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Shefali Luthra

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“My feeling is that the answer may vary based on where the voters are and what conditions they're facing in their particular state. So in a place like Arizona, like Mary Joe said, where in 1864 law that many voters see is very draconian and is beyond the position even of many voters who would call themselves pro-life, a state like Arizona, it might be the top issue. In another state where there's not an abortion ballot initiative or it hasn't been as salient of an issue for voters, it might be something else. It might be the economy. It might be immigration. And a lot of that is going to be up to the candidates and the parties to see how effectively they can message around these issues and what they put front and center in voters' minds.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Long time GOP control of our legislature, it might flip a couple of congressional seats. And, you know, I mean, Trump's against the doesn't like the 1864 ban as well. So I'm not quite sure how that would play up at the top of the ballot. But abortion will be high on people's minds along with immigration, but at this point, probably immigration would be a bit secondary.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At this very moment, subject to change, though, is probably abortion because if your choice is an almost total abortion ban with prison as a penalty for providers, I think that's just a bridge too far for many voters in the 21st century. And we will have the citizen initiative on most likely on the ballot and a campaign that will keep reminding people about that. And yes, I agree. We've got lots of other issues, the economy and immigration chief among them that will play into voters' decisions. But I do think that we're going to be hearing a lot about abortion for the next six and a half months until Election Day. And that could tip the balance. Certainly, it has a very strong possibility of chipping the balance in our long control.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I think some do and some don't. And Pew has interesting data on the religious nuns in ONES, which would include ex-vangelicals in some cases. And that group generally is kind of averse to institutions, to churches, but not necessarily to spirituality or to belief in God. You know, I think it'll be interesting to see if anybody can kind of harness this big, big shift away from church that we're seeing with particularly the younger generations.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's interesting that I titled my book The Exvangelicals because I think it's sort of encapsulates this idea of being part of something and then Leaving it. But, you know, I talk to people who fit a range of descriptions post evangelical, former evangelical, progressive evangelical. And I think you're right. Many of them feel that the current expression of the white evangelical political movement doesn't align with their values, including their religious values. And many of them cite things like the way their churches talk about women and LGBTQ people as a reason that that label doesn't work for them anymore.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Challenge, I think, for Democrats, you might want to mobilize some of these people who are disaffiliating from religion in large numbers in this country, is that they're much less politically engaged. You know, white evangelicals are a shrinking part of the population. White Christians are in general. They used to be dominant and their numbers are declining. But they're very politically engaged and white evangelicals in particular are overwhelmingly supportive of Republicans and of Donald Trump. It doesn't appear that there's a corresponding political movement that mirrors that.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As far as ex evangelicals go, it's kind of a newer movement, it's a term that emerged really around the beginning of the Trump era as a lot of journalists, including myself, were writing stories about evangelicals and their relationship to Trump. Of course, evangelicals are such a critical part of the Republican base. And the ex-vangelicals I've talked to, some of them feel like that label doesn't work for them for a lot of different reasons. It's not just about Trump, but generally if you look at data on people who disaffiliate from religion in general, and this would, I think, include evangelicals, they're more progressive than not, but the”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With the IRS over it. And this was an issue that the moral majority in groups like it were able to begin to use to mobilize white Christian voters around. Now, prior to this time, as you say, evangelicals, Southern Baptists had a much softer position on abortion. It was seen as more of a Catholic issue. But we have seen today we see that white evangelicals are the group, the religious group that are expressed the most opposition to abortion rights, even more than Roman Catholics.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it became a central issue for the religious right really because of the work of the moral majority. The change happened around the time of the pivot from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan, you know, Jimmy Carter wasn't even evangelical. And that was kind of the moment when the shift started to happen. Jerry Falwell, Sr. and others worked to mobilize mostly white evangelical Christian voters around a range of issues. People think of abortion and abortion was certainly a big one. But a lot of this arguably was kicked off by a fight between conservative Christian institutions, including Bob Jones University and others over integration. There was a Supreme Court decision in the early 70s that essentially required these institutions to integrate if they wanted to retain their nonprofit tax status. Bob Jones University officials didn't want to do that and got into fighting.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's been interesting to see both Carrie Lake and Donald Trump sort of pivot on their abortion messaging. And I think it's a reflection of the larger challenge the Republican Party is facing this November because of the backlash to the Dobbs decision that we've seen from voters in the past couple of years, both lake when it comes to talking about the Arizona law and former President Trump on the topic of abortion generally have been kind of all over the place at times. Again, this is, I think, because Republicans recognize that this doesn't appear to be a winning issue for them. These candidates need to appeal to the base. They need to turn out their base voters, many of whom would like to see more restrictions on abortion.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so mesoprostol is actually part of the typical, the most common protocol that's prescribed for medication abortion. So typically myphopostone is used in combination with mesoprostol. That is the sort of gold standard. the protocol that was approved by the FDA more than two decades ago. However, mesoprostyl alone is an option. It's one that is endorsed by the World Health Organization, and essentially that approach involves taking more mesoprostal than you would if you were using Mifopristone as well. But there are downsides to that approach. There can be more bleeding, more cramping. Often the procedure, the experience is more painful and a little less predictable is what doctors have told me for the patient.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very likely to come before a federal judge named Judge Kazmeric who has a history of anti-abortion conservative Christian right advocacy and who was appointed by former President Trump. It did indeed come before him. He sided with them initially before the case, as I said, wound its way through the legal system. So depending on where the court comes down, it could cut off access to abortion pills through telehealth.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, it's really an issue in this Supreme Court case is access to abortion pills through the mail and through telehealth. The lawsuit was brought by a coalition of anti-abortion groups that included some medical providers who are opposed to abortion rights. And they claim that they've been harmed by having to provide care to women who may be dealing with bleeding or other side effects of abortion pills. And their argument is that the FDA improperly approved Mifiprostone more than 20 years ago, and they've also objected to some subsequent changes from the Biden administration that had eased access to the pill. You know, there was a long series of court battles and litigation, and it all kind of went back and forth through the legal system until ultimately ending up, as you say, before the Supreme Court. It's important to note, too, that this group strategically filed a lawsuit in Texas in a jurisdiction where they knew the case was”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From another state, but also childcare. So some of them talked to me a couple years ago about adding playrooms, waiting rooms where families could spend time if they had no other option. So it just complicates the whole process. And while abortion is on the whole a very safe procedure, it's safer earlier in pregnancy. So for the patient. So that's another factor.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's interesting for a couple of reasons. I mean, one, if you look at polling on American public opinion on abortion, most Americans support access in some situations and support some restrictions. And the later you go into pregnancy, the more people oppose abortion. So it is, there is an irony there that people are actually being pushed to a later stage of pregnancy by these laws. Now, for the people who experience those delays, it can increase the cost. The farther along a person is in a pregnancy, the more expensive and complex the procedure will be. Not to mention the difficulties of getting there. I've talked to abortion providers in states like Illinois that have talked about having women with young children that they don't have childcare for struggling to try to get not just the time off of work and not just the money together to pay for the procedure and to travel to come get the procedure.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, resourced, and even now to this day, you know, they are under immense pressure. They face threats of violence. They see weeks-long wait times for a very time-sensitive medical need. And what it tells us is that access to care is just much, much, much more difficult whether you live in a state with an abortion ban or without and when laws like Florida doesn't.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For your book, Undue Burden, which is out in May. Explain how Dobbs has upended healthcare access not only in states with abortion restrictions, but even in states that have expanded abortion rights. It's really tremendous what people are going through right now in their efforts to access abortion. Sarah mentioned the abortion pill and travel. And when I speak to people before the Dobbs decision and after, they are traveling tremendous distances to access care. I have met people who have traveled from Texas to New Mexico, Texas to California, Florida, which has a six-week ban that will take effect on May 1st has been one of the homes to the largest increases of abortion in the country. And that's because it was until very recently and will be for just a little bit more time the most permissive state in the South. And what that tells us is that people are going to tremendous lengths to access care. They are putting intense strains on these abortion clinics that haven't ever been very”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Counterintuitive for a lot of people because in about half the country, abortion is significantly restricted, and there are a lot of states where it's not available at all. You know, there are probably a couple of reasons for that. For one thing, there's been a lot of coverage of how people can get access now, get around, not necessarily get around those laws, but find a way to get access despite those laws that often includes traveling. We've seen abortion funds really increase their activism and fundraising to try to get people from one state to another. And of course, you can't talk about access without talking about the abortion pill, which is now the most common way that people in the United States get abortions, more than half of abortions are with medication abortion, not in a clinic. And, you know, medication is a lot harder to regulate and restrict, although anti-abortion activists are really trying. So Shafala, you talked to countless people who are trying to access abortion care just before and then after the Dobbs decision.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We've got a lot of knowledge on this call, a health reporter who covers abortion, a national politics reporter who focuses on divisive issues like abortion, and a political reporter with decades of experience in Arizona, ground zero right now for the abortion debate. We're going to start by talking about the practical implications of Dobbs, then we'll zoom into Arizona and see how things are playing out there, and we'll end by discussing how the abortion issues affecting national politics, because it certainly is. Or maybe it's not. Some people don't agree. Sarah, there were approximately 1,25,000 abortions in the U.S. last year, roughly a 10% increase over 2020. That's probably not what anti-abortion activists had in mind when they pushed to overturn Rowe. Talk about what explains the increase in abortions despite reduced access across much of the South and about half the country, really. Yeah, that data was so fascinating. And I think”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the host of The Gaggle, an Arizona politics podcast. She's been reporting from Arizona for decades and is a must read for anyone interested in Arizona politics. Our question today comes from Sarah Longwell, a Republican strategist, founder of Republican voters against Trump, publisher of the bulwark, and host of The Focus Group podcast. I'll talk with Sheffali, Sarah, and Mary Joe after a quick break.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ruling, it's important to look at how the overturning of Roe v. Wade is affecting healthcare across this country, even in states that have protected abortion access. So in order to have a smart, nuanced conversation, imagine that, I've invited three veteran journalists on the podcast. Shafali Luthra has been covering healthcare for the last decade. She's currently on the abortion beat for the nineteenth, and her book, Undue Burden, Life and Death Decisions in Post Ro America comes out in May. Sarah McCamon is a national political correspondent for NPR and the co host of the NPR Politics Podcast. Her reporting focuses on what divides us and not just at NPR. In other words, issues like abortion and religion. She's the author of Exvangelicals, Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church. And Mary Joe Pitzel is a senior state government reporter for the Arizona Republic.”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months, or $180 or $12 month plan required, $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 GBR is busy. C terms. Hi everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher. Today we're talking about abortion politics, arguably the third rail of American society. Few issues inspire as much passion or heated rhetoric, and even fewer have the potential to swing both the presidential election and races up and down the ballot all across the country. And right now, no state in America illustrates just how off the rails our abortion politics have gone better than Arizona. Their state Supreme Court recently revived in eighteen sixty four abortion ban that's so draconian that even election denying, MAGA loving, former candidate for governor and current candidate for Senate Carey Lake is doing her best to disavow it. Carrie, it's not working. But while the electoral implications of our tortured abortion politics are potentially massive and important understanding, as we get closer to the two-year anniversary of the”
2024-04-22 · On with Kara Swisher · Is the Fight Over Abortion Rights Enough to Beat Trump? with Shefali Luthra, Sarah McCammon and Mary Jo Pitzl · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT