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Shonda Rhimes

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first: 2017-10-09
most recent: 2017-10-09
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“There'll be more writers out there who feel like more women writers, more women of color who feel like they have a voice.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I don't know how to look at it in other way. I like to write. I like to tell stories. I love the idea that I have learned to build businesses. I'd probably be in a cabin somewhere writing novels if I didn't have this entrepreneurial spirit, but I do. I think I would do exactly what I've done and maybe have done it faster so that there could be more of us.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am an entrepreneur. What is something that I failed at And I'm not pausing because it sounds ridiculous that I'm pausing, but I'm very fortunate in that I have gone on a path that's very different than most people's. I think in terms of trying to put together our first set of shows that weren't written by me, we made a lot of mistakes, and that's because I think power is not power. If you don't know, you have it. And I don't think I realized how much power we had in the beginning when we were sort of building the beginning of Shondaland and adding new shows that weren't written by me and me understanding how much power I had to protect the other artists that we were working with. And I learned from that really quickly. And it was a really powerful lesson to discover where my power lie and was laying and what I could do with it.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I'm a big fan of what's coming up with the newer storytellers that are out there. I'm a big fan of Atlanta. Trying to really get invested in the arts community in LA because it feels like the arts are being devastated by what's going on in Washington and that feels like an important place and that feels like where a lot of fresh storytelling comes from in the first place. So it's things like that.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“100%. You know, it actually these days is political. So, I'm going to finish up talking a little bit more about the concept of what, I know you can't talk specifically about what you're doing, but what do you like that's out there, the new stuff especially in the new media? Is there things you see every day? We just got another two minutes. What do you see that you really like?”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know that I'm more political. I think that I'm as political as I've always been. I don't think that's more or less political. And frankly, I don't think a lot of the things that I have to talk about are political. I don't think it's political to be a morally decent ethical person. That's not political”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe But that respect isn't being given to the office right now. And so to me, it's not a place, I would take it too seriously.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just not interesting to me. The rules are off. And it is a job that I would take very, very seriously And therefore, I'm a type A person, I would work really hard to do it really well. And then they all age super fast. And I feel like you get to be president and they show you the vampires in the basement and that's it for you.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Facebook has been very interesting because there's a lot of ability to do video, to have a conversation with your fans, have done live Q&As and things like that. I haven't decided if they're all going to become more useful or far less useful. There is a feeling for a lot of people that pulling away from all of those is much more comforting. Than it is to be on them. I spend a lot less time on social media than I used to. And I know that people think it's far more important. And yet I don't think it is. Everybody reports what's on social media that's important. So in a weird way, you don't have to follow it as closely as you did before when you had to be there to see what was happening in the instance. Now I can find out what Donald Trump said on Twitter just by walking around. It's everywhere.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's very hard not to. And for a while, I really used it so that if I had something to say and I had something I wanted to think about, I did not have to put out a press release or go have a long conversation in an interview, which may or may not have been helpful, but it did make me feel better.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which gave me a real insight into what we were doing basically, which is shaping their minds and shaping their thought patterns and what was okay and what wasn't. And that's awesome when you're sending people off to medical school and they're telling you they became doctors because of you. But it's not awesome when they're saying they're going to kill themselves if Calli and Arizona break up because you made them know that they were gay and it was okay. It's a problem. So there's a giant responsibility there, but it does feel useful in the sense that you can get articles out, you can get helpful information out. I push a lot of information out that's sort of just about what's going on in the world. I'm trying to get people to think politically. I push a lot of rage out about Donald Trump”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Then one day somebody said, you can't talk to me like that. I'm only 12. And I thought, how many of you guys, and we were having this big conversation, I said, how many of you guys are under 15? And they all were. And I was stunned. I was like, this is what's going on here. Because I had this theory that people were shut ins or something and they all had plenty of time on their hands. They were 12 year olds. They were kids.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, just the sort of way they would speak about people. And I would be like, don't you think that in seven years a character would change, and I would get very deeply offended? And then...”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I used to use it more as a way of talking to the people who watch the shows. That was when I discovered that a lot of the people on Twitter were 14 Years old Because I would be highly insulted by some of the things that were said, and I would get very angry and very up in arms about you.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I'm using everybody else's social platforms right now to look at that. It's very interesting to see what's been going on on Twitter and what's going on on Facebook and what's going on everywhere with the conversations that are going on about those things.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what do you imagine will bring that divisiveness? If people do all watch your show of different kinds, you can talk about that. How do you look at how these different cultural conversations are going on and splitting really dramatically?”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And especially when it feels like there's going to be a change in how that's talked about and looked at Congress is looking at how it's all working. I want to see how that plays out.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have yet to open it up to the comments. We've had a lot of talks about this. We've only been going since September 18th. So we've yet to open up all of our comments and our discussion parts because we've really been talking about how to do that and how to do it well And responsibly because it is getting worse out there, I think.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I like that they have the right to have an opinion, and I like that they have the right to say, I hate you and I hate your show and how dare you do that. And then they come back.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I'm fortunate in that we have an audience of followers that is 12 to 75 and they are interested in what we have to say and I'd like to take advantage of that in a good way and use it to draw them in and it really is about talking to all of them You know, the thing that's happening right now is we're having these cultural conversations but the conversations are happening you know”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right now, I want to see where we go. I think it'll be interesting. There is a place for small bits of content on it in terms of video content, but I don't know that that's what is interesting to me is the written word, which doesn't really have a place to exist very much anymore as we move forward”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's been interesting. As a business owner, people keep asking me, like, what's the goal? What's the goal? What's the goal? And when Hearst picked it up and started distributing them on their things, people were like, well, that was the must have been the goal. There is no goal in that sense. The goal is to give people a voice. The goal is to have a voice that's out there that feels relevant and different and available, really.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I started the website shondaland.com, which is really just a place to have articles and videos and a lot of really interesting writing going on that is a conversation. And it's not a lifestyle site. Like I always say we don't give you lifestyle on the site, we give you life. Because I'm not interested in a lifestyle site. There's not going to be a lot of beauty tips and nobody's going to tell you what color lipstick to wear. It's articles about what to do about immigration. And if you're feeling interested about almost anything that you can talk about that feels important to you is discussed on the site, which has been great. I did an interview with Billie Jean King. We're doing an interview. I'm doing an interview with Michelle Obama at some point. And what I love about it is that it is a place not just for fans of the shows, but for any of the people who sort of live in the universe of thinking about things in a much more inclusive way to enjoy themselves, to really”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did every time she would hit a bar that she felt was like, This is how people are supposed to behave, that bar would move.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is a very large topic. I do think that there are standards that people should meet, and I do know that they've done all kinds of studies that every time they're looking for people to meet standards, women of color and people of color and women in general most often meet those standards in hiring practices, mainly because they have to on a higher level to even be in the room. So it's not really about standards, it's about hiring the guy who you feel most comfortable with who looks like you.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which I have to say, one of the things I've been railing against boards up in Silicon Valley, they're all white men, essentially. And when you go to push them like, why don't they have more women on these boards, especially since 50% of the people that use the internet, it's a very diverse Internet people using the Internet. They always pull out. The word standards. Well, we have standards. And I'm always like, well, you didn't have standards when you hired those 10 idiot men who drove the company into a wall. So how that standards were missing? Well, the word standards is only brought up with women and people of color or age or something like that. There's always that word comes up. So talk about that concept of like standards. What does that mean?”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I do think making them makes a difference. I also just think there's a problem with the idea that a movie is a movie if it stars a white guy. But if it stars a woman, it's a female-driven movie. And if it stars a black person, it's a black film. Or, you know, there's something inherently ignorant about that.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I got that in your day. When you think about that idea of, I agree with you, like when Wonder Woman happened, everyone's like, I cannot believe this. And it was like, it was a good movie, right? Yeah, it was just a good movie. Still making them does make a difference, or do you not think that? I mean.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When I say it like that because I don't sit around having to think deeply like, are we including people? That doesn't have anything to do. I don't sit around thinking I better get a lot of white people, or I better get a lot of people of color, or I better get a lot of, my world doesn't work that way because I'm a person who's not included. So generally, a person who looks like me would not be included. So my world doesn't function on the matter of me having to think carefully about making sure people are included. People get included because... People get included. People of color are in my office, people who are gay or straighter in my office, people of all sexual persuasions are in my office, people of all genders are in my office. It doesn't come up in that same way because I'm not including people.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's very different than here. I mean, there's a problem here, but there's a really big problem in Silicon Valley, I think. There's work to be done, and there's work to be done here, obviously. But that just comes from giving people more opportunities and from people recognizing the problem, which is probably why a lot of journalists spend time writing about it, because they know that every time they do, maybe somebody gets an opportunity.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think the only way you change it is by continuing to create content that makes what they're saying sound stupid.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You may say that I really don't know how you fixed it for them. I don't It's an obvious fact to me that the world looks like the world looks, which is certainly not, I don't walk out in the world and see just a sea of white men. That is not how the world looks to me. And it's certainly not interesting. But they do somehow, or they believe they do. And that is how they work. Maybe it's just a bunch of all white journalists or something.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, it's always going to be that way. If you think about the fact that every time a female-driven movie comes out and it does well, there is just shock that people went to see a movie about women and they were funny or people went to see a female movie driven movie and it was an action movie and people went to see it. And oh my God, black people are on television and people are watching. It's amazing how often that happens. I really do think you should be asking the people for whom it happens because it's impossible for me to tell you what is going on in their minds.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I enjoyed it. You know, I really like talking to her because she does say what she thinks. She's very clear about where she is, you know, in terms of what she's thinking about, what's going on. And she doesn't play games. No.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, there's a lot of value in what you do. And honestly, there was a moment in time when I think I had the flu or I think it was the flu or I was on line for jury duty. And there was a true concern that an entire night of television would not go on the air. Now think about that. I had the flu or it was jury duty and the television wouldn't go on the air because I wasn't going to finish the cut or I wasn't going to figure this out or things weren't going to happen in time. It was not that time, but it was like we were going to be late for things. And I kind of sat back and thought, well, I'm definitely more valuable than I think I am. You know, that I've been thinking, and I really need to rethink this and give it some real thought.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's the first television show I ever made, so imagine the deal on the first television show you ever made. But it is, it was important to me to plant a flag and get a steak and build that up and learn. Really quickly.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I definitely think of myself as more of a businesswoman now. And I've had to simply because I've had to learn what's important and what's not in terms of not getting screwed financially. There's a lot of people in this town who don't know what the value of their work is. And I think that there's a lot of people who get screwed over easily by not knowing. And so for me, it was about figuring out what was important to me, how to grow. It's very obvious. Disney's made $2 billion, basically, as far as I'm concerned. I think that's the right number on Gray's Anatomy. I have $2 billion.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I do think that it's important to have a stake. In what you make And I think that that's been a problem since the beginning of time. The way things go and the way things have been happening. I also think that it's like the music business, the value is taken out the minute the distribution changed change and people don't remember that they need to plan a flag and say this is what we want out of things early enough because they dismiss whether or not the industry that as it changes is valuable you know people say that's never going to be of any value so they don't put it in the contracts the writers build contracts or whatever right”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't even begin to guess because honestly, 10 years ago, nobody thought this was going to happen. And five years ago, nobody thought it was going to be this big. And nobody would imagine Amazon winning an Emmy. Like all of those things feel like things that everybody said were impossible. And people are always saying things are impossible. I don't buy it.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was mutual, but I knew exactly what I was looking for, and I knew what I wanted, and I knew where I was going when I started.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we loved it. But I don't necessarily think that all story has to be told that way. There's a lot of great story that's happening on streaming that is told in very slow paces, that is beautiful. So it's just about frankly opening your mind to what Network television has rules that feel like they've been embedded in things. You have to have act breaks and they have to feel like this. And at this moment, this has to happen. And to me, it's just about people who aren't interested in the rules.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't think that people are thinking like that in terms of storytelling. I think that storytelling has evolved so much that the generation of writers that come into my offices are already thinking a much faster, much different way. It's not, and I don't necessarily call it a digital way or a non-digital way, they just have a shorter, faster attention span or something that goes to how they tell story.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do they have to think? Do you feel like you have to hire people that understand sort of a digital storytelling way or the way stories are being told? Because there is a traditional kind of mentality of writing or creating.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think really because it's the environment we look for, I don't hire anybody who in an interview can't tell me what they think is wrong with the shows or wrong with how we're doing things. If you can't tell me in an interview what you think is wrong and I know that that's not an easy thing to do, but if you can't tell me there, then you're not even going to get to the second phase of things.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The only reason I know this is because they're like always carriers so mean, and I'm like, really, I'm not. You just get licked up and down all day, so you would assume anyone that questions you. How do you get, what do you do that as a manager? Sorry. Was an”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I like people with their own opinions, and I like people who argue with me. It's very exhausting to be in a room full of people who just nod and smile or agree with you, whatever you say. It's important to have people who are absolutely willing to say you're wrong or who have a totally different perspective than you do on everything. Fresh ideas are hard to come by and good ones are even harder. And so to me, if you can have a fresh idea, if you can have a totally different perspective on something, that is interesting to me.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Only changed in the way that I, in the sense that I know how important it is to make sure that when you put stuff out there, it has your name on it. And if it does not work, Everybody blames you, and if it does work, everybody says you get the credit. And so to me, it's about making sure that somebody else gets the credit they deserve and making sure that it's good because no matter what, they're still going to blame me.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Aren't interested in going anywhere else because there's a way that we do things that doesn't necessarily correlate with the way the outside world does things, I guess. I don't know. I've never worked on anybody else's shows. But it is... A nice way of doing things giving people a home and then giving them a chance to make their own stuff is very important to me.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're brand new writers. They've never been anywhere. And so these people are sort of in house people that have come up through there. Some of them have worked for us for the entire length of the shows 12 years”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it's very interesting because people think, maybe not in the industry, but people really do seem to believe that you do everything you're doing.”
2017-10-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Why Shonda Rhimes left ABC for Netflix (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT