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  1. More so the former. There was a fantastic film made by David and Liz Perakook some years ago, gosh, about 20, 25 years ago called Wolves of the Sea. And they are just that wolves of the sea that coordinated hunting in a pack and the different types of killer whales, residents that hang around in one place they tend to eat fish. There's transients that hang more offshore and they tend to eat marine mammals. And then there's an offshore type that's a bit of a mix of the two. But yeah, I really enjoyed working with them. My one regret is I haven't got in the water with them yet. But one of these days.

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  2. So there was definitely an element of teaching, and I've seen that with Orka and other places up in Alaska, for example. They were hunting Maganzas. So these sea ducks would be swimming around on a surface. And then the whales would swim underneath them, get hold of their feet and just pull them under just pulling them under for a few seconds and letting them go. So these birds were flustered and flapping around and then they'd come up and do it again just like playing and then of course eventually they drown these poor ducks but they are the smart animals they're smart animals

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  3. Was definitely an element of teaching hunting, and we were able to show that with the footage we got because there was a particular matriarch that had a very noticeable little notch in her fin. So you could see that she was leading the attacks, if you like. But then she would hang back and you could see her and the other adult females hanging back and letting the calves go in and kind of have a go if you like.

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  4. A bit of both. And Nancy had this theory. What they were doing was eating the tongue and leaving the rest of it and we were able to film that and show that was the case. So what happens they've got this thick layer of blubber but the killer whales were going in sort of through under the jaw, under the soft palate and they drowned the calf by jumping repeatedly on top of it and holding it under and ramming into the side of it and then they were actually eating the tongue and once they'd done it

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  5. For example, in the straits of Gibraltar between the southern tip of Spain and Morocco, they were hunting bluefin tuna. So bluefin tuna will go into the Mediterranean to spawn. And then about August time, they're coming back out of the Mediterranean. At that point, the fishermen alonglining for them, they are so smart, they had learnt that they'd been milling around and you'd see them just swimming around just keeping an eye on things. And then the minute a fishing boat hooked one, they had clued in to the sound of the winch. They're winching, and as soon as they meet a beeline for a boat, you knew that that boat had hooked a tuna and they would just be diving on this line. And then the fishermen would haul it up and it'd be big killer whale size bites out of it. And yeah, I mean, they're very impressive animals.

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  6. Other members of your pod can see you because if you didn't have... Just hazarding a guess there because there are interesting societies, it's a matriarchal society and when the male calves grow up eventually they'll be They'll leave the part, and yeah, and you've got basically a group of females and calves. I mean, they're extraordinary animals, and I've seen them do some. Really neat behaviours after Blue Planet. I went on to produce a film about Killer Whales. We got to film some really, really cool behaviours. Like what?

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  7. the water. Why is that? I do not know the answer to that. Why is it so big? I guess it's helping, maybe it's acting a bit like a rudder or something. And certainly, I guess if you're traveling in rough seas.

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  8. And that's the big male or because they can have a dorsal fin that's about six feet high, but the females would be smaller.

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  9. I think a big male orca would be about 30 feet, 10 meters. I need to check that, but I think that's what it would be, as I recall. I guess the calf would have been about five meters, 15 feet, something like that.

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  10. But then, and as a filmmaker, wow, this is exciting no one's fullness before, you know, how incredible is that very, very high octane stuff. But then as a human being, it was pretty grueling to sit and watch this poor little calf get drowned and then eventually eaten. But hey, whales have to eat. Exactly.

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  11. We were sitting, and when we found this event where the killer whales were surrounding this mum and calf and we quickly clambered into the zodiac, I remember my mum saying when she saw a photo of this, you haven't got your life jacket on because we got in so quickly I'd forgotten to do that. And at one point the Grey Whale mother was trying to shelter under our boat. So it was, you know, as a biologist, it was incredible to see this behavior, you know, absolutely amazing behavior. And literally the killer whales were the orca were close enough that if I'd wanted to, I could have touched them because they were coming right around the boat.

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  12. It's something that's not been filmed before, you're just trying to have to piece together the bits of the jigsaw. So I say this woman, Nancy Black, the biologist, she knew roughly where it was happening, roughly when, and then you had to think about, well, if you're not there, you're not going to get it. So let's go and give it our best shot. Work with her because she seemed to be the person and she was indeed the person who knew most about it. get a good boat have a zodiac that we could get into to go and film from and all you can do is try

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  13. Capture the In terms of them not getting the footage, I think they were unlucky because they had a fantastic cameraman, Mike degree, who was a brilliant cameraman and a wonderful person who's sadly no longer with us. But he and another fantastic cameraman, you know, they were really good guys and they didn't manage to get it. But then I thought if they're sending them to do it, they obviously think it's worth a try, so let's give it a go. But then in terms of trying to decide, my whole life as a wildlife film maker is trying to make sure that the camera team was in the right place at the right time. And I love logistics. I love the research. And some of these behaviors, you know, if you're going to film something where an animal is well known what it does, you know, maybe it's a lion going to hunt in parlor in Zambia or something like that. And people are seeing that regularly.

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  14. California, she had never seen an attack from start to finish in the whole time she'd been watching this. So she said, this is my hunch. I know roughly when it happens because, you know, the Blue Planet team had gone off to this marine mammal conference and had said, if anyone's got any stories that they think would be interesting for us, let us know. So this really interesting situation. And day three, we saw these killer whales hunting grey whales.

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  15. You've got mothers with their calves. So the calves are born in San Ignacio Lagoon in Baja, California, and they're going to migrate up the west coast of the States to the summer feeding grounds in Alaska. Nancy Black, who was the biologist we worked with, she had this theory that it was the immature mothers that were taking a shortcut across Monterey Bay Canyon, this very deep water. And we knew that National Geographic had tried to film this and not been successful. And then my boss, Alistair, who I mentioned before, he gave me the task of deciding, should we go and film this. So that was obviously quite onerous deciding, you know, shall we spend this money to go and give it a go. And we were extremely lucky that on day three someone reported this behaviour. And Nancy, who runs a whale watch business and she's a biologist in

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  16. So being marine mammals, belugas have to come to the surface to breathe. And it's thought that what had happened, they'd been feeding at the ice edge, waiting for the ice to break up before they could move into the summer feeding grounds. And there'd been a bit of a cold snap and in still conditions the ice can freeze very suddenly overnight, the sea ice. And so that ice had encroached on them and trapped them in this hole. But we were camping on the sea ice when we were filming this, a bit like camping on the sea ice here. But with the difference that you don't hear it kind of groaning under your tent in such a sort of large area as we're in here.

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  17. Killer whales or orca hunting grey whales as they migrated up the west coast of the states towards the summer feeding grounds in Alaska. Then a couple of months later Doug and I went up to Lancaster Sound, Jones Sound, beg your pardon in the Canadian High Arctic, where there was a super rare event of polar bears hunting beluga whales that were caught in something called the Sarsart, which is a hole in the ice being kept open by the movement of animals.

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  18. Some of the firsts that you've captured. Yeah, I've been so lucky to photograph some very cool things. So the first shoot I went on for Blue Planet with Cameron Doug Allen and Tom Fitz, we went to Monterey Bay in California and that was to film

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  19. Yeah, it's not incredible. So they cannot eat for about four months from the time they're arriving back at the edge of the ice. They're finding their partner mating, taking care of the eggs, sitting on the egg for two, two, two and a half months. So that can be about four month period that they're not eating. And then when the chick hatches The first meal they get is from the father, and he produces this kind of mix of protein and fat that he feeds to the chick from this special gland and his esophagus. So just an amazing life cycle that they can breed over the Antarctic winter like that. Incredibly harsh.

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  20. They have a thing called a brood pouch, which is a bare bit of skin at the bottom of their belly, and they'll tuck the egg in there. So the female, of course, lays the egg. She will pass it over to the male and she'll then be zipping off to sea and leaving him to do all the work of looking after this egg during the winter. But it's a really precarious thing to pass this egg in super cold temperatures over to the male. And then this big sort of flap of insulating skin goes over the top of the egg and he's able to maintain that egg at about 34, 35 degrees, even though the outside temperature can be minus 50 centigrade.

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  21. They do glide, but they use their feet. They've got really strong feet that have special lipids to help stop them freezing because of course they're standing around in the middle of winter, maybe minus 50 or so with wind chill and the males will be incubating the egg so they'll be using those stronger feet to propel themselves long and then using their flippers to push in the snow. So you get this very cool track of where their belly's rubbing through the snow and then these little sharp lines either side of that but yeah you can never get bored of emperor penguins and you know a big one they're as I say the biggest of the of the penguins but the at all one a big one would be about 1.25 meters tall which is you know pretty big yeah

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  22. Well, they can walk, you know, maybe even 100 kilometers from the edge of the ice where they've been feeding back to the colony to feed their chicks. And of course, toddling along on their little legs takes them a long time, but they'll flop onto their bellies and then propel themselves along using their flippers and their very strong feet. That's exactly what they're doing now. So we're just sitting here watching this trail of the most beautiful bird in the world toboggoning along on their bellies, going off to feed their chicks. It's very cool.

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  23. It's a book called Emperor The Perfect Penguin, and I've been lucky to spend a lot of time with Emperor Penguins, which, as you know now, Tim, are the biggest of all the 18 penguin species. They're the, you know, the happy feet penguin, if you like, and they are so spectacularly beautiful. And I'd done a book, mainly photo-led book, about emperors and why to me they were the perfect penguin and been photographing them over about 14 years cracky that's a long time. And so that was a book came out a couple of years ago.

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  24. One of my top few experiences in my life a couple of years ago I'd done this book and one of the paragraphs in the acknowledgements was thanking David for all he'd done to inspire me as a kid and I'd gone to this book launch for a friend's book Michael Palin and he had written this book called Erebus and I had a copy of my book in my bag and David was there. So the three of us had a drink together and I said David please forgive me for doing this but I'm never going to be able to do it again and I basically took my book out and held on to his arm and read out this paragraph in the acknowledgements about what he meant to me and how it inspired me. And then I got to the end of this paragraph and slightly teary-eyed and then he gave me this big hug and yeah it was great.

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  25. He's brilliant. He's so outstanding. He's absolutely brilliant. He is so unbelievably kind and nice. And there's this great story where, because his number used to be in the phone book, and I always remember him saying how this little boy had phoned him up because his pet rabbit was ill. Here he is phoning up.

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  26. And he just to go into a recording studio and he's there reading the script you've hopefully written for him and he's always going to come up with some improvements. But yeah, it's really so much more because he's out in the field and he's just, as I say, got this incredible enthusiasm for the subject matter and an incredible knowledge. And it is absolutely infectious. Anybody in the BBC natural history unit would have been inspired by him as a kid and he can do no wrong

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  27. So not like that. I mean, he had many of the ideas for series, so he would come up with the idea and he would be writing the scripts. And the thing with David is he makes his job look like falling off a log, but it really isn't. It's incredibly difficult to get.

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  28. Off doing things in his 20s that were really extraordinary going off exploring in places like New Guinea and remote parts of Indonesia and doing some very, very cool things that I recall seeing as a child.

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  29. Oh, well, he has a longevity in terms of wildlife presenters. But I mean, he's so much more than that. He's now 95. He has inspired millions and millions and millions of people around the world. He's just recently spoken at COP. And as a child, you know, he was presenting these amazing documentaries, as he still does. But he's just an incredible communicator and just has this constant fascination for everything and he's not just an expert biologist, he's an expert on all sorts of things, paleontology, a type of China, amber, oh, all sorts of things. And he is a fascinating. As I say, he's inspired millions of people. He also used to head up BBC Two, but he was going...

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  30. Get me for something like that. But he said, Well, you're a dive instructor. I was a dive instructor by now. I'd worked for a smaller TV company on a series about the oceans as well. So I knew my way around. Yeah, so I applied. And then my boss Alistair, Father Gill, Alistair was the head of the Natural History Unit. Yeah, very English. And Alistair said, you've got the job. I recall exactly what I said. I said, that's better than winning the lottery. And it was. It was better than winning the lottery. Even now, if you could turn back the clock and I had the choice between winning the lottery and working on Blue Planet. Would choose working on Blue Planet.

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  31. What was that like? That's a great question, Tim, because I remember phoning him up and I imagined that there was going to be some secretary answer the phone and you hear his voice because hello. I said, oh, David, hello, it's Sue Flood. I'm surprised her you answered the phone. He said, well, yes, I do live here. And so, you know, I had a producer as my boss and so on. And I was the researcher, but occasionally I'd have to speak to him and that's still exciting because he's such a wonderful guy. But yeah, that was my first break was working on wildlife on one. And then there was a series that was coming up with the provisional name Oceans and this was going to be a series, an eight-part series that was going to be a big budget series on the natural history of the oceans. And this is the series that became the blue planet. And one of the cameramen had told me about this and he said, you know, you should try and get a job on that because it's going to be really, really good series. And I said, they won't.

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  32. Absolutely. No, exactly. So, and this was the BBC's longest running nature program at the time, so it's presented by David Attenborough. Wow, so I was getting to work with David at last.

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  33. Yeah, so I was given a three-day contract. And yeah, and then that got extended by another three days, then a few weeks. What was that?

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  34. Exactly. So I took a five hour coach ride to get there, and this producer Michael Bright, we had a coffee and he, what have you been up to? What have you been doing? And he said, I don't suppose you've got any free time, have you? Because there was this researcher meant to be starting today and she just didn't turn up. And he said, you know, have you got any free time? And I said, absolutely. And he said, when could you start? And I said today.

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  35. Yeah, it was very kind. He's a nice guy. And one of the people, it was a board of three people interview me. And one of them said, if you're ever in Bristol, just let us know, come for a coffee in the BBC canteen and come and tell us what you've been up to. So of course I pretended I was in Bristol. Happened to be during.

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  36. I would write pretty regularly, and there was a what happened, there was, you know, I'd get encouragement from people. Also, there were a couple of wildlife film festivals I would go to and I'd just go, hi, here I am and still here. I'd love to be a researcher. But, you know, not quite getting there. And then I got to the last two for a job and I didn't get it. And it was for this children's TV program called The Really Wild Show. But the producer guy called Paul Appleby, he was really kind and he said, look, you didn't quite get the job, but would you like to come and spend the day in the studio? And one of the people who had interviewed me for the job.

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  37. Well, it was quite an interesting trajectory. So by now I'd got some interesting things on my resume. You know, I'd got the experience of Bermuda. I'd got the experience in the Australian in Queensland with the national parks. And so now I was writing to the BBC and saying, well, actually now I've done this. So instead of getting rejection letters if I applied for a job, now I was getting interviews. So, you know, first of all, it was getting through to the last couple of hundred for the job, then it's the last 50, then I'm down to the last 10. And I...

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  38. I did volunteer and Coin waits because I heard that they were coming out and I thought, wow, doesn't that sound amazing? And by now, when I was at university, I knew that there was a chance of getting onto this operation rally, albeit a very small chance, I thought. And also, so I learned to dive when I was at university in the hope that I got accepted and could go and do this dive project on a barrier reef. But, you know, geez, I never thought I'd get to do anything like that. It was amazing. And I never thought I'd get to Australia. It may as well have been on the moon as far as I was concerned because I had been to France and that was it. So I was 20 years old and I'd hardly traveled.

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  39. 1609 and we were finding all these really cool things like shoes, like these leather shoes that had been preserved from being buried in the cellar. And you volunteered to...

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  40. Yeah, and you know, I remember going to sleep in this tent at about 10 o'clock at night and then they wake you up at one in the morning and we got given a box with a dead rabbit and some potatoes and things to make your evening meal. And, you know, no one wanted to touch the rabbit. But, you know, I'd done zoology, so I was happy with that. And then the piesta resistance at the end of the weekend in a very cold November in Newcastle was to there was an outdoor swimming pool unheated where they told us to jump in and swim a couple of lengths. And at that point, my friend Alice, who'd encouraged us to apply, she'd also got through, she promptly burst out crying and she did not get on. I think I was made a sterner stuff. Maybe I'm just more used to the cold.

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  41. Reposh, I guess, thinking there's no way I'm going to get through this. But I did get through the interview. And then you got onto what was called a selection weekend where you went away for a whole weekend and they put you through your paces.

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  42. It was very, very popular. And it was, wow, this seems amazing. And she said, let's apply. And in the confident way I have, I said, you're never going to get onto that. She said, come on, come on, let's apply. And anyway, we applied. So you had to fill out this form, this very detailed form. If you got through that, you got interviewed. And I remember going into this dusty old room university being interviewed by some equally dusty old men and thinking, and they were all terribly...

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  43. So Operation Rally had been started up by Prince Charles and also a guy called John Blushford Snell. And the idea of it was to give young people a chance to do community work, conservation work, you know, character building stuff. And I come from this very tiny village in North Wales where not much happens. And a friend at university said, hey, look at this because it was all over the TV and the papers.

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  44. Yeah, I, well, and I have his reply somewhere at home. So it was along the lines of ever since I was a child I've watched David Attenborough's documentaries. He's inspired me to want to become a wildlife filmmaker. I'm going off to university to study zoology. I'd love to come and work for the BBC and can you give me any advice, that kind of thing? And this person Mike Salisbury, he was he's a really kind, generous guy and he It's typical of him to bother replying, and he was the producer on a lot of the big Attenborough series, so things like Life of Birds, Life in Cold Blood, all these, actually, and that was with my friend Miles, but he'd worked on all these big key series and some of the older ones like Living Planet and so on. That was the question to him.

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  45. And it was really great experience being out there because I was able to use that time. It was an unpaid position again. So I didn't have the money to do this, but I was racking up really useful experience. I got my food and my board and built up a credit card bill and I was assisting the marine biologist, as I say. And then there was this team who came out from the UK and they had been working excavating the Mary Rose and the Mary Rose was this Henry VIII's flagship so this incredible vessel that had been found and They had managed to excavate this ship, and they were now coming out, these specialists, to dive on a record, the sea venture, which had sunk in 1609. So I volunteered in the days of snail mill to could I possibly help them? And they took me on to go and help that team as well as working at the bio station.

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  46. Working for the Queensland National Parks and Wildlife Service for three months unpaid, diving on the barrier reef, doing these surveys for Crown of Thorn starfish, which were damaging the reef, whitewater rafting through the rainforest and bullying this path through the rainforest and caving in the outback in Chiligo. So this was all meaning. Caving, going into caves into this limestone cave system, that was a character building experience since I don't like the dark and I don't like enclosed spaces. So that was a great mix. And then I also, I'd heard about a place called Bermuda Biological Station, and they had this three-month work study program where you could volunteer and assist the marine biologists. So I managed to get onto that and the three months became eight months.

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  47. I had no idea how to go about it. I wrote to the BBC, to the natural history unit, as it's called, which is a special department in Bristol that makes all of the BBC's wildlife documentaries. And a very kindly producer there saw my letter and bothered to reply. And of course, they get thousands of letters from people wanting to make wildlife films with David Attenborough, of course. But I went and studied zoology at university, so I went to Durham University in the UK. And this producer had said, look, you need to put something on your resume that will make us take a second look because we get lots of people with their zoology degrees or their biology degrees or whatever. So I went, managed to get onto this really cool expedition to Australia and I had to raise money to go on that.

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  48. And headhunter swords from Borneo and all this incredibly cool stuff and it was inspirational as a child. But yeah, I never dreamt I'd actually get to do this dream job of being a wildlife filmmaker, but I did.

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  49. Never to take anything for granted is, you know, I feel like I've lived a super privileged life, not in any financial sense, but in a, my mum used to say, I've lived the life of five people and I have my absolute dream job. It's what I've wanted to do since I was a kid. And as a child, I would watch David Attenborough on all these wildlife documentaries. And there were two people who really, really inspired me. One was David Attenborough. I remember seeing him crawling around in the Rwandan jungle with mountain gorillas and thinking, wow, that's a cool job. And then also my dad, my dad used to be in the merchant navy, so he would have all these amazing stories from Japan and China and Burma as it was. And we had this big Campfood chest he'd brought back from being at sea with kimonos and hands.

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  50. Position? It's a little X shaped cross with hooks on the end of it and it would hook over my shoulders and then hook under my backside to sort of hold my legs in a certain position. And my mum used to tell me it was just awful because they'd put me into this thing and I would just cry and cry and cry. They were told that they had to do this to try and, you know, give me a chance to possibly walk. And yeah, unfortunately, my father passed away recently and we were clearing out the house and found this little thing and my brother was saying, oh, check that out. And I said, no, I'm going to keep it. And that's My office, just as a constant reminder that I've been very lucky.

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