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Tal Wilkenfeld

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  1. “Yeah. Or if you were to come from a Zen or like a Buddhist perspective, they would say nothingness, like emptiness is. Versus fullness”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Love is everything. I mean, if you define love, if you're talking about love as in romantic love or paternal or maternal love, or if you're talking about love as in In an Eastern tradition like Vedanta, for instance, love is consciousness. Love is everything.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “I've always lived that way. Yeah, I felt this way since I was in my early 20s. I'd be like, yeah, I could die today. Sure. I don't want to die. I have no reason to die. But if I did, I know that I put my everything, all my effort, all my love into whatever I've already done. So if my time's up and my time's up.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I'll always miss Jeff. But I don't feel like a piece of me is missing. And same with Leonard That I did give them a piece in myself, and maybe they gave me a piece of them. That I hold with me, and I cherish, but it doesn't feel like I'm less than or they're less than or anything's less than just. You learn to appreciate the impermanence of everything in life. Impermanence of everything except for consciousness, I guess you could say, is the only thing that is permanent. Everything else. You learn to appreciate that impermanence because the limited amount of time, like in this particular body, is it's enticing kind of gives you like a time limit, which is cool. I like that.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Just tackle the demons as early as possible, whether it's through your eye or through meditation or through whatever it means. Diaries, whatever it is, just walk towards the things that are scary. Because if you don't, they'll just expand. They become bigger. If you avoid the demons, they become bigger.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “And like we were talking about with Leonard earlier, it's like the broader you can leave a lyric, the better you can appeal to people in so many different ways. And even to the songwriter, like I'll sing some of my songs from five years ago and I'll be like, I didn't even think that it could have meant that, but I guess it does. That's funny. I like just giggle on stage suddenly because a lyric will hit me differently from a different new experience or something.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Yeah, yeah, physical level. So there is that combined with the right kind of lyric and the right kind of melody of the right kind of chord will elicit the very particular kind of emotion. And it is scientific. It can be analyzed. I don't particularly want to analyze it because I don't want to approach things with that. Advance. I don't want it to inform where I'm going. I like the feeling to lead me naturally to where I'm writing. But yeah. There's a real chemical element to that. And then also, like I was saying, like the lyric, what it means to you. Which poetry is supposed to mean something to everybody, like different. It's not supposed to mean one thing. Like, you can't analyze and be like, this is what this poet meant.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “It's my personal choice because I'm very familiar with the inner critic and I can bring her out at any point. Don't need help with that, you know”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “You're the one that's kind of dictating how high you're getting pushed in a way, like you're choosing your mentor. Like that whiplash video is like. He didn't ask for that”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Exactly, because if you do have that hosh critic inside you, it's like it is nice to have somebody that isn't like your family or someone that's not obligated in any way, that just sees your talent and they're like, yeah, I dig what you're doing, keep doing it.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “But why? What if that's not my path? That might be your path? So I'm not really, again, otherwise it feels like a sport. Like who can run the fastest race? And it's like, well, okay, well, I get that for that sport. Maybe it makes sense to have someone a bit more hardcore, but still, like, I would say athletes have the same mentality. They've got that in them already too. So I think more like a strategic approach to mentorship works really well and mainly just Having an open space and just being available to someone”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Not necessary. I feel like anybody that's truly passionate about something that they want to be great at or a master of or this and that, they've already got that person inside their own head. You don't need somebody else to do that for you. I think you need love, acceptance, guidance, support, time. Advice if you ask for it? Just a space, just a nice open space. All my mentors were just that for me. They didn't tell me to do anything. They didn't care. Because they're not. Why do they need to be invested in where I'm going only I know where I'm going? So for some mentor to come and be like, this is what you need to be doing and practice this like.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “He's expressing his lyrics. It's just pure expression. Exactly what he means. I feel Everything that he's saying with a hundred percent authenticity. What I want to hear from a singer. I don't care how many runs you can do and like, I want to believe what you're saying.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “I love that he is two voices combined into one voice. So it's like there is his voice on the guitar and there is his singing voice and there is the combination of the two that make one voice. And of course the third element. His songwriting, and all of this have this beautiful chemistry and all work geniusly perfectly together. And there's nothing like it. And, you know, he always beat himself up about being a singer and like he didn't like his voice. But it's like my favorite singers are the singers that don't sound like singers.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “So funny because, like, when I listen to some of the music that I create, like my I could see how this is a combination of Herbie Hancock rage against the machine and Jimmy Hendrix. I hear the influence is funny.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Thing I love about Jeff Beck is that he played the guitar like a singer, and I think that the way that Wayne Shorter played his saxophone is like a singer. Think everyone, every musician aspires to just sound like a singer.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Like, if you record the And there's like, say, like you hit a bum note to punch in means to Fix that note Reword over that one little area and punch that note in. He didn't want that. He's like, all my favorite records, just like whatever happened, happened. That moment in time, let's make a new moment in time. It's great. Nobody makes records like that anymore. Everyone wants to edit and edit and re record and this and that. And unfortunately with a lot of music, and I'm not saying all music because there's plenty of great music coming out, but there's the danger of it being flat because every little imperfection is... Is digitally removed.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “He basically just Would be like, okay, so the A section is going to go like this, and then the B section, I think we're going to go to G and then the bridge, I might go to B flat, but maybe I'll hold off and okay, let's go. One, two, three, four. And then we recorded it to tape. There was, he did not want me to punch anything. Like it was like, and there was one song called Same Page Different Book. And he liked talked through it just like he did. And then he had me soloing between each phrase, like little Phil's like, I. I didn't know that that was going to come up. And he loved that. He loved to have me on the edge of my seat. Like falling off the cliff. That was my first real falling off a cliff moment from somebody else. Holding me at the edge of the cliff. You know what I mean?”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Yeah, well, with that particular album that we made together, it's called Welcome to America. He called me up and asked me, he said, I want to make a band with you. I'm like really inspired by what you're doing with Jeff Beck. I want to make a trio. Do you like the drum rolls of Jack Dejannette? Was like his first question to him. I'm like, well, yeah, who doesn't? Who doesn't like Jack Dejeanette? Like one of the greatest of all time. And he's like, well, you know, sounds like, because we had a discussion about Drummond sounds like you're kind of particular about drummers. So why don't you find us the drummer? And I'll trust you to find the drummer. You can audition some people, send me some recordings and maybe your two favorites and I'll pick out of the two or something. So I did that, went on a journey, found a couple guys. He picked the one. We went in. And...”

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  20. “Like, it's usually after there's some sort of a break. But obviously there's exceptions to that rule. Sometimes it's take two and three.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “I would say 80% of the time take one has the most gold. And there might be like a mistake or two, or someone forgot to go to the B section. And you might want to punch that in so that you're hitting the right chord. But all the magic is in that take. And then sometimes it happens where it's like you go. It's like we're rehearsing and take one, two, three, four, five. And then you're like thinking about it too much and then you go and you have a dinner and you come back and the next take one after dinner is the one.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “I'm not doing it for the thrill. It just happens to be. You can always reel it back in. Yeah, you can. Can do a totally disciplined, I can go into a session and okay my favorite thing about going into a session with musicians that I adore is that we don't hear the demo because if you hear a demo you're hearing what the producer or songwriter have already imagined that every instrument is playing and then it's like well I've already heard what you want now my mind is part of my mind is focused on what I already know you want, what the destination is going to be. Why did you bring me in here? I want to not hear it. I just want you to set it a piano and sing the song I want to hear the chords and the lyric and sit in acoustic tub play it and then let's all go in the room and then take one.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “But when someone does something just to be hip, it's annoying to me. I think you can hear the difference. It's like when people like, they write in odd time signatures or they write all these riffs just because they can, just because they have the chops to do it or they know how to play in 1116 and whatever. But it's like, but if it's not actually creating a piece of music that's going to move somebody, then why are you doing it? So I think a lot of the questions I'm asking myself when I'm approaching a song are mainly philosophical and aesthetic.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “They're both things that are held in my mind. It's like, okay, genre, and then song, which is comprised of those basic, you know, elements. And I tend to kind of prioritize lyric because somebody is trying to express something over music. And so that the lyric is very, very important. And so then the choices come from there. It's like, okay, within the genre of X, this is the typical language. And then how do I best serve this lyric? And then Where else can I pull from that might not be in these two bags that would put a little twist on it? So, those are all the kinds of things I might be thinking about. But I don't like twists for the sake of twists either. I like twists because... I want to hear something that might be fresh.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “Well, musically, yeah, it's kind of like what was saying earlier. It's like each genre has its language of what... Makes it that genre. And that would be a good thing to say it's defined by the, you know, the do's and don'ts. Because, yeah, it's like. I'm trying to think Basically, I put the song first, and I think of the song as the melody, the lyrics, and then the harmony and obviously the groove.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “Actually, flipping a guitar is different. It does, you know, bring out something different in you because I've done it, like flipped it. It's like, oh, wow, yeah, really, it's really different. I remember talking to my osteopath about because there's so much weight on this shoulder while I'm playing all the time. And they were saying like, well, just after shows, just literally just turn it upside down, do the exact same thing in the opposite way. It'll like even out your body. And I was like, that's good advice.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “His hands were huge, there was no other place for the thumb to go. And it was great that he could reach the E string, and that was an advantage.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “Yeah. You're talking about might have even had to do with someone's real limitations on an instrument that then that would define their sound is the things that they can't, like actually can't do versus what you're choosing to do versus not choosing to do, which is that flip side of the same coin thing.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. “Don'ts is just to please leave your fear at the door. Do's is to. Be open to anything And open your ears, like respond to what's happening now. I think that quote you're talking about might have been more about an individual musician's unique sound. Because everyone has their sound. If they've developed their voice and they've listened to their own aesthetic preferences, of which everyone is slightly different, everyone has slightly different likes and dislikes, then you'll have a unique sound on your instrument, and your unique sound is defined more by the choices you make rather than, I mean, it's equally defined by the choices you make, the choices you don't make. I mean, it's the flip side of the same coin, really.”

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  30. “Of the sensitivity of the topic And then, I mean, I'm playing electric bass, so generally speaking, you don't particularly want to hear electric bass on straight ahead jazz anyway. You want to hear an upright bass. But if I was to play jazz on an electric bass, I might even kind of like palm mute. You know, like instead of going like... Anything to kind of make the notes. Shorter and less resonant and like kind of fade away quick because the upright does that naturally and I have like a different base like a hollowbody harmony that sounds closer to an upright that I'll use in certain like on my song under the sun that I put out that was on a harmony bass and it has like kind of an upright acoustic kind of tone to it but with more sustain.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. “I slap less, a lot less, almost never, actually. It has a very distinctive sound and does a very distinctive thing to a song. That is not something I hear needed very often in music today. In certain styles, like funk, it sounds awesome and it makes sense. It was something that was a little bit overused at one point. For instance, like my mentor, Anthony Jackson, he refused to slap. Like he actually said, if you want me to slap, I'll leave this gig. So, I'm not like that.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. “It's the same with sitting with your own emotions. It's like we, when emotions are overwhelming to us, we get real busy or we move real fast because it's like we don't want to feel our feelings. And those are the moments to slow yourself down”

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  33. “It is yeah it is because I hear there are certain people it's like they play really fast but I don't hear the fullness of tone always and it's like probably because maybe they didn't maybe it's because they didn't slow it down and really sit with each note and let it like resonate through their whole being his spiritual it's like a spiritual expression it's not just like you know It's not It's not a sport. A lot of people treat music like a sport”

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  34. “There's all these Micro movements that are happening that if you just go. You can't pay as close attention to the exact tone that you're pulling from each note. And there's a lot to pay attention to to how my fingers are touching the string here. Like I can change my tone a million ways just by the direction of this finger. And same with how this lands and how hard I'm attacking the string. And with what intention am I hitting the string emotionally, physically? And so even if you can go play that so slow, see how locked into a pocket you can be. See how you feel every aspect of that. Because then when it gets sped up is still there with you. Yeah.”

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  35. “Not everyone has that opportunity, but what the opportunity that we have now that I didn't have when I was starting is that everything's on YouTube. Like every interview with every genius, like you don't need to necessarily have these people in person now. I mean, it, and then I'll say to that, yes and no. I agree with myself and then I don't agree with myself. And the reason is I do believe that there is something that happens when you're in person with a master. In some cases, that there is something transferred that is not intellectual, it's not spoken, there's something else that happens, that can happen that I've experienced. And I really value that.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. “And then I come back and I trust that it's going to be there and is there. So just trusting yourself, I think, is really important. Trusting that you know you better than anybody else is going to know you. So that's the kind of thing with teachers that can be either really, really helpful and great or really not great. Like I'm primarily self-taught. I've had amazing mentors of all walks of life. And I think I'm unbelievably blessed that my mentors are some of my favorite musicians on Earth, whether it's Leonard Cohen or Jeff Beck or Wayne Shorter, whoever these people are, like they are my favorite musicians.”

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  37. “Some people, it's a long thing, and some people it's short, it very, very much varies. It might have to do with how you learn and getting to know your strengths in learning, more oral or more, what's your strength and playing off of those strengths. For me, like it was, like I was saying earlier, it was just an intuitive thing that I knew, I can feel when my brain is full, like that it needs. Processing time. And so I listen to that. I don't push past it. Even if it's like one minute and I do something, I'm like, okay.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. “Both, you know, like every instrument has its strengths, beauty, limitations, range, like possible range that can be extended to some degree or another, depending on who you are. Like trumpet or something, you know, like certain people can hit higher notes than others, blah, blah, blah. That being said, we're all playing the same 12 or 24. However you divide the octave, that many notes. We're all playing the same notes. So, in that sense, it's all the same thing. It's just music or better yet. It's just art or expression. But yeah, every instrument has, you know, you got to go through the physical. Physical aspects of it the motor skills and all of that and hopefully you get through that really quickly so you can get to the expression Quickly because if you get stuck in just that first phase, that'd be really boring”

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  39. “Yeah. I mean, I always like there's certain points in shows where I'm just like, Consciously, I'm like, oh, yes, there's an audience over there”

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  40. “Yeah, it's a lot of like the physical labor aspect of it is really hard playing on stage to two people or 2,000 or 20,000 doesn't make a difference. I mean, it makes a difference to the ticket sales which informs how what level of luxury might have on the road or not. But other than that, it's just people there listening to music. The music doesn't change.”

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  41. “It's jagged Yeah, it's jagged. It's all over the place. It's uncertain. It's one thing, one moment, and a completely different thing, another moment. You never know what's going to happen. And if you thrive on variety, which I love variety, then it's perfect. But also every human being needs a certain amount of certainty and structure. And so the certainty can come from your inner knowing knowing that you're doing exactly what you want to be doing and knowing what your purpose is in doing it, in this expression. Otherwise, you're just kind of like a leaf blowing in the wind.”

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  42. “The why is really important because it's a jagged lifestyle and there's a lot in it. And so if you don't have your purpose, if you're not centered in your purpose, then all that jagged lifestyle is probably going to get to you.”

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  43. “I think first and foremost understanding why you are playing music if it's because you have something that you're trying to express or that you're just in love with expression itself, with art itself. Those are great reasons. To start this journey.”

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  44. “Sonheim used to write like that. He wouldn't move on until he would just go this way. Whereas for me, it's just like, I'll just go with what seems to be coming naturally and I'll just let it be what it is. And then you come back and you say, okay, well, what do I have to do to this now? What's needed?”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. “It's song dependent. Some just flow out, and it's like, oh, there it is. Everything's there. And then other songs, it's like you might have started it with music and there's some words that come out and then trying to fill in the rest of the words. Sometimes it can be like a square peg and a round hole and other times it's like, oh no, I can, you know, it depends. Sometimes it becomes like a math problem and hopefully it doesn't because you just want to say what's right for the song. And usually when you write it all together, like the lyric and the melody and the chords and everything's kind of developing at once, at least for the first draft, that's very, very helpful.”

    2024-01-09 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #408 – Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. “Like when you mentioned hallelujah, you know, he wrote like 80 verses to hallelujah before he narrowed it down to like four. And it took him like 15, 20 years to write that song. So some writers will do that. And then other writers just. Vomited out and it's beautiful. Like I've heard that Bob Dylan or Joni Mitchell, they're like they're fast writers. They just kind of just kind of comes out.”

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  47. “It's more lyrical than musical now. Because it's like, for me, it's like So much music in the world. If I'm going to write a song, I want the song to be about something interesting, and so yet the words matter to me.”

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  48. “Now I'm not practising as much I'm more always writing songs in my head, so that's why I like silence. That's why I love being in the empty hotel room and being alone or, you know, songs come to me while I'm showering or walking around doing the dishes or Occasionally, when I'm hanging out with friends or like comedians and people just like say shit, and I'll be like, that's a cool line. Like, jotted down my phone.”

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  49. “For a minute or so, and then you let your brain rest for thirty seconds or a minute, that in that 30 seconds or a minute, your brain does the repetition 20 to 30 times faster and in reverse. And I was like, whoa, that's so cool because that's what I used to do when I was a kid. Like now there's science that proves that, which is really cool from, you know, for musicians to know that. That's a good way to practice efficiently because you know, like some musicians, they like practicing for six, seven, eight hours a day. I've never done that. I've never practiced more than an hour a day even now. Like I've just, just that's my technique. And it works.”

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  50. “Yeah, I just like my brain. It's like my brain was telling me just chill out for a sec. That's enough information. Let me take a second to integrate that. That's what at least what it felt like to me. And the most hilarious thing happened a couple months ago. I know you're friends with Andrew Huberman. So he put out some clip, which was a part of one of his podcasts about learning. And he said that there was some research done on learning fast and that if you practice something.”

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