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Susan Glasser
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“Does the kind of investigative reporting, you know, the sort of accountability matter, the investigations that are spiraling around Donald Trump, how much do they matter? I would say they are enormously consequential and not overstated in any way in that look at. Presidency of Barack Obama. We didn't have endless corruption investigations almost from within months of the presidency in the case of Trump. And I think, again, it's hard because we live in such a partisan atmosphere. I think it's very hard for people like me who come up really in the independent press who have seen politicians in both parties in an unvarnished and probably Non ideological way, right? You know, you spend a little time in Washington, it's hard to put anyone up on a pedestal. And yet, to me, that is part of what”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there's a lot to unpack there. Anybody living in this new cycle can certainly agree with you that it's too much on some level and also that Donald Trump arguably his true genius is in figuring that out exactly and in understanding how both to manipulate and dominate that news cycle. But put that aside for a second because I think underpinning it there is an important question about journalism that is often raised and is very hard to answer. Everybody has their own answer for it how much”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“White water. White water, yes. Well, no, listen, Bill Clinton has always provided, let's say, plenty of fodder for journalists. And I think your point is well taken that this level of scrutiny or even arguably this kind of Washington Circus that has surrounded Trump from the beginning of his presidential candidacy and now his presidency elements of it are not unique, even though I would argue that taken together what we're seeing with the presidency is largely unprecedented. Yeah, but that's a function of”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I think you're exactly right about that. I think you've probably seen many politicians make the mistake of conflating a temporary convergence between the reporting agenda of independent reporters and their political needs and then being stunned, surprised, and furious when they had a different perspective and the reporters didn't follow along after them. I think many politicians at their peril think that the media is on their team or not on their team. And, you know, it's not our job to do that. Bill Clinton is a very interesting case, right? Because, of course, when he was first elected in 1992, he was young. He was the first Democrat to come into office. There's a sense that journalists were naturally cheering for.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. Yeah, I went to work there and I thought I would be sort of supervising stories about the Clinton fundraising scandals and Al Gore and no controlling legal authority. But it was actually one week later. I started there in January of 1998. And of course, it was January 20th, 21st that weekend that the Monica story broke first on the Drudge Report and then actually it was three reporters at the Washington Post, including my future husband, Peter Baker, who I had not even met who wrote the first story confirming the star investigation. So Peter and I do like to say that we're the only good thing to have come out of the Monica Lewinsky affair.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The politics of Capitol Hill. They understood here's this leadership staffer, and here's how the speaker's office works. And, you know, that was really the kind of reporting that they were great at. I found that I was much more interested in kind of the electoral map and the campaigns and the building blocks of American politics. I was really lucky that I got to cover the super wonky subject of redistricting and reapportionment, which turns out.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, they were expanding as I was there. I was editor, the managing editor of the college newspaper, and I loved both being reporter and being an editor in college. And I think I've been lucky to carry that through with me. So I started both doing editing as well as reporting at roll call. I did like politics more. I was more of a campaign person. I gravitated more towards the kind of stuff you were doing then and in fact was lucky enough to land Illinois as one of my states that I covered for roll call as opposed to the kind of inside Capitol Hill, inside the leadership type reporting that some of my colleagues who I hired there and who went on to great things like Jim Fande and others, they were great Juliet Alpren, both of those people are people I hired when I was at roll call, they were great at”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I think I was lucky. I could have been happy doing any number of things. And, you know, I was sort of hooked on it as soon as I worked there. I loved the project of really. Breaking original news and the whole way in which Jim Glassman, who was the editor as well as the publisher, I think he taught me so much about being an editor as well as being”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I worked there summer after my freshman year, summer after my junior year, and they asked me to come back to work there full-time after I graduated. And I said yes.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My grandparents always told me the story of actually getting to meet Mrs. Roosevelt at the airport and take her around. And so that did make a big impression on me. But I saw it as a lens through which to view American history. That's something that I was super interested in in college and for many years thereafter. I was lucky to work at Roll Call.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yet my father and my grandfather love politics. They had different visions of politics. My dad was not an unreconstructed New Dealer. And as I recall, had plenty of disagreements with my grandfather. I do remember that my grandparents got to meet Eleanor Roosevelt as part of my grandfather's work with what became the March of Dimes Hunters. When they found the cure for polio, of course that was a cause near and dear to the Roosevelts and Eleanor Roosevelt and Basil O'Connor, who had been FDR's law partner were the ones who were kind of leading the March of Times at the time they found the vaccine, the cure for polio.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's correct. And of course, he loved politics, and so did I. And so I actually went to work there as an intern. Why did you love politics?”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Much worse than Valentine's Day. But at any rate, Arthur and Jim had this great idea to turn it into a real newspaper and understanding that it was a unique audience that they could successfully sell for advertising, undercut the Washington Post, but that to do so they need to make it a must read. They need to have greater attraction.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, so I was really lucky again, you know, I think it was my dad who, when I was a freshman in college, I was looking for a summer internship. And he subscribed to the Washington Post in print in those old days. They would send you, even if you lived out of town, you know, and he”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I did do that and I, you know, I was hooked on journalism. I did it all through four years of college and started working here in Washington at Roll Call newspaper a week after I graduated from college.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I don't know. I got it in my head. My parents were not super thrilled on the idea. I was the oldest of four children. I was ready to. Yeah, and it was academically, it's a fantastic school and an incredible education there. And I did have this famous English teacher at Andover, Mr. Lyons, who taught constitutional law and was the advisor to the school newspaper. The Philippian, George W. Bush, I believe, has said that he was his favorite teacher. He is, by the way, a lot older than me. I just want to be clear on that. Probably Mr. Lyon's higher. So he called Mr. Lyon.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. I went away to high school for the last two years only, which is an interesting and kind of challenging thing to do. Well, I did.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and by the way, they're still working. They're turning 75 years old this year. My mother, I just left her working away on conference calls. They don't publish a newspaper anymore, of course, but they're still put on legal seminars in the lake.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's right. So it was kind of like roll call, but for lawyers, you know, or like Politico in a way, in a pre-internet way, very entrepreneurial at a time when the Chicago Tribune that you came up through or the Washington Post, that general interest sort of Macy's approach to journalism was already beginning to fragment. There was a sense that people needed more specialized reporting and information around their professional field.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, actually, I learned a lot about publishing that's even applicable to this sort of internet era, I think, from my parents. The Legal Times was a trade publication, and it was devoted to kind of the internal mechanics of law and eventually lobbying in the nation's capital. This is a city of lawyers, after all, in Washington. They were never based here. They were based outside of New York, but they came here a lot when I was growing up. And, you know, it was kind of like roll call.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a good question. My dad wanted to be a reporter more than anything, but my grandfather, the one I just mentioned, insisted that he go to law school. And so he went to law school, and I think he practiced law for about six months at most right before I was born. And then my mother, meanwhile, was working for a business that did conferences and seminars and the like. My dad said he hated what he was doing. He went to work with her. They became publishers at a young age of the New York Law Journal and basically formed a whole career out of legal and business publishing without actually using that law degree that my grandfather forced on him.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. But journalism was something that I got a love of from my father, and my parents actually always worked together. They were the founders of the Legal Times newspaper here in Washington, and I've been lucky enough to be a journalist and to want to be a journalist. And led them.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Article on the internet. My grandfather really, of course, was a pre internet era guy in which he described driving around in this vehicle. He had guards assigned to him and he was going to places that had not seen a single outsider aside from the two occupying armies in a decade.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“About that, and then Exactly. And he and I happen to be on the phone in that crazy hour. Remember one of those like, you know, never-to-to-to-to-be-forgotten trump news cycles. So anyways, long-winded way of saying my grandfather, courtesy of that book of Norm Isenth, which is about sort of this incredible story of Prague in the 20th century, I never knew this, but my brother was recently Googling, and he found my grandfather died in 1995. He was the last of the New Deal Democrats. We used to say that it was the Republican takeover of Congress that killed him. But my grandfather during World War II was an official of the International Red Cross, and he devoted his career to public health, including after the war, he worked for the polio foundation, but he took this incredible journey around post-war Czechoslovakia immediately after the defeat of Nazi Germany. None of us knew anything about this, and my brother found this obscure.”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can see you've done really excellent research, actually. I was just thinking about my grandfather over this weekend, former colleague of yours from the Obama White House, Norm Eisen, has written a book about his time as the U.S. ambassador to Czechoslovakia under pressure. I read your cum, which was...”
2018-09-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 268 — Susan Glasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source