaho.

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  43. He said, What do you want? And I said, I want to be in the end of the movie. And he said, You can't be in the end of the movie, Scott. It's absolutely completely cast. Well, yeah, wait, there is a part you could do, but you'd be like a glorified extra. Play Colby, the guy who came at River in front of Morton Sheen. And I understood because of the way I've learned everything in my life that's important to me is you learn by apprenticeship, not from a book or going to school. At least I can't. And I thought at the end of the movie, I'm going to be around the person who, in my mind, is far and away the greatest American, probably the greatest movie actor that ever lived, Marlon Brando. And I'm going to be around this guy. And just being around him. And Dennis Hopper, who's a lunatic, but brilliant, and Martin Sheen, and in the end of this movie.

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  44. So I had no self confidence. And then I did apocalypse now and wound up working my choice. Francis thought I think incorrectly, but he thought that he owed me because he thought I saved his life in the Philippines. So I went over to do a small part and he said I'll write you whatever you want because you filled up a helicopter in a rainstorm with nothing getting in the gas and you kept me from drowning in a river. We might come back. That's nice.

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  45. But that was my experience of working in front of a camera, learning a lot of stuff that stood me in really good stead later on. But what had happened in LA was, okay, I had gone to Universal, I think, to audition. I had done some TV stuff at Universal, and I'd gone there, and because of my experience with apocalypse, what had happened before is I would go in and I would audition for a TV job mainly at one of the studios. And people would tell me what a crappy actor I was. You squint too much, you're not loud enough, you're not doing this, you're not doing that. And on the surface, I would say, well, what do you know? But the reality was underneath it, I suspected maybe they were right. And I didn't know what I was doing in terms of a camera. On stage or doing improv in the back of an alley, yeah, I could do that.

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  46. I had done a ton of work in New York, mainly street theater, improv, off Broadway, and then we moved to LA for me to do the first film I ever did, which was called Baby Maker. And then I did a couple of sort of very small parts in big, important American movies. One was Nashville, Bob Alban's film, and the other was Apocalypse Now. A little over seven months. They shot that film. It was the shooting was a year and a half. So I was a short timer at seven months.

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  47. But what I discovered, this sounds woo-wah and whatever, but I don't really give a shit because it's true. It was like the family fell in love with each other again. I had been sort of living in the blues in LA because of what I do for a living. And all that fell away up here.

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  48. It sucks, and you had a bad time. And I said, why should I do that? He said, because I don't want people coming up here. So when Carol drove me back into Ketchum, I felt like I was entering Lower Manhattan. It was like noise and people.

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  49. With the exception of once that I won't talk about, but then in that situation, and it was just so much fun and so cleansing and so it was just the best. And I thought I knew how to rock climb, but there was a guy named Tony Jones there who was a great rock climber who sort of took me under his wing and took me into 5'11 plus plus stuff. The dangerous stuff he led all of us, so I don't want to pretend that I just instantly did it. But I did do those climbs again and again. And I remember when Carol was going to come and pick it when we were done, it was like two weeks and a little over two and a half weeks of doing this. I said to Tony, I got to give you some money or something. I mean, you've been giving me, he said, come on, I had a great time. I said, what can I do for you? And he said, you can do this. When you go back to LA, tell everybody how horrible I'd.

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  50. Time, but it's probably still true. The Bighorn Crags, no internal combustion allowed at all. So if forestry service had to go in and open up trailheads, they had to go in with mules, two-man crosscut saws because you couldn't turn on a foreign. That wouldn't work. So we did that, and it was, I hadn't been off on my own alone.

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