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  1. But that song, and she watches Channel Zero and 911's a joke, those three songs were the beginning of political curiosity. An idea that you would have something retrain how you think was really powerful to me. Remember, you're talking about a young man who was stood in front of a Jamaican grandmother and a Jamaican mother who were orchestrating my understanding of the world and the idea that, oh my gosh, my peer group, people in America affecting what I think was really important to me. Fast forward 20-odd years, 30-odd years now, they were right. They were so right. Our children's outlook on the world is so fundamentally changed by social media. I actually think we need to start to worry about it.

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  2. Watch Sands. I can tell you what it's about. Channel Zero is about consumerism and all those things piling on top of you.

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  3. Because of the lyrics, the lyrics are highly political. I could sing one to you. You know, one said, I got a letter from the government the other day. I opened it and read it. It said they were suckers. And I just needed to know what that meant. And I remember going to numerous adults saying, what does this mean? And I had lots of different explanations and that was so great for me because I expected one explanation, got several, and that's when I realized politics is a debate. That's when I realized I'll always debate rather than just take a position. I remember my uncle saying to me, he's quite left-leaning, he's definitely a Labour voter. And I remember saying to someone, I know that people in the Labour Party on left are decent because one of my favorite people in the world is a Labour voter. So I'm always prepared to reach out and have that conversation with decent people no matter where they are.

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  4. Yes, because when you're a young boy, so I grew up in London, just to give you the description. I grew up in a place where music was really powerful for us. We had no money at all. We were so poor, but you could listen to the radio. You could make mixtapes. Music was at the heart of it. I'm never going to the Nottenall Carnival because my granddad and my family used to have a store there and that's when I first started hearing public education. and public enemy was the first time I ever paid attention to politics. Because of the lyrics.

    2018-11-02 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Shaun Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. What's it going to do with that? Because the access we get to jobs, to training, how involved we are in the growing prosperity of London is really important to those communities and sometimes it looks like we have this middle class, highly educated, European in a broadest sense doing really, really well. What about the rest of us? And what's really interesting is that is a conversation that cuts across race, colour and creed. There's a large group of Londoners who are just not connected and I wanted to show some solidarity with them. I'm not a rabid Brexiteer. I know we need a deal and want one as well. But I voted that way for me a personal sense of solidarity with the communities who are expressing the fact that they feel left behind.

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  6. Because I voted for the welfare of the poorest communities in London, I've never even viewed it in those terms. What I know is this.

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  7. I think that's part of the mythos of London that we are overwhelmingly in favour of it. More people voted for Brexit than voted for Sadiq. But the thing is this in London, sorry, in London, to be clear. I voted for Brexit because I come from a poor community that feels abandoned. And what's interesting for me, I've lived in West and East London now, and in that community, completely different racial mix, but completely same conclusions they're being left out. One of my driving ambitions in London is to make sure all communities have access to the success of London.

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  8. Should hold on to that, and that was a point of wisdom from Imam, I say, that was. When someone gives you a nugget, that was a real nugget of gold for me.

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  9. A concorically tell you right now that won't be happening. That's not who I am. I wouldn't know how to do that. I wouldn't want to do that. And for me, it'd break my personal ethos. I remember somebody challenging me about what I wrote and she was quite upset and I accepted it and we spoke. And she was surprised when I gave her the potted history of Sean. And she effectively said to me, so you started your youth group because of your Muslim community. Yes. I don't have a racist bone for a black person who's grown up in London. I was born and raised here. To be racist is just ridiculous. And to attack people's faith, what's happened to me in the past 13 years, I've gained the faith of my own, which lets me know how important it is to people. So I simply wouldn't attack it. And I spoke to Imam once and he says something really powerful to me. He said to me, well, we're all of the book. And he basically said, there's the three religions of the book. And that we have many, many more things in common than we have points of difference.

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  10. Huge levels of abuse they fought was well, that's the way it is going to be now. I don't think we should accept that. Good people are staying out of politics. I had to say to one very left-wing journalist, you've written at length about people from poor backgrounds coming into public life. The minute one comes into public life, you jump on me, you cast me the particular light. How many people do you think from my background are going to have a perfectly ordered world? You know, how many people are going to have had some kind of goings on that you could make hay with because exactly what you're doing now? I'm not from the political class. I'm trying my best to join it so I can get something done for communities across London. But you can't have your cake and 82, which is it? Do you really want us involved? If you so, you're going to have to support us. If you don't say so.

    2018-11-02 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Shaun Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. But the real disappointing thing I'd say about that is I had a conversation with some young people and they think that's the new norm. That's what I don't like because actually isn't it shouldn't be normalized.

    2018-11-02 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Shaun Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Absolutely. I don't know if I want to, but you know, I've had, if you went on my Twitter account, if you saw newspaper stuff that's been written about me, Token Geta Boy, you know, MPs piling in behind that or trying to defend that comment have, I mean, it happens to me all the time, but what's really unfortunate is...

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  13. Listen, that's definitely true, and I've had it from MPs. I've had it from random activists, people along the way, but for every racial attack I've had, I've probably had 50 people say you go, I keep telling you about my mystic Rusta man. I wish I could remember his name. But he said to me, he couldn't be a Tory because of his history and what went on, but he absolutely celebrates the fact that he thinks that I think I can be. He basically said to me, that's what I was fighting for, the right for our children to be anywhere.

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  14. I worry about that deeply because what's the logical conclusion that? And also, all those years ago, when I say those things in that very rough, raw, unsophisticated way, I think in some way, that's what I was worried about. I want Britain to go together forward to solve things, for instance, we talk about the housing crisis. I want to be able to have that conversation with people on the left and the right. I don't hold myself as being particularly partisan. And that's why I always wanted to say to people, whereas our commonality.

    2018-11-02 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Shaun Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. I certainly for me am focused on what brings us together, what makes the same where we agree. I think our cultures, particularly if you're an immigrant community, is very important to you. It's a part of your identifier. But I was trying to say we must also try to fix a broader culture that we're all part of. If you're like me and at the time as running a job club and also running an anti-gang program, I was so, so desperate to get those young people away from people who are twisting their mindset so desperate. And I didn't want any distraction because the distractions that were provided to them from all over society meant that I couldn't get through to them and I was desperate to move them from my gang program into my work program.

    2018-11-02 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Shaun Bailey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Actually, I was talking about days of education, and at the time, people were talking about multiculturalism in a very different way to talk to you now because I remember having a conversation with a Ruster man I know, and he's very political. And he said to me, look, Sean, the reason I can't support multiculturalism is because they use the word tolerance. I don't want to be tolerated. I want to be accepted and loved. And that really resonated with me. And that's why I started the youth work and got involved in my Muslim community so deeply, because I wanted to say to community, we are people first and I want to be involved with you.

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  17. I tell you why I apologize because I was here's how I put it to someone what were you doing 13 years ago I like I said early on was dodging punches from drug dealers dealing with people who trying to make themselves even more vulnerable so the council would house them etc and I was trying to avoid that the reason I apologize is because a I know how daily people hold their faith and I use very raw rough language which didn't quite express what I was trying to say and I didn't want to cause hurt then and don't want to cause hurt now But what I was trying to do is write to career politicians. It was a police. I am much, much, much more focused on what makes us the same. Hence, I made the comment early on about even if I'm black, white, Muslim, gay, straight, still a person, still worring how I'm going to feed my kids, how am I going to get to work? Can I afford to live in this place? And I wanted to talk about those issues more. I was actually trying to talk about days off school and I expressed myself poorly. And that's why I have no.

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  18. I think that's Theresa May's faith is a very personal thing to her. Mine certainly is to me. I think for me it's just let help to me learn to be a bit more humble. When I was younger I wrote and said things from a place of real anger or need in action which I probably wouldn't do now. A, I've been in politics long enough to develop a level of sophistication and B, I hope I'm developing as a person and faith is part of that.

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  19. I think now for communities in London it's about okay I'm of a particular race particular religion whatever how do I connect to the mainstream how do I go forward how do people talk about me the tough things about my existence without it being partisan and being extremist and how do people talk about me beyond the fact that I might be black beyond the fact that I might be Muslim whatever happens I'm still a person and I want to have that conversation as well

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  20. I don't think so. Change is the amount of oxygen we're all having to provide to Brexit. I look forward to getting back to the domestic agenda because that's what really excites me. I don't think anything's changed. I think what has happened though, there's a new playfield. Maybe there is a change. And let me accept that. There is a change. There's a new playing field and I actually think it's a good thing. I think we'll be able to have deeper, more meaningful conversations about what is tough. The left have definitely owned the race issue and in some ways they have done the work and they deserve that. They've represented people

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  21. People listening, you may not know. I was once special advisor to a Prime Minister, one David Cameron. I would have pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed to go there. I think where Theresa May has been good, she apologized. And what you find in politics now, people seem to find it impossible to apologize. I guarantee anybody listening, if I bubble up any further along in politics, you will hear an apology or two from me. I think it's a good thing for our public discourse to have apology in here every now and then.

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  22. When I watch people talk about Grenfield, what I remember and correlate to my past is the lack of trust. That's the strong thing, the lack of trust of anything to do with the establishment. And that's what Grenfell always invokes me.

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  23. I'd ask people listening to this, have you been in a tow block? Have you lived that life? And I go back to my point of you come into public life and you have a particular thing. You might be into defence or foreign policy or, I don't know, buses. I'm into people. I carry my conservative tag lightly. It means a lot to me, but it doesn't drive my politics. What drives my politics is people prospering. And that's why when you talk about Adelida been into a block or not, I ask people listening, have you been in a blog or not? Have you experienced on a long-term basis how those people lived? The one thing that really...

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  24. We should always be trying to represent the weakest, but I think where I differ from many people on the left is, I don't want to represent them and just tell their story. I want to support them to come out away from that story, make the story the story they want it to be. I'm pretty sure if you spoke to people in and around Grenfield, they'll tell you they want their children to do the best they can. And I want to be part of helping that happen

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  25. So, if I'm going to talk about Grenfell Tower, I think everybody needs to be careful because of the community that is there now and going through it. Yes, I come from that wider community, but I'm not going through it in the same way that they are. But I will start by saying when I was younger and I went to school literally in a shadow Grenville Tower, Grenville Tower seemed like home to me. It was a place that provided people like me and my family with a home. You know, that's how people looked at Grenfell Tower. You felt lucky to be housed. When I look at it now, I see a group of people.

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  26. But they may well be doing, they may well be doing. But the point is, it's on both sides of the benches. What I've noticed recently, it's very popular to have a poor background. If someone asked me if I wanted my children to have a poor background, the first and only answer is no. But I happen to come from one. But now I begin to challenge people, okay, you came from a poor background. I commend you deeply for getting away from that. But what did you do for that community? This goes back to my mum's thing about the wider version of family. My mum always says, family is family, but community is a larger family.

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  27. Concerned with my race. That was less of an issue for them. I think sometimes when I dealt with middle class people in the sort of, you know, how do you define class, they were much more aware of what my experiences might have been and therefore treated me differently. And sometimes there was this idea of is he this token kid who's really rough that we'll have to watch about? Then there was other times where people are saying, is he just, I don't know, is he Oxbridge and has got up and got out from where he was and he now has given us a story from the end of the road. I think what was a surprise for everybody was there's a big difference from growing up in a poor community and leaving and growing up in a poor community and staying. So when people compare me to your classic career politician who's come from a poor place, the difference is they left. I didn't. Let's be honest.

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  28. That's a slightly different scenario, and we'll come to that. But my initial conversation with the Cameron bunch and stuff was quite easy. They're all Londoners or young, hip and cosmopolitan. So that was fine. What I did find was very bizarrely. The posture of the person, and I don't know how you measure posture, there's a whole podcast in that, isn't there? But they seem to be less.

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  29. This is unfortunately Popper Punch's throne kicks people being jerked across the floor, etc. But... I remember then going to a meeting actually in Westminster. Tufton Street, actually. I remember thinking this is bizarre, really, really bizarre. These people are now asking me questions about policy and about what it's like to be where I am and this, that and the other. And I've just been having a fight. Do you know what I mean?

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  30. It felt odd in certain ways because I was raw. You know, I was a youth worker, so there was a series of meetings and things I went to, and one in particular, I just come away from having a fist fight with a drug dealer. So a drug dealer was just basically wouldn't leave this particular set of kids alone. I went to ask him, come on, friend, jog on. He attacked me, I had to defend myself.

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  31. Put it in a few words for you independence, resolve, resilience, ambition, self-belief, self-drive and self-respect. Youth work for me was a combination of those things at any one time. I did youth work in a very, very poor place with very poor communities. And I only say that in a financial sense what was great about the community I lived in was I'm Westlander from Laborgrove, very diverse, lots of Portuguese, Spanish, West Indians, latterly Moroccans and some Somalians, big mix there and that was a good decent mix. We respected and got on very well and those communities are strong in levels of love but where I thought we were slightly weak was understanding how we were going to advocate for our children, how we were going to move them forward. And I try to deploy not only the sort of technical skill of a youth worker finding out, getting jobs or whatever, but also the emotional space of we must

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  32. Not even just better, different. My mother grew up in Jamaica and then came here. You see certain things. My mum was very aware that I was going to be in a country, a Western country, with a whole different take on life and I needed to learn that.

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  33. But I'm talking about my mum not just in the sense of that warm parental feeling, but also that calculated, deliberate understanding of what would make her son, her children's lives broader by affecting my level of motivation.

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  34. Understand that experience, and I think David was lucky he's in a great place because one of the things that's differentiated me from the political classes is being I wasn't one of those young children who had great academic prowess who could then go on. My academic prowess came to me later and that's a feature of my politics I'm trying to advocate for children who don't have that first obvious out. Education is a great thing and I'd push any young child to go that way but what happens if you don't have that so for me things like Army cadets and gymnastics were mind-blowing so the furthest I made with Army cadets was to Germany that was later on I think I was 70 or 18 but with gymnastics I had been to France and Germany and I cannot tell you what a big experience that was for me it was such an experience for me that's why people say to me you know why do you all talk about mum we all love our mums

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  35. It was because if you come from an immigrant community, most immigrant communities are very strong, very strong. And for me, you want to be plugged into what's going on in Britain. So you need a time to learn how British people think and what are the avenues through life. I remember growing up, I wasn't aware that I could join a British Army if I wanted to. I remember had people spoken to me about university cadets was the first time I had ever heard about university, not school. So those kind of things were happening in Army cadets. Silly things like if you come from a working class family now, you can still go on holiday in Britain because you know where to go. When I grew up, I'd never heard of, I don't know, skegginess. These are things that I was picking up from cadets. And then your family has a broader outlook of what it is to be British because you're spending some time in British circles as well.

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  36. I mean, I joined a Connect unit that was in White City, and my cousin had brought me there, and there was quite a good racial mix there, actually, a very good racial mix. But I think that's a reflection of where we were.

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  37. Not entirely true Miami Connect unit was in White City, you know, 204 cadets, Paris, loved it deeply. I'm technically still a member of the Army Cadet Force. I'm Honorary Colonel. But at the time.

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  38. That's right, which is true, especially when I grew up, because we spent much more time out because it was, quite frankly, it was safer than it is now. And my mother realised that, especially when you're young, she was my best chance at building up a resilience in me and interest in different things, a respect for her and her values rather than values that are being sold to me on the street. So my mum tried very early on and very hard to pull me in particular directions.

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  39. My mum was trying to keep me away from particular groups of children. Much of what I've written has come out of a place of where I was at the time. So I was a youth worker at the time making the points in those ways. Where I came from, those very few children who weren't black. And I think the point I was trying to make, my mother was trying to make is there are strong, very negative influences in this community. I will not let my son be dragged down.

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  40. To the point of bankruptcy on her part. I mean, my mum paid for me to join a gymnastics club. I joined the Army cadets. Those two things in particular hugely influential on my life outcomes. But behind all of that was my mother's desire to just see me safe, to just see me prosper

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  41. Oh, I mean, anybody who has a Jamaican mother would attest to this. I have a friend called Tej who obviously has an Indian mother. He says she's pretty much the same. But it's that immigrant spirit and my family made the jump to get involved, to contribute a bit, and that meant working. That meant getting involved. And, you know, as a young person growing up in West London, there was a lot of sometimes negative distractions. My mum thought tooth and nail against that.

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  42. Definitely no. There was no epiphany. There was no explosion, there was no right. Let's get that blue rose and hit the streets. That moment never happened. But what happened was for people who know me, I come from a very poor background and an even poorer community. And I mean poor in the broadest sense, poor, financially poor, you know, we were having poor social outcomes. And I wanted to know how that was going to change.

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  43. My Windrush roots, my immigrant roots, isn't it? So small sea conservative family, church, you know, self-reliance, responsibility. My grandmother often used to talk about dynasty. She's working for my mother who's working for us who I should be working for my children, those kind of things. But for me, I wanted my community to be beyond welfare. I wanted us to be a strong community financially, socially, spiritually in every way. And for me, the small C Tory that the conservatism in the broadest sense that talked about, you know, having some responsibility for the people around you in your community, working that community, working for and with your family, that's what attracted me to the Tory Party.

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  44. I think it's funny because obviously I speak to much younger people who are my age rather than my mother's age. And one of them said to me, but it was a Labour MP who came up with the term hostile environment. And another one said to me, but it's a conservative government have acted it out. I actually think it's a societal thing. We were having conversations over the Brexit term before, during and after about community, size of community, where immigration is coming from. Lots of people from non-European backgrounds are saying we feel held out, we have a relationship as country dating back centuries, how comes we're not being viewed the same. There was a lot of, I'm going to use the word RGB about immigration, hostile environments, but I don't think we ever spoke about it enough. It wasn't brought out in terms of how it affects particular communities. And then the whole windrush thing bought it to a point and put a real laser-like focus on what has happened and what are we going to do about it.

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  45. Yeah, and it was appalling then. It's still appalling now. We need to speed up. Of course, Sajid has done great things about this, made great strides forward. And those who watch politics are involved will know from a government point of view, this is about as quick as a government can go. But we need to make sure that we press on this so the community believes it. It's one thing the government knowing it's doing well. The community have to believe it.

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  46. Because if you were in our community and some South Asian communities had this conversation as well, you've known that there was a, where's your paperwork? You better get your paperwork. How come you've been here so long? I didn't think I needed paperwork. All those conversations have been going on for years. But my mother said to me, the first case she was aware of was in 2002, which was obviously a long time ago. And she was like, why wasn't something done then? You've all failed. You know, the whole political class has failed. You should have done something about it.

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  47. It's definitely pain there. Obviously, people rushed over. Sean, you're of this group of people. You've often spoken about your background. You always talk about your mother. She must have a view on this. And of course, there's pain there. But when I spoke to my mother, she said to me, but let's be clear, Sean, this has been coming for years. I don't hold the Tories responsible or Labour responsible. I hold you all responsible. This is the problem for the police.

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  48. Technically, that's not correct because I'm too young for that. She was referring to my grandparents and my connection to that. Absolutely, I'm proud to be seen in that way because that is one of the big moments for my community. My parents are of Jamaican extraction. That is one of the big moments for us. That's one of our identifiers. We proudly carried out. Certainly I do. So I was happy to be described in that way.

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  49. A series of meetings and things I went to, and one in particular I'd just come away from having a fist fight with a drug dealer. So a drug dealer was just basically wouldn't leave this particular set of kids alone. I went to ask him, come on, friend, jog on. He attacked me, I had to defend myself.

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