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Stuart Stevens

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  1. “Yes. I think on all sorts of levels. One, I think as a party, you have a moral obligation to represent the whole country and that forgetting any other electoral needs, you need to represent the whole country. We need to Forget the electoral element, just as the Democratic Party can't become a minority white party. It needs to do better. It needs to pass up. The Democratic Party can't become a party of the coast that only wins every four years, that doesn't have any governors in the middle of the country. That's bad for the political dialogue of the country.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Well, let's just sort of. At each of these real quick. Romney got more, a higher percentage of white votes than Ronald Reagan did in 1980. So to me, it's sort of like you've got a baseball team, you've got one guy who's hitting 450 and a bunch of 125 hitters. You want to raise the average. Because you get the 450 hitter to 600? Yeah, you could, in theory, but maybe it'd be better to get the 125 guys to hit their body weight. That would be more logical. I don't think you're going to have a candidate that is going to.”

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  3. “We can get to that theory and the validity of it. And the other is that the party needs to expand and that it needs to be”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Well, I think to me the two biggest splits are there's this I would call a Ted Cruise Donald Trump category that believes that the reason Mitt Romney lost is because he didn't get enough conservative white votes and that you can just drill down more in there and win. And then there's another”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “A runoff, and he did what people thought couldn't be done, which came back in a runoff, and more people voted in the runoff than in the previous, which we didn't think would ever happen.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “It was a brawl. It was a brawl. I mean, it was a flat out rumble. And it was ugly in a way that we hadn't had ugly in Mississippi in a long, long time. And I didn't think we would be. But the good guy won.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Has gotten in many ways bigger if you just look around the country, you know, what 31 governorships or something like that, you're going to have a lot of different visions of what that country ought to be, of what that governorships ought to be, there's a lot of arguing. I think that's good. You know, a lot of it I don't agree with. I mean, if you look at them again, you'll Cochrane, I mean, that was a flat out street fight. I mean, I went down there for three days to help out and I stayed for seven weeks. And, I mean, we fought it out in this, I mean, it was...”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “I think. I think they're all true. It's like, I think at any given moment it's all true. You know, I tend to think conflict is good. I'm drawing the conflict because I think when people are arguing that's a good thing, I think when people start to agree too much, it's a bad thing. Listen, I think the party.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “But just the way it's used now, but people get it, so I'll use it. There's sort of two narratives about the Republican Party. One is that it's all homogeneous, all sort of boring white men and everybody thinks alike. The other is that the party's so It's a civil war, and no one could get along.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “It was very complicated. You know, I went, I worked for Thad, and it was one of those things because I had worked in Thads earlier races. I went down.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Probably to a fault, which gets to why I'm in this fight with Donald Trump. I think there's plenty of fault to go around It would be Mississippi is an example of a place of great imperfections that having at one time not too long ago it had more African American elected officials than any other state, not per capita. And it's obviously changed a lot. But, you know, there's still a dark side there. And we saw some of it in this Stad Cochrane.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Megharb's brother. And so that's how I was formed. You know, I think once you sort of start that path, It's where you end up I'm very Critical of both parties.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “We're all sort of formed by that early experience. And so it was guys like Thad Cochrane who came along to beat the Eastland machine, which they thought never could be done. And Charles Evers endorsed Steg Cochrane.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “No, you know, when I came up, the Democrats were the segregationists, the East Lin and Stennis. And I was really formed by that. And to be a Democrat was sort of. To join that machine. Unless you wanted to be like a county clerk in Idawamba County, there was no joy in being for the home team.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “More than that, based on the publicity God, he ran for Lieutenant Governor. And his slogan was I kid you not, I still have one of his posters, a straight shooter. And this is not that long ago. The DA who tried to who did prosecute him really did try to convict him. And he lived down the street from us. His son was my age. He's now Chief Justice of Supreme Court in Mississippi was almost driven mad by his inability to get a conviction, and he later ran for governor himself and was elected governor, I think, in sort of a paroxym of guilt by Mississippians, Bill Waller. It's amazing to think how far Mississippi has come. One of the themes in my book is the role sports has played in helping Mississippi develop and forcing it. I think it's very much like rugby in South Africa. Not that we're home by any means, by any means.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “You have a sense of Yeah, and his wife was crying. And he insisted that he would do it. It was a very tough guy, William Winter, not a big guy, but he very tough guy. And finally, they realized they couldn't talk him out of it, and one of them went out to the car and came back with this kind of bulky, bulletproof vest. And he put it on under his jacket. They went out to the car and they came back with these long rifles, and they were putting them under their coats. And my father, who'd had a A long war two always hated guns and he got a gun and they walked out and it was powerful. And as it turns out, there were very specific threats against winter that night and probably having those guys there may have saved his life. So it was very dramatic times. That's when Byron Delabequet was tried three times for the assassination of Mayor Evers.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Philadelphia, Mississippi, you know, it appears that they were turned over to the Klan by sheriff. So, as always, who could you trust in law enforcement? And Winter had a group of law enforcement types and former law enforcement types. My father had been in the FBI who tried to help with security. And I can remember vividly being in this high school locker room down in South Mississippi on a Friday night for a football game, and there have been this very specific threat that he would be shot if he came out and spoke. And they were urging him not to go out. It was this foggy night, and he insisted on doing it.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “Segregation. And he didn't have any security in those days. And it was always difficult then to know. Who was on the right side and who was on the wrong side? And if you go back to the killing of Schwarner Cheney and Goodman, the three civil rights”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Yeah. And I can remember vividly another scene in my book when William Winner was running for governor in 1967. And this is in that documentary, there were many death threats against him.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “Is the Omus Kentucky game in nineteen sixty two, which was a Saturday night before the Sunday riots at the University of Mississippi where crazy Governor Ross Barnett came out at halftime and gave this speech, which basically called for insurrection against the federal government before the integration of OMIS with Ross Barnett. I mean, with James Manners.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “Tell us about your family and the values that you know, I grew up in. Lawyers and judges and ministers. And those Presbyterian ministers and Methodist ministers were all very much involved in the civil rights side from that perspective. My grandmother on my father's side was one of the co-founders of it's just unbelievable to think that such an organization needed to exist but was the woman's anti-lynching society. And my uncle Francis, who died a couple of years ago, became a full-time civil rights lawyer. And you know, in Jackson, it's Know, I can remember vividly the night that Mega Evers was shot. Sheila Evers was one of my close friends in high school. His niece. And, you know, it Everything Jackson was a very small town. And of course the old Miss Riots in' sixty two were vivid. The first scene in my book was”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “It means that he wasn't a He wasn't a segregationist, and even more than that, it meant that he Was willing to lose without going to the dark side And there's a wonderful film that has just been made in the last year about William Winter that focuses on his Time as governor. It was only four years because then governors couldn't run for re-election in Mississippi. It focuses on him getting education bills passed to Mississippi. But it really is a story of Wehrminers called The Hardest Job.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “Well, then everything was about race. And the phrase that people would use was he was good on race. And if you still talk to people, that's what they'll say. You know, William was good on race.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “My family was close to a guy named William Winter. Was a Democrat. They're really only Democrats then. And he kept running for office and losing. And I would work in all his races as a kid, you know, walking precincts and everything. Finally, I quit working.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “Jackson, Mississippi. You know, I really grew up. I came of age really at the Mississippi Burning years. And a lot of this book I just wrote the last season was about growing up in Mississippi. And it's really, I think, what drew me to politics because politics then was so dramatic.”

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  26. “We are where we are today. I said, look, you could win, you could come in last. So I don't think you can make a political decision. I think you have to make a personal decision. And, you know, the truth is what it always is in politics, as you know. Most people lose when they run for president. It's like the Super Bowl. It's really hard to get there. Some reason to believe that 50% of the teams to get there lose. I think it just didn't in the end of the day didn't feel right to he and Anne.”

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  27. “Not if it didn't feel right. I think that my advice such as it was at the time was it's impossible in January of 2015 to calculate the politics for the primary or the general.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “I was just a personal decision. Know, I was talking to him a lot in January. You know, usually with Mitt Romney, his own the record and off the record are the same. There's usually not a hidden agenda. I always get asked, you know, what's really saying? Usually it's pretty close to what he's saying publicly. I just don't think it felt right to him”

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  29. “I'm sorry we lost. But I'm not sorry I'm not involved in this race. I wish McRomney was running again. I think he'd be winning.”

    2016-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 23 - Stuart Stevens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source