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“Absolutely. And it's also different underneath the top line numbers, right? There's been shifts in some of the groups that Biden was strong with. Trump has lost some with some other voters, but just the coalitions are potentially shifting, presuming these numbers are giving us an accurate portrayal of what's happened. And then it gets even more complicated when you add in potentially extremely well-funded, well-known third-party candidates like an RFK junior, a Joe Manchin or some other no-labels candidate. These folks on the ballot lowers that number where someone could win a state with 37% of the vote as opposed to the 49 or 50 you would need to win like there was in 2020.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We haven't seen it very much polling since Nikki Haley's comment on the Civil War that got so much attention. But from folks you've talked to or some of the maybe the NBC reporters on the ground, have you heard anything about that stalling her momentum at all?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's a very different Republican Party the one we're talking about now. And also notable is in that period between Iowa and New Hampshire happened in quick succession. And then there's a gap between New Hampshire and South Carolina. And that, how these candidates navigate that gap will determine their success. McCain made some mistakes, but also the Bush folks launched a vicious assault against them. Now, that seems likely seems like beamback compared to Republican politics in the Trump era of some of the things they did, although there were some pretty nasty rumor campaigns and phone and mail campaigns about McCain that were pretty scurrless. But, I mean, that, you know, I think that that's the, I assume that's the period you'll be watching if Haley has any successes. Can she survive that assault from Trump?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Interesting you raise how popular DeSantis is with Republicans because I think people who are just not looking at the polling just following the news coverage, we sort of shocked about that. Trump has been relentless in his mocking and bullying, frankly bullying of DeSantis. There have been a bunch of negative ads about DeSantis. He's been memeified on social media and cable news for his awkwardness and his weird encounters with people. And the narrative of the race is Trump is strong. And if anyone is surging, it is Haley. And I think it is true that Haley has, albeit a narrow one, a clearer path to possibly winning. But DeSantis is 20 points more popular in a lot of these polls. And one of the most interesting dynamics is that as Haley is quote-unquote surged, mainly in New Hampshire, the number of Republicans in the polling who are open to voting for her has gone down nationally. And her approval rating has gone down. Can you talk a little bit about that dynamic?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On Caucus Night, when those first results start to come in, are there specific counties or voter groups or turnout numbers you'll be looking for that could possibly suggest that something is upsetting the Apple cart of what we all expect, a huge Trump win?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The challenge, I think, for Haley in that scenario is that in most of the polling that I've seen to date, the second choice of DeSantis voters is not Nikki Haley. Donald Trump, and in some senses, if I was sitting in the Hilly campaign, what I want is DeSantis to grow stronger because the second choice of Trump voters is not Nikki Haley, it's Ron DeSantis. And so I guess ultimately you're going to get to the one-on-one point at some point. And therefore, and you're going to need a bigger available universe than she currently has. But you talk a little bit about the role that second choice plays in sort of how people game out these strategies.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You drew the parallel between this race in 2000. And in that parallel, Trump is George W. Bush, something he would probably not take very kindly to. Or maybe George W. Bush probably wouldn't neither. Yeah, that's right. And Haley is McCain. Given that and given Haley's strength in New Hampshire, are you surprised that Haley's even competing in Iowa? Because Trump, because McCain famously did not compete in Iowa, did not compete again in Iowa in 2008 and put all of his chips in New Hampshire. It helped him at least stay alive in 2000. And it helped him become the nominee in 2008. Have you been surprised by strategic decision from the Haley folks?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It seems like based on the ad traffic and what people are saying on the stump that DeSantis and Haley are basically competing against each other for second. And the goal for either one of them is to leave there with some measure, something they can hang on to that says, I have momentum heading into what comes next. What do you think success looks for either one of them coming out of Iowa?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, it is wild, you know, if you were someone sitting back in 2016. Soldiers in the Christian right movement for years beforehand, and now they're picking someone who really has been unable to quote a Bible verse for his entire time in public life.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The bolster. I think that's a very important point because, and maybe you can help explain this to our listeners because many of whom may have tuned in, started paying close attention to politics, listening to Pazzi America, watching election nights with Steve Cornaki after 2016, after Trump won. The Iowa Caucus has not picked the Republican nominee for nearly a quarter century now. So why should people care about what's happening on the 15th?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We are two weeks away from Iowa. We are about to head onto a quick succession of New Hampshire, South Carolina, Super Tuesday, and then basically every Tuesday for a while is going to be an election night. How are you preparing? Have you been doing cardio? Are you standing in front of a board to train for a long period of time? What do you do to get ready?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Before the break, two big Pods AVA America schedule updates. First, starting January 16th, we have a new three-day a week schedule with episodes dropping Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, because let's face it, there's too much going on to cover in just two episodes each week that takes overflow with, as they say. Second, tune into the two episode special of On the Ground in Iowa for Tommy's on-site analysis of the GOP caucus and what it means for the pivotal election year ahead. Listen to it on the Pod Save America feed starting January 10th. When we come back, Steve Cornaki. Joining us now as someone who needs no introduction to political junkies, the man behind the magic wall, MBC National Political Correspondent Steve Kornaki. Steve, welcome to the pod.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that is the hard part with all of these comparisons of Trump to authoritarians and dictators and white supremacists is they are substantively correct or spiritually correct in what he is pushing for. But the challenge is Donald Trump was just president three years ago. And so when you say Donald Trump's going to be a dictator, people didn't see the right or wrong. People did not see the original Trump presidency as a dictatorship. They may have found a lot of things problematic about it. You know, post some threads with pictures of Trump and Hitler to make a point. Like, that's fine. That's not really, that's just sort of inside baseball. But on the larger argument about Trump is an authoritarian, Trump is a Nazi, Trump is a dictator, it's, I think it is a more challenging case to make than a lot of us would like it to be.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Biden campaign has been getting much more aggressive with Trump in recent weeks. In a CNN report, it said that they Biden campaign jokes about going, quote, full Hitler for the moments in which they feel they can compare Trump to the Nazi leader. Are you surprised we've gotten to the Hitler comparisons by January of 2024?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Repealed, it could mean he will be the bulwark against the federal abortion ban that a Republican Congress wants to pass. All of those things like that. But congressional Democrats always want this. And it matters, but it is not decisive in my opinion.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think even less than before because people are just so as cynical as people were when we were trying to get Barack Obama re-elected. They're even way more cynical now. So if Joe Biden stands up and says, I'm going to do this big, huge thing for the voters that he most needs to win over, they're going to be pretty skeptical that he can get that done. That's not even really about Joe Biden. It's just about a broken political system. And so you along with that, he'll need a theory of change. Like what can he do that what can he get done? Is he going to get a trifecta without enough senators to not be benevoled by the filibuster? It's going to be hard to sell that to the press given the Senate map. But yes, you're going to need some things to say. You're going to want, because people have to answer, he's going to have to answer questions and canvas are going to have to answer questions at the door. Like, what does it mean for me? And what does it mean to me, can be protecting the progress we've made? It can mean ensuring the ACA is.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean. Yes, of course you need to say something about what you're going to do if you're reelected. I mean, that is table stakes, the state of the union will be for Biden as it was for Obama the first place to begin to lay that out. And there will be specific policies involved and there's even in some of these stories there are some ideas previewed around taxes on stock buybacks, additional efforts to protect the Affordable Care Act, which are obviously specific contrasts against Republican economics, against Trump's pledge to repeal the ACA. That will sort of ladder up to the convention speech, which will be the next biggest audience the president will have, or that hopefully that will be the biggest audience the president has, even bigger than say the union, to lay out his vision. The vision is more important than the details of the vision, and the details need to be essentially proof points for the kind of president Biden will be in a second term. What's the details of the white paper is not really going to matter, and it's going to matter.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I guess the question is what else do you think Biden needs to be doing on top of this? CNN reports, and you're going to be shocked by this, that congressional Democrats want him to spend more time laying out a second-term agenda. What do you think the right balance is here?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. I just think Joe Biden fighting is good, just the image of him. He gave a very good speech on the one-year anniversary of January 6th that was very powerful. I did it from the Capitol. Something like that that just shows energy and vigor and that he's taking on this very real threat is good politics for him. So I think this is the right thing to do. It doesn't mean he's not going to talk about inflation and his accomplishments and all the other things are going to be part of this.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Will democracy and freedom be part of the campaign? Absolutely. The anniversary of January 6th the exact right time to highlight that message because you might get it covered? Absolutely. And to your point on the ad where it'll run, where it'll run, if they put that out that information, I don't know. But they gave it exclusively to Morning Joe. It's just to show that he's out there fighting. And I think that is probably even more important than what he says and does on January 6th. And I should note actually the speech was supposed to be on Saturday, which is the anniversary of January 6th, but there is apparently a blizzard coming to the East Coast. And so they moved it up a day so they could make sure they actually got to give the speech, which is another example of just how.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think that's right. It would be, I think, somewhat naive to think that this is the full, here we are here on January 4th, getting the full view of how Joe Biden's going to run against Donald Trump, who's not yet the nominee.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What do you think of the Biden campaign strategy of focusing so much attention on January 6th and the threat to democracy as opposed to issues like inflation, the economy, the border, that sort of stuff?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Speaking of 2024, President Biden is kicking off the new year by ramping up his campaign with a focus on the threat Trump process to democracy. On Friday, he's giving a speech in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania to mark the third anniversary of the January 6th insurrection. And on Monday, Biden heads to Charleston to speak at the historically black church where nine parishioners were killed by a white supremacist in 2015. They also launched this ad.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Highlight his greatest vulnerability. It's not that EG Carroll trial is an example of just what a disgusting human being he is. But talking about the January 6th case and all of those things, he's shining a light on his greatest general election vulnerability at the exact moment when voters are beginning to pay attention. And that could be a mistake in the long run, right? I don't think Trump's not known as a long-term thinker, but I do think he is a real risk in what he's doing. And for only what are likely to be marginal gains in a primary that he is winning by. 35 points, right?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, risen, in my view, because he's not the center of attention. He's not on Twitter. He's not really on TV that much. There's a lot of TV coverage of Trump. Fewer people are paying attention to news. And they're not, most people always think this is crazy when we say this, but most people have no idea that Donald Trump is about a month from being the Republican nominee. Like that is going to blow away a large swath of Americans. And so he is deciding to”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have a, I agree that on the margins, this is probably helpful in the primary. It will suck up attention. It'll have that dynamic we just talked about forcing discussion of these elite liberal forces trying to take down Trump because he's a threat to the system, which is good for him in Republican politics and maybe good for him with even a larger swath of voters than we really would like to be comfortable with. But his Like my take on Donald Trump's rise in the polls is that he is rising in 2024 for the exact opposite reasons he rose in 2016. He rose in 2016 by dominating attention. Everything was about Trump. He became our national monoculture. He was on TV all the time. He was the topic of every conversation. It was a pop culture conversation. It was the dominant story. 2024, he's...”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, it would be a truly insane choice given just how he speaks generally. I was just like, as a general rule, as a lawyer, do not let him be under oath at any point.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One more thing on Trump, he told Maggie Habern of The New York Times, and he's going to spend a lot of time in the coming weeks at his various trials and even plans to testify in the Gene Carroll defamation case. Now, let's presume he's not actually going to testify. He said he's going to testify in every trial and he never does. But what do you think about Trump taking the time during this critical period in the primary and sitting in a courtroom again all across the country?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Engineering and insurrection. But this is, in terms of the general election, he's going to be, maybe he doesn't ends up not on the Colorado ballot, maybe not on the main ballot, maybe another place. And that will probably have some consequences for down ballot Republicans there if Trump is not pulling voters out. Like if I was like Lauren Bobert or some other Republican in Colorado, I'd be pretty nervous about my turnout without jumping the ballot. But that's all sort of, I think, small potatoes related, politically small potatoes related to the larger forces that are going to decide this election.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the long run, we're talking about two states. The Supreme Court's going to weigh in here. Other states may do it, but this isn't how, and I don't think anyone is making this argument, but this is not how we're going to beat Trump, right? It's not going to, even if it's like, I can't speak to the constitutionality of it, but if the simple question is people who engage in insurrection cannot run for president, well, guess what, Donald Trump did? And guess what he's trying to do? you know, under that view of it, yeah, he probably should not be on the ballot anywhere. And there are multiple ways in which he could have been stopped from being on the ballot dating back to the Republicans refusing to convict him at his second impeachment for.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so it's you end up in all kinds of situations where his opponents are amplifying his message. It's an opportunity cost for his opponents because they're not talking about it. Now, none of them are deaf enough to actually use this to their advantage by saying using this as example of the chaos that surrounds Trump. That's an argument for maybe why he's not our best bet to actually beat Biden because they're just one dimensional checkers players. But once again, it's helping there.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't know that the politics matter that much beyond the primary, that you were absolutely correct that the dynamic that has existed throughout this primary repeated itself here, which is something, someone does something to trump, some quote unquote unfriendly anti-magga entity, district attorney, the Department of Justice, a Democratic Secretary of State, a liberal court does something to Trump. The MAGA media machine rallies to his defense. every candidate, all of his opponents are asked, what do you think about this? Then they defend Trump.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So while Iowa may be looking good for Trump, he's got some other problems, specifically Maine and Colorado, where the state officials are attempting to remove him from the presidential ballot, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which is also known as the insurrection clause. Trump has appealed both those decisions, which will almost certainly be in front of the Supreme Court before long. Tommy, neither of us are qualified to weigh on the constitutional merits of that question, although you should feel free to do so if you would like. But what do you think of the politics? Does this help or hurt Trump? What do you make of the whole idea of kicking Trump off the ballot?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can't really, very no candidates ever really made it to South Carolina that way, right? Where you fail in South Carolina other than Joe Biden is the exception to that rule, who got no bounds out of Iowa, no bounce out of New Hampshire. Maybe a little bounce out of the Nevada caucus. And then obviously one South Carolina was the nominee like 16 seconds later.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Somehow he gets it really close and just shocks the world by losing by 15 as opposed to 30. Maybe that gives him something. He is a lot like, to use an analogy that is a little unfortunately close to your heart, which is he's a little like John Edwards in 2004, which is, even if he does well in Iowa, he doesn't have a next, he does not have a, he's not a strong, he's not strong in New Hampshire. So it's hard to get momentum out of Iowa, go to a state where you're pretty weak and then maintain that momentum heading to the next state after that because you have a weak patriot in New Hampshire and then you have a month between New Hampshire and South Carolina. Right. And that is, so if you do not have a, if you cannot get a second bounce out of New Hampshire.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And come in second to Trump, that would be the expectations, give her some additional momentum going into New Hampshire. DeSantis, I don't really know what happens unless he somehow, the polls are all wrong or they have shifted dramatically since the Des Moines Register poll right before the holidays. And he is somehow north of 30. Trump has bled. And when DeSantis gains a voter, he's usually gaining it from Trump, not someone else, because he is the second choice of most Trump voters.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, she seems Haley. I talked about this a little bit in my conversation with Steve Cornacki, which you will hear after this, but Haley seems a little betwixt in between strategy-wise. And on one hand, there is an argument, and part of the problem is that most of our money is coming through a super pack by which she has only limited influence over. And actually multiple super packs. There's an argument for.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That seems about right. Let's take a step back a little bit and look think about what's going to happen on January 15th on Caucus night. I mean, it's worth noting that Iowa awards only 40 of the 1,200 or so delegates you need to become the Republican nominee. And therefore, winning and getting all those delegates is often less important than simply just beating expectations. What do you think Haley, DeSantis, or Revake need to do to build some momentum or have something that they can attribute as success?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I mean, I don't know how much time our listeners still spend on Twitter. You spend less time, but I would say of the time you spend, much of it is just attacking Vivek.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking full Ginsburg in my head on the Sunday shows in one day. Yeah, there's”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, in hindsight, that We were working on the Obama campaign and someone would apply for credentials with right wing propaganda machine would we allow them in?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Weird. I mean, I guess it's the context here is that a Washington Post poll out this morning shows that 25% of Republicans think the FBI was involved in making January 6th happen. So maybe that's why they're upset about it.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was very, I was struck by just how defensive he was. Because clearly, this is a question he gets from donors and others. All the time. Like it was like brimming over with frustration about it. It just on top of his general awkward seemingly odious personality. It really, it isn't exactly how what the sort of message you would want to be closing with at the caucuses, right?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, are you based on what you've seen of these events? Is there anything stick out to you? Do you see any signs of momentum for anyone? What are you seeing?”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm so glad you got to go to Desa Hutchinson event. I feel like that opportunity is going to go away pretty quickly. And it's also, I think, breaking news for people on this pod, listening to this podcast. ASA Hutchinson still running for president.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right, the Iowa Caucasus are less than two weeks away. According to the 538 average of Iowa polls, Trump is above 50% in leading his rivals by more than 30 points. Tommy, you are our man on the ground in Iowa. You are in Des Moines right now.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot happened while we were off for a couple weeks. Believe it or not, the 2024 election is here. The Biden campaign is ramping up their attacks on Trump. Trump is desperately trying to stay on the ballot in two key states. And later on, NBC News election analyst Steve Kornaki will join me to break down the Iowa caucus in the upcoming primaries. Tommy, you're actually on the ground in Iowa right now doing some reporting for a special miniseries that is going to air on this feed next week. Tell us what it's been like in Iowa and what you're working on.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“John is out for the next couple of weeks because on December 22nd, Teddy Favreau was born. Everyone is happy and healthy. Everyone's home for Christmas. By all reports, Charlie is enthusiastically embracing his role as a big brother, and Leo is adjusting to yet another child invading his house.”
2024-01-04 · Pod Save America · Iowa Caucus Countdown with Steve Kornacki · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source