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“So, you know, that inspiration, I think, is important. That's what I tell kids, that also a lot of parents, you know, if their kids are struggling, I think you can tell them all you want that they have to do better, but you really have to show them why they need to do better. You know, there has to be that thing, that inspiration, that spark that just provides inspiration.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With regards to like risk taking and putting myself in challenging and risky situations, you know, the adventure of it really spoke to me. But then I realized I am not a good student. And these guys, you know, most of them went to the military service academies. I think Pete Conrad went to Princeton. I mean, they were very accomplished students before they were pilots. But I thought to myself, you know, if I could just fix that one thing about me, you know, if I could learn how to pay attention and study and do better in school, perhaps I could change colleges, change majors, become a, get an engineering major, the place I was at wasn't quite working out for me and get a commission in the US Navy and go fly fighter planes off of an aircraft carrier, maybe become a test pilot maybe quite possibly an astronaut.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“by Tom Wolfe. Something in that book just really sparked my imagination. I think it's probably partly his creative nonfiction writing style that was just really caught my attention and my imagination. It was the fact that I felt like I could relate to the people in the book, the guys that were he was writing about. They were all guys at the time, not anymore. You know, there are obviously a lot of female astronauts now, but back then there was only men. And it felt like I had something in common with them.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I remember seeing this book on the end of the aisle, you know, where they highlight the stuff that they're trying to sell. I think it's called the NCAP or something of a bookshelf. And there's this book that had this very patriotic red white and blue cover, a cool title, caught my eye, made me pick it up. Wasn't a big reader at the time, so it's kind of unusual for me to actually buy a book like that then and read the back, found it interesting, looked through the first three pages, took my gum money or my beer money or whatever it was, and bought the book, walked back to my dorm room, and then opened it up and basically didn't get out of my bed for the next few days, just reading the stories of the fighter pilots, military fighter pilots and test pilots that became the original Mercury Gemini Apollo astronauts. The book was the right story.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Never diagnosed. So that's probably why I had such a hard time. And it wasn't until I got to college and I was still struggling. Didn't know how to study, really didn't do well. Eventually I'm not even going to class anymore or at least much. Basically, you know, on the fast track of how a lot of kids experienced their first year of college, you know, basically one and done, you know, one year and you're done. And then I was just walking across the college campus, just happened to walk into the bookstore, not to buy a book. It was probably, you know, going there to buy gum or some other non-educational related thing. Maybe they sold beer there. I don't know who knows.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Felt like it was impossible for me when I was a kid to pay attention. Not like I didn't want to. I always went into the new school year with the intention of doing well. And three days into school I'd be three days behind and then the rest of the year was just basically on autopilot, not really learning much, not paying attention a whole lot, not getting good grades. I think back then it seemed like it was easier to do that than I think what I've noticed with my kids today. I don't think you'd be able to get away with the amount of effort I put in then. But I could just remember it being impossible for me to pay attention, basically having the feeling that if you would have held a gun to my head to force me to pay attention, I wouldn't have been able to do it. That's how I felt. And I think, you know, I probably have like ADD or ADHD.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so you know, most people would think as an astronaut you must have been the smartest guy in the class, the overachiever. And that is certainly the case with a lot of my colleagues. I mean, I know folks that I've worked with that saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon and when they were little kids and decided right then and there that's what they were going to do and they did the best at everything from there on out until they became an astronaut and was flying it were flying in space which is great. I wish I could have done that. I think that's kind of a boring story though. I think it's much more interesting when it's someone like me who couldn't pay attention in school spent probably the first 13 years of my education staring out the window when, when is this going to be over so I can get out of here? And it was”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I wasn't particularly good at school. So, yeah, so with my help in a summer of really hard work on her part, and when she went to take that test, she actually did better than a lot of the men did and became the very first female police officer in my hometown, one of the first in the entire state.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Overly prepared. Yeah, the first time she went to climb over that, she probably got her foot a foot high and fell off, fell back into the dirt. But I can remember picking herself up, you know, brushing herself off and, you know, just saying, I'm going to just try to touch the top for now. And then, you know, once I can do that, I'll see how long I can hold on for. Maybe someday, eventually I'll be able to do a pull-up and quite possibly at the end of the summer, perhaps be able to get over this wall. You know, some of the other tests was she had to drag a 130-pound dummy 100 feet, and we just happened to have a long backyard. I happened to, at the time weigh 130 pounds, and also... And also fit the role as a dummy.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like I was saying, my dad helped her and he built the whole activity she would have to do in her backyard, including a wall. That was seven foot four inches tall. He actually built it an inch taller without telling her. So she thought she was practicing on a, you know, a seven foot, four inch wall, and she was practicing.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was the first time in my life that I saw the power of having this goal you think you might not be able to achieve. A plan to get there and then working really, really hard at something. I always wanted to thank my mom for giving that lesson to me and my brother Mark.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At the time, there were very few in the state of New Jersey. You know, it was a challenging thing for her, especially the physical part of it, because, you know, at that time it was a physical fitness test was really designed for the men that were. Trying to become Policemen and firefighters as civil service exams that included Physical fitness portion and It was a challenge that for her was not easy I saw her work really, really hard at this. And my dad helped her by setting up this obstacle course in her backyard. When she first went out there, she was not very successful. I was a little bit skeptical, I can remember thinking, is she going to really be able to do this? But she, uh, She had a goal that she wanted to achieve a plan to get there, and she was successful.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a good place to start with my mom because we all started with our moms. And really, this all happened kind of in the late 70s and throughout the 80s where my dad was a cop in New Jersey and he was in my hometown of West Arnes. He was one of those like stereotypical Irish cop guys you'd see on TV. And my mother was a secretary and a waitress various jobs she had at different times. And about the time my brother and I were becoming teenagers when she could spend more time at work, she decided that she wanted to have a career like my father's and was going to attempt to become a police officer in our hometown. Never had a female police officer before.”
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“I'm just an intern, they might say, or I'm just a nurse. But Mark didn't care what the person's training was. What do you think? he would ask. What are we missing? What are we overlooking? Even if they hadn't been there long, their opinion mattered and he learned valuable information by gathering as many perspectives as he could. I learned as much as seeing from how he handled Gabby's care as I did from anyone I flew with in space The smartest person in the room? I've learned, is usually the person who knows how to tap into the intelligence of every person in the room.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But my sister in law, Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, was shot in two thousand eleven, I was in space halfway through a six month mission. My brother Mark was constantly having to make difficult decisions about her care. He found himself in meetings with many of her caretakers, trauma surgeons, brain surgeons, neurologists. But instead of just hearing out the top doctor or more experienced expert, Mark would go a step further. He would find one quiet person in the back of the room and ask them who they were.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fire the deorbit engin And as we came out of darkness and started hitting the atmosphere, the plasma field, the fire outside the space shuttle, continued to build. Pretty soon we were in a 3,000 degree fireball falling towards Earth at an incredible speed Me and my entire crew are mostly silent as we approach the point where the space shuttle Columbia had come apart. As we transition through that altitude, my pilot scorch said, passing through peak heating. Understand, I replied. I let about 20 seconds go by and added, Like we dodge that bullet as we all reflected on the loss of our seven colleagues. About 30 minutes later, we landed safely at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. This kind of decision making can help in other places too. Places like a level one trauma center in Tucson, Arizona.”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a sign on the wall and a meeting room at NASA. None of us is as dumb as all of us. And it's a lesson NASA had to learn the hard way. It's part of what went wrong with the Columbia accident and with Challenger before it. People who raised concerns were silenced because groupthink had taken over. With the input of my crew, and after thorough analysis, we decided, along with flight controllers and leaderships on the ground, that coming back with a hole in the heat shield posed less of a risk than attempting a repair.”
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“I made sure I spoke to each of my crew members individually to get their honest opinions. I took this to such an extreme that I asked everyone I could. I even asked the astronaut and Russian cosmonauts who weren't coming back with us on endeavor. Why not call a meeting? Why not make a decision together as a group? Well, I've seen what can happen when people try to make decisions in groups. One person will offer an opinion, and if that person is knowledgeable or well respected, everyone else might go along with what they said. Group think sets in. People aren't even conscious of doing this sometimes. It's something we do as a social species to get along, and it's often a useful instinct. But in a case like this, it could be deadly.”
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“It would have been tempting to make a quick decision on my own, but over the years I've spent leading and following. I've learned that the best decisions aren't made that way. Instead, I found a good time to take each crew member aside, one by one, in private. I kept a picture of the heat shield damage and a printout of some analysis from the ground in my back pocket, so I'd be able to take advantage of a quiet moment”
2020-11-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #478: Scott Kelly — Lessons Learned from 500+ Days in Space, Life-Changing Books, and The Art of Making Hard Choices · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sometimes in space, you get a call from a third grade classroom that wants to see what it looks like to go to the bathroom in zero gravity. Other times, you get a call from Mission Control saying there's a hole the size of a golf ball in a heat shield, and you might burn up on reentry. I got that call a day or so into commanding my first and only space shuttle mission. A similar issue had killed seven of my colleagues on Columbia a few years earlier. We could do a spacewalk to try to repair the heat shield, but spacewalks are extremely risky on their own, and there was always a danger we could just damage the heat shield more while trying to fix it. But if we left the hole as it was, the heat of reentry might tear the space shuttle apart. As commander, I had a lot of say in what our approach was going to be.”
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