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  1. This is basically that. I think it's what's going to happen is that in a year's time, it's going to be, you know, and that what I've seen is like whenever you see really brilliant projects that drop, you're like, oh, this is great. I'm going to use this idea, this seed, but I'm going to put my own DNA to it or put our DNA to it and build it out for the community that we're trying to speak to. That's going to happen a lot more. That's my prediction. What do you call it when you time capsule?

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  2. I want to be part of all of that's happening in the AOK verse. That's why you enter in the space and then you start, you know, we start understanding, oh, you really like that? Okay, we're going to try to deliver that if that's possible, like those kinds of fun activities. I really believe, like you said, in a year's time, that there will be other people in the space that are in the center of certain things that you will love, whatever it is. Let's say you love cars and there's like one guy that's just or girl that is just in the middle of like car culture. And they're like, this is our membership community to all things in the car culture. And I really love this person that's in the middle of all that. They should have a membership community that bridges all that to the people that want it, right?

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  3. And I do want to say that what we're doing with Aokiverse and the passports and this community membership and the social club. Because essentially people are like, if you see what I've been doing in the past year with NFTs and you're like, I really love this kind of this whole world because it's really a multiverse where, you know, it's like the multiverse of communities that I'm a part of. Essentially, that's what it is. When you enter in the space, you're like, I want to be part of that.

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  4. I'll tell you when I was a mold now, but when I was in my 20s before my friends and I would do something crazy, we would always say life is a collection of experiences. And I think about that all the time. It really is.

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  5. And you want those experiences to be meaningful, whether it's spending time with your family or going to a live event where you feel something, listening to a song that makes you cry, you know, looking at art that makes you melt, being part of communities that make you feel connected. We need to continue building off that, you know, like the same way I'm going to my shows. I play a show. I literally, the reason why I play so many shows is because I'm obsessed with just like that level of connection I'm having with different crowds through this music. I'm not even barely saying anything on the microphone yet. I'm connecting with strangers. Those are moments that are so important. So it's like, how do you encapsulate that and bring it into what the future looks like, you know?

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  6. You know, it was a year ago. I mean, literally a year ago, I dropped my first collection, and it feels, you know, I mean, there's so much that's out there, but I feel incredibly knowledgeable about what I understand now, but, you know, what's exciting is it just, you just every day there's something, a new level, new way to advance it forward, do something that's interesting, keep building on this idea of community because that's really what it's all about, you know. Beyond the art, beyond everything. It's about this two way combo with community and delivering incredible experiences. At the end of the day, it's like I go back to the real world stuff. Real world shit. At the end of the day, our life is a bunch of based on a bunch of experiences, right?

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  7. For sure. Oh, yeah, in six months I feel like you're a veteran in NFT space, you've been in here for like six months. He's like, you know, like I got a PhD at NFT that's only been here for the six months. It's like that early. You know, like getting into NFTs in like summer 2020, I feel like, wow, that was so long ago, you know, dropping my first collection in February 2021. It feels like...

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  8. Going to be out there for people to listen to. It's like we said, it's basically free. What we're talking about with Spotify, they're like, you know, they might increase a little bit extra money for people to make money, but it's not going to be a game-changing effect. It's always going to be at that level free. So it's going to exist, but if you want, if there's someone that's like, hey, I absolutely love this album and its attachment to this particular rarity and scarcity of this NFT of art that's connected to this emotion I feel when I listen to this song and I want to be the person that owns one of those few hundred pieces of that Why not? Why not allow that conversation dialogue to exist? It's up to the person buying it in the market that dictates what the value is and up to the artist to actually allow it to happen.

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  9. Oh, I know, but I think it's like two people talking over each other's heads because the music is going to exist regardless.

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  10. Saying the incentives are more about the if the money is on the NFTs, everyone's incentive is to focus on that instead of the music, which is, again, in my like 90s, don't sell out worldview. The music is like the most important thing.

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  11. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. He's like, no, I'm just pulling the string the other way because the artist doesn't have to do it, right? You don't have to do it. You can just release music. It's fine. That's just how it is.

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  12. It's also up to the market. It's entirely up to the market. That's the other thing that's exciting about the whole world is like the market decides. The market will decide if they're going to spend money on XYZ, the band that just came out was like, hey, I want to make money off this album that no one's heard of. And the market will decide if they want to pay for it. They're going to decide what the floor is. They're going to decide with their wallets. At the end of the day, you know, it's like let the market decide, let the artist decide if they want to do it. But why not allow this conversation, this way of viewing music as art? Why not allow that to happen?

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  13. But can any artist realistically make that choice? That's like my pull the string all the way. Will you be able to make money as an artist if you're like, I'm just going to do music? And then the music isn't worth anything.

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  14. That's right, music is meant to be at this point, the way we view music is meant to be free and heard. But you're adding a different layer to it of scarcity where it has an art impact of scarcity. So, I mean, like I said, it's up to the artists. It's up to the artist if they decide they want to even venture down that path.

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  15. I don't know. I think that's the thing. This is again, this is me just pulling the string. It's early. But yeah. I don't know. I think a lot of what we've talked about is based on the fact that unfortunately in the current system, the music itself isn't worth very much money, right? And we're moving the value to everything else and the music is kind of becoming, for a lack of a better term, like marketing for the stuff that is worth money.

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  16. Like, yeah, you can actually listen. The whole world could listen to Radio Head's album, but Tom York is making something special with that album limited to only a certain number for people that love that album and love Radiohead. And then it provides an income stream and a conversation in a way that never happened before. It adds a different layer. It allows it to be viewed as art the same way that you would buy a piece. I mean, it's just, it's exciting, to be honest. And I think at the end of the day, it's up to the artist, right?

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  17. I think we haven't really even made a dent. In culture, we just haven't even like we've made a dent within our small world for sure. But as far as cultural ramifications, we have, we're like so small. We're like, you know, such a small percentage of the whole space. I just think it's going to start changing. Yeah, you're right. The dialogue will change with, let's say, for example, with music. The dialogue's going to change when your favorite artist is doing an NFT and it's art.

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  18. And you could grind it all the way up. You could grind it up to a different level. And then you spend all this time grinding it to this level and have all your POAPs and all the different badges and stamps in your passport that allow you to grind. And when you get to that different level, you're like, you know what? I want to sell it. You have the ability to do that.

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  19. I wish I had the opportunity to. That's not like I don't want to sell it. It's like I want to have the opportunity to sell it. So I think that's the main difference is Web3 allows you to like if this is like the world that the social club that you subscribe to, whether it's like Soho House, your SoHo House membership, you can't sell it. I like going to SoHouse. I like going there feeling like I can have my meetings here. I can, you know, do my thing here. I enjoy being in that environment. So I'll pay that whatever I pay to be part of that. I can't sell it. So I think that's the main difference is this ability to sell it, to be able to grow it and sell it. You know, you could micro level into your levels. Eventually, we're going to be able to do that where you can gamify it where you go to all these different shows and you can start micro leveling in your level.

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  20. I think the big difference is exactly what you just said. I mean, the whole idea is that we're moving towards Web3. The main difference is Web2 is you don't own anything. You like, yeah, you know, I always put it like this, like, yeah, I always fly American Airlines because I want to get my points up. But I'm the highest level of American Airlines. I can never sell it. You know, like it's the same thing with certain things that I always use it that is part of my, you know, the way I decide. Of course, I could fly United all the time, but I decided American and I'm like an American flyer. You know, I'm concierge key. Like, I'm proud of that. I can't sell it. I wish I could.

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  21. Well, when I first got into NFTs through Nifty Gateway, that's on the Ethereum blockchain, that's like where we were able to source it all up. It's like, I still, I can't really answer that question for you. In detail. That's something that We have this conversation with my team about do we switch to Solana? Switch to another blockchain. And actually, I love Solana. I love what they're doing. I think it still needs some work and it still needs a way to build into a premium. NFT blockchain provider, but I do love it. I do plan on working with Slana. So yeah, I mean, that could be the pivot. We definitely have like, there's a lot of different people on the team that actually make these decisions as well. So it's just kind of like go with what we're all going for. Time

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  22. Yes, I do. It definitely is a very important topic and it's something that needs to be addressed in a way that uproots all of it. There's a way that we could figure out how to build a more ecologically friendly foundation underneath the actual blockchain. Yes, it's like it needs to happen. If this is a question like, is it worth doing or not doing? Well, I'm building in the space. I really am hoping for people that are way more versed in understanding how to make that happen happen. It's definitely a hope and dream that we can actually find a way to make it more ecologically sound. Yeah, absolutely.

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  23. Yeah, of course. You have to definitely, like, I think that's the only way you can safeguard or protect is by asking every question you can so that there's levels of protection there because you're right. It's early. It's decentralized. That's the only way we're going to move forward with innovation. Technically and philosophically is with these kinds of questions, you know?

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  24. But you have a God, I haven't even thought about that. There's like a different conversation that we have level six. So, level six, the level six passport. So, I mean, would a level six do something like that? You're right, it's possible. It's possible for anything in the world to happen, you know. But I think it's highly unlikely. Someone's going to invest all that money and time and energy and be a part of it. It's such a high level, would they try to rug everyone and try to scam other people? It's very, very difficult for me to see that happening. Is it possible? Yeah, it is possible, but is it likely? No, it's highly unlikely.

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  25. Yeah, that's their job, right? So, yeah, they might miss through the cracks. Some things get dropped. But it goes right back to making sure you have a quality team.

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  26. It's like it happens to everybody. I think at this point in time As people have ventured into the space, that's one of the big notifications and conversations and initial dialogues is be careful with whoever's saying what to hit this link to do this double check and make sure.

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  27. Yeah, that's a good question. And yeah, we have moderators and we have our weekly calls and meetings about how it's going in the Discord. And I'll definitely rely on them to do all that stuff. So it's really important. Yes. It is because that's what you hear all the time. It's like, oh my God, this so-and-so community's Discord got hacked by this and that, you know. Like you're not impenetrable, you know?

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  28. It just brings in a lot more different kinds of ideas, different reasons why they're part of it. It makes the Discord way more vibrant. Conversation is going to be not about just one thing. There's going to be different things that they want, things that they're looking for, things that they're excited about, things that they value. That's one thing that as a social club, and this is where the social club fits perfectly, is that we're going to communicate and actually connect with a lot of these different partners, the dead fellows, whatnot, and do really cool offerings from Community and their community and do something exclusive for what we're doing, you know, whatever those offerings might be.

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  29. Yes, so there's a secondary, the Aoki IP, whatever company participates in the secondary. I mean, like when we launched this, we wanted to be a very healthy cross-section of NFT culture and community that's participating not just AOK fans. So we reached out to all the different communities that supported us in the last year, which is when we started designing this about six, eight months ago. So we reached out to all these different communities. So we really wanted a very diverse, broad base, you know, reaching out to fuck renders team, to Janksi Squad, to the doodles camp to add a bomb squad, to blouse camp. I mean, it just looks like 24 different communities that were all part of the launch of Aokiverse. So I think now what that does, as far as building the...

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  30. 200 people, maybe 300. I don't know. Her was playing too. Her she was phenomenal. That's something that's like an aspirational. I mean, they have an incredible business and incredible community, and they're taking care of them, you know. I love that. I think it's like you can do anything. For me, it's going to be a different feeling when I play this Aoki verse show. I don't care if there's five people there. I really don't care because I look at each person as people that believed in the Aoki verse membership, that got themselves a passport. It's going to be so much more meaningful to me because I know where every single person came in from.

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  31. Okay, so that could happen, but I think there's like 2,000 between 2,000 to 3,000 members. The Aoki verse, so that could have happened, it's not happened. You know, you're right, there's someone that could have done that. But like, for example, I played for Gala games. So Gala games I played their Vegas show their first Vegas show they did and I just played in LA and it was like I think they booked out Doja Cat Aziz and Zari but they couldn't make it for some reason but Kings of Leon and myself and you know some other DJ friends Blau was also like you know clearly like you know who Blau is and other DJs right and I show up it's the forum the forum whole Community show and they brought in the heavyweights and they turned this 20,000 cap venue legendary iconic venue in LA and made it special for 200 people

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  32. And then we're going to be working with other NFT projects and dropping exclusive collapse inside of AOKERS with great projects that, to me, are blue chip. And you have that aspect. You have what Gary Vee and V Friends have done on building out what VCon is going to look like, which I'm going to be speaking at as well

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  33. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you could level up because here's the other thing, too, is that we're building out a mechanism. And by the way, the dev behind this is manifold. And to me, they're the best dev on Web3, period. You know, they just like all the stuff they've done previous to AOK verse with Pox pages to Pois, which I thought was phenomenal with Mad Dog Jones generated project with, you know, everything they've worked on has always been out of the gate something unique. So we kind of like launched this with a culmination of a lot of the ideas that already existed and put together, whether it's like, you know, I love the hundreds Adam Bomb Squad digital concept because they had their merch company, their fashion company, right? And I offer the same thing. That's why we're doing these drops of my little pony. We're going to do Attack on Titan next.

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  34. Me that I think it's difficult to do that because there are whales here for sure. I mean, one, there's already one whale that got to Black Prism level six. There's a few level fives. There's, I think, five members that are level fives. If you look at the floor of the credits, they still are around the same price. I think it's like right when we launched the passports, like 0.1. And I think it's a 0.15. I'm not sure I have to check the floor again, but later on as these credits burn, the floor will decidedly go up. That's for the market to decide that, you know.

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  35. There's like whatever credit's left over, and people, you know, obviously the more they burn, the less are in population. And presumably, you know, that tries the price of the credits up. But you use up the credits to level up your passport. And as you level up your passport, it goes from level one is one credit. Level two is four credits. Level three is 16. Level four is 64. Level five is, I forgot what it was, like 256. And level six is a thousand something. You know, it's all in multiples of four.

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  36. I get on the weeds on just like how the passport works and stuff. So, this is stuff about these communities that I think are utterly fascinating, right? They're all built on the blockchain. These are all tokens. You should theoretically be able to sell them and resell them. On the website, it says aoki credits are erc 1155 nfts, they're on ethereum. You buy a bunch of those and you can trade them in for an aoki verse passport, which is itself an NFT. So when you trade them in, and there's 30,000 NFTs that the credits to start. When people trade them into you, you get them back. Do you get to resell them?

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  37. Also, got the next chapter of Dominion X, my first NFT drop. I did character X, and then we launched with stupid buddies, Seth Green's Stop Motion Animation Company, created Demin X. Seth and I were doing the DemeX NFT collection, the PFP is coming soon with exclusive early access to just passport holders.

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  38. Dude, I swear to God, every time I've like announced, like I talked about this in Twitter spaces, everyone's so excited. The thing like we do collabs, my brand Dimok fashion, like our merch line, we do tons of licensing deals with really big anime and cult IPs that I love. I grew up with like Matrix and gremlins to now my little pony to like Naruto, Dragon Ball Bleach, Attack on Titan, things like that, a lot of anime stuff. But the first dropper doing is going to be exclusive. We're going to do an exclusive collection of My Little Pony for all the AV members.

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  39. Ray Kurzweil, like scientists, thinkers, the probably one of the most exciting collabs I've never done that I'm putting out to this space, the ether, hopefully it comes back, is doing a record with Elon Musk. Yeah. You know, I just like to me. I just see the spirit of someone in the studio with me when I'm creating. You know, it can turn into something beautiful. But in any case, a lot of stuff happening at my shows, that kind of access to shows I'm already doing, the shows that we're going to be creating, and drops obviously physical drops, digital wearable drops, the digital drops, combining both. I think one thing that's really exciting to announce here too is the first collab that we're doing with my little pony.

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  40. Everything that we just said, it's a social club, it's a membership community, it is Web2, Web3, IRL, all combined into one because there is the real world utilities and offerings. The live shows, there's actually one person that made it to the highest level, level six on level six. One of the offerings is I'm going to make a record with this person. They're going to come to the studio. We're going to make a record and we're going to release it together. And it's going to be Steve Aoki and XYZ, you know, dropping a record. And here's the thing. I don't just work with musicians and artists. I made a song Bill Nye. I made a song with JJ Abrams.

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  41. There's some alpha there. What's exciting is that, like, I want to do this just for the citizens of the Aoki verse because part of being in the AOK verse, you get a passport and you can grow your passport and level up your passport.

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  42. And that's also important when I created the Aoki Verse membership community is that we have to be real time. We have to deliver fast. And, you know, some other projects that I was part of, I wasn't seeing the delivery as fast as I would like. And this is where I was like, this is something when I created the AOC verse. I was like, wow, there are like multi-layers to what we can deliver to this community. real-time, real world stuff. You know, I'm excited to do these shows. I'm doing the first AOK verse only event exclusively for Passport holders during NFTLA. So that's about to happen. We haven't even announced it yet, so you guys definitely.

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  43. Certain things that you love, certain things you believe in, and you understand the communities. And that's the other thing, too, is the community side of NFTs is just as important as the art, the technology behind it, the utilities behind it, the communities is really, really important. By far, the community that are part of each of these projects Far more important than any other industry I've ever been a part of whether you're like an investor in Tesla and you're like part of the you own the stock and you you have a voice you know essentially it's very similar but this is way more of a two-way street way more transparent way more real time

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  44. In collectibles, believes in crypto. There's a lot of different reasons why I jumped in, and that's also why I jumped in. There's so many different angles of why it makes sense to me. On the collecting side, on the investing side, on the curating side, on the creative side, there's just so much more I can participate in. And at the same time, I was getting into cards, sports cards, Pokemon cards. you know, later on down the line, I formed my own TCG company with the founder of a that was already developing this particular brand. And we're doing absolutely incredible with this. So I'm heavy into the card world, to that whole space, that collectible space, right? So it's like on the collecting side for NFTs, I'm already there. Like, you know.

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  45. Like a crypto believer. So I think that's actually the foundation is important. Like I'm already pretty savvy in the space before I was in the NFTs. During COVID, that was the opportune time. It really was for everyone like me that has some money to invest, believes in alternative investments, believes in art.

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  46. You just have to accept that your brain isn't going to be able to adjust so quickly and you're just going to have to just fail a little bit in like the first part. But once I'm going, I catch up and I'm like riding on my horse and I'm good. I am flying. But like I always accept that like, you know, it's just part of who I am. Luckily I have some leniency from people that are listening to me to kind of give me some benefit of the doubt.

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  47. What's even more difficult is because I've master of the nap. I think this is far more difficult. So it's like, you know, I did five different countries in 40 hours, five shows in 40 hours. So the only ounces of sleep I was getting was on the transportation. I remember like one show, like we're literally, I was driven right to the back of the stage. I could hear them chanting my name. I'm on and I'm still asleep. I can hear them. And they're like, my manager's like shaking my arm like, you got to hit the stage right now. We just arrived and they're chanting your name and like you have to and like, you know, 30 seconds is all I really needed. And I just got stage and boom like, you know, you just feel it, you know, like I'm just excited. Like at the end of the day, just follow the excitement and the passion. And yes, when I go from like, let's say the polar opposite mental hats that you're talking about.

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  48. So, one of the things I find in my life is I wear a bunch of hats. One of them is a management hat, one of them is a creative hat, one of them is a podcaster hat. Switching context for me from it's my creative time to I'm talking to other people about other stuff is I need to schedule that time to be creative. Switch modes. Do you have to do that? Are you a mental athlete? Can you just go from one to the other? Like, can you walk out of a business meeting and write on stage?

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  49. So important to be optimal so that I go into things with my team. And they have to be optimal too. You have to have like just like I was talking about before. It's like the team you pick has to be with you. We're going together, we're moving forward at this speed, at this pace, this tempo, and the train does not stop. And I like that. You have to want that. You have to like that. You have to train like an athlete. I love this kind of bootcamp mentality though. physical, mental, spiritual bootcamp.

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  50. I will make it there however way I need to. I will do whatever in my power it is. But sometimes the act of God comes or I just get sickness or whatever it is and that's it. Like I just can't go. I mean, this is like, it's not just shows or just an aspect of one thing I do in my life that's really important. So I try to really maintain that alongside everything else. And in order to do all that, in order to be able to make it to all those things, you have to be a mental athlete. There is no other choice. If I've decided to take on all this stuff,

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