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Stewart Copeland

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  1. “I don't mean by making it up. I mean, like, that's a question I've never answered before. Mazelto College event was an idea of my older brother, Miles, who was the businessman of the family. And basically I called up all the colleges around the West and I said, tell me about what concerts you put on. How much did you spend? Frank Zappa, how much did he cost? Janice Joplin, how much did he pay? How'd they go down? How did this ticket? And they just send me back their report of the gig and I printed it onto what was called a tip sheet. It's just information, just data. And I would send it to all the colleges in the West so they could see the UC Santa Barbara, can see that UCLA paid Frank's $10,000. They trashed the dressing rooms or whatever. And so the colleges could use this as a data sheet.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “Because I'd outgrown the small school that I was at and I wanted to go to a big school with 40,000 students and learn from Nobel winners and so on. Just felt like a bigger, badder place.”

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  3. “How do I get a good cost? Okay, so we had a lottery system. Everybody, senators, kids, everybody was getting drafted. And so they had a lottery system. Whatever your birth date, you take your date out of a, they pull the dates out of a hat. Okay, September 27th. That's one. Okay, January 18th, that's two. Okay, April 9, that's three. And you go down to all the 365 days of the year and you get a number. Mine was July 16. And depending on what state you were in, they had a quota, Alabama had a quota. And if you're in an Alabama and you registered to vote in Alabama and your number was 47, you're drafted. If your number was high to 100 or above, you're probably safe. Well, the draft board for people who turned 18 outside of America was zero. They had a quota of zero. So as long as they didn't come to America, I was legally knocked. I registered and I...”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. “Up as heroin addicts. They didn't make it. None of them made it. He died of Agent Orange a few years ago. Taken by melanoma. That's how the Vietnam War generation was treated. And I didn't want any part of that personally. And by the time I came along, I'm at the end of the baby boom. And by the time I got to college, they'd built all these colleges and capacity for the baby boom. By the time I came along, it kind of witted out of it, so it was easy for me to get into college. You know, there's all this space. How the hell did we get there?”

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  5. “Battalion citation, presidential citation, purple heart, bronze star, he found himself and he came back and became an agent, never saw a gun for the rest of his life, but he was a wild kid who discovered that and he came back. And when he came back, he was spat on and reviled. And it was a tragedy of the Vietnam War, how the American people saw it because we were afraid that we could be sent out. It wasn't voluntary. Those weren't volunteers over there. That could be me. And he did volunteer. And he was fine until the Gulf War, the first Gulf War, and when he heard the crackle of the radios, the thump, thump, thump, thump of the helicopters, it came back and it almost, he had a psychosis for it. And then when the soldiers came home as conquering heroes, that's what how he should have been treated every single one of the soldiers in his platoon.”

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  6. “Well, I was a draftable American in spite of my pride in my country. We were fighting a war in Vietnam at the time, for which my brother had volunteered. My brother Ian, the heroic brother, actually not only did he have a motorcycle in high school, but he went to Vietnam. He volunteered. He came back and decorated Hero.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. “Family longer than I am. And in fact, another little digression, the patterns on those Persian rugs with these strangely geometric and yet curved lines and everything like that. And now I was crawling around face first on those rugs from the age of zero all the way up. And I just looked at those rugs the other day and I realized that pattern is my music. My music is exactly that, the way it's a combination of symmetry and wild abandon, the way the different colors interact with each other. I realized it was like printed with nose first, face first in these Persian rugs.”

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  8. “Hang up now. They're shooting at me personally. I never even believed these stories because it was my dad telling them. And he used to say, never let the facts ruin a good story. But the history books are being written now about that period, and my father's in there. Oh my God. And according to the books, and I didn't realize this until I found in the family archives a newspaper clippings about it, he chased them off with a gun. He had a gun. My father had a handgun. I never saw him with a gun. Alabama kid chases out bandits with a handgun. And there were in one of the Persian rugs there bullet holes. And my sisters got that rug because during those days the diplomatic wives and all the wives would go to Iran or Persia, as it was known and buy all this incredible stuff. So I have in my studio these Persian rugs that are older than I am.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  9. “And so then our new kernel that we've been shining up, he can get the soldiers out to go and put down this riot. And while the soldiers are out, they can take over the radio station and the palace. And that's how they did it in those days. And the colonel who took over the palace thought he was working against American interests, but in fact the other colonel hitherto undisclosed was the actual guy. And so his system was getting other people to do the dirty work. But okay, so this attack happens on the family home, the Copeland family home in Damascus, Syria. And they're late and my father's on the phone to Beirut. And they show up. Oh, great, great. Oh, bang. Oh, no, they got guns. That's not, you know. And then bang, bang. And the famous line that he had, which is our family thing, is he says, I have to.”

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  10. “Before I was born in Syria, wherever the family was living before I was born, and my mother was pregnant with my brother Ian, comes up in conversation a lot. And they had a problem with their general, their dictator who was running the place, Fausi al-Khadab or whatever his name was, and he was starting to talk.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. “And the Christians ruled the country. Then there was the Sunni and the Shia who were at each other's throats as much. They all, you know, there's a triangle. And that triangle with the influx of Palestinians just couldn't hold. And so civil war, and then there were really awful civil wars. The same as what's going on in Syria now. They eventually blew over, and in Beirut, Lebanon is probably more able to withstand the Syrian war next door because in Lebanon, no, no, no, no, no. We've been there. We're not the Sunnis are fine, the Shia, fine. Everybody gets to go back to work instead of the US 6th fleet showing up, the Civil War in Syria next door and their own history means they're not about to pick a fight anytime soon.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. “Okay, let's all go back to work now, shall we? And there was no violence to it. It was just a display. It was like a 4th of July exhibition kind of thing. See, these are the kind of toys we got to play with folks. Anybody, any questions? And because our, as I said before, because our status there was very positive, we were loved there. And there was an election coming up. I won't bore you with the complicated politics, but there was an election coming up and there was a lot of agitation. And so the Americans showed up. They had a peaceful election. They elected the not American guy, actually. My father was glad, but they elected Shahab instead of the guy that the Americans wanted. But it was fine. He did a fine job and civil war over. But it was always there. There had three major religions there who had to share power.”

    2017-09-03 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #262: The CIA, The Police, and Other Adventures from Stewart Copeland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  13. “Well, I was evacuated because after the Philby thing, it got hot. And so my father just suddenly had to get the family out of Dodge. Lebanon at that time was always, you know, 1958, there was a civil war there at that time while I was there. And it was bombs in the night. We had to fill the bathtub with water and stock up with food and so on. And there were sandbags in the streets. And actually in those days it was put out by the United States Sixth Fleet Shoe-Up, which is another reason I was real proud to be American. They showed up in 1958. I think Eisenhower was president. And that was it. Civil war over. Just for show, they landed a whole platoon or whatever on the beach with the tanks and everything and did a display of these enormous tents.”

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  14. “The Americans built hospitals and universities, and American money was going into the Middle East from Christian organizations, missionaries. And so Americans were known for no strings attached good stuff, you know, because it was the French and the British and the old imperial powers that had the bad rap. We soon earned a bad rap. But in those days, Americans were much loved”

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  15. “I left the Middle East in the mid 60s. I would have been 14 or 15, something like that. And I was already playing in my high school band in Beirut by that time. And I got to boarding school in England. And a couple things. Nobody had ever heard of where I come from. Where do you come from? Well, Lebanon. Well, where's that? The other thing was that I didn't realize it, but a lot of my vocabulary wasn't English. They speak in Beirut, they speak Arabifranges. Which is Arabic, but the sophisticated Beirutis speak French, but English American was invading. The university was American, the hospital built by American missionaries. The Americans in the Middle East, by the way, during my time were mostly, apart from my father.”

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  16. “I can't remember any time before I wasn't a musician. And I don't remember, you know, I was seven or something like that. I just never, ever when I was actually in college, I thought, I don't actually want to play music. I want to organize it. I studied journalism and other aspects of the entertainment industry, but the drums just...”

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  17. “No, no, no. He was years after maybe a decade By the way I went back to Beirut years later. And it's all Arabic now. And they're all there. The Lebanese, the most of the richest countries and most developed countries in the Middle East. And they rule in the Arab world. Anybody who's running any of these probably Lebanese. And they have no resources. They have huge civil strife, a huge ethnic tension, but they've been through their civil war and they've got it resolved. And just the Lebanese, they are all about education. So the American community school educating these kids to go and conquer America, which they do. You know, there's a Lebanese ghetto here in Los Angeles. It's called Beverly Hills.”

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  18. “Well, there were other Americans too, mostly oil families, all the kids at the American Community School of Beirut, rumored to, the American Community Schools, all the Aramco kids, all the families in Saudi Arabia, the American families around. They sent their kids to this school in Beirut. In my generation was the first generation where the Saudi Arabians and the Gulf Arabs with their new wealth began to send their kids for a Western education. And so I and my age group started to see Saudi princes in my class and got to know them. One such was Osama bin Laden. Not in my class. He would have been quite a school, in that school, quite a few. If I had known him, I would have kicked his ass. Yeah.”

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  19. “Well, she's British. Her job was analyzing French and European train schedules. And so she was a spy, but it was in an office. It was a bureaucratic version of analyzing for sorting out bombing runs, getting supplies. And it was called SOE. And the ladies of the SOE. It was almost all women, by the way, unsung heroes. And people are now writing. That's my parents. When we went to Lebanon, she was an archaeologist, and she wrote books, in fact my mother, very bookish, and her books are the kind of books that you don't read in a bookstore, the kind of books that the people who write books that you read use as research. The first word in her book, you know, one of our books is the. The second word is 14 syllables long.”

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