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Steve Hilton

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first: 2017-04-19
most recent: 2017-04-19
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“That's what I'd like to see happen. And the tools are there. But in the end, I call the book direct was called More Human. Designing a world where people come first. The reason I called it more human because I think the world needs to become more human.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not a substitute for it. I think it can help by what we're trying to do, give people information and tools to get involved, but then they need to meet in the real world.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Can get involved, and it's just So, very last question, and briefly, because we've got to get going, Mark Zuckerberg has written about the idea of this collapsed community and the need to. Part of what he's done is created the collapse. Can online really help return that or does it just create more isolation, if you could give me? It's not a substitute for it”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Literally, you know, there are sort of mechanisms you can use that get people together working together, you know, like literally control of the local park rather than some distant bureaucratic authority. If they suddenly, if you transfer ownership and they're responsible and they can get involved. And it's just a stupid example, but there are so many things like that that you can do to give people power and control. And then that is a way of bringing together the social interactions that build community.”
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“Part of it really is. That's the bit that we can do something about, which is within the political system. But I think the reform agenda is much bigger than that. And I think if you do that, you start to repair the social fabric that has really broken down a lot of these places. And so I just saw very clearly, you know, in the UK, we tried to do a bit of this. If you actually...”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the other thing that's collapsed is this sense of apart from the economic security is this sense of people having control over the things that matter to them. It feels like, and this is where it gets to the structure of capitalism and companies getting too big as well as government getting too centralized. It feels like everything is just so bureaucratic and some people are making decisions about your community with the shops that get built, what happens to your environment around you and you have no way of influencing it. And so I think that decentralization of power, putting power back in people's hands. Decentralizing about a local government, really taking a stand against companies that just get too big, trying to localize the economy. I think that all of this is part of giving them tools.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do anything, of course you'll feel, and it's actually, you're literally, you can't pay a bill if you have to pay. And even if you get a job, you can't live on it. And that's why you have to work all hours and you can't see your kids. The whole thing is a nightmare. And that is true for a lot of those people. So I just think that basic economic growth is a good start. But I think then...”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I get it. I think that, again, to be too repetitive, but I think this is a very basic thing of faster economic growth will help a lot of these things. The problem is for a lot of those people that you describe what you've seen is for them is a total collapse of economic security. It's just when you're just anxious about money the whole time you can't really”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not so much. So, last question. I think one of the things I think about a lot is that there is a, I think a lot of what's happening is there's a group of people who love the future and have benefited from it. There's a group of people that love the future but haven't benefited and are a little scared of what it's going to do to them. And then there's a group of people that are just hate the future, have not gotten badly impacted from it. It's a third, a third, a third in this country. And it's the people in the middle that I think is where we have to talk to because the ones on the end, they're just not going to go along. They're not going to, you know, or maybe they have to be pulled along in sorts of ways. How do you mend the gaps? Because it seems, you know, in Europe, everywhere, it seems just.”
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“The Global Council of Jewish People who are out to get us, you know, that all hangs off of it all the time. They never disengage from those people, which is, I think, interesting, unless you enjoy them too. I don't suspect you do, but...”
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“And it is uncritical of any of those components globalization and centralization and so on. And really casual about the human impact of all of those policies. And I think that's the good part of what he represents. And I wish that that would actually be the whole of the...”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think he's a really interesting character, and I find myself, when I've read some of the things he said, And looked at, I found myself in real agreement over some of them where he's talking, for example, he very much echoes what I argued in my book. He used this phrase the party of Davos. I mean, that is, you know, and I think that that is, he's onto something there, which is a sense that for the last 30 years or so, the world has been run by, you know, regardless of who gets elected. You've had the same people in charge and it's kind of bankers and bureaucrats and accountants and they got a technocratic agenda, which is pro-globalization, pro-centralization. We are all okay with big mergers and automation. There is an agenda there.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, in the end, there's a deal to be done, but I think he needs to do it and not think that it can happen with Paul Ryan and his game.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's right. And so I think this is the thing that's right, you know what I mean? Right. So, but I think there is a chance. Why would they help them?”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think he needs to really. I tell you one thing, I think he really needs to do is ignore the Republicans in Congress. I think that's one of the things that's gone wrong is that he was elected as a different kind of politician, not basically an independent, not Republican at all. And yet, I think very quickly, the kind of tentacles of the Republicans in Congress with all their kind of ideological obsessions, and in fact, exactly have kind of got hold of the administration. And I think that's what clearly went wrong with the healthcare thing. I think he's got to ignore them.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To really put something together that is exciting. I think that's exactly the kind of thing the president likes. He is a really cool, positive thing. That will make a difference rather than constantly yelling and complaining.”
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“Like, how do we make America this kind of absolutely world beating 21st century? Well, that is incredibly exciting. And Elon and Co. would be just, that's what they know. And I think that if they could come together,”
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“I think the big thing, I actually, I don't know. I mean, look, each company will have its own strategy around lobbying. As with any administration versus federal and state level, there's particular things connected with their business that they'll want to kind of argue for, and that will just go on. As an industry. Funnily, I think that what would be really cool would be to see if they could actually get together around infrastructure. That's the one I think. That term is used as, we love infrastructure. Of course, who's against infrastructure? But actually, it's not just roads and bridges. It's making roads. Right, exactly. And, you know, communications networks and not just rebuilding LaGuardia or whatever is happening anyway. So I think that.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what will you do if you're Silicon Valley? How do you interface with the Trump administration? You have Elon Musk and one hand where he thinks he can influence him. And for the better around climate change and all kinds of important issues to Elon. And then you have others that are like, no way, this is not, you know, we're not joining this American invasion. We're going to oppose on immigration. And the employee base of Silicon Valley is very Bernie Sanders around immigration, around these issues. Even transgender bathrooms, you know, this is something Silicon Valley has gone out on a limb. A lot of these social issues and it's one after the next that they seem across purposes.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, I'm very pro Arnold at the moment because he very kindly used a crowd pack communities to launch his Terminate gerrymandering campaign. So we've been.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I wouldn't stop doing it, but I would focus it on productive ends. To advance policy or, well, that's it, really. I mean, that's what he's there to do.”
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“Also, that sometimes it is useful to just say this is what's going on. But I think you've got to be much more judicious about how you use it.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I truly don't know. I have no connection with him. I think that what I had this view that maybe say, you know, a naive hope that actually he really would arrive there and be a completely different kind of leader than we've seen before, not Republican, not everybody would like a populist, but of a positive kind that would be able to unite not everyone, but a vast bulk of the Republicans and Democrats behind an agenda with one focus, which is jobs and the economy. That's the big crisis. Let's just focus on that. Let's not worry about everything else for the time being. Let's just do stuff that gets the economy moving. I think he's just about still got a chance to do that. The narcissism is so massive. It's diminishing the chance to actually do that. I think it's the narcissism.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The only thing that really matters is that he takes action that gets the economy moving in just a broad brushway, raises the growth rate. And I think that the components of that are basically the things that are being discussed but look like they're nowhere on the horizon, which is tax reform and infrastructure. And actually, that's another example where that is something where you could get bipartisan consensus in Washington, but they don't seem to be”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the reason that I, in the end, came down on his side in the election, not that I could vote. I'm still on a green card and I'd vote, but in the end, I thought it's kind of really, you know, I can't just sort of duck out of this. I had this very strong view that whilst I didn't recognize in what he was saying an agenda of the kind that I would want to see implemented in terms of positive populism dealing with some of these things on a very basic level, I thought it's more likely if he was elected that we'd get faster economic growth. And at the very least, that would start to lift.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And instead disdained it rather than understood that it was. Pick up butter with your hand or whatever he was talking about that he was insulting a butter knife until he was like, oh, okay. His first move was attack. Which is a really interesting thing. So, how do you assess the Trump administration, what they could do now? How do you assess the first hundred days?”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think if you're not entrepreneurial, you're not going to make it. If we don't teach entrepreneurism to everybody. Like the idea of being entrepreneurial or having responsibility. I think the most effective part of JD Vance's book was his time in the military. I thought was really interesting. Interesting, which got him, he never learned responsibility, never learned how to wear a suit. He never learned.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can. And that's what we're seeing write about this in my book, but Sal Khan, who started the Khan Lab School where my kids go to school, that's a brilliant example of that, where he's really rethinking the whole model of the school precisely.”
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“Some of these men Jobs that actually the people that do them obviously they need they appreciate the money but actually if we can try and you know think about the future as jobs that people really want to do and they're rewarding. The other thing I think is really interesting to look at here is entrepreneurialism. I think that”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think the new jobs will, you know, I think that a lot of the jobs that are disappearing, you kind of want them to disappear. Not great jobs. I mean, why do we want to hang on to...”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, but I think that in that sense, but I think it's responsibility, and I thought a lot about this when I was business was corporate responsibility, I think it's got a responsibility to treat, to do the things it does in a responsible, ethical way. It's not its responsibility to solve all the problems of the world. But I think that That's where government can be smart in terms of incentives and creating a regulatory framework that makes it easier for companies to start.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but I don't buy that argument. I mean, yes, that's true of certain kinds, but I think that equally new jobs are being created. And I believe in that cycle. I think that innovation will lead to new better jobs.”
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“And so I think that that is the answer, is actually sustainable job creation and innovation outside of these kind of places where everything's booming.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Within the center of that country, you've got lots of pockets of actually really interesting stuff happening. And one piece of research I saw that was really interesting on that was where you've got a college town where not some famous university, but just a college institution of learning. a mayor or local government that kind of understands how the world works putting that together with a local employer to create modern manufacturing 3D printing you know actually there's really cool stuff happening right”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Bring some of that there, for example, and other places. So I think that's an example of, and there are others. There's been some really interesting research about college towns. And there's this sort of image that we have, I think, of everywhere in the middle of America is a total disaster. And you've got this sort of booming coast. It's like really overstated within the...”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that one of the things I really answer lies in how you started the question, which is like, actually, it's a really successful industry. It's just that the success is located in a very particular place. And we want to spread it. So I think one of the things I've seen that I like the most is Steve Case's thing. I agree with you. Third wave. No, he didn't rise of the rest, right? I think that's very cool. And he's hired JD Vance to go and spot opportunities in J.D. Vance, who's part of Mr. Teal's world. And he is going to Ohio to, you know, see if we can.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So what can the political system do? Because tech number one is one of our greatest industries in this country. It's the one that's actually successful that seems to be continuing to be successful despite incursions from China and other countries. If you're the political advisor to tech, they were super slow off the mark with Trump. Then they looked acquiescent. Then they got mad. It seems like, and then there's all these people now from Mark Pincus with his WTF organization, and you've got Sam Altman doing a bunch of stuff. Every day I meet with some other dot-com billionaire who wants to start their own pack. It seems somewhat dissipated and very soft. Well, I talked to that.”
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“And it was when the, you know, so in Brazil, for example, when you had all the iPhones coming in through, you know, grey market through Miami, whatever the hell was going on, then finally they relented and said, okay, we'll build a damn factory there.”
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“Both said unless you build your factories here, unless you tell Foxconn to build the factories here, we're going to put 100% tariff on your products. They did.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But is it their responsibility? I mean, you know, somebody says you should move an Apple factory into Kansas or Kentucky or whatever. Well, they built it here, or they built it wherever. Are they really responsible just because they created innovation to, I mean, I don't feel like it's Silicon Valley's fault that Detroit failed. You know what I mean? I agree with you.”
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“When I was at good business, and when I ran this company Good Business and started that to try and harness the social power of brands to do good, a lot of this is very deep and have been going on for decades. And particularly in relation to sort of raising children and all the evidence now about what happens in the early years before they even get to school. First childhood experience. Right, all of that. I write about all that. I know this is my real passion, actually. That's what I really, really focus on in government. I think that business can make a big contribution there.”
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“I do think tech companies and clever people around here can help with that. And I think some of that already is happening. You know, in terms of rethinking the school system, rethinking how training is being delivered, companies like Udacity and others, you know, I just think there's a lot you can contribute. That's the real question. It's not about, what do we think about H1V visas, whatever. You know, that's like trivial in comparison to the reality that you've got huge proportion of Americans who are really screwed by their inability to be product. And so that is the heart. And now the causes of that are multiple and include, like we were talking about earlier, family, you know, family breakdown the way kids are raised parenting. There's a lot, again, there that I think business can contribute to going right back to what we were talking about.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that the real, you know, okay, the kind of core question is This is like really big trends in the economy automation and so on. It's like what do we do to improve the productive capacity of everyone so that they are of value to an employer or have the tools to start their own businesses?”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, we've got the Woody Gethry populism, which is always lovely to hear those songs, but it does degenerate into ugliness around immigration, around. And this is something that Silicon Valley. I just love to get your thoughts on why that happens. And then what is a place like Silicon Valley, which is the coastal elites 100% defined, do about that? Because they're not simple people.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wow, that message is absolutely brilliant. You're going to do so well. I really liked a lot of his message. And they overlap, I guess, between Sanders and Trump, which you might describe as a focus on working people and then he's not the elite and the rich. Concern about”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, there you go. And I think that there's a lot of the elements, and actually, this is not just a Trump thing, it's also Bernie Sanders. I had a lot of time for his message. I really, really, I remember when he declared, a lot of people mocked him, oh, the ridiculous guy, this old man standing on the steps, whatever. I remember watching him Steps of Congress doing his announcement how amateur he's not got a chance. I remember watching him that first Sunday as on the George Steppeloff's show and I just thought,”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I really wanted I hope it's casual, but I think the idea is to focus on, I've thought really hard about how to define what I want to argue for And the phrase I've got to is positive populism.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is a very long winded way of answering your Fox question, which is that then they were concerned in Brexit. I did a few things with Fox also around the time my book came out here. And just did more with Fox, and then that happened. So, what do you mean by the next?”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And actually, you know what? I thought I like this. I like making my own arguments saying what I think rather than just being behind the scenes. Get on it. Whisper.”
2017-04-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Steve Hilton, CEO, Crowdpac · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. Anyway, that, and so for the first time, actually, I'd come out from behind the scenes. I was actually. On TV making arguments rather than being this kind of shadowy weird advisor that went around on a bike and no shoes, all that stuff, right? And here I was actually”
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