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Suella Braverman

lines on the record: 50
first: 2023-03-10
most recent: 2023-03-10
sittings or episodes: 1
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“There are, there are. Well, I could try. Okay, well. It's a bit melancholy, but it is a beautiful poem by Paul Vell Esuletoi”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would never make those comparisons myself. And as I said, we saw it during Brexit. I was called an Arzi just for chairing the ERG or being a Brexit supporter. I think that it's an unhelpful way to frame the debate, which is actually focused on people's lives, compassion, control over our borders, and ultimately fairness and what the British people want.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it is from a personal point of view to hear that kind of characterization is offensive because, as you said, my husband is Jewish, my children are therefore directly descendant from people who were murdered in gas chambers during the Holocaust. And my husband's family is very feels very keenly the impact of the Holocaust actually. To kind of throw out those kind of flippant analogies diminishes the unspeakable tragedy that millions of people went through. And I don't think anything that is happening in the UK today can come close to what happened. The Holocaust, so I find it a lazy and unhelpful comparison to make.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Incredibly hard to deliver the program on illegal migration, but also on policing and security. And I've been nothing but impressed by. What I've seen”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, actually, I've been working with hundreds of civil servants recently at the Home Office, and I've been incredibly impressed by their dedication, their expertise, and their hard work. And I think we've got a very good cadre of civil servants at the home office. Do you want to apologize to them?”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, I actually, you know, you give me a good opportunity to put on record. No, that wasn't the question. Well, you invited me to comment.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I think, again, there are important questions to be asked about whether the balance has been properly struck. We've seen with the application of the convention by the court, and I would say it's a court which is politicised, it is interventionist, and it doesn't always follow a process that we would recognize as being due process, for example, the Rule 39 orders that were issued last summer. But in a whole range of policy areas, I think sometimes the jurisprudence from the Strasbourg Court is at odds with the will of Parliament or British values more generally.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, the prisoner voting saga lasted about 10 years. And it is also a Labour administration that was in a dispute with the Strasbourg court relating to the will of Parliament and the decision of a Strasbourg court. So, I mean, I think, as I said, we're not withdrawing from these measures are not taking us out of the European Convention. But you can learn from that.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I think is this is one of the benefits of Brexit you asked earlier. We actually have control over determining who comes into our country and how many people come into our country. And I think we have to balance the needs of our economy, the needs of industry with pressure on resources. And that is always going to be a difficult balance to make, but it's an important one for government to engage in.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, listen, we've got a manifesto commitment to lower overall numbers when it comes to lawful migration. We've seen, again, unprecedented numbers of people coming here through student and work visa routes. And again, I think there are legitimate questions to be asked about the pressure that that places on our fine out resources and whether we've got the right balance. But it is a manifesto. We've got to balance that with our economy and growing various sectors.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know if we fell out of immigration policy. I mean, that was overblown by the media. We didn't actually have any kind of falling out as far as I remember. I resigned over the issue to do with the email. But Liz gained the support of a majority of members over the summer. She became the leader and the prime minister in September. I think everyone accepts she made mistakes.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, the decision to be Home Secretary is not mine. That is a decision for the Prime Minister and I'm incredibly honoured that I was asked.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think what happened was that there was a An avalanche of resignations over a very short period of time, and it was clear that it was impossible to command confidence of the Conservative Party.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, listen, Boris Johnson was a remarkably successful politician and prime minister for us. I stood for the London Assembly with Boris in 2008.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's been problems relating to trade and the free flow of goods across the Irish Sea and there's been effectively a border which has been put up. Down our country. Rishi Sunak has worked very hard to rebuild relationships with the EU and strike a new framework, the Windsor Framework, which ameliorates a lot of those challenges. So I think that it is a good arrangement and I'm supportive of it.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll tell you, there are businesses in my constituency who are now exporting further afield thanks to greater trade opportunities.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very easy to try and poke holes with Brexit. Brexit is the undoing of 40 years of legal and economic union. It will take some time before we do see tangible benefits. And I believe we are already seeing...”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, I think there are definite benefits to breakfast. Can you name an industry? What I would just say is very human-see. Can you industry?”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whichever size of the argument is at the forefront of my mind in all of these moments of excruciating pressure. That's what guides me”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But what really reinforced my resolve was remembering the 17.4 million people who voted for Brexit. And the people in my constituency who really wanted us to get out of the European Union properly.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's also what eventually enabled Brexit to be delivered under Boris Johnson. That was a very difficult day and experience for me. And I think I speak for many of my colleagues in that scenario. We were made there was a huge amount of pressure on us inside Parliament to concede. We were portrayed as traitors, actually.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Me into others. It's definitely been challenging. I mean, I think the vote on the meaningful vote three, which is where the Spartans held out and 28 of us rebelled against the terms of the withdrawal agreement.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it was in part my legal. Newly elected. David Cameron promised fundamental change to fundamental reform to our settlement. And when he came back at the beginning of 2016 with something that fell far short of fundamental reform, it was an open and shut case for me that I had to vote to leave the European Union.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am, I've always been an avowed francophile. I love the French. I love France. I love French culture. I love their literature, as you say. And I loved my time living in France. And it comes from my mum again, sorry to bring my mum, but she is from Mauritius, so she's French-speaking. And she made it her mission to make me a French speaker as well as a young child. How's that?”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no. She's very supportive. And listen, I'm serving as Home Secretary. I wouldn't be able to do a lot of my work if it wasn't for my mum and dad and their support right now, actually.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's how it was written up, yeah. Is that not true? Well, I wasn't ever a contender against my mother. I wouldn't ever dare stand against my mum.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tory candidate. We didn't quite run against each other, but she did run for Parliament in the 2003 election. Yeah, but you have to be persuaded to...”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I do the Conservative Party did become a bit of an extension of our family. My father got involved to support my mother campaigning. I got involved. I was dragged along to deliver leaflets.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, is this what's very interesting? I think my kind of introduction to politics was kind of non-partisan. It was very community related. It was about local people. It was about grassroots and it was about helping directly local residents. That's what I saw. That was my first experience of politics. It was also about campaigning and the camaraderie of being part of a national party. Every few years our house would get transformed into a campaign headquarters with maps on the wall and rosettes and leaflets. It was only when I got to university and I got involved in student politics that I became more aware of the national and the philosophical foundations of the Conservative Party.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, well, actually, I think the other factor for my mother was in the 80s, there were a lot of strikes going on. And I was in a state primary school. And every Thursday, or pretty much often on a Thursday, it was strike day. And I, as a six-year-old child, would love strike day because it meant I could stay at home and I'd have the undivided attention of my mum. My parents thought otherwise and the militant unions and the industrial action became an unsustainable problem for my parents and they did actually take the very difficult decision to take me out of a local state school and fund an education in the local independence.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was about getting involved in the community. My mum was a very community minded person, and that's what I really learned from her work as a counsellor. Politics was not about grey men in suits on the television saying things. It was about helping a homeless person find her house. It was about stopping the local playing fields being built over. It was about getting better education for a local resident. That's what brought politics to life for me, actually.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She never explained any difficulty to me. She was, again, she wanted to get involved in her community. She wanted to be part of the Conservative Party. She had a friend who was a member of the local Conservatives in Brent North where we lived. And she joined and she was welcomed and supported.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was there a picture that well, there was definitely a lot of admiration for Margaret Thatcher. I think there was heroes of the audience.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I do. I do feel very sad when people want to cancel our history and deny the good that Britain did, you know, where we are seeing in universities or in literature or statues, they want to erase what happened in the past. And I find that very sad. I think the good and the bad needs to be presented for future generations to learn from.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know about that. I mean, I just think my overall experience has been one where I've received a great education. I've been supported through a legal career of which I'm very proud and gave me so many professional opportunities. I've been, and now I'm serving in Parliament. I can't say that I have experienced discrimination because of my race or gender.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I wouldn't say I have Listen, I've heard the word has been used in the street now and again, but I turn the other cheek and I carry on. People will say all kinds of cruel things. I get a lot of cruel things. I get a lot of cruel things said to me today. Sure.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Did you celebrate the big royal days? Definitely. And then I think about my parents' experience coming here. I mean, I think that's fundamental. It was Britain that gave them security and opportunity and welcomed them with open arms. On the whole, my parents were integrated and welcomed so warmly and have really played a large part and a meaningful part and felt a meaningful part of British society. And then I think about my experience growing up, I've been blessed with a great education. I've never experienced racism. I feel very proud to be serving in the British Parliament.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, because I admire. I deeply and profoundly admire what Britain has done for the world over centuries. And I go back to my parents, their experience of growing up under the empire, loving Britain from afar as children. My auntie and uncle fought with the British Army in Egypt during World War II. Britain brought a lot to Mauritius and Kenya.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do think that language matters, but I also think we've got to be open and frank about the impacts of illegal migration, unprecedented numbers coming here, and talking about the pressures that that's placing on school places, on GP wait lists is not bigoted and that shouldn't be silenced.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think I've said anything, which is untrue. It's not racist to say high levels or unprecedented levels of people coming into the country places pressure on housing supply. It's not racist to say it's unsustainable to allow the breaching of our laws every day to the level that we've seen on the channel. It's not racist to say. I don't want to get you.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, I would disagree. I think what happens, and what I'm seeing is that we're seeing a rerun of Brexit. Brexit supporters were typecast as being racist and bigoted and extremist because of wanting to control migration. Gordon Brown in the 2010 general election in an unguarded moment described voters as bigoted because they had concerns about migration. And that's what I want us to move away from. I think when you polarize the debate that way, you actually, it's a losing technique. It's not worked.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I've been thinking about this week, actually, in light of the debate that we're in. And what it reminds me of is the Brexit debate. And what I see is the left, and it's generally the left. They resort to framing the position that we're taking on migration, which I describe as firm but compassionate, as being far right, as being extremist, as being racist. And they do that in quite a lazy way. I don't think there's any comparison to our measures to what happened. But the debate isn't about measures.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he's been on the receiving end of verbal abuse. And I think about my experience growing up in London in the 1980s and onwards and not coming across anything near as aggressive and intimidating and harassing. And so I really feel a sense of pride about race relations in the United Kingdom and where we are as a nation and how we're comfortable”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He has spoken to me about his experiences in 1960s, early 70s, London. And it's fair to say our country's made huge progress. He's told me about a story when he was in the pub with his friends as a young man upon his arrival and being chased down the road by skinheads.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm welling up just hearing you say it, read it back to me actually. I think about the The vulnerability of that young man, my dad, and I think about the disturbance that his whole family and the turbulence that he went through being Evicted from his country effectively. He didn't actually want to come to the United Kingdom. He loves Kenya. He loves Africa if you talk to him. He came here reluctantly, but he didn't have a choice.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's really not the way that I frame the debate. I frame the debate through fairness. Fairness and equity and compassion. And I take a firm line on migration because I see the abuse of our rules. I see people jumping the queue. I see criminality. And I just feel for the many people I speak to in my constituency around the country who feel desperately frustrated and taken for a ride. And that's what makes me very impatient to make progress.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there is an element of that. I think the way I've seen it is people are going to get upset. People are going to react sometimes in a very kind of pronounced way. That's not a reason to shy away from saying things or doing what's necessary. And the brick bats and the personal abuse and the backlash, you know, I'm pretty steely. I'm pretty determined. I've been, you know, my work as a barrister put me and threw me into confrontation on a daily basis. I think I've kind of got the metal to withstand it.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you were to ask my family and friends, they'd probably say What would they say? I don't think Cruella would be the term that they all use. I'm a bit of a sofie when it comes to my children and with my family and friends. They can get away with quite a lot with me at home. So no, it doesn't feel reflective of the reality. But I'm also not in this job necessarily to be liked, making difficult decisions is not going to please everybody all of the time. doing the right thing is sometimes really difficult, but it doesn't mean you mustn't do the right thing.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't control how critics might respond to me, actually. Ever since I've started my political career, I've aimed to work collaboratively with people, work constructively, stand up for the British people. I see my role as being honest, telling the truth to the British people for the British people. And I appreciate the honesty sometimes makes others feel uncomfortable, but I'm not going to shy away from telling the truth.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, listen, I think it comes with the territory of being Home Secretary, of fronting up policy relating to migration, issues at the Home Office are very emotive. They relate to security and safety, people's well-being, particularly migration. It provokes very strong views.”
2023-03-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Suella Braverman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source