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Steve Inskeep

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first: 2023-10-12
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“Yeah, everything is performative, and a lot of the differences seem to me to be about shallow differences or memes almost, rather than serious substantive differences, even though there are obviously big divides and big issues facing the country which we could talk about. But here is a current world example. Joe Biden early in his presidential campaign.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Joseph Gillespie is the key person that I'm thinking of who had been a friend of Lincoln's for 20 years. In fact, they'd been in the state legislature together. They were close friends. And yet Gillespie had these nativist views that were so repulsive that Lincoln could hardly bear to talk to the guy when he went off about it. And yet Lincoln wrote him again and again, said do everything you can to get your voters, who, interestingly enough, were called the American voters. Get your voters to vote for me, to vote for my side in this upcoming election. I need at least four-fifths of them. Lincoln even went and appeared on stage with... Because they have the vote so long as we do have a democracy anyway.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ever win power, I would rather move to Russia where they make no pretense of loving liberty, but he needed their votes, and he was very active in trying to get them. He had a friend actually, many friends among the nativists, and he appealed to them to get their voters for him.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And he realized that in order to build an anti-slavery majority, to have enough voters, to have a chance to win an election, he was running for the United States Senate in 1858. He desperately needed the votes of people who could be persuaded to vote against slavery, but also hated immigrants. They were nativists. They were no-nothings, as they were called at the time. There were these secret societies that had spread across the country, vowing to keep foreigners out of government and vowing to make sure that foreigners could not vote very often and talking about conspiracy theories about Catholics being used by the Pope to take over America on and on and on in some ways familiar themes that we hear about today. He realized he needed to get some of those people to vote for him. He found their anti-immigrant views disgusting. He actually said if they”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here's a really hard example a morally perilous choice that Lincoln made. He participated in building a new political party in the 1850s. It was the Republican Party. It started as an anti-slavery party. Issues were very different, and it just stood for different things than it does today. And so people should not necessarily bring whatever beliefs or prejudices they have about the Republican Party when they hear about it. It was an anti-slavery party. It was a mainstream party, and it was trying to build political support, and Lincoln took part in this in the state of Illinois.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I guess we should say, I mean, Lincoln was in many ways a partisan. He was a member in his early years of what was called the Whig Party, which was one of the two major parties, and he was a very loyal party guy who did partisan things. But he realized that he needed a majority for his point of view. And as it developed, he was an anti-slavery politician at a time when it would be hard to get 51% for any particular view of slavery. There were people who were for it. There were people who were against it. There were people who said it was evil but didn't really care or had all kinds of rationalizations for why not too much should be done about it. And Lincoln needed to assemble a coalition without giving up his principles, without giving up his basic point of view. Lincoln wanted a coalition that could win. And that, I think, is an essential skill that people seem to have forgotten the basics about today.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Unless they also have the support of more conservative people like Joe Manchin who progressives can't stand. But we could look over at the Republican Party right now. The essence of politics in a democracy, if you're going to have a democracy, is to have a majority, a majority to do the right thing or as close to the right thing as you can get away with, which seems to be something that a lot of people forget. And as you and I are talking, there's this drama that is unfolded in the House of Representatives where Kevin McCarthy couldn't keep his majority. And honestly, I mean, Matt Gates doesn't have a majority either. I have no idea, as you and I are talking what anybody's going to do to make a majority there.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You for Yeah, I started wanting to illuminate a diverse America. I was thinking about the different kinds of people that were in the United States in the 19th century. White men had all the power, or 99.99% of the power. But there were all kinds of people. And I thought if I had Lincoln meeting with a diverse group of characters, different races, different genders, different classes, different backgrounds, I would illuminate the country. But as I got into it and as things continued getting worse and worse in the journalism that I do every day, I realized difference or disagreement really was the story, not just difference, but disagreement. And I feel that that is true regardless of your political perspective at the moment. I mean, you can think about this from the Democrats' point of view, where you have very progressive people who want big change in the country and they do not have any power in Congress.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You would think that I would be, but I'm traveling and everything's always a little tricky when you travel, at least for me.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Abdul El Sayed is making the progressive case for America first, and he's trying to settle the Democrats ideological battle in the process.”
2023-10-12 · On with Kara Swisher · The Politics of Disagreement with Steve Inskeep · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT