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Taffy Brodesser-Akner

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“You could do it too. You can do the bridge version. She'll love that. Yeah. Okay. If you like this episode, we really appreciate it. You shared it with a friend. And make sure to check out our other podcast, Recode Media, Pivot and Land of the Giants, which is coming up. Just search for them in your podcasting app of choice. Thanks also to our editor Joel Robbie. Thank you for listening to this episode of Rico Decode. I'll be back here on Friday. Tune in then.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Demand it in pandemic. Demand I would like it to be an analog. I would like. Of the simulated book. Red? Did you read it yourself”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you. Thank you. It's great. Thanks. You're a great character in the simulation. And thanks to you all for listening. You can follow me on Twitter at Carol Swisher, my executive producer, Eric Anderson, is at Erica America, my producer, Eric Johnson, is at Hey Hey ESJ. Taffy, how can people find you?”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, I'm not the sucker and I'm not a kiss ass, but everyone has a point of view. And if I don't convey it, then I didn't do my job. Then what was I doing? Was I just riffing? If I spent time with somebody and they conveyed their point of udemy, isn't it my job to tell you what they said? That's what I think.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like radical honesty and no commitment to form other than everything in the interest of telling a great story, like no indulgence, no self-indulgence, no funny asides unless they're needed, and radical compassion. I think that the internet that a lot of things are so cruel right now. We're seeing so much cruelty in the world that to have empathy for everyone. Is revolutionary right now.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It feels like I am, but you're a beautiful writer. So let me finish on. What would you give advice to the people who are writing in this age? I think a lot of people are super twitchy. I think they're not thoughtful. And, you know, it seems to be what you showed is the same thing works”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a thing that Neil LeGrasse Tyson says is that when you're in the universe, no matter where you are in it, you always feel like you're in the center of it So, I don't know if it's that or if I'm really getting a lot of attention for this. It feels like I am, but.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anyway, I'm very surprised about the attention I'm getting, but I also don't really understand it. Like if you go to the Museum of American Natural History right now. The American Museum of Natural History right now, the planetarium show is about dark matter. Maybe it isn't anymore, but a couple months ago it's about dark matter.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Elon Musk and Tony Shea, who started Zappos and others, think we're in a simulation. This is a game of a future power. Will you give me a phone number?”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And people I don't know how to feel about that. So let's finish up talking about it. So you're right, Fleischmann's in trouble. It's in the store. So it's completely you're going on a big tour and stuff like that. You're going to continue writing for the New York Times, one hope. Yeah.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have to hear about my babysitter who Otherwise, your friends, journalists can seem like friends. How's that? Maybe. You know what I mean? I'm always with a bunch of people and they're like, I thought we were friends. I'm like, we were never friends.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then, when they want to be your friend. Well, of course, they want to be my friend. I showed up when they said I would. I only ask them questions. Like, if you want to be my friend, you have to hear about my ingrown nail. You have to hear about my babysitter who just quit. You have to, like, I'm tedious. Like, someone should give a medal to the people.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's very interesting about what I will tolerate from people I'm interviewing versus people in my life. People ask me when I wrote the book. Like if I was so many features, I wrote the book sometimes on airplanes, sometimes on weekends, but mostly while I was waiting for an interview subject to show up, which could be anywhere from 20 minutes to three days. Yeah, where you're rescheduled suddenly because something happens suddenly and they can't see you and you're stuck there for a few days. And that's the kind of thing that I won't tolerate. People think that the thing I do is so glamorous and it's not. It is hard to always be the least important person in the room.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was like, you need to stop doing this And they were like, why? Nobody else minds. I'm like, they do mind. I said, they're just not telling you they mind. You finished the conversation, then go over there where there's plenty of yoga mats, I'm sure, that you can do it. It was a really interesting moment. I never forgotten it because I was like, wait a minute. Like it was fascinating. It's an interesting topic. It's very interesting.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. No, but it's just a different. There's always someone there handing them like the fruit with Gwynneth Palder. There's always someone. And so when you start to, I had an encounter, you and I will talk about rich people if you'd like. Yeah. But I was with one of the big founders of one of the big tech companies. And he was wearing yoga pants, you know, which I'm always like, please don't. And started doing, I was talking to them and they started doing a downward facing dog when I was talking to them. And this was someone I've known for a long, long time. And it was at the TED conference. That sounds like we're having a conversation, a serious conversation, and then they started doing it. And I was like, what are you doing? I'd known this for a long time. Oh, I just, I needed to do the downward facing drug. And I was like, well, we're talking and now your ass is in my face. What are you doing?”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But what's happened to a lot of these people who were poor because I didn't know them when they weren't poor, but they weren't rich. You know what I mean? Is they get very quickly get used to the convenience and the bubble and the lack of friction and they don't understand. Anything else anymore, and they really don't, and they sort of take it for granted there's a town car that leads to a private plane that leads to a beautiful home, that leads to it. And so when you talk about impact, they don't even.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know what I mean? Yeah, wow, that's quite an attitude in the same line of irresponsibility of tech people, like, essentially. And so I always say they have all the advantages, none of the responsibility. And I finally said, I can't believe I said this on CNBC. I said, they said, well, what do you think of these people? I said, well, they're so poor all they have is money.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so you never feel rich enough. That is true. Right. You know, I just use like a phrase on someone was asking me about some of this irresponsibility by tech people. And one of the, I interviewed someone from Amazon who was saying, we'll continue to make facial recognition software as long as it's legal and the government can figure it out. And you're like.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's what it's about. It's not about the divide between rich and poor. It's about the divide between the kind of rich where you've always been rich and your family's rich and you have never really known about the edges of survival.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have you ever met a rich people? I really have. And someone's like, Jimmy Billionaires, I'm like, I know 52. Do you know 52? It's some number that's more than a dozen. I know. And I know them like well. And it's sort of weird. And I knew them before they were billionaires. Oh, really?”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And there was nothing to make people up. If you make people up, you can't observe them. So I had to make these people up. And then I had to extrapolate what their particular quirk would be. That's really hard work in revisions. That was a lot of the work.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I felt bodily pleasure writing about it, knowing that I didn't have to deal with a fact checking call where someone turned on me and said horrible things that they would take back later when they read the final piece, where the burden of getting things right. Those are things that weigh on me. The burden of pleasing my editors and making sure I give my editor something that will please his editor, those things weigh on me.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anymore and see the reaction They're doing On Twitter is that Right, right, which makes you a nice person. So when you write about fiction, how do you look at fiction now? Because you get so much impact. Fiction has had a tough time. Some have it has. This is getting amazing review.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People express themselves. Yeah, people don't have to look at each other in the eye anymore and see the reaction to who they're hurting or what they're doing. There's some really ugly stuff out there. And it takes a second, and I think the reason I have yet to reach my inevitable cancellation on Twitter is that I take a second to think, like, this is clever, but at whose costs. Right.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you want to talk So when you're writing about this, I mean, it's interesting because it's sort of borne out by anything goes everywhere now. People express themselves like that on Twitter. People express themselves. Yeah, people don't have to look at it.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is what my husband saw. A guy was smoking a cigarette on one of the casino carpeted floors and a security guard came over and said, you can't smoke here. And the guy, looking him in the eye, took the cigarette out and stubbed it out in the carpet. Like if you want to talk about a story that predicted things, the Paula's story predicted a lot of this behavior.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have guns Yeah, yeah. And they might have guns. Yeah, it's true. That's fair point. Forget it, Jake. It's Atlantic City. Unless you're Texas.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the casino? Oh, that's always Like a baby. No, because then the baby could get hurt. Like, that's, you have to think about that.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Parenting moments around me in the casino. Oh, that's always. And I thought, you know, I saw a baby with a bottle with soda in it, like a baby. It's like, I was like, what? Like, can I do it? No, we can do it.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's me. I'm like, yeah, that's right. It's meant to be mean. I'm like, think you're an asshole. Like, I think I start to say, I know saying things is what I'm doing. Taking physical action, no.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, he's a big VC was something, and I thought, oh, this guy is such an asshole. And I do it a lot now. You're just an asshole. And I was like, I feel so good. It feels really good.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In this moment right now And just like forced you. I've had people. The nose right now and said. Like, what if I did that? I think of it this all the time. As often when I'm driving, what if I hit this car? Right. Like, what if I just...”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have like an OCD thing about myself where I sometimes do an experiment like what's the most horrifying thing I could do right now like in this moment right now what if I reached across and just put my hand on your knee and just like forced you I've had people like I used to think I remember once speaking to a rabbi and thinking what if I just tapped him on the nose right now and said that sounds good like what if I did that I think of it this all the time”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Yeah. Yeah, she's altruistic. She looks like a monster. And, like, what if she is a monster? What if you, what if the answer to where she is actually isn't as satisfying as, oh, she was doing in service of her children the whole time. Women, what I'm finding women are still people, even when they become mothers, even though the things that caused those books to be written in the first place are true, that a woman Is preternaturally connected to her child. What if something goes wrong though? What if it all gets too much? And I guess that's the most I can say about that.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So many Joan Crawford movies. What's the one Joan Crawford where she leaves because she wants her daughter to have a better life?”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know it wasn't five. I think the minute you lose your child just for a second, it's the only time you really understand how big the world is. Like all of a sudden that's the one you see it. And I thought, what if somebody is gone without a trace? Do you remember when Evan Ratliff did that experiment where he went missing and he had this contest? Was it for wire? Yeah. Yeah. To see if he could find him. I was fascinated with that. What if someone just disappeared? And what if it was the most taboo thing in the world? And also I was reading all of these novels or hearing about all these novels about women who disappear.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In a supermarket. Not a supermarket. Where was it? In that presidio in San Francisco. Oh, God, really? He took off on a bicycle and just I couldn't see him.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Honestly, because the thing I was most concerned about in writing a first novel was that I knew I could write a profile, but I didn't know if I had enough plot to get me through to the end. I knew a plot had to be an engine to get me through to the end. And I just thought. What is the thing that this woman might do and the thing that she might do, especially as she sketched now, she goes to Kripalu for a weekend and then writes the every side. And then she doesn't come home.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is your actual? It's Ackner. Ackner. Well, I'm going to say Taffy Ackner, who's a journalist in Hawkins. I'm sorry, Claude. Of a new book, we're going to take another break now. We'll be back after this. She's the author of Fleischmann Is in Trouble. Back with Taffy Broadiser Ackner. Sorry. Your resentment is coming through her. Ackner. She's a journalist at the New York Times, one of my favorite profile writers, but she's also author of a new novel, Fleischmann is in trouble. Talk a little bit about doing, you know, here it's sort of a great age for the New York Times and for writing. I can say this at the beginning because it's right at the beginning. He has the kids, he suddenly gets free, he can date, he can do whatever he wants. And then the wife, the ex-wife leaves with the children.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Based on Based on what school she was picking up from. And she was the one who was raising us. But then, like, I was saying about Gwynneth, I lacked the creativity, like the millionth difference between me and Gwyneth Paltrow. Like she has her creativity. I lack creativity. I mean, my friend Rayan just named her baby. She's married to the baby's father and she gave her baby her last name. And I was like, oh, wait, it could have been that simple. Yeah, yeah, it could have been that what? Yeah. Yeah. It didn't occur to me. You can do anything you want to do. I'm giving it some way in. Can you just tell me? Can you just write that down somewhere? That's what I, that's how I operate. Anyway, you have to think like a lesbian. You don't have to be one. But that's the thing. I was born with such traditional tastes. Right, exactly. That I was never forced to reconsider anything. Which is great about this book. I think that's what's interesting. We're going to talk about it more when we get back with Taffy. I'm going to do this. Brought us her Ackner.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How things go. You could have a man who's not very ambitious, a woman who is ambitious. That could be the arrangement. And one day he can still be upset that he never got to fulfill his ambition. That happens all the time. I see it with so many people. They don't name it. They don't quite name it. It's just the thing I keep seeing. And so when that happens, all the other crap about marriage, did you do the vaccination record? Did you fill out the camp forms? Can you fill out the camp forms? Why did we hyphenate our last name? It makes the camp forms so hard. Oh my God, I thought we were because I felt like you're lesbians. I know. I know. Maybe secretly. What happened was that my mother was divorced twice and she had three children with my father and another child with my stepfather. And she had to go around changing her last name.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anyway, so you started writing it, and what's the goal here? Talk a little bit about what you want. Tell the story a little bit of the story, get people interested in it, because it's a great premise. It's like Kramer versus Kramer. Some have said that it's about the constraints of marriage and the constraints of divorce and children and children in the time that we're living in now. where a woman kind of is an unacceptable thing it's unacceptable for her to assume a traditional role it's unacceptable for her to succeed at the highest levels what's she supposed to do like we can't we can succeed how we want to but we can't pretend that if we're heterosexual and if we are trying to have a relationship with a man that there isn't something that we don't have to consider the regard of those men because the regard of those men is what will produce”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Jammed in the keyboard, and who knows? We wouldn't be having this conversation. I like dislike that place equally. I can't explain it. Me too. I cannot explain it. I want to like it. I know what the farm tables. The farm tables and the folksiness and the tell is everywhere. I know. The tell is nice. Yeah. Anyway, so it's the chain. Then you're like, I'm going to chain. Then you're like, this is a nicer version of Canera. This is an era. This is a panera. Who are we kidding? I know. Just because you're wearing an apron doesn't mean you're not a panera.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Still expects a traditional role from a woman in any way makes me have a lot of questions about marriage and whether or not it can be sustained, like whether or not as an institution in three generations we're not going to have worn it out right, right, right. And gays are just getting here. Right, I know. Only gay people want to get married and go into the military. Think about it. That's what we want. What? Just a minute. So you write this book and you couldn't write a piece about it. I couldn't write a piece about it. So the minute we got off the phone, I think I was on Fifth Avenue. I pulled over into Pan Quitidian and I wrote the first 10 pages. And after that, it was amazing. Yeah, yeah. There was no Wi-Fi. Because it could have been like avocado toast. There could have been quinoa. Quinoa. The quinoa could have gotten.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He also needs you to still tiptoe around his fragility. He still needs you, he didn't understand that encouraging you meant that you wouldn't be there at the door with the martini, that his mother was at the door for his father for. So who has them, like who gets them, does the woman get the martini now? Should there be a martini? Is there always a balance? Is everyone allowed to be who they are? And the answer is no. And so along with the dating changes, and the dating is all kinds of amazing and it's all kinds of fucked up, just like dating when I did it. The idea that a man”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know if anyone told the men that. Like, I don't know if anyone told the men. And so what happens is you marry a guy who's a feminist, right? Forgive me. Yeah. Or he thinks he's a feminist or is trying to be a feminist and is being the change he wants to see in the world. And he's so happy for you to do the thing you want to do, but he also wants like,”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sometimes in service. I'm like, I'm like, is this the goal? I bet you this is the goal. And I mean, I'm not a size zero and I don't know if I could have survived in the here's what my actual size is. But I did find as a person showing up. So I thought that I just thought it was endlessly interesting. I thought it was different from monitor divorce in the age of Tinder and algorithms. Right. Right. And also the divorces that I was hearing about were all divorces in which the woman was out earning the man. And it was never the stated reason for it, but it was always there, meaning that some kind of traditionalism had been disrupted on a different schedule. Like the women, you know, I had grown up hearing that I could do whatever I want, that I could be whatever I want.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we don't really do that anymore here. Like, we need a celebrity bent, but also the other thing, the other problem is that the reader won't understand what you mean. The reader grew up with apps. And I thought, but there has to be a way to, like, I felt the storiness of it in me the same way I felt like Gwynneth Paltrow rising up through my spleen out of my trachea. I must win it. Yeah, like through my pores. I must. It's a call. And so they were just using these apps and they noticed that their whole life was different. They were hyperarch Although. Right.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Match. Think about if you can match anybody anywhere. What do you need to do anything for? Because the algorithm will match you. And can you imagine? And there was another one called Imahima in Japan. It was I Am Here. I'd like to have a drink in this part of Japan, Tokyo. And I was like, and there was one called Six Apart, same thing. They were all around this idea of matching. And I was like riveted to this idea. Riveting. And when you apply into human relations, it becomes fascinating. Yes. And there was a Nancy Joe Sales piece, who's sort of awful about a dating, right? About the idea of dating, so much so that I woke up my then 12-year-old kid and I said, if you ever speak to women like this, my son, if you ever speak to women like this, I'll kill you. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, so this was started. So this, you were around people were doing this. I was so excited. I called up my GQ editor and I said, I want to do a story on either like a profile of a modern divorce and this whole new world. And he said,”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be written about the psychology and sociology of all this. You don't have to leave your home to have a date to go, to arrange a date, to go. No one has to find you. No, not at all. And especially to me, it's the absolute, the center of the quintessence of it is with gay apps and stuff, gay men apps. Years ago, there was an app called M to M for Sex.com years, 100 years ago. And it was in San Francisco, which was perfect. M to M for Sex. Yeah, I mean, it was a website. But I was fascinated by the matching technology. So you'd go, oh, I'm in the Castro and I'd like to meet someone downtown at 4 o'clock. I'd like to be peed on and I like this. Yes. And then it went. And I was so intrigued by it. I was like, wow. And I was like, not this sex part of it. I called a very major internet person, Jerry Hang at the time. And I said, you need to buy this company now. It's for MTM for sex.com. It's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, no, it's not about the MDM. It's like that they can.”
2019-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT