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“Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's where Steph really, I think, sets a tone for our team. I mean, he loves playing so much. He really is like a big kid. And so the joy that we talk about is exemplified by his approach to every day. He comes in and works. I mean, he gets his work in every single day. He never misses a day of shooting and working on his body. And so he's as hard a worker as anybody. But there's this joy and ease about him that is contagious and it sets a great tone.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Couldn't be any more different as a personality, as a human being. Similar in his passion for the game and his impact in terms of game planning, what he does to the defense, I've never seen anybody do it the way he does. There's certain players where you just have to game, the other team has to game plan. Michael Jordan, Shaq, Larry Bird, like you just have to concoct a defensive scheme that's going to deal with that particular player. Not many players you can say that about, but Steph, because of his shooting ability, 35 feet away from the hill. Changes the entire strategy and the lineups that the other team has to put out there. So more than anything though, just an amazing human being, compassionate, humble, modest, funny, and then on the floor, just arrogant as all hell, which I just love.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. So that you have one of your own players' jerseys here. In my dad, I have 17 pictures of myself and then one Steph Curry because that's how I operate.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. I think that year 96 was maybe my third year, fourth year with the Bulls. So I had kind of established myself as part of the team. But then when Michael came back in 95, that's when obviously things took off for the franchise again and we won three in a row, 96 to 98. So, you know, Michael coming back just changed my whole the course of my entire career until that point I was making a living and I made it in the league and I was scrapping and clawing but when you're part of an iconic team like that it's amazing what happens individually for each guy.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Beat that record. Yeah, but we didn't finish it off. We didn't win the title. But yeah, it was an amazing group to be part of. And Tony Kukoach, unbelievable player, Ron Harper. We had so much versatility and size and length and playmakers. It was an amazing team to be part of.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, y As John Paxon had just had this great run and I was trying to find a team where I could fit, I was not an easy fit for a lot of teams, but I knew I could fit with the Bulls and I had just watched John and he was kind of an idol of mine growing up. He was a great spot-up shooter. Great spot-up shooter so I could connect with him and he was nearing the end of his career and I thought that's a role I could play. So I called them and they invited me to basically try out non-guaranteed contract, minimum contract, and that was really the key to my Career, that's what kind of got me going.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Family. Look at that hair. Wow, that's got to be college, I guess. That's pretty embarrassing. Thanks for bringing that up.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Damn right, it's you don't know what my dad looks like Of yourself with like a candlelight vigil at night where if kids have to come in and pray.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is my life that you guys put together, and so now I'm in here, and people are watching going, man, that guy loves himself, doesn't he? He just got jerseys everywhere, pictures of himself. Yeah.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sorry. You know, we agreed. Yes, absolutely. You said we've done an interview in the past. I enjoy your company. Of course, I'm going in with Axel Rep.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. I mean, even though it's technically, I guess, different. It's still the matter of a human being pulling a trigger to kill another human being. So it's the same thing. When Las Vegas happens or Texas happens. It's absolutely, it hits home for me.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure, sure. The gun lobby, but that's tied with corporate sales. I've done a lot of reading about the gun industry. And the idea of a gun safety measure makes perfect sense. You have an ID, like if I buy a gun for myself with a safety measure, you can't use it. My child can't use it. It only will work in my hand, right? That technology existed has existed for a long time. The gun makers made those 20, 30 years ago, but they weren't selling any of them. So they said, well, we're not going to make those anymore because we're not selling them. So we got rid of that. I mean, think how many lives we could save. We're not taking away your second amendment right. We're saying you can buy a gun, but it has to have a safety measure on it so that your kid can't accidentally pull the trigger. Duh, that makes perfect sense, but we're not.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, like the equivalent of city council. She actually ran for parliament kind of by a fluke. She knew she wasn't going to win. Somebody else dropped out and the party wanted to put her in. And so I talked to her about British politics. And they have a very short window for elections. And there's a very limited amount of money. In fact, to the point where what she could spend in her campaign, there was a point where she couldn't give the $150 necessary to print all the flyers and pay the people to put flyers on all the doors around the neighborhood. It might be a little extreme. But what I like about this is that you take away the huge corporate interests that eventually run the...”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shorten the election period would be a big thing and then limit the amount of money that can be spent on campaigns, limit the amount of money that can be donated from lobbying groups, and because that's really all we're doing is we're going to the highest bidder. Congress is going to the highest bidder and having to Basically compromise their ethics and morals and what's best for the country. And maybe that sounds really idealistic. My sister is a politician in England.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not really. I've really shied away from, I'm not afraid to talk about politics. I don't like our system. I hate our system. I hate the campaign financing. I hate the money that involves. I have a hard time just supporting a candidate, period. I wish we could change the whole system.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I told him when these shirts came about, we were laughing about it. And I told him, I said, if we do it, I'll take care of California, but you're going to have to get it.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Both of you guys, which is I will campaign for Pop. I will absolutely campaign for Pop. I would not be his running mate. We'd have to find another running mate for him.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is it. This is what I love to do, and I would love to be Greg Popovic and coach for the next 20 years. With the same organization, I have no desire to leave the Warriors, leave the Bay Area. I realize how far-fetched that idea is because NBA coaches don't last for a long period of time in one city. Pop is the exception than the rule, but that would be my dream.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Didn't help with my pain and haven't tried it since, but I'm a proponent of it as a painkiller because I know it has helped a lot of people and it's much healthier than the stuff that we're being prescribed all the time.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Didn't help didn't help. I tried it. It's amazing. I've learned so much during this two years. I've been prescribed painkillers, opioids. Yeah, and have you used them? Never. I shouldn't say never. I tried one pill and it was so disconcerting. And it didn't help with my pain. And so I stopped, but I started reading about it. It was terrifying. And so I tried medicinal marijuana, and that didn't help either, unfortunately. But I became an advocate for it, which is very ironic because I was a kid in high school who never, I took a puff of marijuana for the first time on my 40th birthday. And it didn't do anything for me. I was a drinker in college, and I still am. I like my beer and wine, but never even tried pod until I was 40, didn't do anything for me, tried it again in a medicinal way.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, more than anything, it just impacts my ability to just enjoy the day. It doesn't impact my coaching. It doesn't, cognitively, it doesn't do anything. It's just discomfort. It's pain and discomfort. So I love to be outdoors. I love to play golf. I love to hike and surf. And I haven't been able to do as much of that. So there's just not as much freedom in my life, but I'm still hopeful that I'm going to get through it. It's a long process and I've figured out some things that have helped and I'm hoping.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I still am. I still deal with chronic pain every day. It's no fun. I had a back surgery. What I thought was a routine back surgery 2015 right after the finals. And unfortunately, there's no such thing as routine back surgery. I didn't really realize that at the time. I've had a lot of friends who have had disc surgeries and done great, and I thought no-brainer. But I had a spinal fluid leak, which can cause a lot of problems with equilibrium and cause a lot of pain and been dealing with it ever since.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so he would always pass out books on the circus trip. I don't do that, but I have a lot of conversation with our guys one-on-one. I really enjoy it. David West is one of the most interesting guys to speak with about the world, about his view of our country, social policy. I mean, he's a really, really sharp, fascinating guy. I'm interested to see what he does with his life after he's retired. But I would say more individual conversation behind the scenes than anything.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've given a lot of our players books. It's not a routine, but I've given probably four or five of our players' books just based on something that I read that would seem to connect with that player. Sometimes basketball related, sometimes not. But it's not a routine like it was with Phil. Phil did it every year. We had what we call the circus trip in Chicago. The circus would come to the United Center.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot of time together, and so those discussions usually aren't as a group, they're more individual, maybe at a team dinner, but occasionally we will have a group discussion about a social topic or a political issue, and guys will get into it, but it's not a common theme for Jill.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We haven't talked about that particular issue. We've talked about a lot of social issues and political things over the few years that I've been here. That one hasn't come up yet. Maybe it will. I don't know. But yeah, there's sort of an organic quality to all this stuff. We're basketball players. We're a team. We're trying to win games. And so we just kind of go about our business. invariably you know something”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was embarrassed. My mom was so disappointed in me. I do have a bad mouth. That's a flaw. And I snap sometimes. And yeah, they caught me on film. And I was so embarrassed. My daughter sent me the meme that was going everywhere on the internet. And I felt awful. It's fine to snap. It's a competitive environment and obviously we all get angry on the sidelines. I can't use those words.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Supportive and you're emotionally there, and you're loving and you're caring, but every once in a while you just got to snap and remind them of the goal and what we're trying to accomplish. And occasionally during the season that happens, and I try to steer them back on course, but it has to be natural too. It has to come from the heart. And that's the key. If everything is authentic and you trust each other, then the whole group dynamic will work.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's right. And yet you have to maintain your authority over the group. And that's sort of the trick. And that's where Phil and Pop were really powerful. When I played for both of them, there was a part of me that was a little afraid of them. Just a little. But I knew how much they loved me, how much they respected me, how much they cared about me. And that combination was really powerful. Your team can't walk all over you. So I would say about three times a year, I just snap and I go nuts. And it's almost like, you know, if you don't want to disappoint your dad, right? And if your dad is very patient, that's how my dad was. My dad was very, very patient my whole life. But every once in a while he'd get so upset. And I'd be like, oh my God, I don't want to disappoint him. And I think that can be the role of a coach or any leader. You're magnanimous and you're...”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, I think you can make a connection to anybody and anything because it's still, whether you're in the business world or sports or education, it's still about a group of people working together and trying to achieve something. And so I think you can make those connections all the time.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, for sure, and accepting the judgment and the criticism that's coming, sometimes we make fun of it. We might show somebody's tweet or somebody's comment in a film session just as a reminder of how silly this whole existence is that everything we do is scrutinized the way it is. So we try to make light of it if we can and then really zero in on what's important, which is not just how we're going to guard the pick and roll, but what's important to each player. We let family come on flights. Popovich was...”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That helps. It makes a lot easier. My job is so much easier because I pattern myself after those guys in terms of the dynamics I just mentioned, just the joy that comes with playing and the continuity and the relationships. If we didn't have great talent, I would have been fired by now. It's just the nature of the NBA. So everything is about talent and what you can do with it.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Where every day is fun and you're building and building and building. And obviously they would both readily admit that when you have great talent.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think what makes a great coach is the connection, the authentic connection between player and coach and the awareness of what that player needs. And as a whole, what the team needs and how to keep the ship moving forward. And it's not about X's and O's. That's a part of it. But there's lots of people out there who can draw up a great play. It's about the human connection. And that's where Popovich and Phil Jackson were so brilliant. I think head and shoulders above everybody that I can think of in terms of motivating not by let's go get him team, but motivating by finding what's important to you, connecting with you emotionally, learning about your family, keeping things interesting and fun and different. And the cumulative effect of all that is you get this great sort of cruising sensation through the”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hot and Fitzsimmons, who was underrated in the history of NBA coaching, a great coach. I played for him my rookie year in Phoenix, a real character.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How to do it. And part of the way he did it was challenging you all year and getting you ready for that moment. And I think he did that with a lot of us. And like I said, it's not easy, but it was successful.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So Well, he learned, you know, I think the guy who helped Michael break through in his own career was John Paxon. Phil Jackson was the guy who I think went to Michael and said we're going to run this triangle offense where everybody's going to touch the ball because we can run any offense and you're going to score 30 a game. But these other guys need an offense to help and they need you to get them shots. Early in his career, I don't think Michael really understood that. I think Phil helped him understand it, but the game that was the breakthrough, I think, in terms of Michael's view of basketball, and this is totally my own opinion, I've never asked him this, but game five of the finals against the Lakers in 91, and he comes down and they keep double teaming him and he keeps finding John Pax and Paxt made five straight shots to close the game out. Bulls win the championship. From that moment on, I think Michael realized not only that he had to trust his teammates, but”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to beat anybody, but I will fight people. I'm going to lose every time, but I've got a competitive, insecure streak in me that I want to win so badly. When I was playing, I knew I wasn't that good. I knew I was the worst athlete on the floor every night. And so I was insecure. But the only way to succeed was just to compete and work and fight scrap and claw. And so it led to a few moments like that.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Michael was like the most intense practice player I've ever been around, and his theory was that he was going to put pressure on all of us every day in practice so that we'd be ready for the playoffs and the pressure that comes with adversity. And so it was not easy being his teammate. He challenged you. You had to stand up to him and prove your worth. And so we got into it one day. It was just a competitive practice and there was trash talking. You know, we got into it a little bit. I mean, it's something that happens, frankly, probably three times a year on every team. But when Michael Jordan is involved, it gets a little more.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But by the minute, every single step these guys take, everything they do, everything they say is critiqued and judged. So that's a big part of being a professional athlete these days is dealing with all that stuff and still being able to perform at a high level.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He made every shot. He didn't make every shot. And if you can make half of them in the clutch, you're doing really well. But that means you're going to fail half the time. And so you have to be able to accept failure. It's the hardest thing for me to accept early in my career. I was not a clutch player, not a clutch shooter because I was too self-conscious. I was too insecure about the judgment that would come my way. I didn't want to be the goat. And I finally kind of got over that hump halfway through my career where I just said, screw it, just, you know, you got to go for it. So that was something I had to work at. A lot of guys, like Steph Curry, I guarantee you, he's never thought one time about it. Oh my gosh, I wonder what happens if I'm going to admit. He just goes out there and plays. No conscience, I think, is a conscience. And it's especially difficult today, the amount of judgment that he exists for these guys, these young guys. I mean, we are getting judged not just daily.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. I still remember Michael had this commercial when he was still playing, talking about how many times he missed the game-winning shot. I can't remember if it was probably Nike commercial. And, you know, it was like, I've missed.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's a really, it's one of the fun things about coaching is you get to really see somebody's soul and what they're about. And everybody obviously in the NBA brings something to the table. I mean, they're all such talented players or they wouldn't be here. But there's certain guys who just seem to rise above the rest of them. And it's fearlessness, it's lack of self-consciousness. It's work ethic. It's prepping for that moment. And all the best players, you mentioned, you know, Tim Duncan, Michael Jordan, Larry Byrd, all the best guys are the ones that had the most skill combined with the guts that you're referencing. And that's an amazing combination.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What the hell is going on around here? But it was such a beautiful moment out of the mouths of babes, whatever the expression.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, it was so bizarre. This was my senior year, so this was almost five years after my dad's death, it was probably three or four ASU students probably drunk, started chanting PLO, which obviously was just a, I guess you called it a course reference. Yeah, I mean, PLO had nothing to do with it, right? But that's beside the point, right? It was just they were trying to get in my head. And I just, I was so shocked. I actually just sat down on the bench and started crying. I was kind of like this. My couple teammates came over and put their arm around me. And the thing I remember more than anything was this little boy. I still remember it, clear as day, this little boy with an ASU shirt came eight, ten years old, tapped me on the shoulder. And he said, he said, Mr. Kerr, I'm so sorry. You know, those guys don't know what they're talking about or something. And, you know, now I'm like.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Phoenix has always tried to sort of get Tucson in the mix in terms of sun's The fan base. So I think there was a little bit of a favor, but I got my foot in the door and then I was able to carve out a niche over the course of.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had some skill. I could always shoot. And everything else in my game started to catch up. You know, I was there five years at Arizona. I got stronger. Not that I was ever that strong or fast, but I got strong and fast enough. And I worked on everything that I wasn't great at. And I had an innate sense of the game. I saw the game. I felt it. And I thought I would coach. I thought I would eventually go into coaching. But I think what happened was our team got so good and Lud Olson was such a great coach that by the time I left we went to the Final Four, we had Sean Elliott who was national player of the year. We had like five guys who ended up going on and playing in the NBA. And so being part of this amazing team gave me a name and it propelled me to at least getting a chance in the NBA and the Phoenix Suns drafted me almost as a favor.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Interesting. I follow it. You know, then there are times where it's like, I'm tired of this. My brother, my older brother never reads anything about the Middle East. I just think what happened with our dad just shut him down completely from following Middle East politics. I still have an interest in it, but there are times when it's just so demoralizing because it's just same stuff going on and on.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On Woodenera, my brother and I would, we had two season tickets. My dad wanted to go. My brother and I would fight over the season ticket. The other one. And then finally we resolved it because I became a ball boy. So they would sit in the stands and I was down on the floor wiping up the court.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, he wouldn't believe it. He wouldn't believe it. I mean, I wasn't even recruited out of high school. I didn't secure the scholarship to Arizona until literally about a month before school started. And so this would have been so far-fetched. But my dad loved sports. He loved basketball. We used to go to the UCLA games when I was John Wood.”
2017-11-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 194 - Steve Kerr · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source