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  1. Literally a week from right now, I think that my wedding will be, well, in a half hour from now, a week from today. So it's very exciting.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. There are more veterans running, but right now and this time it seems like an awful lot more are Democrats because they see what peril the country is in with the person we have in the White House. Incidentally, someone who got five deferments so he could dodge the draft and avoid serving in Vietnam.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. That we came together around is the fact that we both served in the war and that we had that common understanding, that common experience that's fundamentally what brought us together and gave us mutual respect for each other, even if we don't always agree.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. The other side. Yes, I mean, look, there are always exceptions to the rule. But I do. I mean, oftentimes veterans are the first people I will go to when I'm looking for a Republican colleague or a sponsor. I started a caucus called The Warrior Caucus with a Republican from Oklahoma. And he's a very conservative Republican. He's not even a moderate Republican. He's someone that I disagree strongly with on very important issues, issues that go right to the core of who I am and who I think we should be as Americans. And yet we're able to find ground on issues where we agree, like on national security. And so there are important issues that I will never work with him on. But that doesn't prevent me from finding common ground where we can and doing the right thing for the country together when we can and getting things done that I wouldn't be able to do if I didn't have his partnership on, especially when Republicans are in control of the House.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. I do. I don't think it is a litmus test that you have to be a veteran to run for Congress. But I do think it should be a litmus test that you've got to be willing to put your country first, that you've got to be willing to put your country ahead of your personal politics, your party's politics. You've got to do the right thing for America. And that's what I see in these veterans. You know, it's quite something when you know someone who's willing to put his or her life on the line for you. And one of my closest friends in the Marines was my teammate when I worked for General Petraeus. Her name is Anne, and she's an extraordinary woman. It was an extraordinary Marine. She put her life on the line for me and I put my life on the line for her. Turns out she's a Republican, but there are a few people I trust more in the world than Anne, even though we have real disagreements on some policy things, although I think we actually probably find we have more in common than most people would expect.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. I've honestly not thought about that question, David, which maybe gives you a view to where my head is right now in terms of my focus being 2018, not 2020. I think I'm a hell of a lot more prepared than the current occupant of that office. But, you know, but I'm not running for president. That's not my focus right now. I hope to support someone who runs for president, who understands what it means to lead, who understand what it means to put the country first, who's understood, you know, I think that maybe it'd be a good idea to have a veteran to run for president, given the stakes with what's going on overseas and frankly at home right now as well. But that's just the kind of person that I'm trying to be in Congress, not because I'm trying to run for president, but just because I think it's the right thing to do.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. That's right, and she's someone who has proven that she can win elections as a Democrat in a Trump district. So that's what this is about. It's about Democrats saying that if we're going to start winning again, we need to start leading again. And I think that means a new generation of leadership.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Look, I'm flattered by the question and I appreciate the encouragement that a lot of people have given me, but the reality is that I am squarely focused on twenty eighteen. But if you're going to win in 2018, if we're going to take back the house in 2018, it means you have to travel and support candidates. And it means you have to try to get people to understand what it means to have a new generation of leadership in the party. And if you look at the three speakers at the Iowa State Fry, they're myself, Tim Ryan. Both of us led the charge for changes in House leadership. And then Sherry Bustos, who's this rising star in the Democratic Party.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. No, I'm not planning to run for president, but in 2018, that's where my focus is. We've got to win back the House of Representatives. And I have 12 candidates I've already endorsed.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. I do get older every day, I guess. It's something I can't stop, but as much as I might regret it. Look, no, I'm traveling the country because I'm supporting these candidates for 2018. I'm going to ask you about that.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. They only route to a so I have an apprenticeship bill that I'm working on in Congress to try to dramatically expand apprenticeships. Because ultimately we need people to know that they will be respected and admired for jobs that don't require a college degree. Not everybody wants to get a college degree. And we need those folks as part of our economy as well. I think Democrats are right to say that everybody should have an opportunity to get a college education. If you can't pay for it, you'll get it for free. I support that. But we also need to say that if you want to get an apprenticeship or you want to go to vocational school, that we will provide that opportunity for you. And not only that, but we'll respect you for your job when you get out.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Oh, it's a huge problem. And we But look, let's be honest. Let me just say on this leadership thing that our leadership got up before the caucus and said, you know, what we need to do to start winning again is to go back to 2006, 2007, when we were in control. And I said, look, it's a different place. It's a different world. People were just getting used to an iPhone back then. We need to face the economic problems of today and of the future. And we need to have a plan to deal with automation. And it's got to be a plan that says to everybody in America, no matter where you live, not just if you live in a good city, in a big city rather, on the coast that's doing well in this new economy. But if you live in a small town in rural America, we want you to be a part of the economy of the future as well. And this is going to be hard. There are a few things we need to do. We need to make some serious reforms in education because education is no longer something that you can just get in high school or college and then be set for the rest of your life. The economy is changing too quickly.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. It's not fair. I mean, David, it's not fair to her. It's not right. But, you know, there's this yearning, I think, for a new generation of Democrats to step up and say, we need to get back in touch with Middle America, who we've lost. We need to make sure that we are a party that truly understands what it means to be hurting in this new economy, to be out of work, to be seeing your jobs taken over not by immigrants, but by robots, being automated out of existence. What do we do about that?

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. I'm asking you. No, I'd say a lot of credit for doing that. It's credit that's well deserved. But she would be in a much better negotiating position if Democrats controlled the House of Representatives than we are in now. And that's why I think it's so important that we have a leadership change so that we can start winning again.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Well, we've got to do whatever we can to save these kids who came here through no fault of their own, and are Americans just like the rest of us. They serve in the military, they go to school, they contribute to our economy. I mean, just in Massachusetts, we will suffer a massive millions and millions of dollars of economic losses. So I'm with you. Let's stipulate that, but

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. But there's a time and a place for everything. And she's also been a very effective opposition figure for the Republicans. A lot of that isn't entirely fair either, the way she's been painted by the Republicans. In fact, it's in some ways it's just totally immoral. It's wrong. But nonetheless, it's been effective. Democrats need to start winning again. We need to start winning again to preserve these values that are inherent to what makes us who we are as Americans. We need to preserve the access to healthcare that President Obama enabled. We need to preserve the right to marry whoever you love. We need to make sure that freedom and equality are extended to all in America. And I know that we can't count on our Republican friends to uphold those promises. And we certainly can't count on this administration. If we want to take back the House of Representatives to put a check on Trump, I think we need new leadership. And I think it's time.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Right, I wasn't, but I believe you. And, I mean, look, she's the first woman to become Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. I mean, a truly historic politician. So this is nothing personal against Nantie Pelosi. I have tremendous respect for her. I mean, look, she knows a lot more about politics than I do. I'm very new to this whole thing.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Well, first of all, I agree with you that she has been a very effective leader, and most people say that Obamacare would not have been passed without her.

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  19. No, in fact, I promise that I wouldn't run because I wanted people to know that I wasn't doing this to advance my own career.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Well, look, let me start by saying that I'm not trying to be a maverick for the sake of being a maverick. I'm just trying to do what's right. And when I stuck my neck out in a rock and disagreed with some of my fellow officers and told generals when I think thought things were screwed up and not going well, even though that wasn't the party line, I was just doing what I thought was right. And when I broke with tradition from my classmates at Harvard and joined the military, I wasn't trying to prove anything really. I thought I was just trying to do what was right. I mean, maybe there's part of me that was trying to prove that I was up to it, to myself, but I was just trying to do what was right. And, you know, in the house right now, I think it's time for new leadership. And in fact, I'm concerned that if we don't get some new leadership, it's going to be hard for Democrats to start winning again. I mean, the definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. Let me ask you.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Been re elected since then. He did have some, but I never ran on those. Literally never brought it up once during the campaign. But it was a tough district, actually. It's Massachusetts, but our Republican governor won the district by 13 points. It was on the front line list, so a top targeted district by the Republicans. And the polling just before the primary showed that if the incumbent had beat me in the primary, if he beaten me in the primary, he would have lost to the Republican the general election. So after I won the primary, it was a tough general election fight as well, but I ultimately prevailed, and I'm proud to represent the people of Massachusetts now in Congress.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. And you know, he didn't convince me then because, as I said, I went back, went to business school, took a job in Texas. But maybe in the long run, he did convince me because I thought back to that conversation. I thought back to what Corporal Castro said to me. And ultimately, I decided to run and I ran against an incumbent who I just thought wasn't doing a great job. He'd been there for 18 years, had only passed one bill in 18 years. And I was able to beat him in a tough primary. Actually, was the only Democrat in the country to beat an incumbent in the House primary that year in 2014.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. Yeah, so I decided not to run then, but I kept listening to what she said and I explored the possibility and decided to run in 2014 fundamentally just because I believed that, you know, if people aren't willing to challenge the establishment, things are never going to get better. And I thought back to a time in 2004, in the middle of Iraq, when a young marine in my platoon said, You know, sir, you ought to run for Congress some day so that this shit doesn't happen again.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Who's a city year alumna? She started an organization called New Politics, and she's trying to recruit service veterans to run for office at a time when we've never had fewer veterans in Congress in our nation's history. So she called me when I was down in Texas and she said, You ought to run for Congress. And I said, that's, what are you talking about? I'm living in Texas. It's crazy. She says, no, you should come back to your home district in Massachusetts and think about running. Well, I said no. I said no a few times. But she's a very persistent lady, and she got me to give it a shot. She initially called me in 2012, that may be what you're remembering. I didn't get into the race then. Yes.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. While it wasn't quite as simple as that, I did. You lost? No, no, I didn't lose, but I went to business school, and then every aspiring Massachusetts politician, I took a job in Dallas, Texas. So going into politics is not what I plan to do. And I have a lot of respect for people in politics, respect for what you do, David, but it just wasn't interesting to me. I had never studied in school or worked on a campaign or anything like that. But when I was down in Dallas, I got a phone call from a woman named Emily Cherniak.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. Well, I was just saying that it's a problem having a president in the Oval Office who's fundamentally not trusted, not trusted by our allies to stand by them, and not trusted by our enemies because as he infamously said, I'm sending an armada to North Korea. It turns out it's head in the opposite direction. I mean, this is fundamentally a man who can't speak the truth and therefore someone who can't keep promises.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. Well, it's a great example of how Russia is our enemy, not our friend, and it's why we should be pressuring Russia not allowing them to hack our elections, frankly. But this is why having a leader in the Oval Office who is respected by people around the globe, who's not the laughing stock of dictators in Russia or China or wherever else, but is someone who can actually be trusted, both when it means standing up to our enemies and also standing by our allies.

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  28. I don't know, but it's deadly serious, and we have a commander in chief who's wild and erratic and irresponsible, has had a lot of bluster, but I think ultimately all that bluster is a blunder and it could get us into some real deep trouble. This is a very difficult situation because there's no military solution, and any military commander will tell you that, that if we try to take out North Korea's missiles, they're going to launch an artillery barrage on the south that will kill hundreds of thousands of South Koreans and tens of thousands of Americans who are living in and around Seoul. That's not acceptable. So it's another place where we should have is a much stronger diplomatic effort than military effort. We have to keep up the military pressure, sure, of course we do. And we've got to make sure our defenses are strong.

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  29. It becomes more difficult, but look frankly, Iran is doing what we should be doing. They're providing the kind of political support, although in their case it's pretty insidious because I think they want to see the Iraqi government fail. But they're providing that kind of political support that we knew we needed to provide, that we built this embassy to enable. And so this is why when President Trump is cutting the State Department by 30% and yet sending thousands of troops into Iraq and Afghanistan, he's getting it exactly wrong.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. Need to have diplomatic support around the globe. And you know what? It saves American lives. Because if we get the politics right in Iraq and help them stand up a government that can be self-sufficient, that's the only way we really go.

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  31. No, and this is the key question because I'm afraid we're about to make the exact same mistake. And that three or four years from now we'll see ISIS 2.0 come in, the next terrorist group, just like ISIS followed Al Qaeda. ISIS was in many ways Al Qaeda two point zero. And we're going to be back in the same place where we're sending young Americans back to refight the same battles that guys like I helped win a decade ago. And so the point is not that we need more and more military commitment to Iraq, but that we've got to provide political support. It's why the State Department is so important. I may be a Marine Corps veteran, an infantry officer, but you won't find a bigger advocate for the State Department than me.

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  32. At a time when we knew they needed that political support, we should have had a robust State Department effort and we didn't.

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. And look, it involved the same kind of mentorship and support to the Iraqi government as we were providing to the Iraqi troops because they needed it because they hadn't had a democracy before because there are all these tribal pressures and other things making it difficult for them to have a democratic representative government like the Iraqi people I think actually wanted and the polling supports that. The problem with polling out of Iraq wasn't just that we'd pulled the troops back because actually militarily we were in a pretty good situation after the surge. The problem is that we knew they needed this political support. We built the largest U.S. embassy in the world in Baghdad. And then we left it half full. We pulled out these advisors from the ministry, the people who were keeping the prime minister in check. And look, I wish we had a bunch of Iraqi politicians who didn't need that kind of guidance and support, but the reality is that they needed it. And so rather than just pulling out the truth,

    2017-09-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 173 - Rep. Seth Moulton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. Correct. So General Petraeus worked so closely with Ambassador Crocker, the ambassador, the US ambassador at the time. And they understood that any military strategy is really just there to support a political strategy. And during the surge, when they worked so closely together, I think we knew that.

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  35. That's probably true but is not the main point. The main point is that we needed to have political support for rebuilding the Iraqi government. And when General Petraeus was pushing...

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  36. Have respect for the fact that he's not perfect. None of us are, but he owned responsibility for the mistake. He's worked hard to make up for it. And I hope he'll serve the country again.

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  37. And that's a tough thing as a leader. What I was always most scared of as a platoon commander was not that. Marines in my platoon would get killed, per se, but that I would make a mistake that led to Marines and my platoon getting killed. That'd be the hardest thing to live with. And In the same way, I think that for Betraeus, the stakes aren't quite as high as having someone killed, but he has to live with this mistake. And everybody who looks to him, including myself, is one of the people who looks up to him as a leader now has that coloring the experience. But I'll tell you, when I look at General Petraeus today, I regret that he made that mistake too, but I still have tremendous respect for him as a leader.

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  38. Who had a clearance and who was a military officer herself? I mean, I think in some ways that piece is overplayed. There's no question. It's a mistake. He's owned it. He's taken responsibility for it.

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  39. Real test of leadership is to be able to get through that. Being a leader is not doing the right thing when it's convenient or easy or everybody else is doing it. Just like having courage is not having no fear. It's dealing with your fear.

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  40. I do I do because he's not only a great military leader, he's the best boss I've ever had. And that's because we looked to him as a leader and he took care of us. He took care of me as a lowly lieutenant, even though he was in charge of over 100,000 troops in this war. But I worked for him and he took care of me and my team. When that happened, when it was revealed that he was having this affair, I mean, everybody who worked for him, we got in touch with each other, and we were all completely shocked. No one expected that. But seeing him go through this and deal with it is a reminder that nobody's perfect. God knows I'm not perfect, and I've made plenty of mistakes in my life. And

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  41. It's a seniority system, right? And I came to Congress and I said, look, I want to be as humble as I can possibly be. I would go around to everybody and ask them for advice, and I still do. I talk to colleagues all the time and say, That comes before any seniority system, and I'm not just going to sit quietly while things are screwed up. And if Congress isn't doing a good job and serving the people of my district or the country well, then I'm not going to try to change it.

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  42. Very well. Not very well Some people appreciated it and said, hey, let's work with this guy Molten because he's got a direct line to the general. And I have some great friends from that experience who, like a captain of a special forces team that we worked with and lived with who got a lot done because we were great partners and we had a direct connection to Petraeus. But then there were a lot of other people who resented it. And I see the same thing in Congress today because Congress, especially in the Democratic Caucus, is this very seniority-based hierarchical organization that a lot of times promotes people just because they've been around for a long time, not because they're necessarily doing a good job.

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  43. Kind of embraced you. That's right. I mean, he's been a maverick too, and he's been someone who realizes that a lot of times the military bureaucracy is its own worst enemy. And so you have to go outside of it. And he had me come and work for him as a second lieutenant working directly for a three-star general and then as a capital.

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  44. You know, a general called me that once. He called me in and chewed my ass, as we say, for a few minutes, and he said, you know, Molten, you're a cowboy, you're a goddamn cowboy. And I walked out and I looked at my friend Alex, who was my teammate, and I said, I think I just got a compliment. But not everybody looks at it that way. You know, I think the military is a very...

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  45. Sure, I think that's fair. My kindergarten teacher apparently told my mother that Seth has very high standards for himself. The problem is that he has those same standards for him. The other kids as well. But listen, I'm far from perfect. I've gotten myself into a fair bit of trouble over the years.

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  46. After 23 hours of surgery and losing parts of different organs, he made it through. So, I mean, I'd seen a few things. But that was just one story I share about how you go through an experience like that, and it affects the rest of your life. And you think about that, and you think about sometimes I think when I just feel like I'm having a lazy day, sometimes that experience will come back to me and I say, you know, Seth, work a little harder.

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  47. No, we'd seen stuff during the evasion. I mean, I had another Marine. It was terribly, terribly wounded in the invasion. They thought he would die, but he.

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  48. You know, he was in the adjacent platoon to mine, so I've let Have that conversation, but I knew when we were in a tight company. And I obviously felt very guilty about it. And There is nothing I could do in a practical sense, but But these are life-changing experiences.

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  49. And he'd been shot in the neck, and the saddest thing about it is that because all these tombstones are above ground, they're sticking up. The marine just ten feet to his right and the other marine ten feet to his left, you couldn't see him, and so he died alone. He died alone while I was taking a break. And that's something that I've always lived with, and I think it's part of why some people say I work too hard or whatever, but, you know, that's my experience with taking a break is that some young 18-year-old kid died when I might have been there to at least hold his hand. And so it's an example of why being in a situation.

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  50. We lost a few in my company, several wounded in my platoon. And those are life-changing events. There was a Was a particularly difficult time when I I guess the second day and had been brutally hot. I was up all night, barely slept at all, and we marched into the cemetery and scorching heat 120, 130 degrees, no water, no food, low on ammunition. And at one point we stopped our advance. And for perhaps the first time I took a break, and I sat down for a few minutes behind a tombstone and opened my flak vest a little bit so that I could get a little bit of fresh air. And then I said, okay, I got to go back to work. And the first thing I did is I went up and checked the lines. And when I did, I found him arained

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