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Seth Meyers

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“It was. That's my thing. Do you know that substantive is a word that we had to take out of scripts because I can't say it, right?”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know, I do feel like I knew. I think these people are going to be in charge of comedy for the next 10 years. And I wasn't wrong.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do miss that. I mean, it is, you know, look, it's great having your own show and a door you can close. Like, I love it so much. Like, I'm also somebody who enjoys time by themselves. But, you know, people always say, do you miss SNL? And I'm like, I miss being that age. Like, I don't want to be at SNL now, but I miss that, you know, being around a group of people where we all sort of felt like the arrow was pointing up and you were surrounded by...”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At an SNL table read while stuff is bombing, like those were so informative and instructive. And so I do wish that for the younger generation.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it worked out for a lot of people. And I do, you know, the one thing I hope for the younger generation who, and again, I do think they're making great stuff, right? I see young people do things on TikTok all the time that blow my mind. I hope they're not lonely because so much of the great part of my career was collaboration. And it wasn't always great, but you know, I got put on an improv troop with like nine strangers. And, you know, three of them are still my friends today. And again, that is completely comes from a place of ignorance. And maybe they would all tell me, no, it's great. There is a community. But that is the part that worries me because so much of what has been good about my life in comedy has been the people I've met and the laughter I've experienced off camera in a writer's room.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Literally be like, I'm going to hang out. I'll get a job waiting tables and I'll wait every six months. There's auditions for Second City. Like that wasn't a good plan. Yeah.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I try very hard to remember that as crazy as it seems to me, like what we did was crazy. And so I'm glad that I know when you say, what would I be doing? I know it wouldn't be what I did 30 years ago. Which”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's so interesting because I always say, you know, and again, certainly as we're living through this, you know, it's very fraught time for people my age in this business. And one of the, I feel like things we always repeat is thank God we started when we did. That always just sort of ignores the fact that the younger generation, they're resolute and they're, you know, they're full of the same imagination we had. And it's just they're going to figure out the tools and they're going to figure out how to do it. And I do believe we're going to see bursts of creativity from every generation. It just scares me the idea of like, oh, wow. So, you know, you got to generate your own material. And then if it's a hit, now you're on this treadmill of constantly having to feed this beast that you started. Now, of course, you know, maybe they would be, you know, I explained to them like what we used to do is move to Chicago and hope to get on stage and they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I don't use it. I'm sure it's a tool. I'm sure people in comedy will start using it. I think it will probably at some point look, I'm not. I'm not so ignorant as to think it won't replace bad comedy writing. I'm sure at some point it'll be able to do that. And then ultimately, I think it's the responsibility of good comedy writers to stay ahead of it. Look, if it's better, they're going to use it. And there's nothing we can do about it.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But again, yeah, it was a really good show. Critics liked it and was nominated for awards. And so for us, it was frustrating that it didn't take off, but it also, you know, you just kind of go back to the drawing board. still working with Amber trying to figure out what's the best use of her talents. Obviously, we're thrilled to have her at our show. She's an integral part of what we're doing here, along with her partner, Jenny Hegel, and the two of them do jokes that can't tell together. But yeah, I mean, ultimately, like we, you know, when we realized we were lucky enough to have a show like this and when we had somebody as talented as Amber, we are trying to do everything we can to get voices like her out there, but it is frustrating.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think with Amber. Look, it was peacock, it was early peacock. It was launched during the pandemic. There were a lot of things working against it. I think it might have a better chance now that Peacock's doing better.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We just watch what happens and we write fast, you know, and it's part of what makes this job so fun is. You can't get ahead of it. If you are committed to the idea of we're going to write a show about the last 24 hours, like that's where our show has the most value. You know, we appreciate that, you know, a closer look, we'll get 2 million views in the first two, sorry, the first 24 hours and then none after because it's like a newspaper. There's no, and again, it's not like we know it's not like we're putting journalists out in the field to do exit polling. We're just going to react to what we see.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess we're it's about how he wins. Right? I mean, to some degree, you have to. Know the country is going to tell us what they want on election day, and we're going to respond to that. Is it could be based on how big a victory it is for either candidate where you get a sense of where you're at? I think what we found from our show, and again, I'm not being coy, but like we react, our show's the best when we react to the moment as it's happening, as opposed to try to game out, you know, two plus weeks. We're going to write it this way if this happens. We're going to write it this way if that happens.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, and I... Hope you believe me. I really just care for the country. I think we can find comedy wherever this breaks. And I'm not worried about that. And so my concerns for the outcome of this election are, you know.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I do not in any way, shape, or form, think to myself, oh, I'm not rubbing my hands together, being like, oh, maybe we'll get lucky in another four years.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I'm very, I don't think it'll be. We went into when Trump joined the race in 2015, it was like handy. I was as guilty as anybody else thinking, like, this is what a delight, right? And then we were doing a lot of close looks, and it was a lot about him and a lot about Hillary, and like we had no expectation he was going to win, but then we were ready for the moment because we had been doing, you know, we'd learned how to turn over content fast. But I did not enjoy those four years. And I certainly Don't want to do it again. And I do worry as well that audiences will be just be so bummed out. Yeah. I mean, you know, look, we're going to, again, the only way we know how to react to it is authentically.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll say, I feel like the jokes are the only good part about living through the Trump era. Living through the Trump era without any jokes would be like getting a prostate exam and not wanting the results. Let me tell you what we found. No, no, that's not what I'm here for. To be here tomorrow, get you back up in there though It's also very strange for me because based on the kind of show I do and because it's a show about politics, people have been coming out to me so much over the last two years and saying, oh my God, this Trump presidency must be so good for you. How good is this Trump presidency for you?”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, part of it is environment. I just don't believe that if I wasn't talking about, first of all, I just went into a show where I don't talk about politics. There's other choices for people who”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, but LCB is the only one. There was no Netflix, and there was no streaming, and there was no cable. So I'm not saying he wasn't the best that ever did it. He definitely was.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I just think that, look, there's a lot of, I mean, again, I think the reason ratings are down is because there's more options for everybody, right? Like everybody says, like, oh, Johnny Carson worked because”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Great I mean, look, Happy there's choices for an audience, but I kind of look, I think that our show actually works better because people tune in and are seeing a person be authentic. I would argue. That if we were doing a talk show from, let's say, the mid 90s, where it was just desk pieces and no point of view, I think those would be the shows that would be off the air right now Yeah. So, yes, I mean, I think that you could also say, I think the. I will not deny, obviously, right? There's a decline in linear ratings.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, armchair expert, and you a very successful show. And you sort of first hear about it and you think to yourself, what? And then you listen to it and you're like, oh, yeah, she's just a great broadcaster. And you just realize. And it's so funny how the idea of broadcasting, I think obviously has changed. But at the end of the day, you just want to, you know, whether it's watching or listening, you just want to be with people you trust and like. You should do.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I was mostly just very impressed. It is, you know, it's also. Sometimes you just have to. Step back and just tip your cap to the perfect alchemy of that group of three guys, they have a natural friendship and they slide into, it's like you would cast a show about three guys and vocally, I mean, that's one of the things my brother and I are up against, identical voices Where are those guys? You know, they just fall into their roles. I mean, you know, I'm friends with Dak Shepard as well.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People are interested in how you make stuff And then they were kind enough to say, oh, we've been trying to figure out a podcast. That's a great idea. Would you host it for us? And so mostly for me, and again, it's talking to three guys I love. And then it's fun. I like talking about that era of my life being with those creative people because it's not just the shorts. It bleeds over to our time at SNL and that wonderful cast and that group of writers. And it's a process show. And I think for, you know, I don't think it's for everybody, but I think for young people, I think for people who live through it, I think it's really fun to remember. And I think for young people who just like talking about comedy, I think it's a really helpful tool.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How That was, and again, part of the stunty nature is not wanting to just be redundant to the market. These, you know, it was like I realized there were, again, behind the curve, all behind the curve Myers, but I was realizing, oh, there's this sort of, you know, recap podcasts, you know, there were the office girls were always sunny. And I basically just reached out to the Lonely Island guys and said, you guys should do one of these. Um...”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, we're doing good. And I will say the nice thing about it, and I know this is like one of your friends, Scott Galloway's talking points that men don't have friends. Yeah. But it's amazing how my brother and I, who I would say is my closest friend, we like talk two minutes a week. And then my wife would be like, What's he up to? I'm like, I have no idea. I don't even know what he said. And so now I get to spend, you know, an hour a week with my brother. It's so great. And then the Lonely Island guys who are three of my closest friends”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then one of the realities was again, I was always looking for something to do with my brother. And when the writer's strike happened, I had all this free time. And it's possible to do a podcast while you also have a late night show. It's really hard to start one while you have a late night show. And so I was just glad, like, sort of those during that bummer of whatever it was, four months, we managed to get a couple on their feet.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was obviously way behind the curve. And when the boom started, I remember. My agents coming saying, Would you want to do a podcast? And I remember thinking, I don't want to, first of all, I feel like they're done, right? Like this, again, like, you know, Cohen is doing it smart. Liz is doing it. I don't want to interview other people. I interview people on my show, and I don't want to try to chase a thing other people are doing better.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We do family trips. But it felt like almost like an Anthony Bourdain type we're going to travel around the bars of Brooklyn. It wasn't about binge drinking. It was about, you know, like the way you properly day drink. And then weirdly we realized, oh, the fun is to stay in one location, come up with dumb games, drink stupid drinks, and just get drunk on camera. Now, I should note to every listener here who's doubting the wisdom of this We only do it a couple times a year because it's a terrible look. And obviously, you know, I always say Carpool karaoke is a great bit and nobody's ever like buddy. You got to stop singing in cars. But, you know, this is... And the other problem is post Rihanna, everyone wants to do it. And so you, it's so, I mean, our talent department's like, could you maybe, I mean, it's like”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Again, it's so fun to talk about how you come up with these things because it's never as smart as the idea turned out to be. So the first one I did was with my brother, and we were just trying to find out, figure out something to do with my brother on the show. The first day drinking was a little bit more like.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Haven't only because well, look, when we started our show in 2014, the conventional wisdom for what worked online with these late night shows was celebrity driven, music driven, short. And then we did the thing we wanted to do, which is a closer look, which is 10 to 15 minutes. Now, we did that not thinking there was any future for it online. With that said, That's what is our biggest hit no close second. And so that's 15 minutes, three times a week. Viewership is probably 10 million views a week. And that's the other thing is weirdly, because again, now we have a younger generation who have the patience for podcasts. I think the YouTube videos they watch are an hour or two hours. So for us. Almost 15 minutes is now the new TikTok video. For a generation of kids who like to engage with longer form stuff.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, again, I don't know what the demographics are of our YouTube viewers, but my assumption is that's where the younger eyeballs are. I mean, the very fact that people used to watch these shows, myself included at 1237 because, I mean, there were no other, it wasn't like I only watched Conan because there was no other options, but I was watching Conan aware of the fact that there were no other options. Right. I'm never up when my show actually airs, but if I was, I don't know if I would flip on network television as it was airing knowing that I could catch it later.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By the way, I think he would have if there was YouTube. So we have these 15 million eyeballs and everybody, because I do think it would benefit us all, everybody at NBC is, I think, trying to figure out what's the way to monetize this and have there be a future of late now. Now, obviously, if they can't do that, I don't think the future is particularly bright, but I am hopeful that they're smart people who are working hard to try to crack that problem.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“100%. I will say it was still for me the thing to get to. And now that I'm here, I have no interest in leaving creatively. It's such a wonderful home to be able to do four shows a week where you ultimately are building it from the ground up every day. Thrilling. I can't imagine replacing it with anything else that would be more exhilarating. As for the business side, everything you said is very true, and I don't feel like we're being lied to when the network tells us that ad revenue is down. I think for us, we are hopeful by the fact that, you know, certainly fewer people are watching us than watch late night with Conan O'Brien. But of course, Conan O'Brien didn't have 15 million YouTube viewers a week.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is the same thing. And there's no, it's by the way, no lack of jokes, same amount of jokes you'd see in a stand-up set, but this like to have that arc and that resolution is a very cool thing.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think Verbeglia deserves so much credit for building this other model, which is. It is very much stand up comedy, and yet it's also theater, right? Maybe a show is better than theater, but it does feel like a show. Whereas I feel like you can see some standups, you're like, oh my God, he's a great standup. Whereas Berbigli does that thing. No, he's creating.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And also just like a Sunday home game in New York City, because one of the things about touring, which to be honest, I mostly tour to get an hour ready to film. Like I don't want to be away from my family that much. But if I know I'm filming for HBO, I will go out one weekend a month and try to do four shows in a weekend just for the reps. And now that this dead man walking is out, mostly my plan is just to do the beacon for the near future and start working on a new hour. Right.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One Sunday a month, and it John was very kind during the writer's strike. He had some beacon shows booked and he invited me to join him for three nights in August of 23, I guess. And then we sold out three shows. And the beacon reached out and asked if we would want to do a monthly residency. And that is, I mean, one, I love being around John. And we are good friends who never see each other. And now we see each other once a month. There's a night, it just feels, I mean, again, I'm never relaxed when I'm about to do an hour of standup, but it is nice when you know the audience is also getting John. You sort of feel like a burden of like, no matter how bad it goes, John's incredibly consistent and incredibly good”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“100%. I think the 80s and the 90s, right? The model was the Roseanne model. You do enough stand up and you do a lot of stand up in LA. Probably even less touring in the hopes that a development executive would see you. And one, barely any sitcoms anymore. So it would be a sort of fool's errand to aim for that. And in general, yeah, I mean, you. Generating, I mean, again, I don't think I could tour, even if I was a full time touring comic, I certainly would not have the sort of booming ticket sales as the people at the top of the game. But they are absolutely being rewarded for their talents and their fan bases who want to keep coming out and seeing them. And, you know, I also think it's an arduous life.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I mean, I should say, like, still the nicest thing about stand up is, you know, taking it on the road is as lucrative as doing a special. So it is nice to have that ownership. Know Cara, I will say, and you know with the podcast I'm doing right now, like we do all those, and it's been fun to do that independently. And I realize this sort of value of it when you realize, when you. Appreciate both cutting out the middleman and then realizing how little the middleman does anything for you.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, you know, I've reached the age where it's kind of fun to do things that are meaningful to me. And maybe, who knows, maybe not the smartest move financially.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just the idea of like, I mean, I'm pretty, I'm almost certain the first hour long comedy special I saw was likely on HBO”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just because HBO meant something to me, and like, I also feel like we grew up in an era where, like, It was like this company, which is, I know crazy now because companies don't like you. Yeah, they don't. That static and HBO thing.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Volume Netflix definitely has the crown. But I think for all stand ups everywhere, it's great when different streamers want to get into it.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just, you know, I was doing my show, you know, before I started doing my residency, the beacon, I was doing the city winery, which is, you know, a little 300 seater. And, you know, she came there to check it out. So, as far as ranking disagreement, but you know, I know Hulu's getting in the business, which is just good for all of us. And I believe, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn. I think Bill Burr is maybe doing one over there. And, you know, Jim Gaffigan and Nate Bargetti doing stuff on Amazon, I think is good for everybody. Certainly, if you're talking about...”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, dating around. And Nina Rosenstein over at HBO has a great reputation. And in this time, she was sort of the one who courted me. And I like being courted. Kara, I do like”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So anytime I can work, anytime I can work with a different person, it's just exciting. So having done Netflix, it was just the appeal for me was doing.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The thing I sort of missed was it came out in November of 19. And then I would have maybe started touring about six months later, but that was the pandemic. So I never really found out what the touring bounce was of doing, starting to do standup right after a Netflix special came out. And I've certainly heard from friends and colleagues that that is a real thing. And, you know, this time around, I would only say, you know, for me, it does seem as though HBO has feels more curated. Obviously, part of it is they're doing less. I think that there's always a risk of getting a little lost in the Netflix shuffle. I say that having had nothing but a positive experience. And the other thing for me, which is again different than most people, I've worked for the same company for almost 25 years.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, so I got into this a little bit later, so I don't think I came in with a huge sense of what it was. And Robbie Pra who is in charge of comedy at Netflix was actually really integral in me doing Lobby Baby. In my head didn't think I was ready to do a special or necessarily want to do one. And he had seen me do my hour a few times. And he sort of leaned on me and gave me the confidence to do Lobby Baby. My experience with Netflix was great.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know, I saw terrible content. I saw more commercials than I think you see on social media. Like I was just constantly getting blasted.”
2024-10-24 · On with Kara Swisher · Seth Meyers on Parenting, Podcasting & Late Night · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT