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Stephanie Cutter

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first: 2021-07-22
most recent: 2021-07-22
sittings or episodes: 1
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“And the strength of our democracy. And that was very true to who he was, how he ran for president. In fact, what he said at the Capitol earlier that day. So that was really the secret sauce of both of those programs having Joe Biden be at the either the top of the ticket or having been sworn in. I'm not sure if it would have been as successful with a different candidate.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Celebrating America and it's nominated for Outstanding Variety Special Live. So I just want to say one thing about both of these productions, that neither of them would be as successful as they were without Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. You know, that convention told his life story and his story is so rich Ups and downs You know, it was almost impossible not to forge an emotional connection with viewers telling that story. And the same with the inaugural. You know, if you look at the celebrating America program that we produced from the Lincoln, that is basically how he ran his campaign, the messaging, the dialogue. It wasn't about celebrating a new president. It was celebrating the perseverance, strengthened perseverance of the American people.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Produced it with Act One, Act two, Act three, with the storyline being pulled through, which bridged to the next night. And we created a real diverse set of content so that it just kept viewers' attention. And it was, you know, in some ways access was a lot easier from a message perspective to tell a story that way than you could in a normal convention where Know you've got these politicians getting up there and”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It went through many, many different iterations because at first because of the pandemic, we moved the date of the convention a month later. Then it was going to be a hybrid convention with just the delegates there and not the tens of thousands of people that travel to a convention to go to parties and fundraisers and all of that stuff, to then just the candidates in Wisconsin and everything else virtual to 100% virtual convention. Through that process, you know, I kind of decided, one of the things that we want to preserve here because this is not going to be like any other convention that we've been to. So what do we need to preserve? And what do we need to get rid of? And the things that we preserve, how do we reinvent it to fit this format? And I decided that this was, this couldn't be a series of speeches, political speeches, because people would just shut it off. It had to be, we had to produce a TV show. So we literally.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know work from home. I could do whatever I needed to do, and I had made the decision that I would be home every night by 6 o'clock, except for the nights that I was doing crossfire. If I was doing crossfire, I would get home at 7. As a baby, he would be in bed. So I would go into work late the next morning so I could spend time with him. But I just made a decision that that was going to be my life. That was the priority. So no more White Houses, no more presidential campaigns, no more any of that. I was just, that was it. And it's been a great life.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know there are moments where you're waiting for the House of Cards to just come crumbling down, but I think most working moms, working parents have that feeling. I made a decision though, the whole reason I started precision is so that I could have the flexibility that I needed to have a child. You know, I could make my own schedule. I could.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there's this thing called the clock, and it was ticking. And so I had to, if I was going to do it, I had to do it. And I decided that I wasn't going to wait to find the perfect relationship or marriage to check that box off before I did it. And I made a decision to do it on my own. And it was obviously the best decision I ever made. But going through it, it was scary and lots of self-doubt. And am I making the right decision here? Am I going to be able to do this? And what I tell lots of young women who are now doing it, because every, you know, it's much more common, is that you never 100% feel like it's the right decision until you see that baby. But once you see that baby, there's not one doubt left in your mind because it's a scary thing to do on your own, but it was worth every second of it.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I had just had my son Declan, and I was going through the baptism and all of that. So that type of friendship, we weren't exactly dissecting healthcare policy.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we also were both Catholics. That was a lot of the basis of our discussions. Something Callista Gingrich is very involved in the Catholic Church. She was the ambassador of the Vatican.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I know. I know. The dirty secret, and you know this too that some of my best friends here in Washington are, or across the country, are people that I can't paint against. Know Steve Schmidt, a dear friend of mine, and he was the person on the other campaign that I was fighting against for a good decade of my life. You know, Nicole Wallace, you know, Kevin Madden, that once you go through the trenches and that very few people get to go through those trenches, you respect the person on the other side who... Who went along those trenches with you. And I wouldn't say that Newton, I have exactly that relationship that I have with Steve or Kevin or Nicole. But you can learn a lot. From just listening.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tormented you Sure, we did. I said I never thought in a million years I would end up in a position like this. And it turns out he was great to work with. We come from extremely different places, ideologically. And I say extremely, and I'm being kind.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, just gave her the infrastructure for her to be her and to make some strategic decisions so that what some on the other side were trying to do to her, they couldn't do. A lot of, you know, we never know exactly who was pushing it, but whoever in the right wing, the things that they couldn't say about then Senator Obama, they would say about Michelle Obama and that there was a real danger of it spinning out of control. So I just put the infrastructure around her to be back that, but also for her to just be her. And once she was confident that she could be herself, then she just took off like a meteorite.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've ever met. And we hit it off. I mean, we're similar in a lot of ways, and our preparedness and our planning and our... Attention to details, some might call it anal, and our straightforwardness. I was hired as her chief of staff, and our relationship was great. And, you know, you know how this story ends.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I had said no, I can't. Senator Kennedy's sick. I need to do this. I think Anita probably said, well, I want you to talk to Axe and I talk to you. And then I finally agreed to come to Chicago to meet with her. And then once I met with her, it was done. She is one of the most compelling figures.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said, I'm not really a spouse type person. And you said, Stephanie, I'm not looking for you to wear an apron and carry a spatula and tell me your favorite recipes.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but I almost didn't go on the Obama campaign because of it. The day he left the hospital after that stint when he was diagnosed is the day that Anita Dunn called me to see if I would come on the Obama campaign as Michelle's chief of staff. And I said, no, you know, I was so tired Yes, we did about a week later”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, my job was to preserve the ability for Kennedy to get that done and to let the world know enough about what was happening with him, but not so much that people wouldn't trust him to do these things.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. No, he definitely took care of me and looked out for me. And I'll never forget it. And I would have done anything for him. So I had a job to do. I had to, you know When he was diagnosed, he was basically given two months to live. He ended up living 16 months maybe. And we needed to preserve the time for him to continue to get things done. President Obama was running for office. Kennedy had endorsed Obama. Kennedy had big hopes of what Obama could do. Namely, healthcare reform”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you're in a situation like that, you're all about doing the job. And I was so focused on getting the job done. And I remember having to read the statement I wrote that was going to go out to describe. What he had, what he was diagnosed with, and just sitting in his hospital room reading him the statement, and he nodding, and yet, yes, that's good. That's good, totally composed. And I walked out of that room and I went and I hid in a corridor. Just cried. I got it out of my system. And, you know, of course, I felt a member of my family, somebody that I had admired and looked up to and who had taken care of me.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The day I got the call from Vicki that I needed to get up to Boston, that something had happened and the senator was being Medevacked Mass General from the Cape, I flew up there and we didn't know exactly what was happening, but it became pretty clear pretty quickly within a day that it was bad. And he was diagnosed with glioblastoma. And my job and all of that was to keep the press at bay, control the information that was going out, and preserve, you know, the ability of this great man, great legislature, the most productive senator in history, the ability for him to continue to do his job. And so figuring out how to talk about it with the Public showing people that he was okay. And he was okay. He dealt with it. I sat in the room when he was told. And he was a champ.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really, it was really thank you. I really appreciate it. But that's the kind of guy he was. You know, he didn't want you to know he was doing it. He was just going to do it. But that was the best decision I ever made was going back to his office.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So and so called me, said he was at that dinner with you last night, and you said some really nice things about me. And the senator's like, what? I don't know. What are you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, okay, here we go.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And what he was doing there is that he could see the writing on the wall. And he'd seen this story before and he knew what was about to happen to me. And he thought that I came back to his office, he could give some protection to me. And I ultimately did go back to his office. And I learned, you know, not from him, but from people around Washington that wherever he went, he would bring me up and talk about me positively. Like, do you know this woman who works for me, Stephanie Cutter? She's, you know, the greatest yada, yada, yada. And it would get reported back to me by friends around town who happened to be at whatever meeting he was at. And what he was doing single-handedly was trying to restore my reputation. And, you know, one day we're on an elevator in the capital. And I said, oh, you know.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, first, the loss was devastating. But then when it was basically one article, the Newsweek article and Newsweek book that came out that Was very harsh on me and Mary Beth and Mrs. Tracy Hines, John Kerry's wife, and a lot of the women. And it was so harsh that there was a backlash against that. But for me personally, yes, I was incredibly hurt and lots of sleepless nights and tears and the one thing that ultimately saved me again was Ted Kennedy. You know, the day... I was landing back in Washington after the concession speech in Boston. My phone rings and it's Senator Kennedy and he said, I think you need to come back to this office. And I said, oh, you know, I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do. He said, well, I think you really need to come back to this office.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It worked. In fact, we came out, we won Iowa and got to work with some great Political minds, Michael Hooley Jack Corrigan and sort of the Boston political mafia, and where I really cut my teeth on that kind of politics.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Mary Beth Cahill also got sent over as the campaign manager, and I was the communications director. And he was great to work for and we came at a time where there was a bit of a shift happening. In the race, and it was the fall of 2003, and we had made the decision that we were just going to go all in on Iowa with the idea that if we get, if we come out of Iowa in first, second, or third position, it would. Right.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had ordered me. Know, at that time, Carrie was like 40 points down, and the deal was I just had to get him through New Hampshire without really embarrassing himself because he was the hometown boy, you know, a senator from Massachusetts is considered the hometown senator in New Hampshire if you're running for president. And Kennedy just wanted to make sure Kerry got through New Hampshire in a respectable way.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, they loved it. They would play practical jokes on other senators and some funny stuff. Kennedy and McCain had the same sharp wit and sense of humor. So just to even sit in a room. I wish I just carried around a video recorder to capture it because it was like some of the funniest stuff that I've ever listened, witnessed. And they became great friends because they both viewed the scent at the same way, that they were there for a reason to not block things from happening, but to get things done. You know, there were plenty of things that they didn't agree on, but there was lots that they did. And coming from very different places politically, you know, a conservative Republican from Arizona and a liberal Democrat. The liberal lion, the most, yeah. And whether it was Patient Bill of Rights or immigration or campaign finance or Ireland or all of these things, they”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I was working for a Kennedy, which in Massachusetts is a big deal. We had a picture of the Pope and we had President Kennedy on our walls. And I worked for him for a long time, and it was the best thing I will have done other than having my son, the best thing I will have ever done in my life because there is nobody that worked harder. There was nobody who really understood politics, the good kind of politics, of how you can improve people's lives, how you can move things forward, how you're always making progress, even in a setback. And also how you treat your colleagues. Even across the aisle, he was love.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we just hit it off. He learned that I was from Rainham and grew up going to the Cape for the summers. We talked about the Cape Cod railroad and how he would take it from college down to Hyannis and I would take it from college down to Wareham, Massachusetts, where my family went. And we just had, we hit it off on a personal level. We didn't even talk about the job. We didn't even talk about my skill sets or my resume. He didn't care about any of that. He just wanted to see if he would click with me. And we did. And when I got the job, you know, at this point, I graduated from law school. I had worked for President Clinton. And, you know, I thought I had done pretty well for myself. But my mother, as soon as I got that job, you know, she said, finally. Finally, you've done something”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, my friend Mary Beth Cahill called me up one day, you know, right around the time of the Mary Kate Ashley blow up for me. And she was chief of staff to Ted Kennedy and said, will you come interview for the communications director role? And I jumped at it. And I went in and met with Senator Kennedy. And we met in his hideaway, which are those small offices in the Capitol building that senior senators get. And he had a famous hideaway. Would have world leaders come and have bilats there. He would have great negotiations happened in that hideaway.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This was an early internet company. You've got mail. And I went there to do communications there. And do you remember it was right around the time of the big Microsoft lawsuit and AOL was a party to it? And I wanted to work on that lawsuit. And I didn't get selected to work on it. I got selected to do fashion shows with Mary Kate and Ashley Olson. Again, for the young people on here, they were part of Full House at the time.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So after the Clinton White House, I actually took a brief hiatus and worked for AOL because, you know, that was AOL was the hot place to be. It's before the tech bubble popped.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think they were, you know, we don't know exactly what happened on the inside, but from what we see on the outside, it didn't seem they were that successful at that.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And did it delay progress in this country? Did it delay us getting to the Me Too movement because it was people turned a blind eye to what had happened in the 90s? Know it's something that we all think about a lot, and what would have been different had we done something about it. What was the recourse? Quitting or not defending him, you know, those, I guess, are options, you know, just like we think about the people that work for Donald Trump. wondered why didn't those people quit instead of leaking to the press about how bad he was why don't they just quit and their rationale was that we can impact what's happening if we stay on the inside. We can protect him from his worst instincts.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Getting on an elevator on Capitol Hill and having a old male congressman make a comment about my looks in front of a crowded elevator. You know, that's humiliating or going to a meeting on Capitol Hill with one of my bosses and have whoever the member was single me out because of my appearance or something that had nothing to do with my abilities. That stuff happened all the time. And it was par for the course and it wasn't acceptable, but that's where we were as a country. And it was hard to, you know, I sort of just, I didn't rationalize it. I just knew that what these men were doing, they were foolish and that I was strong enough and I did have these abilities and I could power through it and I could get past them and never look back at them. And that's how I dealt with it. And if I ever had an issue that truly made me”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How do I feel about it as a 20 something year old who kind of grew up in that world where, you know, I have tons of stories of...”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I came in at the tail end of the Luency stuff. And so, and as much as I had a problem with that chapter of President Clinton's, I truly believed in what he was doing for the country. And so being able to package that up and put plans together and drive policy was what I really enjoyed.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so that we were feeding the beast and showing that the president was still doing his job and still doing good things for the country.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All of the above, and there were lots of women and men in the administration that were really disappointed and uncomfortable with what happened. But my job was to not go out and defend him, but to drive a communication strategy that diverted from it.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's what I made it through, did fine, but thanks to a lot of good friends that would share their notes with me. So it was busy. Took me four years to get through law school, including going through summers, just so that I could balance work and going to school. But I wasn't the only one doing it.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there wasn't much sleep, but I will also share a little secret after my first year of law school when I did incredibly well in my first year law review and everything. After that, Slipped a little. There were semesters that some of my friends still joke about that I didn't even buy the books.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A big target in the contract with America. They wanted to defund DPA, but also in just passing the budgets, they tried to defund the Clean Water Program, the Clean Air Program. So it became a major primary component of President Clinton's agenda. And we spent the next two years beating back the contract with America because whatever bill was moving, there was constant riders, which are pieces of legislation that get attached to larger pieces of legislation to do something to the EPA. So we were constantly beating it back. And it was politically they thought the Gingrich people thought it was a winning issue for them because they were tearing down government. But it was actually an incredibly winning issue for us. It turns out people. Like clean drinking water. Turns out people like to breathe clean air”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, in the fall of'94, I went to EPA to work for Carol Browner. Carol Browner was the administrator of the EPA. And it was right before the 94 election in which to use President Obama's term Democrat Scott Schillac. And Mari Cuomo lost his governorship.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“After Cuomo didn't run, I did some advanced work for Clinton, which, as you and I know, as a 21-year-old at that point is the low person on the totem pole. And just loved it. And the people around him was basically ushering in a new generation of people in politics. And after he won, I applied to law school, went to law school at night, and then ended up going and interning while I was going to law school at night for him on the healthcare task force. And because I was in law school, I did all of the legal stuff and antitrust and all of that stuff that comes with healthcare reform.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was this big dramatic moment that I'll never forget, but it was also at that time one of the big political moments of that race.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot. I mean, the entire office, you know, so it was probably a 20 25 person office in DC. And that was, you know, we spent a lot of time doing a lot of planning for presidential run. And then the budget deadline was that, or the filing deadline for New Hampshire was that day. But the governor was trying to pass a budget. And Republicans wouldn't let him pass the budget for the purpose of him missing the final deadline in New Hampshire. We watched it all unfold and there were a lot of tears that night.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there were a few moments of getting lost and almost a few. The troopers always got a kick out of it. But I was just given lots of opportunities that I just grabbed onto.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yeah. And believe me, my work was not part of that. You know, I just took opportunities as I saw them in the office when somebody was on vacation. I'd cover their issues if they needed extra help if the governor was coming to DC. I would volunteer and travel around with him. I would just take any opportunity that I could. And over time, the head of the office, Brad Johnson, who was very close to the governor and had basically been planning his presidential run, just gave me some great opportunities to get exposed to different things, whether it was managing some legislative issues on Capitol Hill or doing briefing papers for the governor or writing speeches or even driving when the governor would come to town or when Mrs. Cuomo would come to town, I would drive with the state troopers, the cars, which was always interesting because I didn't know where I was going in Washington because I had never.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The shining city on the hill. I just was young. I was freshman or sophomore year in high school and I just loved that speech and the soaring rhetoric of it, but also the ability to articulate really what kind of country do you want to live in. And that was the first time I had ever, I got spoiled because that was the first time I ever saw somebody give a speech like that. And then I followed him from that point on through 88, and I was hoping he was going to run for president in 92. And so I was, you know, he was on my list. I wanted to work for him. And I just got lucky and started.”
2021-07-22 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 453 — Stephanie Cutter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source