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Shundrawn Thomas

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“Interviewing our firm, and we have a reasonable amount of gender diversity. Not one single person on their interview schedule was a woman. I mean, Ted, you could almost throw rock in our building and not get that accident on purpose. You have to change the practices. And we would have needed to do that either way. But you understand how setting and established foundation of shared values gave the basis of which to inform why we did it. And so I think those things were important.”
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“So, one of the things that we did is both in terms of gender diversity and ethnic diversity, we set explicit expectations in terms of minimum representation on our interview panels. We also set new processes in place for the HR teams or the recruiting teams that were working with us in terms of their expectations on delivering diverse pools of candidates to our managers and then our managers' commitments to working in line with them. You know something else we did that we didn't do on the first pass. So first we looked at who we were interviewing. Then we said we also have to look at who's doing the interviewing. And it occurred to me to do that. And I asked the HR folks to pull from me over a period of time, like who that we actually had on the interview slates for the candidates who were coming in. And in two particular instances, I found, and there was no ill intent on this, but to give you an example, I found two instances where we had extraordinarily talented female candidates come in.”
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“So why don't we put in place some practices to ensure that we increase the number of diverse candidates we see? So I did that.”
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“While they're directionally affine, I noticed that we don't have a lot intentional in the process about how we think about bringing on people who share this value of passion. So let's look at the questions we ask and let's see if we don't need to be more intentional about how we prepare to interview people. Competence. Now that we've articulated very explicitly, I've noticed that we're inconsistent on how we look for or we're tests for that. And now let's get to diversity. Well, here's an interesting thing. I went through and I just looked over the results for the past year and I noticed that not only do we have very little in the way of diversity in terms of what our goals are, in terms of hiring in certain areas. But I also noticed we're not even seeing very many diverse candidates.”
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“Or not. They're just our deeply held beliefs. We don't necessarily have the same values, but we can choose to if we're part of a common culture to agree on a set of values that we'll share or we commit to. And I'm going to tell you why that was very important to the question that you asked. So we did that as part of our exercise, and I've done that before as my responsibility has grown. And within the context of asset management, there were five that we agreed on. And it was a lot had to do with what people shared in terms of their perspectives and where we wanted to go. But those values were passion, competence, intellectual curiosity, diversity, and humility. Now to your question, if I use recruiting as an example, so if we have those shared values, those values actually should inform the way we recruit. So it would make sense if then I looked at the recruiting processes and I said to our partners, hey, I've been taking a look at the processes.”
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“One of the things that with recruiting is interesting, and that's a perfect example where sometimes you have certain norms and practices that don't present the outcomes that you desire, and so you really have to have both the awareness and then the commitment to making changes. And so from a recruitment standpoint, I'll start with, if I can give you this step, right before getting to doing anything, like whether it's recruitment or training or anything like that, here's what I think is important. The first thing that I actually engaged in when I, for example, entered into my role as president of the asset management business at Northern Trust was something I did along the way at every single step I've had in an increasing leadership role, which is engage with people and dialogue, get lots of feedback, and what I like to do is identify what I refer to as shared values. We all have values, whether we expressly articulate them.”
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“When you've now come into this leadership position that you've been in for a while, I'm curious how you take those experiences and inculcate them in an organization and maybe the easiest way to walk through it is just to kind of go through some different functional areas and the things you've tried to do. So we could start with the first step, which is recruiting and how you've gone about thinking through these issues.”
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“That's not easy for many people. And I would say, I don't want to pretend to you at all, Ted, that that is in the past or even sometimes when I have to do that today easy for me. I think to your point, I think there are two things some of it is just based on who I am as a person. And not only maybe I would say kind of how I made it, but I would say what my beliefs and values are. So that drives part of why I do what I do. Because sometimes I would talk to my dad about a lot of things growing up. He would say, son, you always tell the truth. He said, it's the right thing to do and it's the easiest thing to remember. But what he would say also is truth is rewarding always in the long term. But Ted understand not necessarily in the short term. And that's one of the things you have to decide on your values if you're committed enough to the truth to tell your truth even if you think may be in the short term.”
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“If that creates or brings up certain views or perceptions based on stereotypes, it's hard for that not to be projected on you in certain ways. So it's all kind of ways that those intersect in very real and practical ways. And so what I found over time is early on in your career, it's just really challenging, right? Because you don't have enough experience or the tools of how to deal with that. Over time, at least for myself, what I found is an increasing willingness and a courage to engage in dialogue. And I realized that the only way you could begin to make progress on the relational side if you started with the dialogue.”
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“So maybe natural more common to your ethnicity if you're on the margin were more expressive. You may get a lot of feedback about telling you how you need to change that. And is it because you're not effective in communicating? Or is it because it's dissonant with the normative standard? And that's more of an innocuous example that I would give you. There are many others. There were times early on in my career where there would be, say, if you're on a training floor, you keep the TVs on, you're watching financial markets. And I can tell you I could chart my experience in life by different things that happen socially, like the OJ Simpson trial. And you'd have to imagine like the emotions that that brings out and what that's like for, say, a young person of color navigating that environment. Because there may be many people obviously who don't know you.”
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“My rough recollection was there were no more than counting me, I believe five African Americans on the whole floor. And I think there were only to my best recollection, maybe two people of Hispanic backgrounds or ethnicity. And so, I mean, think about that, right? So it's just not bad. We won't call it bad, but it's just, it's not diverse, right? And so the normative standard is different. And so if you think about everything from if you're stepping into that environment and say, I was in an Alice role, and I would also have to do presentations to the broader group of my research findings.”
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“Well, for sure. So I would say that, one, there are both times when people consciously and unconsciously reject diversity. Let me start on the second element, which is many would argue the most common, those unconscious rejections of it. The reality is when you work in a setting, there is a normative standard, whether it's acknowledged or not. So let me give you an example, right? When I joined and I worked for the first firm that I worked for, I'm working for Large Wall Street firm, I'm working in sales and trading, particularly in the fixed income condition. And we had these really large trading floors, right? And so on one's trading floor, we have multiple trading floors. I think on the one trading floor that I worked on, there were approximately 600 professionals.”
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“So, as you walk through some of your strengths and then tied this into your beliefs now and how you lead, there are a lot of synergies, right? The fact that you are an independent thinker, the fact that you're not as timid about conflict as other people, that leads you to think differently in those group settings. I'm wondering along the way in your path to being in the seat that you are today, if you ran into situations that very specifically, whether by race or thought, it doesn't really matter that you saw people not embracing diversity as you defined it broadly.”
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“People who use, in a sense, a different rubric or a different way of looking at the problem than I do. My bias is I know how I think about things. And I know in a sense what my two set is. So what would complement or expand that? So I think diversity of thought is an important element of diversity as well. And then the last part of diversity I would say is diversity of style. And what I mean by that is there are multiple ways of getting things done. And I think one of the mistakes that you can make, say, as a manager, for example, is focusing so much on the process or with an individual, the style, that you miss focusing on the outcome and not giving people the space to say if they can effectively accomplish an outcome and it's not inconsistent with the cultural norms, why not give them that space for that flexibility?”
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“There's one such a pressure to conform to whatever the cultural norms are, and we have to buy in to be part of that culture. And then there's another thing to conform to whatever people believe they need to conform to to be successful, whatever that is. But sometimes in that process, the authentic self can get lost. And I think what happens when you have the commitment and sometimes the courage to find your authentic self, people respond in kind. And so I think those are some of the keys to connecting with people. But I also think diversity of thought is important. So again, we come at solving things different ways. And you know how sometimes you can be with a group of people and they will be inclined towards people who think the way they do or come at problems the same way that they do. And they will attest a high value to that. I'm actually quite the opposite. And so oftentimes when I'm working in a group, I'm literally listening for and scanning for.”
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“Then appreciate how to engage people as their unique selves to allow them the space and the grace I like to say to be themselves. What I like to describe as bring the best of who they are into the workplace. Now, I think one of the ways that you get that tech, frankly, is I actually think you have to learn to do it first yourself. And so if people are really honest, a lot of the times people struggle in any sort of workplace or corporate environment to just be authentic.”
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“So diverse to me occurs on a number of different levels. So, first of all, I fundamentally believe that when we think about diversity of culture and ethnicity, that's very relevant. I know that people of good intent and goodwill will say things like, I'm colorblind. And I know what they mean by that. But the reality is we're not really colorblind. At our best, we actually, if we want to use the term color, we need to be color aware. Because appreciating people of different cultural backgrounds, ethnicities, if we want to use the construct of race, they bring different perspectives to a team and environment and group. And I think part of it is maybe it's because of some of my lived experience. Maybe it's just who I am as a person. But being sensitive to the fact that while we might have a common culture, that everybody's a unique person. And I think it's given me an ability to appreciate that.”
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“Actually, have to downshift the way I would describe it is if you're racing on a racetrack, sometimes when you go into that curve, you actually got to slow down a little bit so you can speed up to come out the other side. And so I would say those are examples of, as I've introspectively looked at myself and how I've engaged, things I've focused on in areas and constantly sought to improve.”
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“It seems like a really simple thing. I like to believe I've gotten better over time. But this thing that's really powerful, and I talk to people about the ability to listen both with our head intellectually and with our heart emotionally. And I feel like that's an area where over time, particularly as someone who has positional leadership responsibilities, I've improved, but it's a place that I'm constantly focusing on and you see the areas where you need to improve. Another area related is that your strengths belie your weaknesses. I am a very outcome oriented person, very performance driven in that regard. And there is a such thing that I would describe as understanding pace. And so my natural orientation, if this makes sense, Ted, is like if the car has five gears, like mine stuck in fifth. And at my best, I learn when I need to adjust and to put it in the right gears, which for me means at times you”
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“I would say that I have found since early on in my life I really thrive in being able to not only work with but pull together and over time as my influence has gone lead very diverse teams. And that's something I think that's really important. And I also believe that with respect to both how I communicate and just my natural values and ability to connect on a genuine way with people of all kinds of experiences and backgrounds. So those would be strengths. In terms of the continual areas of improvement in life, like one of the things that I think that one can never be good enough at, and I always work on is just listening.”
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“Personally, my orientation is in terms of my temperament, I'm definitely an intuitive and a thinker, so an NT. Like if people did Myers Briggs, you might refer to that temperament type as a rational. And so that means for me, I have a natural strategic orientation. Like when I think I don't necessarily get to a point linearly, I can get there very quickly because I have an abstract way of deducing things and problem solving. Those are natural strengths for me. I'm also an abstract communicator in that regard. I would say in terms of my disposition, I'm very much an independent thinker. And so while as all of us, we have an open emotional loop, we care about how we get on and collaborate with others, if there is a continuum, Ted, I'm not overly conflict-averse. And so there's a certain kind of independent thinking stream, a tough-mindedness.”
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“Qualities of coaches. Now, I'm biased. I've been there 16 plus years. So obviously I want to be there. I value the coach. But actually, when I make these observations, I don't make them as good or bad observations per se. I make them as observations about the qualities that distinguish this particular culture because every culture, it's like getting your performance review. There are things that you do well and are your strengths. And there they're always the opportunities that you have of the things that you're trying to evolve and improve. I would say as an individual, right, I have certain strengths. Some of those are just a function of how I'm created, like my design, so to speak. And I have certain things that people would perceive as weaknesses. And on some level, I guess your strengths belie your weaknesses. There's no such thing as having all strengths as people might use those terms. That's true of cultures as well.”
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“So one of the behavioral norms of our culture is definitely the enterprise or the team precedes the focus on the individual actor. And so you'll hear some people talk about quote unquote a star-based coacher, where we'd be the antithesis of that. Another thing is there is a strong emphasis in terms of being collaborative. And a lot of the decision making is consensus driven. That would be another element of the culture. People, because of that sort of Midwest ethic, I think that there is both a genuine concern and care about the welfare of your colleagues, but I also think that brings with it a certain level of, and people from the Midwest can definitely appreciate this, a certain level of politeness. And the point I would make here, it's a very important point, Ted. A lot of times when you talk about cultures and you talk about the”
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“Decisiveness and a long term orientation and a way in which decisions are made over time. So it's not a hairy kind of culture and those sorts of things. And then I would say as a coacher, if this makes sense, all cultures have norms or behaviors, but some coaches are really strong coachers, and some coaches are weaker coaches. But coachers nonetheless. Northern Trust is definitely a strong coacher. And so those are some of the things that I encountered when I joined Northern Trust and are consistent to this day. The last thing that pervades the coacher is like, while you don't want to be stereotypical about a coacher, it really does have this Midwestern ethos in terms of how you would think about it and the things that that would entail.”
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“First of all, I would say if you think about an organization that's been around for over 130 years, there's something to be said about longevity and probably one of the things that is entailed in that is some strong, in a sense, cultural bearings or norms. All cultures have two forms of performance capital and relational capital. But Northern Trust as an organization is a highly relational culture. Two Northern trusts we talk about the business that the firm was founded on. If you think about it being a trust bank and beginning with sort of the management of people's wealth, but the fiduciary heritage and responsibility. And that fiduciary heritage, it permeates the entire culture. So in terms of that one. I think that at Northern Trust, I would say it's a conservative culture. Now, you know, conservative often means something in this day and age. So I'm not talking about from a political standpoint. I'm talking about there's a purposefulness.”
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“For anyone. You have the instance of race and what that means in terms of everything from biases to stereotypes to preconceptions. But then you have this other element, which is race is a very uncomfortable topic. It's one of those proverbial third rails. So it's not something that's in a sense engaged on directly or talked about in polite company. So it's having to navigate something that presents its requisite challenges. At the same token at a time or in most normal settings where it's something that people feel quite uncomfortable engaging on.”
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“There are a couple of things that you deal with as it pertains to race. And the first thing that you deal with is, one, in societies around the world, and I would say it's particularly acute in the US, race is a topic that just influences like every aspect of life. And what's interesting is so many people probably underappreciate even the inception of concepts around race and all those things, but it's a social construct that we all accept and buy into because that's what we know. If you're an African American, if you're a person from a racial standpoint that's characterized as black, there are so many things that you deal with in a sense, in a direct sense, but a lot of them are subtle, particularly in the workplace, because there are stereotypes or perceptions or things like that that precede you. And one of the things is your reality is you have to navigate a culture and that has its own challenge.”
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“So before we get to sort of Northern Trust where you spent a lot of time, along the way as a young African-American professional working your way up those ranks, what were some of the challenges that you saw and faced specific to the racial differences?”
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“Do specifically in your capacity to thinking about how a team works together, how you encourage the development of people working with you and around you, those sorts of things. So that was my first opportunity to have managerial responsibility. How did you learn to do that? Maybe it's one of the dirty secrets about most professional services firms is that more than not, you actually don't prioritize”
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“My career. So when I came out and I worked for Morgan Stanley, was an analyst there, had an opportunity to move and be promoted into a sociole, I knew I wanted to go to business school, so I went to business school in the University of Chicago. And when I came out, I went to work for Goldman Sachs. And there I was working in the equities division, working in an institutional sales capacity. And my role was actually advising institutional investors. So whether you think large public pension funds, you think large asset managers, alternative managers like hedge fund managers, those would have been my clients. And a couple years into that as our business was growing, I had the opportunity to then move from where I was part of a team to co-managing one of our territories. And so again, fairly early on having an opportunity to be at that time a player coach. And that's different, right? Because you go beyond just what you have to do in a very demanding, performance-oriented business from thinking about what you have to do.”
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“And Anderson Consulting, the author Anderson, as we know it, does not exist today. And that kind of set me on a path where I did an undergraduate major in business. And then while I was in my undergraduate, pursuing my undergraduate degree at Florida A&M University, that's where I did some internships. The last one actually being working for Morgan Stanley. Because over time, I moved from having an interest in accounting, believing that I would be an auditor to really getting exposed to the capital markets and investing in those things. And so you fast forward to today, you know, 26-year career, principally working in various areas of financial services. Primarily, I've spent my career in the capital markets and then on the investment side of the business and thus my role today. At what point in time did you transition from being effectively a producer to a manager and leader of people? I was fortunate to have a managerial experience fairly early on.”
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“Thanks so much for joining me. Ted, how are you doing today? I'm doing great. Thanks. Always love to start with someone's background. So how did you initially get into the asset management industry? The way that I got into investment management was really along the continuum of a career in financial services. So I was born and raised in Chicago, grew up on the south side. I had a great educational experience in starting in high school going to a magnet program. And the reason I start there is because that was the first place I really got introduced to practical exposure to business. I had known since I was young, I wanted to go into business, but I really didn't know what that meant, right? I saw people wearing suits on TV, carrying briefcases. I thought that was cool and I thought they were doing things that were important. But at that time, I took an accounting course. I took an applied economics course. It really began to understand how it applied in real life. I had worked all the way through high school, but I did a co-op working for what was there.”
2020-08-24 · Capital Allocators · Diversity, Equity & Inclusion 3: Shundrawn Thomas – Leading the Way (Capital Allocators, EP.153) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bias. We turn to his values based methodology to foster change across recruiting, mentorship, promotion, leadership, and performance at Northern Trust, and we close with his perception of how the renewed interest in diversity provides an opportunity for businesses to take action. Please enjoy my conversation with Chandraon Thomas in the third episode of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Awareness, and Action.”
2020-08-24 · Capital Allocators · Diversity, Equity & Inclusion 3: Shundrawn Thomas – Leading the Way (Capital Allocators, EP.153) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My guest on the third episode of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Awareness and Action is Shundron Thomas, the president of Northern Trust Asset Management, where he oversees the nine hundred billion dollar organization. Chandran joined Northern Trust Corporation in 2004 and rose to the leadership team in 2008. Over the last eight years, he has hired and promoted much of Northern Trust Asset Management's executive team, whose 15 members include nine women and minorities. Chandran is deeply involved in diversity efforts across the industry and was named one of this year's most influential black executives in corporate America and previously one of the most powerful blacks on Wall Street. Our conversation covers Chandran's early career and issues of race, the culture that drew him into northern trust and examples of unconscious”
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“Shortly after I finished the interviews for the Sustainable Investing Miniseries, Black Lives Matter took center stage in the United States. I asked around and discovered that the subject is uncomfortable for many to discuss and that while many CIOs are interested in being part of the solution, most are not familiar with the underlying nature of the problem or the actions to take as a result. This miniseries, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Awareness and Action, is a four-part introduction to the issues at hand. We'll explore what's been going on for a long time and hear what some are doing about it. It's my small part in contributing to fostering the conversation.”
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