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Shara Ticku

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“Is in fact very fragile and perhaps will not suit the next 30 years. So I think there's a lot of tailwinds moving which could make change actually very, very rapid in this space.”
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“You also see retailers like Walmart and Whole Foods taking really serious action, holding their suppliers, brands that make your favorite peanut butter, accountable for palm oil explicitly. So we've got legislation, we've got retailers taking action on palm oil. There is a lot of supply chain risk as we've seen in the past couple of years Russia's invasion of Ukraine has really dried up supply of sunflower oil. And Indonesia last year decided to ban exports of palm oil. They make 60% of the world's palm oil supply. And overnight they said, we're going to stop exporting it. We're just going to keep it for ourselves. And this has caused a lot of stress among these big consumer products companies as they're realizing something that they've taken for granted, these agricultural supply chains, this palm oil supply chain, this abundant supply.”
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“That's right. And we have quite a few tailwinds working in our direction. When we started this company in 2018, the IPCC report wasn't out. Climate tech was not a word that people were using. The world was pretty different. Today, as you mentioned, the EU has passed this landmark legislation, which we sort of called it the deforestation ban.”
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“So we're in some beauty products. We're in our beauty product today. By the end of this year, we'll be in a handful of other personal care products, so think skincare and body care products, on other brands featuring Palmless as the sort of innovator. And within two years or so, we will be able to be in food products.”
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“You demonstrate that by making money. But I think the big question is, as is true with most businesses, profitability or growth, right? I think we could run to profitability actually pretty quickly here with not a lot of additional capital. If we want to really think about the global vegetable oil industry is going to be almost a trillion dollars by 2050. So if we want to really try to chase the big market, it will take a lot more capital and time. And we're at an interesting sort of fork in the road where that's a big question that we're asking and that we're thinking about.”
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“Think there's a big question here. So historically, companies like ours, and when I first started the business, I was looking at the companies that had sort of grown up ahead of us. And they raise a lot of money and they take a lot of time. Most of the time, over a billion dollars, right? Yeah. Billion $2 billion, and they take over 10 years to get revenue in a way that feels meaningful, much less profitable. And I think we chose to solve this problem by building a business. And, you know, I think we look at climate change as a market failure. We look at the palm oil problem as a market failure. And yet we chose to solve the problem through the lens of a for-profit company based on innovation. And fundamentally, it's because we actually believe the best way to solve this problem is to make a better alternative.”
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“It is, but it depends on which market. And so because it's used in so many different markets, they pay different prices. And so we've still got a way to go on cost.”
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“What they tell us is we actually don't have the oil profile that we want from the existing vegetable oils. We want something which can function like X, but existing vegetable oils or animal fats, existing vegetable oils can't do it and we can't use animal fats because consumers don't want it. What they like about what we're doing is we have this platform where we can tweak the profile of the oil to actually be more uniquely suited for their needs, better performing than what natural vegetable oils have produced. And so in many ways there are ways to create new products that are better than what exist from a performance perspective. And that's one of the biggest opportunities here.”
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“It's this really important functional ingredient, but it's generally pretty neutral. And so we can enable that core functionality. And there are other sort of parts of it. Essentially, we don't have that sort of consumer preference part that's attached to it. It's more neutral. At the same time, I actually think that's one of the biggest opportunities that we have. And when we talk to, for example, large food companies.”
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“So, what I'll say first is you absolutely have to perform as good or better to win in this market. That's true for plant-based burgers. It's true for alternatives to pasta. It's true for palm oil. What I love about working on the palm oil problem is, you know, it's not a burger. It's not meat.”
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“And that's really why we exist. And so for now, we're focused on that. We are paying attention to the market to consumers saying they like what we've got. There's something unique and differentiated here. And it's not off the table. But for now, we've got a pipeline of all of our dream customers that came in zero marketing dollars spent aside from launching this product. And that's where we want to focus.”
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“We have, and one of the things that happened with this launch was we had about 100 brands fill up our pipeline. Wow. So we currently have basically every major consumer packaged good company”
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“It's not. And it's part of the reason we haven't necessarily launched a full fledged consumer brand. That being said, we launched this product. We spent $0 advertising it, and it sold out in three hours. And it was a limited launch. It wasn't meant to be sort of a revenue driver. Yeah. But it was an interesting experiment that we ran where consumers loved it. A lot of the people that bought the product were brand managers and owners at our customers. So our customers bought it. And the media loved it. And so the brand that we launched it under, which is called Palmless, really resonated”
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“Save the effing rainforest nourishing oil. And we sort of, it's a nourishing oil for skin, for hair, and for instigating change. And so we launched it with this sort of big, bold protest to the industry, basically saying time is up. Everybody's made these commitments about palm oil, but you haven't done anything because there's been no alternative. Now there is. It's time to take action. So that was a really important part of that strategy. It's a part of our brand DNA where we're here to shake things up, right? We're not here to just plug into existing. Ecosystems, we're here to say let's change, let's move faster. And then the second was demonstrating to our customers how the product works. It was really introducing the ingredient and the product for the first time.”
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“I think there were two big reasons why we made the decision to launch our own product. The first was impact. Just get a product out there, get our brand out there, and sort of, you know, dominate the headlines. And we did that. And the product that we launched was sort of modeled in the vein of a protest poster. And we gave it this sort of cheeky name, which has a curse word, but it has butterflies and a tree in it.”
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“And slow, and the cost and the margin of products are quite low. And then when we looked at the beauty and personal care industry and also the home care industry, it's still massive. It's a massive opportunity. It's five to seven billion dollars for palm oil. And it's full of innovation, really fast RD sales cycles, and it's a profitable industry. So it became really clear that this was an opportunity to get a product into the market quickly, which can be a challenge with science-based businesses. It takes so long to get your product into market. And we wanted to get something quick. And as soon as we started talking to customers in the space, they were so excited to take what we had and bring it to market.”
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“But I think there were a few holes in that that we saw. And again, I think fundamentally, we were looking at what we're doing and recognizing that what we're doing is pretty radical. It's pretty ambitious and it's pretty hard. We've created a new technology. We're competing against these massive global players and we have a lot to prove. And so we really wanted to pursue a strategy of bringing this technology to market that was going to set the company up to succeed. How do we, what is our best chance at making this business successful at scale? And when we looked at food, there were a bunch of roadblocks, hurdles. There's along regulatory pipeline for getting your product approved for use in the food system or green lighted to get in the food system. The customers in the food industry are highly risk averse.”
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“Actually, the personal care sort of applications for palm oil is actually a smaller market opportunity. Food is the bigger market. And so conventional logic would tell you, go chase the big market.”
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“And we spent all summer working to be able to create enough oil to hold in a bottle that looked big enough. We started having some challenges because like I mentioned, we were scrappy at the time and we were just having problems in the lab and we just couldn't get the process to work. And one of our early partners, he brewed beer at home. We were having so much trouble in the lab. We ran over to his house and we started using his at-home beer fermenter. Outside on the porch of his house, and we made what we called porch feast. And so we just threw it in there and crossed our fingers. And sure enough, it worked. We made enough oil, got up on stage for two minutes, held it up, and gave our pitch. And in about two weeks, we were able to raise $4 million to get the company started.”
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“Yep. And we're tackling a massive industry. So we've got to be able to grow something pretty big. So when we get into White Combinator, we need to raise some money on the back of it because at this point we just had a few thousand dollars. And so we had to prove why someone should give us money to go chase this. And so one of the really important things was for us to be able to sort of stand on stage on demo day. You have two minutes to talk about your company and say something compelling. And so we needed to be able to produce material amount of oil to show up and say, this is palm oil, but it doesn't come from trees. It comes from yeast. It comes from these bioreactors.”
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“That's right. I think there's a lot of big buyers, they've all made this commitment to stop using conflict palm oil, but they haven't been able to. And so we exist to serve that need. And in the meantime can become a very large company, multi-billion dollar company can have a massive impact on net zero emissions by reducing or removing hundreds of millions or perhaps a billion tons of CO2 emissions per year and the best way to do that is really by working with these existing global brands to help them solve this problem.”
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“Yeah, C16 is a 16 carbon fatty acid called palmitic acid. And it's one of the major components of palm oil. And it's one of the main reasons that palm oil is so good at its performance. So not the best sort of consumer brand name, but spot on for our customers, right? Our customers knew exactly what we do. And it was actually quite effective in that way.”
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“So our process today, we can start, we call it a production run, and in six days we can extract oil. That's orders of magnitude faster than what it looks like for palm oil today, which is on the order of years from planting a tree to being able to extract oil.”
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“Pretty quickly, we realized there was something interesting here, probably within, you know, the order of a few months. And like I mentioned, we had just $1,000 on it. Wow. It took us much longer to be able to make something cool at meaningful scale, but pretty quickly we started to see that there was something worth pursuing.”
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“It's similar, the difference is we actually found a yeast which was doing all the hard work. So the yeast was naturally making an oil. Like we wanted to. So instead of sort of finding the DNA responsible for producing oil in the oil palm tree and then importing that and genetically inserting it into a yeast, we actually found a yeast which could naturally make the oil that we wanted. And we've worked with it. We've used sort of the tools of biotech to improve that. But we found a yeast which was sort of the workhorse for us. It was doing a lot of the hard work.”
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“Yep. And it's fermentation fundamentally. And so in the early days, we did work with conventional equipment. And it wasn't right. But, you know, we got a fermentation tank from a beer brewing company. And we got a lot of our ingredients from the sort of local beer brewing company. And that was a way when we didn't have much money, we could start sort of doing scrappy science to get some basic proof of concepts to see that there was something worth pursuing here.”
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“There was a yeast strain that we eventually sort of down selected as a really compelling option. And when we started to look at that, we realized, okay, perhaps we could make an oil, which has got all of the properties of palm oil. Perhaps we could make it at scale. This is interesting. And at this point, we only had about $1,000. So we were pretty limited in resources, but we started doing some early trials and some early R&Ds, and we could make only a few milliliters of oil. But sure enough, it looked like palm oil.”
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“So we looked to science, but we also looked to nature. So using microorganisms like yeast and algae and bacteria, that's been used for decades at this point to make products like insulin, to make flavors like artificial vanilla. And what we had started looking at was in nature, perhaps there are these organisms which are actually doing the work for us. You know, we want to use biotechnology as part of this, but nature herself is a scientist. And so we looked out into the natural universe and we started finding a group of microorganisms which were naturally oil producing. And so they'd actually evolved for centuries to make oil, just like the oil palm tree had evolved to make oil.”
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“It's been attempted and it comes with really good intentions, but the reality is it's really hard to confirm that the palm oil in your product has been grown sustainably. And it just comes down to these very complicated supply chains where if you are buying a bag of potato chips, it's nearly impossible to trace that palm oil and confirm if it came from land which did or didn't engage in deforestation. So palm oil can absolutely be produced sustainably. Most of it is not, less than 20% of it is, and it's really been capped at that amount. And it's really hard to have confidence if it has been produced sustainably.”
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“So next, we realized if it's not agriculture, you've got to think sort of radically different. And remembering that the palm oil itself is great. So getting a product which can look and function like palm oil, that's great. But how could we produce it differently? And watching what was happening with the impossible burger was an inspiration for us. And so we sort of said, okay, if that's an oils today come from animals and plants, what about the fungal kingdom? What about microorganisms like yeast and algae and bacteria? Could we use those to make an oil which looks and functions like palm oil, but with the supply chain that's more scalable, more sustainable, more predictable that uses the sort of concept of biomanufacturing instead of agriculture? And that's where we got started.”
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“Correct, some of the largest consumer products companies in the world had made these commitments. But every one of them was failing because there was no viable alternative. And we first started to sort of look at agriculture and say, could you switch to another product? Could you switch from palm to soybean? Could you produce that more sustainably? And it became very, very clear that there was no existing viable alternative and that agriculture couldn't solve the problem. But there was this clear demand statement from the biggest buyers of palm oil. And that seemed like a problem we could solve. And it seemed like a problem worth solving.”
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“But it's a massive industry. It was a $60 billion industry palm oil alone in 2016 when we met. It's everywhere. And perhaps most interestingly, there was a really clearly articulated problem statement or demand statement. When we started looking at this problem, there were over 200 large consumer products companies, and there were nine countries which had made public commitments to their stakeholders that they were going to stop using this conflict palm oil, which engaged in deforestation.”
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“Yes, I think it really started with that firsthand experience where Harry and I had both seen firsthand the massive destruction that was being caused. And it was being caused to produce a vegetable oil. And it just felt insane that we were continuing in this way. And as we looked into it, we realized a few things that were quite interesting. And at this point, we're not interested in being entrepreneurs, by the way. We're just, you know, we're just digging in.”
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“Everywhere around the world, pretty much. And so to meet this growing demand, growers have been slashing and burning tropical rainforest, burning both the trees and the peatland, which is full of carbon. That emits billions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions into the air, which is problem number one. It results in the killing directly or indirectly of the wildlife that lives there because these rainforests are massive biodiversity hotspots. And it displaces the indigenous communities which are in that land and it contaminates both the air, as I mentioned from my experience in Singapore and the water because as the land is converted from these tropical forests into industrial agriculture, you've got massive amounts of fertilizer going into the water.”
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“And so as this demand for palm oil has exploded, the industry has had to find new ways to produce more of it. And so to do that, they need to find this land around the equator. And when you look around the equator, that is the densest concentration of primary forest that we have on Earth.”
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“Yeah, it fundamentally comes down to the way that the tree has grown. It can only grow within about five to ten degrees of the equator.”
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“Demand for a product like that has really, really grown, especially in food products, because it's just so good at what it does. If you tried to stop using palm oil, you couldn't. Because if you used soybean, for example, the product performance would be totally different. And no company wants to do that. And no customer wants that”
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“It's efficient, it's productive, so we can make a lot of it. But the reason that it has grown so explosively and will continue to grow over the next 30 years really comes down to the performance of palm oil as compared to other vegetable oils. And without getting into chemistry class, essentially it's got this profile, which is This profile of fatty acids, which gives it a melting profile, which enables things like chocolate to melt in your mouth and not in your hands. And so the fatty acid profile of palm oil is broader than any other vegetable oil, and it's unique because it's sort of half saturated and half unsaturated fats. And you just can't replicate that with any other fat and oil. And over the last few years,”
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“That's right. And that's what's so interesting about palm oil. It's the most popular vegetable oil in the world for a reason. It's actually really good at driving critical function in all of those products. It makes color retain on lipstick. It enables surfactants and laundry detergent to actually clean your clothes. It helps keep peanut butter or nutella really spread and really smooth and really shelf stable. And it's not bad. It's a natural product. The only problem is the way that it's made.”
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“It is in 50% of products on supermarket shelves. And like you said, every person touches it every day, including me who tries not to. But it's ubiquitous. And it is in everything from soaps and shampoos to lipstick and laundry detergent to most of the foods that you find at the grocery store, from peanut butter to cookies to frozen pizzas.”
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“And so, you know, here there is this sort of plant-based burger that's using biotechnology to make a plant-based burger better, taste more like meat. And it's launched with a Michelin stars chef. And we thought that was the coolest thing in the world. So a few weeks later, Harry had gone on a trip to Costa Rica and he'd gone with some friends from grad school. And when they're down in Costa Rica, they went to go check out the rainforest. And as they sort of show up, it's basically gone. There is no rainforest in the place that they've been looking And in its place, they had found these massive industrial, agricultural oil palm plantations. And Harry had come back from Costa Rica and told us this story, and it instantly triggered deja vu for me from that trip to Singapore a few years prior.”
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“David Heller, who was an undergrad at MIT, studying bioengineering. And we became fast friends over the launch of the Impossible Burger. So the month that we met, which was in the fall of 2016, the very first impossible burger had just launched at Momofuku in New York.”
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“Yes, that is absolutely right. And I think like many people, I sort of saw this shocking thing happen. I was surprised, I was confused, but then I just went on with my life. And so a few years later, I was getting my MBA because I was interested in this sort of little sliver of why there's so much innovation in academic research labs, particularly in biology, that doesn't get commercialized and what levers could we pull to improve it? And I became friends with two people, Harry McNamara, who was getting his PhD at Harvard in physics and really sort of studying this field called synthetic biology.”
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“Right. So my colleagues in Singapore started educating me and said, Oh, you know, our neighbors in Indonesia and Malaysia, essentially they're burning forest. They're clearing tropical rainforest to convert that land into oil palm plantations to make this vegetable oil called palm oil. And the way that the winds were blowing that year were blowing the smoke heavily into Singapore. And they were sort of bearing the brunt of the consequences. So it's one of these things where you see this action, which generally. Know the cost of emitting carbon dioxide emissions, those frequently go unaccounted for. But here they were having this very, very tangible cost on the health of people in Singapore.”
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“They did, and they weren't happy about it. I mean, I think they were deeply upset about it. When I was there. The government had closed schools and had advised pregnant women to basically not leave the house, not to walk outside. So people weren't happy about it in Singapore, but they were certainly used to it. It was something that felt inevitable and like the normal course of a given year.”
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“And I was confused. And I started asking my co workers what was going on. And they sort of, you know, shrugged and said, oh, it's burning season for palm oil. And that was the first time I'd ever heard about palm oil.”
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“As soon as I landed in Singapore, I understood why. The air was black. And I quickly learned the air quality index was over 400. And anything over 150 is dangerous and over 300 is toxic.”
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