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“In me to want to do to put my whole life and my family and everybody through something like that, if I wasn't really sure I wanted to be president.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll always, you can't make a decision like that and not look back with some wistfulness as what might have been. But I spent the first two months of the year. I just come off a really hard race. Ohio winning as a Democrat in Ohio is expensive and hard and it's a two-year campaign. I was tired, but that's really got nothing to do with it. I launched this dignity of work tour or went to the four states and I talked to people like you and people that had been through it and could console me and give me some really good wisdom about it. And after two months of it, I just decided I didn't really want to do what you got to do to be elected president. I saw how arduous and hard and it took me off. It would mean I wouldn't be much of a senator for two years because I would be out all the time raising money, making speeches. And I love the Senate. And it's not a fallback position. It was something I love to do. But I just didn't have it.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a big, big tax cut for some rich people who are paying in part for the richest someone in my office gave me a chart, the one-tenth of 1% richest people in this country will get a $200,000 tax cut if the court does that because we had paid for the ACA in part through tax on capital gains for really upper income people. Yeah, it will be chaotic. Right now in Ohio, five, and I was talking to Senator Casey yesterday. I think he said 6 million in Pennsylvania, five or six million people in each state have a pre-existing condition. That was pre-pandemic. And imagine what it's going to be like now if people lose those protections. And Republicans, it's almost humorous, but Republicans and their states are saying they're going to keep the consumer protections for pre-existing conditions. Well, they're not because they're trying to get this repealed. Trump is trying to take away the consumer protectionists from pre-existing addition.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe I hear what you said earlier that there's so much on Biden's plate that I don't know. I don't know if this rises because I haven't heard as much talk about it in this campaign and I don't hear quite as much about it at home. Maybe it's because of the pandemic. Maybe other reasons. And I think that, I mean, certainly by the third year of Joe Biden or even the second year, I could see doing something major in drug prices.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of the reason we did it was because every time we went, we saved 40 people, hundreds or even a few thousand dollars, people that were struggling. But we also hope that would bring so much light on it that how stupid is this a member congress goes the drugs made in the U.S. often sold to the Canadian pharmacy and the American gets 70% off. I mean, how insane is that? Why don't we just do it right? That didn't go. I thought enough people would start doing that. It would build the pressure. The drug companies, they rival what tobacco used to be in Congress and their power, and they rival NRA power. I mean, there are a few companies, groups of companies that few industries that are as powerful as they. We just don't do it.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We had a drugstore there, and they all had their prescriptions with them. We checked all that. There was a doctor at that drugstore that signed, that co-signed them that was Canadian, if I remember right. And the drugs were the same names. They might have a different, I mean, they were the same drugs. And they might have been in French in some cases. Some of the boxes, but they were, and people saved 60, 70, 80 percent of their drugs.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What kind of politicians What we found that one of the things that I worked on legislatively was the veterans administration negotiated directly with the drug company and EA pays about 40, in those days, 40% for their drugs of what others would pay in the United States. And I understood that Canada did the same thing. Canada used its 30 million people as bargaining power directly with drug companies, many of which were US-based, but all drug companies. And as a result, drugs in Canada were 50, 60, 70, 80 percent less. And someone told me that you could buy them in Canada. So we actually organize, and it's a little weird for a member of Congress to organize a trip of people to go to other country and buy something, but we would, it was a two-hour bus drive from Cleveland to the border, a little more than that, from Lorraine, where we lived, and we crossed the border in Detroit, Windsor.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All the time, and I mean, Trump Trump tries to take advantage of it, but offers nothing substantive. The trips to Canada, and I didn't really pioneer it, I perhaps did more of it than anybody else was doing at the time, but it wasn't initially my idea. But I appreciate.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Biden's voting record would not suggest that, but I think he is. And I like so much what he's doing about dignity of work and talking about jobs. He understands that tax system encourages movement offshore. I think you'll want to fix that.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there absolutely is a gnome. And then I think that the voters have always been suspicious of how this has all come down. The question is, do the policymakers think we can continue to milk this cow and do okay for themselves? When I say policymakers, I mean corporate leaders and their elected officials who do their bidding, which is a large number of senators and house members, can they keep doing this? So far there are signs they think they can. But the power of these interest groups in Washington is still pretty great, as you know. It's greater with Mitch McConnell there. But I do think there is now a template with Brown Wyden to do trade in a different way. But it's got to come with domestic change in terms of wages and taxes and the way we do incentives in our domestic economy.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What has started this pandemic earlier than we did and probably done something? So I always want more engagement. I think we should be in the World Trade Organization. I wanted the... The climate, the Paris Climate Accords. Of course, I want to be part of that. The Iran agreement, all those things that Obama and others have done. But with trade, we finally wrote a trade agreement that I thought made sense. And Trump put out his NAFTA renegotiation, which was just another corporate giveaway trade agreement. It did really nothing to make much change. And Ron Wyden, the formerly more of a free trader than I is the senior Democrat on the finance committee, he and I did the Brown Wyden rewrite of that bill that puts workers in the environment first in our trade agreements. And I mean, I want to trade more, but I want to see us lift living standards in both countries in our trade agreements who've done little to lift living standards in the developing world and done much to diminish our living standards in this country.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I believe there should be engagement in the world, and I've always been an internationalist starting from my studies in college to now that we should engage. We should step up our involvement in the World Health Organization, Trump close the off an office that Obama had opened, a global health security console, whatever they called a directorate or office in the West.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it must have. I mean, I saw what bad trade policies did. But to me, it was all part of, I don't blame China or Mexico for our trade deficits and for our jobs going there. I blame U.S. American corporate leaders who lobbied Congress for bad trade agreements and tax laws that encourage those companies to go. You shut down production in Mansfield, Ohio, or Chicago, Illinois, and you go to China, you get a tax break, you get cheaper wages, you get weak environmental laws, you get little enforcement of worker safety rules, but politicians went along with that, and weak politicians went along with that in my mind. So to me, it was just another exertion. Our trade policy was another exertion of corporate special interest policy that helped the rich at the expense of Workers in Mansfield and Toledo and Cleveland and Akron.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nobody's asked me that. I haven't thought of that. My wife has a decent job now. But I made that promise thinking that we were going to do health care. That was 1992 election and Gengrid took over in 94 and it wasn't until 2011 that I actually got norm in health care again.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My memories are mostly fuzzy, partly because I want them to be perhaps because it was. Had a good time in my life. I went to Ohio State. I went to teach at Ohio State to work in a project. I had been a Russian studies major in college and Ohio State hired me to help them do the transition. This was the early 90s in Poland from their civics classes to change from Marxist limbis courses to democracy courses. If you want to help them train teachers and write curriculum so it was a good place to land. It barely paid enough to live on, but then I went back into politics soon after.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, anyway, but Taft and I have become pretty good friends. I mean, we just call talk the other day on the phone and he teaches at the University of Dayton, and I talk to his class every year. It's the only election I've lost, and he's a pretty decent man that I lost.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was no brown that was really big. I mean, there's one secondary year, they just were a number of them, like in Cleveland, in Chicago's like this too. I think in Cleveland, if you run for judge and your name's Corrigan or Gallagher. Or here's another one. I'm just slipping my mind. You have a really good chance to win.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Those days are sort of lost. I mean, there were no other No, I benefited from that. There were a number of people named Brown, more Republican than Democrat, a few Democrats.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and Taft. And I probably, I don't know, I probably wouldn't have lost if I'd run against a guy named Axelrod, but who knows?”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The loss was obviously very hard. Plus, I had just gone through a divorce and have had at that point two small children who are now in their. Late 30s, and so it was really hard. I lost to a guy named Robert Taft.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't exactly make the career decision then. It was like okay, I'm 21. Why not? And if I lose, I lose. And I didn't have much, I didn't have much to lose and a lot to gain. And then once you start, the career decision kind of comes with it. And I like legislating. I like public service. I like getting out and doing these things.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't really care a lot about making a lot of money. I was very involved when I was in college on political campaigns and environmental movement stuff and anti-war stuff and the Democratic chairman called me up and said we need a candidate. And Rhett, he told me later he didn't think I was going to win, but I could lose and then run for something local later. He didn't present it that way, of course. I didn't”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and so there were probably a dozen house members that year, mostly Democrats, a couple not, that were under 30. And so there was a group of people. It wasn't, I didn't stand out that much. I was on the young end of that, but there were a bunch of people that kind of looked like me. And there were a few African Americans, only a couple women, but it was the beginning of, it was the beginning of let's try something new, I think”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Overwhelmingly guys, probably six or seven women. I don't really remember a lot, but there was a group of, it was 1974 and 1974 was a year when a whole lot of new people all over the country got elected, a huge class in Congress of people that...”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not anymore, but that's neither here nor there. The Democratic, I worked, my mom wasn't actually an active Democrat at that point. She became an active Democrat. She was involved. She was head of the YWCA, which is, you know, next to the Urban League and the NACP is sort of the longest lasting pro-civil rights, pro women's rights group out there, at least certainly among them. And that was her activism. Then when I ran for office, the Democratic County Chair I knew from working in the McGovern campaign. And then my dad, I mean, my mom and dad got more involved then. And that's how that happened that year, but it was sort of a long shot. And sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know too much. The good thing about that fundraiser is I just cordoned off an area of the dining hall and people's daddies or mommies had already paid for their meals, so there was no overhead. And I just started the dollar.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was mostly that guy baseball a little less that guy, but basketball was absolutely that guy, but still was it was a good something I look back on fondly.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The unionization levels have declined commensurately. So there is no question that joining a union means better wages and better benefits. I mean, there's no question about that. And I think most voters, most people, polls show, most people would like to join a union if they had a chance. But it's the laws. When I asked Joe Biden in a meeting of contributors, so it was mostly wealthy people, not unions there. And I said, what are you going to do for workers? And he said, first thing minimum wage, second thing is the pro-act of protecting our right to organize, to build a level playing field for unions to organize.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Politicians that wanted to put the union movement out of business. I mean, you know, in those 30 years ago, there were a lot of Republicans that were pretty supportive of the union movement. I mean, it wasn't their thing, but they weren't resistant the way they are now. And there's almost no Republicans and House or Senate that are particularly pro-Union. But you can look, David, as you know, you can trace over any period of time, particularly since the 70s, you can look at profits, you can look at productivity, you can look at executive compensation, and then you can look at wages. And wages are flat. Yeah, yeah, right”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“See a reigniting putting it back together, if implicit in your question, William get back up to 1950s, early 60s levels of unionization. I mean, the economy doesn't really lend itself to that even if you have these anti-union consultants and corporations.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's when I started reading books like Christ in Concrete, Fiction, especially fiction about unions and working class issues. My wife just finished her book. Her dad was an utility worker. Her mom was a home care worker, non-union or mom. But she saw what working class kids go through when a doctor's kid gets some trouble. Usually you can fix it when a working class kid gets in trouble. The family connections or money often can't. And that's really kind of the story of the stories I heard in those union halls and the story my wife wrote about in her novel.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But soon after I went to the legislature in my early 20s, I used to when the legislature was out of sessions on Fridays, I would often go to the steelworkers or the UAW hall. And I would just kind of hang around. Workers were coming in and out and talking to them and learn about their lives. And I had gone to school with many of their children because there was one big public high school in Mansfield. But I didn't know their lives very well. And that's when I... First”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On justice and social justice, what also formed it, my views on labor? Because my parents weren't union members. They were not particularly pro-union or anti-union, but they liked what Dr. King said in King talk so much, as you know, interrelating worker rights and civil rights. I mean, look where he was killed and what he was doing.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My dad was a physician, but my dad was a never wanted to join the country club kind of physician. So my mom, as Hugo Black, as I, in the book I wrote about this, Hugo Black might like my mom was a child of the segregated Southborn in 1920. She always cared about civil rights. It was in her very much the core of her and my politics really came from her more than anything. She told me once during all the controversy on busing in the 1960s and 70s when I was a teenager, she said, yeah, we used to have busing in the south. They used to bus black kids in a rickety old school bus past the nice new white school and put them in an inferior school with used textbooks if they got textbooks at all. My dad was a doctor who treated lots of patients that couldn't pay. They really form my views.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And even within states, I mean, I was talking to Senator Casey in Pennsylvania, the numbers I recall, he said 67 counties in Pennsylvania. He only won 19 of them, and he won by 12, 13, 14 points. In Ohio out of 88 counties, I won 16. He won the metro counties. You win a few others for various reasons. And that's the way politics has become the dominance.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“when you increasingly, when the public increasingly understands that small rural states have such power in the U.S. Senate, when the Constitution was written, there was nothing like the ratio of the number of people in California, the number of people in Wyoming.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That on there certainly will be a push for DC statehood The house already passed DC statehood. What about Puerto Rico? I think there are”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Four, five of the Republican nominees, four of Yore and Clinton's nominees, of Obama's and Clinton's nominees. And there are really consequential issues on voting rights, on corporate power. And that's not the way to govern. Should they have to be 63 or 7.2 so that the justices talk to each other as juries do and figure out what's best for this country? Instead, the ideologically one bird off a telephone, why are they all fly off? And they get a 5-4 vote making corporate America more powerful and squeezing voting rights out of our communities.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't talk about it. I think, first of all, my answer, if you had said you support packing the courts, I would have said, well, that's what McConnell's been doing for years through the whole court system, which he has. I think there are options. I think that I'm reading, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm reading a number of legal articles about when you have a jury trial and you're charged with some crime, it's got to be a unanimous verdict. It's not a 7-5 verdict that puts you in prison or 7-5, you know, and so we need to, a number of constitutional scholars have looked at where the court should have jurisdiction. All that is decided by Congress. Is it good for democracy that we've had as Senator Whitehouse, really the expert on the Supreme Court in the Senate? Senator Whitehouse pointed out we've had 80 decisions in our file.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That natural conservatism resistance. Emerson said history is a fight between the innovators and the conservators and the conservators today's conservatives won a whole privilege close to them, hold on to their privilege and wealth and power. And that's sort of the dying breaths of this Republican regime. And all they got now is the courts to do it.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can't legislate from the bench. I'm a strict constructionist. That's their only way to win is to legislate from the bench and to use the filibuster to block things, to legislate from the bench, to, I mean, so much of the structure of our country, of our government was a deal with plantation owners in the 1780s and 90s and 50 of the first 75 years of the country's existence had southern plantation owners, slave owners as president. And that influence is still felt in the electoral college and in the Senate and all the things we do that way.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's right. I think if that hadn't happened, it would be a very different discussion now, correct? I also think the Republicans now, as you know, David, they can't win things democratically small deal war. They know that since 2006, more people, more voters have voted for Democrat Senate in the aggregate around the country every single election except 2014. We win the popular vote consistently. We'll win the popular vote this time by 5 million or if these poll numbers are close by. Double that or more. They don't win going through the Democratic process. They all my life, all your life, you've heard Republicans say.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think he realizes he can be a consequential president. I think what's changed in Joe Biden more than anything is he realizes how important this next two or four years can be to American history something he really thought he was custodial. He was going to restore the country to pre-Trump. And he knows now that he needs to deal with these huge issues that this coronavirus has revealed.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think all that will help. I mean, he knows where the levers of power is. He knows how the legislative process works. He knows so many of us personally. Yeah, that can only help”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think too much. I mean, I don't think it really. I mean, I think it's not so much he knows the legislative process as he knows people. Well, I mean, I mean,”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, the Green New Deal, but I don't really know quite what that is. That's not, we will certainly engage in climate change issues. There will be disagreements. Road bread and butter help people individually one at a time and millions of them, we do that is that we sing together on that.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Reading about progressive history in the Senate. And one of the things that I've learned is when Democrats take power, we do really big things that are durable that last for decades. We do that, but this time we also have to do specific important things that people will feel. And I think every one of those things I mentioned, Bernie might want to go a little farther on Medicare. He might want to go a little farther, probably not on the child tab.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Overall, we're together as a party to do the $3,000 child tax credit. In every one of those things I mentioned, their importance are this. You remember so vividly what happened in 2010. We did so much in 2009. But by 2010, the voters didn't feel much. They saw the economy was getting better, the Affordable Care Act wasn't in effect yet. Dodd-Frank, they couldn't really tell. They didn't know what it was. This time we've got to do specific things so that if you're a voter in Portland, Maine, you think, you know, I voted for Sarah Gideon and Joe Biden. If you're a voter in Iowa, I voted for Teresa Greenfield and Joe Biden. And my life got better. My minimum wage went up. I got a child tax credit, a significant child tax credit. I can get on Medicare at 58. So I think we need to focus on what we can, we want to do, you know, when Democrats, one of the things I've done a lot of writing and research.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do, and here's why. And I look at it a little differently. A year ago, Joe Biden running for president, he expected, if he wanted, to bring us back to normalcy, back to what it was before Trump. The coronavirus and all that it's revealed, the great revealer it's revealed about racial disparities and income inequality and other things has changed by, I don't think it's moved him to the left. I think it's just he's realized he will be a very consequential president. He will be LBJ. And so I think he does big, traditionally progressive Democratic things. I think we come down together in raising the minimum wage. We are together as a party on fixing the overtime rule. We're together as a party to do Medicare at 50, 55 or 60 with a public option.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's still endorsing Susan Collins Sitting with the Secretary of Education to get her confirmed. So he's still trying to be a player.”
2020-10-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 410 — Sen. Sherrod Brown · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source