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Skye Fitzgerald

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  1. Some fundamental, and it also speaks to consent, right? Am I being fair in a sense of consent? Do I have active consent in this moment, right? Regardless of whether I have a signed piece of paper. I always find some way to document it, whether it's just direct address to camera or a translated release.

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  2. Every day you can screw it up. I mean, that's really the asking about the ethos of documentary filmmaking, right? I allow a lot of things to guide my choices. One of them being am I being fair? Right? Not balanced, right? But am I being fair to what I'm witnessing?

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  3. With fingers, I suppose exactly, but I'd rather maybe not playing jazz while they operate on me. Yeah. But I think for me, I think there are moments of both, but usually not at the same time, right? There are surgical moments where the moment is so pressing, you really have to be that task driven, right, to capture as thoroughly as possible whatever's unfolding, right? But I think there's other times where you do improvise like jazz, right? And where you have a lot of choices ahead of you and you're doing it maybe a dance with the other camera person, right? In order to capture a scene as creatively and fully as possible during a fixed duration.

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  4. Well, it could be either, right? Hopefully, not the same time though, because I don't think surgeons and fans go well together. They're both.

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  5. That's my choice, right? That's how I work best. That said, the caveat there would be that's not the only way to do it, obviously, right? Like one of my favorite documentary documentaries of all time is a documentary called A Woman Captured, Shot in Hungary by a single filmmaker with a single camera with a single lens, right? And it's brilliant and powerful in moving and interventional. It's incredible filmmaking and it was a single human being who created that film with a collaborator or a subject. So it can be done. It's just not how I work best.

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  6. I can do all the other work to build relationships, right? To have side conversations with people, to sort out the right way to tell a story, right, or to transfer footage, knowing that the director of photography is still filming during all that. So it frees me up to think of it as a director rather than just an image acquirer.

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  7. Sometimes the director of photography is in another room filming a different scene. If it makes sense, sometimes we're cross shooting in the same room. Just depends on the needs of the moment. So we come back with double the footage is one thing. But as a director, so that's, you know, and given how access is sometimes shaped by the events so that we can only something in lifeboat, for example, a rescue operation may only happen three days, right? So you want as much footage of that as you can. But the other piece of it that's really critical for me, I found, is that by having another human being I'm filming with who I'm co-shooting with, it frees me up as a director to not always have to be shooting either.

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  8. You know, not for me. And here's why. What I found is that by being a team of two filming with a field producer, by two people filming, it allows us to double our footage, first off, right? So we have twice as much footage in the time we're filming to come back with, as opposed to one person filming.

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  9. Oh, I have that trillion dollars again. You can write that check before I leave. Yeah, I will. Great. I've never seen a check for that thing. That's going to be interesting. How many zeros

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  10. Think you have to allow the story to dictate what the size of the film should be. For these small human rights docs, I do, I think two or three, you know, it means you work your butt off, right? Because you're doing everything, right? But it allows you to tell intimate stories and have that access. I'm doing a film this summer that's a scripted piece where we'll probably have 25 crew people. Know so it's a completely different endeavor altogether.

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  11. I mean, I lived out the trunk of my car for a couple years after grad school, just freelancing, you know, just like But that couple years really helped me learn fast because I had to learn fast. So I did a couple voyages around the world for this group called Semester at Sea that has a floating university that they go out three and a half months at a time with about 500 college level students and about 35 professors. And so you're shooting every day for three and a half months in like nine different countries. That really was like instrumental to me becoming a pretty good camera person pretty quickly.

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  12. Yeah, you know, because I taught myself everything. Kind of microphone should I use, right? What kind of camera? What does this lens do? What's that lens do? I didn't know any of that. And so I essentially have been self-taught technically.

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  13. That's a good question. I think I definitely knew right away that it was more my wheelhouse, right? And I think part of that was because I grew up in sort of a world of imagination. And I think that act of imagination as a child really lent itself well to the skill set that a director needs, right? To shape story, to shape narrative, to shape performances. So I think it was a much more natural fit for me. Was I excellent at the beginning? Heck no. No. You know, I think few people are, but I learned.

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  14. The the The first, yeah, the first as an undergraduate, yeah, but then I learned pretty quickly that I was pretty bad at it, or at least not very good, and that my skills lay elsewhere in more sort of behind the scenes and shaping a story.

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  15. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I wasn't an actor, but I had to act and I had to know the craft of acting because I was in the theater, you know, to work.

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  16. Oh, I just needed an extra class in grad school. I was in an MFA directing class and I needed an extra class and I just sort of like talked my way into a television directing class and fell in love with it.

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  17. I think craft is more than just knowing how to push record on a camera or what lens to use, right? That's part of it, right? But I think at least in nonfiction, I'm a product to some extent of having to know how to do it all. Having to teach myself how to do it all. Because I didn't go to film school, you know. But I became so enamored of telling stories through a camera.

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  18. Would say, you know, first off, learn your craft, right? Because I think craft is Incredibly foundational, right? To creating a powerful story.

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  19. Incremental, yeah, it's incremental. Yeah, and there's always some moment in the editing process where there's a breakthrough, where suddenly I understand how it fits together more fully.

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  20. But then I'm testing the hypothesis during the course of filming, right? And I have to stay true to what the data tells me. The end creatively. So it's very similar to the scientific process. I don't know what we should probably coin that.

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  21. Where it's basically log notes, and I watch every scene and I take notes, and I know really what we have. And once I've gone through that process that takes about a month and I really know what we came back with, I create an outline for the film from that. And that's the third visioning, right? That's usually completely different than my original vision for the film to some extent, right? But I have to stay open to that entire process or I'd be trying to create something that I can't really create. So I think those are the three creations for me.

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  22. So, what I do, my process is that If it's a really difficult project, I'll take a break before I go through this. Just for healing, you know, and some space away and fresh eyes, and usually that's about a month. And then once I re-engage, I re-engage whole hog. I re-engage fully. And I review every single frame. And as I do that, I create a spreadsheet. And for Hunger Ward, that spreadsheet was, I don't know, 1,500 lines long or something.

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  23. And then just transferring the footage and getting on safely cloned to multiple drives. I don't have a chance to review everything. I can't do rushes like you do on a large feature. So, because I'm filming half of it, I know what I've filmed, right? But I haven't seen everything the director photography has filmed, right? So the next stage for me is reviewing every single frame of what's been filmed. And that's where discovery happens the third time, right? Or second time rather, is wow. Now I thought we'd filmed this, but actually there's this over here. And then I have to open up this second vision and turn and transform it into a third vision for the film based on what's actually on the hard drive.

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  24. Yeah, yeah, but if I tried to hold to that original vision and to create a film out of that idea, they'd be crap. All the films. So I have to adapt. I have to evolve my approach and then embrace what is actually occurring with the people actually doing it and then re-envision. So that re-envision is very active during the entire filming process. And so that's the second creation. That's the rethinking and revisualizing based on what we're actually experiencing and seeing what this film is going to be. Finish filming, right? And we bring the hard drives back and we plug in the hard drives in the Edibay. And oftentimes, you know, because it's two of us filming most of the time, I haven't seen all the footage. Because in the field, it's all about just filming, right?

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  25. I've developed this sort of mental paradigm for myself over the years that speaks to that. And I call it the three creations, right? And so when I'm doing a film, the first creation for me is, you know, my preconception or visualization of what the film is going to be before I shoot it, right? So I have this entire vision of what a film's going to be. And sometimes it can be pretty specific. Like I'll think through the scenes if I know the locations and everything and how this idea of what I'm going to create, right? And then I'm there filming. And always without fail Reality is something altogether different than what I thought it would be.

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  26. For example, at night, just so we can see them, right? So it's instances like that, or if we do do an interview, which we don't do very often, but if we do, just so we have a key light on the face, right? And always bring a reflector or two, you know, just to shape natural light as well in ways. But it's about shaping rather than producing light for us.

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  27. You know the best lighting instrument in the world. At the right moment of the day. And so I predominantly use natural light At certain moments and just shape natural light during the course of these small human rights talks. That's not to say we don't bring instruments sometimes, but when we do, they're very small and again compact. So for example, I have this small little tube kit that's just three instruments, right? That you can charge with USB because electricity is often a major issue where we go. So there's just three little tube lights with magnetic backs that if we find in a situation where we can't get enough exposure for a hallway or something and we have the time to throw it up, we'll throw it up if people are walking, if collaborators are walking down.

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  28. What I would do with the children is I wouldn't invest in a well, I guess I would invest in, I would increase capacity to do more films, what I would do. So I would buy basically the perfect little mini equipment set, right? But then I would train three teams maybe to do the same thing that I've been doing so we could multiply and scale up.

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  29. I'm not a tech geek, but because during the bulk of my career I've worked as a director of photography myself for other people in order to pay the bills over the years. You know, I know the technical side of it because I've had to know it and I've had to train myself and learn it. So I see them as necessary tools. Again, because I believe You know, film and cinema is and should be visually driven and not verbally driven. I want the best tools possible within my means, right? And within the logistical ability of the project, because we have to go so small, right? I can't afford, nor can I bring a huge $100,000 lens.

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  30. So it's trust that I'm always aiming for. It's the building of relationships which I'm always aiming for, which is why, you know, yesterday I got a bunch of photos from Dr. Al-Sadiq in the south of Yemen, and she sends me photos all the time of the children that she's currently treating because we have an active relationship that continues on and probably will for many years to come. So it's going to continue. And that's the only way that I can do these kinds of films.

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  31. It's based on relationships, right? You have to build relationships with other human beings, however you can. And that takes time and it takes listening and it's active. So I've talked about the notion of consent before, which is so important in nonfiction film. And I hew to this idea that You don't just slide a piece of paper in front of someone, a release form, and have them sign it, and then you're done. You know, that's not the nature of true consent in my mind. You have to work on a foundation of active consent every single day that you're working with someone. And that's based on relationship, right? And it's based on dialogue.

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  32. Well, we all have an agenda, right? I think in anything we do, whether it's like to seek truth or, you know, some larger principle. I always have an agenda. I chose to work with civilians and caretakers in Yemen on Hunger Ward rather than to go interview MBS, right? That's what I'm interested in is bringing that to the world, right? But in terms of building relationships and trust, it's really, I think, about transparency as much as anything else and going in in a collaborative sense. So I don't I don't think of the people that I film with as subjects, for example. I think of them as collaborators. So it's a different mindset that I go into projects with.

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  33. Well, so I do draw a distinction between journalism and filmmaking because I think you're right. They're different. And there are some filmmakers who do hew to sort of the journalistic tenets of who, what, where, when, why fair and balanced on both sides, right? Make sure everyone has a voice. I don't

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  34. I just keep going. And I believe in this notion of incremental evolution that with each project, I try to learn from it and take away lessons learned and improve my craft and improve how I leverage that craft and improve how I tell the story from a narrative standpoint each time so that on the next project, it's a little bit better. And that's the arc of my career is learning, learning, evolving, evolving so that I can make a little better film the next time.

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  35. I'm not the most talented filmmaker in the world. I'm not the smartest guy in the world. I think if there's qualities that have served me well in my career, it's persistence and tenacity, right? I've always been sort of a slow burn human being. I would never hit a home run, but I hit a first, right? A single to first. And then I'd hit another single to first. So I ran a marathon when I was 18, and I think that is illustrative of sort of how my career has been.

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  36. All around us All around us. You just have to look. There's fascinating people everywhere who are doing incredible things. We have to be open and keep our eyes open and realize that there are amazing human beings everywhere.

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  37. So, you know, those moments of sort of mysterious confluence happen, right? And I think you have to be open to them when they do happen. Because I'm a storyteller, I'm always looking as well, right? So because he then contacted me later and said, Sky, I am going back to the Syrian border to volunteer as a surgeon. Do you want to come with me? That was an easy one. That's probably the easiest one I could give you. It came out of this interesting moment, very personal moment, right? Lifeboat and Hunger Ward were completely different. And I had to really work hard to gain access to those stories.

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  38. Probably one of the easiest ones I ever had in the recent past was for 50 feet from Syria where, you know, I literally broke my hand in a bicycle race. And after many months of trying to get an appointment with an orthopedic hand surgeon, you know, a specialist, I finally did, and he was Syrian American. the Syrian conflict had just begun and we started talking about it. After, you know, he looked at my hand in the first five minutes, he's like, Yeah, you need surgery, great. But then somehow we started talking about Syria. And like five minutes in, he just stood up and like put the privacy curtain around us. It's supposed to be a 15-minute appointment or so. We talked for an hour

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  39. That's catalytic for me. I feel that mortality each day. And my goal is to tell as many of these stories. Before I'm gone

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  40. And yet, I think that's why I keep doing these stories, right? Because once you have that lived experience for me, Moving, it moves me to bear witness to these. These inspiring people under difficult circumstances. And it, you know, I can't come back to the US afterwards. And, you know, walk down the grocery aisle where there's 50 different choices for canned peas and not sort of feel that lived tension, right? That lived tension of the privilege that I have here in the US. And then I have a choice about what to do with that privilege, right? And the last thing I want to do is start, you know. Doing stories about dandelions, right? There's far more important things to do on this very limited time that I have on the planet. And, you know, I think that

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  41. And that's the hard part For me, most of my films, that's the hardest part. Actually, as hard as Hunger Ward and Lifeboat Word to film and fifty feet from Syria? The getting there piece of it for the last two was much harder.

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  42. Zoom lens, it's not a prime lens, so it's not a fixed focal length, right? Because a fixed focal length, you have to move a lot more in order to capture action. With a zoom lens, maybe a 105 at the long end, I can tuck into a corner and just film from 15 feet away instead of having to get right up on someone, right? So you're less likely to interrupt the scene and you can kind of become the fly on the wall sometimes. So I'm very intentional about that piece of it so that we can capture those vulnerable moments and not interrupt them.

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  43. Two people in the That's it, the whole film, right? We had a field producer as well, and he's part of the country. But in terms of camera, it's just two people. And we're doing everything and we have lenses that, you know, are long enough that we don't have to move to capture the film. So we can tuck into a corner sometimes, right?

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  44. So it's logistical on the one hand, but it's also a creative choice, right? So when we filmed Hunger Ward, two people were filming the entire film, right? Me and my director of photography.

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  45. Families are dealing with suffering children and dying children and caretaking is active and ongoing all the time. You don't want to interrupt that moment. And so that informs how I do things. So we go fleet and nimble and small.

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  46. So many of my films, I think, are built on the premise of access, right? Built on this notion that The biggest hurdle to the story is getting there, being there in the room or being there on the boat while the crisis is unfolding. And that access typically is really nuanced and difficult to gain and then trust flows from that, right? Because usually it takes a long time to gain that access. Because that access is so hard fought. It necessarily informs how we film, right? To be in a room at Sadaka Hospital in southern Yemen, I can't have five people in that room, right? I can't have a boom mic over a scene. I want creatively the opposite of that as well. So it's not just a logistical question, it's also a creative question to capture intimate moments where

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  47. Some extent, but oftentimes I choose the next project based on relationships I've developed. In the last film, right? And so one often flows into another through relationships I develop and then a colleague will share a detail about something that's happening in a certain place and I'll go, hmm, really? I didn't know that, right? And usually it's before it's hit the world stage in a big way. And so I start to do due diligence. And often that reveals it to be a much bigger and more pressing topic that I want to learn more about.

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  48. Decisions have on real people's lives. And that's the intent I create each film with. Now, how I choose each story, that's the magic potion piece of it, right? And often one flows rather organically into another, frankly.

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  49. Think we should be paying attention to the fact that children are being starved in Yemen. I think we should be paying attention to the fact that Ukrainians are being displaced by the millions. So there's this so what threshold that I use. And I feel like it has to be a topic that if we don't cover and we don't put out in the world in the largest possible way, in the hope of intervening, in the hope of marshalling maximum resources and attention to solving the problem, that's what I'm dedicated to as a filmmaker because I didn't pick up a camera initially to film puppy dogs to make people smile. I believe the camera is a tool for change. I believe the camera is a powerful tool that we can use to raise awareness and martial resources and help people understand the impact that these geopolitical

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  50. Feels something. So, one of the things that disturbs me amount of American culture, Lex, is that we seem to be a people that's fascinated by reality television, for example, like look at how many of us here in America Watch reality television, right? That deeply disturbs me. Not that I've never watched an episode. I've shot a whole season of it once to make a living, right? So it's like I know it, right? But I feel like the things we should be paying attention to are the things personally, are the things I choose to film, right? As a human being, as a dad, as a filmmaker.

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