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  1. Protest. We have to galvanize and organize at the ballot box so then we can get leadership in office that will listen to us that is sympathetic to our plight and that we can help hold accountable. I promise you, Joe Biden is a leader you can hold accountable. But none of the change that we are talking about happens if Donald Trump gets another four years. I cannot take another four years of the last four to seven days and I refuse to do so, which is why I'm going to do the work and I encourage other people to do so as well.

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  2. That's my top. For these young people who are out in the streets, your voices are changing things. But make no mistake. Protest without action at the ballot box will not yield you lasting results. The protesters in Washington, D.C., where I live, they went to the White House. They marched, they rallied, they marched down 16th Street, what is now black, Black Lives Not a Plaza now, and they were rallying outside of the White House. They didn't go to the Wilson building. They didn't go to the Department of Justice. They went to the White House. Why? Because the White House is important, who the president is matters, who the president appoints matters, who our mayors and our governors are. They matter. And so your protests, you're raising your voices are absolutely changing things. I applaud people who have decided to, in some cases, put their bodies on the line and lift their voices for this moment. But the work does not stop at the

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  3. Much like Dr. King challenged the folks that helped with the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act turned around and told them that this war in Vietnam basically is not it. And he challenged them and he stood up and he fought for fair housing and he fought for eradication of the slums. And the same folks that just that helped pass the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act could not be bothered and would not be bothered with those conversations. Dr. King, there were allies of Dr. King that told him that, well, why don't you just wait patiently? Why don't you just, these are the same people that helped you? What do we say now? Why are we eating our own? We have to be willing to push against our allies or our accomplices in order to see things change in our communities and our classrooms and our boardrooms and wherever else. So those are a few tenets of radical revolutionaries that I would say that's about the book.

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  4. Look, I write about this in the book about being a radical revolutionary, and there are some traits of radical revolutionaries. And when I say radical revolutionary, it's not about like being an activist and taking your sign and going down to the die in, but it's how can you affect change in your everyday space and place? And so some traits of being a radical revolutionary in the spirit of folks like Fannie Lou Hamer, Reverend Dr. Michael King Jr., and you, Carol, you are a radical revolutionary. You are affecting change in your everyday space and place. Radical revolutionaries have to be willing to take risks. Nothing changes without being willing to take a risk. They also have to be willing to stand in the gap for someone else. That means sometimes physically, but oftentimes proverbially in the boardroom, in the classroom, in the office. Are you letting that crew?

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  5. era we're in right now is so not conversational tell me what you think is really important when you do speak truth of power i'm gonna i'm gonna let go of the shut up part but although i like it quite a bit

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  6. Well, what I am worried about, I mean, look, Vice President Biden noted that yes, that's something he's worried about, something he's also spoken about that he's concerned about, is the rampant voter suppression efforts of not just the misinformation or disinformation that's out there from foreign actors, but our Republican friends who are currently being very vocal about their intention to trample on the right to vote of many folks across the country. And we have to be vigilant. I mean, I saw that Republicans were sending 50,000. They were enlisting 50,000 poll watchers, quote unquote. This feels like an intimidation tactic, right? You know, this closing down polling places. We have to make sure when we say free, fair elections, we're just not talking about for Democrats. We're talking about for everyone. And Donald Trump, I mean, Republicans are saying the choir part out loud. If voter turnout is up, they don't think they will do well. Donald Trump has repeatedly tweeted this. So we have to be vigilant.

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  7. Yeah, you know, I mean, Donald Trump is just not a good faith actor here, right? So we are going to do our part, you know, to make sure that we just beat him outright and hopefully, you know, we got a little, have a little hope, Kara. Hopefully Donald Trump will, you know, we plan to beat him. And when we beat him, we hope that he, you know, we continue the peaceful transition of power that we have enjoyed in the United States of America since the inception of our Democratic Republic.

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  8. Before November. And so we are working with our electron protection experts and folks across the country on the ground to make sure that the election is safe and that people can cast their ballots. And so we're doing that work on the state side. But Facebook also has a role to play here. And so we are asking them to do their part.

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  9. Well, look, I think what we would say, frankly, look, with less than 150 days ago till Election Day, I think it's 146 days, maybe 145, Facebook and other social media companies, but specifically Facebook right now, Facebook has to protect our democracy and ensure fair elections. So we are asking Facebook to fix itself to do just that. We can get into a conversation about what we will do as president about Facebook and other social media companies later, but right now our focus is ensuring free, fair, and open elections are the cornerstone of our democracy. What happened in Georgia this week was unacceptable with the long lines at the polls, the machines that weren't working in polling places across the state, the breakdown and delivery of folks who requested absentee ballots but never got them. It's unacceptable and it has to be fixed and remedied.

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  10. Facebook obviously sees its role differently in this environment. We are just asking and demanding that they keep the bar high and substantive, as I like to say. So yes, we have a petition out there. I encourage folks to search Joe Biden's Facebook petition. You will find it. And join us. Join us because it is high time that Facebook, I mean, just help. We're not asking Facebook to be a partisan player here. We're asking them though to crack down with some rules and policies on their platform and to be responsible. And we think their current posture is wildly irresponsible.

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  11. Well, I mean, we're not ignoring them, right? Like in March, frankly, we outspent the Trump campaign on social media, on across social media. We outspent them. So there's also this narrative that the Trump campaign has all this money and they're outspending Democrats up and down the ticket online. And, you know, we are on par with them, frankly. We don't have as much money as they do, but we got a lot of money and we're trying to use it effectively. But for Facebook specifically, look, we believe that they need to change its policies to crack down on misinformation and ads and ensure fair election. You know, I don't think I hope folks didn't forget, but maybe they did because the election cycle is so crazy about what, a week ago, it was when Twitter slapped a disclaimer on Donald Trump's tweet, Facebook's CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, came out and basically wagged the finger at Twitter. So, I mean,

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  12. Yeah, I think I read a couple stories that said we've gotten aggressive with Facebook, but the reality is that Facebook and these companies, they do have a responsibility here. And this is not just a random escalation. These are conversations and outreach that we have been doing for a while. We have spoken up about Facebook a number of times. We have a petition actually out right now urging Facebook to strengthen its misinformation rules. We know misinformation and disinformation are very real and they are, you know, the Russians are still out there attempting to meddle in our campaign, in our elections, the Chinese. There's true misinformation campaigns being run here. And we believe Facebook needs to change this misinformation rules. Like we are urging folks to step up their voices in this moment and join us because Facebook.

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  13. And yet he is very adept at using Facebook and Twitter. And Twitter is, I think, the loud version of it, but Facebook has been a strategy. And today there was a story about the Biden campaign focusing.

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  14. That this unrest that has gripped the country is not happening in a vacuum, and it is a complation of a number of different things that we have to address at this moment. We can't have Donald Trump's conversation.

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  15. And I think for folks who are looking to break through in that moment, whether you're, I mean, because there are other races in cycle, whether you're a Senate candidate or a house candidate or you are running for like dog catcher, it is important that you communicate your message and you run your race because Donald Trump, this is his, you know, again, his strategy as we've identified. He did this in 2018, you know, in the midterm elections. Everybody else wanted to talk about healthcare. And he was sending troops down to the border and he wanted to talk about caravans. But Democrats didn't take the bait in 2018. Their message locally and when they went out was about healthcare. Even though I sat on Cable News panels or my Republican friends on the panel said, oh, Democrats want to open the borders and they're running on open borders. And I'm like, nobody is even talking about the border. We're all talking about health care. So we need to continue to make sure we're talking about the economy. We are talking about still healthcare and that we are talking about

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  16. He knows it's like he knows that people are going to take the bait of his distraction no matter what it is. So some of this is an indictment on the press corps, on the political press corps of 2020. It is absolutely an indictment because every time Donald Trump says something, you cannot shift your coverage to cover the crazy thing he said. I watched way too many segments about the 75-year-old gentleman that was assaulted by the police officer about Antifa, okay? It wasn't even about the protests or why he was out there protesting. There were segments about Antifa and what the president said about Antifa. And it's just made up. And so part of the way I think from a campaign perspective that we can and have been breaking through is we have to run our race and not respond to the shiny objects. And there are lots of shiny objects to respond to, but we have to say laser focus on what our message is.

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  17. Well, look, I actually think, and if I could call it a strategy, but I guess on some level, it is a strategy, part of the president's strategy is to distract.

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  18. So it just connected with me. I mean, I went for a meeting that should have only been 30 minutes. I was there for two hours. It was like I had known Joe Biden for five years. And I respect him. I feel very blessed to work for him. But I also know he respects me. And he values my voice and that I could have not picked a better thing to do than work to get him elected. I really couldn't.

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  19. I absolutely believed in what he was saying. It struck me because at the time I was a commentator on CNN and I had decided one day after a segment that I didn't want to sit on the sidelines, if you will, during this campaign and pontificate about the work that other people were doing. And when I sat down with Vice President Biden, he said to me, he said, you know, I didn't want to go through this election cycle thinking, what would have happened if I would have ran for president? I didn't want to sit on the sidelines. And I'm like, me too. Me too. Okay, I'm with you here.

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  20. This is my career. And folks hear nothing else that I say, I think young people, women especially, young women of color, people of color, period, we need to be very intentional about what it is that we do, the jobs that we take, and the trajectory of our careers. Because I can't be really helpful working in the closet down the street that nobody knows about. I could be more helpful and more impactful doing what I'm doing right now.

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  21. We're senior advisors and campaign managers, deputy campaign managers, and not just a handful, people wouldn't have these questions. So it's still foreign to people for women of color to take the reins of their careers. Nobody is asking, I mean, I have a list of colleagues. I have yet to have a person ask why this white man over here decided to go do that. But everyone makes it seem as though it is taboo or very strange or untoward for me to go make a decision about my career because at the end of the day, politics is just not a game for me. This is what I believe in, but it's also how I pay my bills.

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  22. Well, you know, vanity fair, let's be clear. Vanity Fair put the title in. So, I mean, under eye on one level, I guess I could understand the intrigue, but on another level, folks asking me why I decided to go work for Joe Biden is exactly the issue and is exactly why we need more women of color standing up and doing what it is they would like to do because if there were more black women taking the reins of their, well, first of all, we have to make sure that the opportunity is there and available. And part of this is opportunity was there and available for me. But if there were more black women, more women of color

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  23. I just feel like look, I haven't worked for Senator Sanders since June of 2016. Since Senator Sanders, I went and I worked at the convention. I worked for Priorities USA. I helped restart Priorities USA with Guy Cecil and Brian Fallon, who is now a member, a staunch member of the Resistance, mind you. Brian Fallon is. I helped expand their voting rights work. The Pride of USA Foundation is now the largest funder of voting rights litigation in the country. That's work I helped do in terms of standing up a digital infrastructure for Democrats and doing all this very meticulous work. I helped do that work at Priorities USA. It's a super cat, by the way. So then all that time I was a CNN political commentator. I taught two classes, one at Harvard, one at USC. When I decided to go back on the campaign trail this time around, though, I wanted to go to a place where I had a respect.

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  24. This political apparatus and specifically the Democratic Party apparatus is we have to infiltrate the apparatus. That is how you gain power. The operations of politics, as we know it, they still flow through the Democratic and Republican Party. It has never, and if you don't believe me, Bernie Sanders ran for president on the Democratic ticket twice. He is an independent. Donald Trump has no real political ideology beside opening and ran for president on the Republican Party ticket because the power flows through these two apparatuses. And so the best way to expand the concept of we to gain power is to infiltrate the apparatus, whether that be by being elected official, by being a donor, by being an operative, it helps get these folks elected. Like there are various ways to infiltrate the apparatus. And I guess that's what I do every day. That's what I've been doing for years. I've just been working to infiltrate the apparatus.

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  25. Yeah, you know, look, I think, and I write about this in my book, I talk about, I tell the story about No, you showed up in the introduction, and then I talk about how now is the time none of us should shut up. But we have to talk about who are we talking about. We have to define who we is. And in the front part of the book, I talk about that in the preamble to the Constitution, we, the people, in order to form a more perfect union, it was a very, very narrow we. The we was rich white men. The we was not you or I, the we wasn't young people, you had to be rich and you had to be white, okay? You had to be a man. If you are a rich white woman, no, ma'am, it wasn't even your money. It was your husband's money. And so now we have expanded throughout history. We've expanded the concept of we, and we are at a moment where we probably need to go further, expanding who we is. And the way we expand the concept of we, the way we change the apparatus, as I call it.

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  26. And what did you, you know, that was quite a campaign. I mean, it was really, it really did tap into a lot of what's going on now, this idea of enough is enough. You know, this is a game system. We're not going to get out unless we take power.

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  27. Talk about race and the economy is intertwined issues that have to be addressed simultaneously. And he liked that. And that was a Thursday. By Tuesday, I had a job.

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  28. Now, I had a certain level of privilege. I worked, I was interning at the mayor's office at the time. I knew my city councilman. I was very involved in the community. So I basically told these officers to go take a, you know, go jump in the leg. This is not my marijuana. I'm not doing this. And also, I would like my phone call to call, you know, the mayor's office because y'all got me messed up. Well, as I explained to the senator at the end of this conversation, it was, you know, the difference between me and another young black woman is the level of privilege and position that I had to call someone, but everyone does not have that. And the officers didn't care where I worked, who I worked for, where I went to school. All they saw me as was a young black girl. So for some people, it doesn't matter if they built generational wealth. If you are black or brown in this country, you still have to address the systemic race issue. So we discussed it.

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  29. Shutting down One point, look, Brandy Sanders will let anybody know that they have a fundamental misunderstanding. He said it speaks on long enough. He will let you know you have a fundamental misunderstanding, Kara. And so Senator Sanders told me at the time that I had a fundamental misunderstanding of what he was saying as it relates to the economy and racial equity and whatnot. And I was just like, well, I disagree. And so we go into a back and forth. I end up telling him a story about how I was arrested in college. And when I had a bench warrant because I had unpaid parking tickets, didn't know I had a bench warrant. Officers pulled me over because I had a tail light out, run my license bench warrant that took me to jail. And when they take me out of the cruiser car into the precinct, they tell me that they found marijuana on the floor of the car that I was in. Okay, well, I didn't have any marijuana. It wasn't my marijuana. They pressured me to say yes that this was my marijuana. They tried to pin a marijuana and charge them.

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  30. But I ended up, you know, Jeff Weaver, I like to say he found me. He literally cold called me one day, and that was Senator Sanders' 2016 campaign manager. And I meet with Jeff. I end up meeting with the communications director a couple months later, or maybe a couple weeks later. And then I end up meeting with Senator Sanders. My meeting with Senator Sanders comes after his first run-in with Black Lives Matter activists at a conference called Network Nation. We sit down, we have a conversation, we start talking about the economy. And as I note in the book, Senator Sanders likes to, his favorite phrase is, you have a fundamental misunderstanding.

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  31. at the beginning of your time my first meeting with Senator Sanders I got an argument and I was like he is not gonna hire me we aren't gonna do this what was the argument about it was about the economy and criminal justice and racial justice issues we're having similar conversations now frankly in 2020 look I went to work for Senator Sanders and I joined his campaign in 2015 because I believed in what he was talking about you know the whole premise of his 2015 2016 campaign was we lived in a rigged economy kept in place by a system of corrupt campaign finance and so because we lived in a rigged economy we have to do this about climate change because of the rigged economy kept in place by a system of corrupt campaign finance we have to do this about education because of this so on down the line and you know the kind of the stuff that Bernie was talking about were frankly the kind of things that my friends and I were were talking about at the time so

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  32. Well, talk about those decisions. Talk about why you were attracted to Bernie Sanders and why, you know, you had a, you gave a story at a book party. I was at about an argument you got with him at the beginning of your time.

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  33. No, they would not want to say that to a white guy So infuriating. It's like, would you be so interested in my choice, in my career selections, if I was a 32-year-old white man? No, you're not. So the reason they care, Kara, the reason people are so intrigued is because they are not used to people that look like me making the decisions that I have made about my life.

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  34. The campaign trail. And so part of it is we have to build a pipeline. And I think how I view, I mean, obviously like I am here to get Joe Biden elected as a 46th president of the United States of America. That is my mission right now. But in everything I do, my own personal mission is to make sure I leave the door open so there are more young black women and women of color that come behind me. They don't have to jump through the hoops that I have to jump through that can go to work and work with in a diverse environment of folks that look like them from various backgrounds. And I think that's frankly what folks like Donna Brazil, Mignon Moore, Aliyah Daughtre, Yolanda Caraway, Susan Rice, people forgetting, Susan Rice is working on the same camp early on in the same campaigns as Donna Brazila and Minya Moore. That's what they did for an entire generation of young people like myself, which give me the ability to even sit in the seat that I currently sit in.

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  35. The Democratic side, on the Republicans, our Republican friends still need to do a little work, okay? They're not there yet. Not at all, not even close. And it's a travesty. It's a travesty. But so while it is changing, which is great, there's still a lack of not just representation, but a diversity of thoughts and ideas at the top, at the top, and whether the top is a presidential campaign or the top is a governor's office or the top is are the campaign arms of any of the Democratic committees, there's a lack of visible people of color who are in positions of power. And part of that is because, you know, you don't get the job if you don't have the experience. Well, for a long time, we mean we, I mean, specifically women of color, but people of color, period, black people, we were not getting the jobs. And so how can I can't be the deputy campaign manager on the presidential campaign if I've never been a, you know, a political director?

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  36. Yes, yes, I have to because, well, first of all, my book is called On You Shut Up Because somebody told me to Shut up on national television. And I'm like, no, you shut up. It is my turn to speak. But I mean, yeah, I think it is changing now, right? Like this election cycle, there were more women, more women of color running things on the ballot, of course. Yeah. And so, I mean, 2018, more women, the most diverse class of Congress ever on the demo.

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  37. Right. So you're not, you do not look like everybody else in the business you're in. Now, there's lots of, there's a lot of very different people in politics, but rising up through it, you know, this book, you say speaking truth to power, you know, the idea of no you shut up, you're in a unique position that you have to be doing that, saying something like, no, you shut up.

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  38. Was a politician, frankly, or a judge because judges hold folks' lives in their hand, politicians make the laws that govern our lives. But I realized, actually, that it's the people behind the politicians that are some of the most powerful people because those are the people that help craft the message. And that's what got me into politics, and I got into communications.

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  39. What got me into politics was power. You know, I I found myself watching TV or participating in community and understanding that politics is nothing but a bunch of messages strung together, that some people in a room decide on and then a campaign, if you will, is nothing but folks thinking of different ways to communicate the message that some people in a room decided on. That's basically what it is. And then when you're an elected official, it's about how to basically make good on the promises of your messages, for lack of a better term, and then govern and then, you know, some other crazy things happen. Well, when it comes to the messaging, I saw early on that the people that put the message together were not representative of me. They were not oftentimes women. They weren't people of color. They definitely weren't little ball black girls from Nebraska. They oftentimes weren't people from the Midwest. And the message is where the power is. So I thought as a young person, one of the most powerful things I could be in the world.

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  40. I worked for a firm that did a lot of different kinds of races, mostly state and local. So I've worked obviously a governor's race. I've worked judges' races. I did state legislative races. I've done stuff on reservations, mayoral races. But I moved to DC because I wanted to do like national politics and I didn't think I would hit it big as a Democrat in Omaha, Nebraska

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  41. So I'm 30, and I am from Nebraska, North Omaha, Nebraska, to be specific. And I moved to Washington, D.C. in December, no, in November of 2014 after working at governor's race. In the 2014 cycle where you couldn't even utter healthcare, let alone Obama. So in a red state. So it was a very good experience. And I moved to DC and I worked for consumer advocacy think tank in the global trade division. I worked for Public Citizens Global Trade Watch for Lori Wallach for a number of months. And I came to DC because I wanted to do national politics. I had been working in politics for a while, even though I had just graduated while I was in school.

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  42. Folks like Anita Dunn, Kate Beddingfield, Julie Chavez Rodriguez and Corinne Jean-Pierre have joined our team. Like Natalie Quillen, the list goes on. Like I work with some really amazing women, Aaron Wilson, our political director, Ashley Allison, our coalitions director. I work with really amazing women. And I think my contribution to this space is I am by far the youngest senior advisor. No shade to my other senior.

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  43. Well, look, I think I came to the Biden campaign and I decided to join the campaign because I believe in Vice President Biden's theory of the case. And I think he correctly, as I noted earlier, diagnosed what America is collectively currently going through well before anyone realized it. You know, when he said, I'm running for president, we're in a battle for the soul of the nation. People mocked him. They laughed at him and told him that he was out of touch with what's happening. He was making a general election argument in a primary with some very strong contenders and he was missing it. And over the last year and a half, I think it has been confirmed more and more ways than one that he was absolutely right. And I felt that viscerally in my bones, that yes, we are in a battle for the soul of the nation. And that is why I want to go on the campato. And I think the impact that I've been able to have is, you know, I have the ability, I work with some really, really just amazing women, like our campaign manager, Jenny Dillon.

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  44. And you were kind of impact are you looking to have because I want to talk in the next segment about no you shut up getting truth to power but actually having power but talk to me about you how do you look at what you think your biggest impact is here

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  45. Well, look, I am a senior advisor And I support and I advise our political shop, our political strategy, as well as our communications shop and our communication strategy and messaging. I serve as a spokesperson for the vice president. I have a television hit tonight. And I have viewed my role here. I mean, my portfolio encompasses everything from young people to progressives to women to, yes, African-American voters, but also how are we communicating to folks? Where are we going? So, I mean, and when we were on the road, we're technically not really on the road right now. I travel with the vice president. So I, you know, I view, I'm a team player here. So I like to tell people that a senior advisor means I do it all and that is, I think that's the most accurate description.

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  46. Stay tuned. Like we're going to look away. We have nothing else to do, Simone. So I want to get into sort of your role. You're the National Press Secretary for Bernie Sanders. You move here as senior advisor to Biden. Then I'm going to get in your book in the next segment. But what do you see as your role? What do you look as your portfolio on this campaign?

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  47. If I did have a preference, I would not be sharing it. Number one, but two, when I think he said it himself that We look forward to having an announcement at the beginning of August, if not before. So folks stay tuned. Summer Blockbuster, running mate 2020.

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  48. Absolutely. I mean, it's something that's very important to him. I mean, if there's one thing he knows a lot about, it's the vice presidency. So he knows exactly what he's looking for. He knows the type of partner that he would want. The question on the table is, has he identified exactly who that partner is? And the answer is not yet, but he will soon.

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  49. Well, I think Ink is filled because of his age and other, the idea that this is a partner, this is something which I think Vice President has talked about, this idea that it's more than just a vice president.

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  50. No, we don't know who's going to nominate. We don't know if Joe Biden were here, he'd tell you, I do not know who I am going to pick as my running mate. So I think what you can absolutely expect, though, is that his running mate will be someone that can mirror the relationship he and President Obama had, someone who will be a good governing partner. Because the task before a Biden administration will be immense, will be large. And he will need a partner in order to take it on. So I just think that much ink has been spilled about what this moment means for the running mate, but I just urge people to understand that there's a process here and we have to let the process play out. But could it be a black woman? Yes, absolutely.

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