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Ta-Nehisi Coates

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first: 2020-06-08
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“Yeah, no, there was always some sort of politics in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, so I think I'm well within the tradition of that. Still, you know, get the punch bad guys and that sort of thing. I am supposed to be on Boog Leave from the Atlantic, but I'm not. I'm working on a top secret project for the magazine. And I just finished that book, the book We With Ages Empower this year. Yeah.”
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“I'm writing them, so it's like being a kid again. I was literally on the plane working, you know, I was flat. But you're not, it's.”
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“I did. I did, but I'm back now. I've been back since I came back in 2016. I'm living in New York. I am working on a comic book, which is a lot of fun. You were a big...”
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“But in the flip side of that, like, I guess what that means is what we need is a string of politicians who are as gifted as Barack Obama. And I don't think that's going to happen.”
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“That Bertha was a number didn't disturb you. Throughout Obama's presidency, of course it disturbed me. I mean, that would have scared the hell out of me, man.”
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“Whatever reason, our history, our culture, well, I know the reason not for whatever reason has basically made it so folks look past things that should not be looked past that are actually quite dangerous.”
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“You know, and I have to tell you that it's anybody that was going through the looked past it too. I mean, that's just the obvious truth. I think the difference is racism and white supremacy have a particular valence in American history that is very, very different. And so I think looking passive means it's something. We aren't in Germany, for instance, right after the Holocaust. But in America, we're in a place where Jim Crow is within living memory. And so I think... Listen, I don't, it's not that I think like the argument gets mangled. the individual person like I'm making a moral argument against the individual person as a bad person and more what I see is that”
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“I don't think all the people voted for Trump. As I said, racist or whites. That's not the assumption. But I make the assumption that they were willing to look pacif for reasons.”
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“And I'm also formed by this idea, I can remember going to the Million Man March in 1995, right? Now listen, Farrakhan, bigot, anti-Semite, homophobic. All of that. But the reasons for people going to the Million Man March were just as complicated, you know, as, you know, and they were actually very similar. None of the excuses that people bring up now for white working class people voting for Trump were brought up then. It was why are all these black people rallied?”
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“I mean, yeah, don't forget Berthaism, right? But I'm not even really getting to the rank and obvious sexism. You know, listen, I wrote my piece from my one angle, but it's, you know, another angle that that piece could be from. I just don't think it's exculpatory to say, yeah, it wasn't the main reason, but I look past it. I mean, I think in any oppressive point, and if we went to the South in the 1940s, you went to North Carolina, South Carolina. How many people rapidly actually hated black people? And how many people actually just sort of going along?”
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“Adjudicating case because he just said it continue to maintain that a group of people, a group of young men in New York long ago exonerated were guilty and central parks Central Park 5 deserved the death penalty I'm just talking about race here man I'm not even getting to”
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“Yeah, I think they are. Because I make them. It's hard. So let me do, I believe that there is a section of white America, relatively broad section of white America that is suffering under the weight of de-industrialization, under the weight of a global economy whose identity and way of life and income and ability to support a family is tied to a kind of America that is disappearing and that the people who run our politics have not done enough to make sure those folks are taken care of. Yes. Yeah, I don't have a problem saying that or believing that. But I think two other things. I think... That's not enough to get you excused from voting for someone who literally ran on a Muslim ban. His words, not mine, who literally said that a judge is not capable.”
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“No, it was before. Yeah, and you said to me. Ironically, he has the energy, not her. In other words, it was the Trump campaign that most resembled the Obama campaign in that sense. It had the energy. In a way that”
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“I don't know if you remember, but you said to me when I interviewed you, you said. And I think at this point, you still thought Hillary was going to win. Or, maybe not. No, no, I think it was.”
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“I mean, in other words, it is not the idea that they're burning crosses on the lawn that scares me. You know what I mean? It's the fact that it's not disqualifying. That is scary, man.”
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“No, no, I'm not, but I'm just trying to poke around here. No, no, and I'm glad this actually helps me clarify a little bit. That scares me. Like, that scares me because it's not simply, like, I don't think it's the case that it's as simple as... White supremacy bar none, in other words, without anything else made Donald Trump. President. I don't think it's the case that say 60, 70% of his voters are racist and said X, Y, and Z. But I do think it's a case that a disturbing minority are and the rest just overlooked it.”
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“How would that have played if Obama had taken Like, if he had been out of government for a period and taken $400,000 in speeches from Goldman Sachs,”
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“No, and not even with a rebuttal, but with a question. Because the way I think about that, like when I hear those comparisons, it is as though you're holding...”
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“But there's a flip side of that too. You know, a worse part that has, I think, a long record of having tremendous power also.”
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“Yeah, although I probably would have felt that way even if Hillary Clinton had won. I felt that way before. I think the very fact that Trump was the Republican nominee was enough, that he was even plausible. And I would actually wind it back. You see, those eight years when you could have taken a poll of the Republican Party and found at a minimum plurality, and oftentimes a majority of voters that would tell you the president of the United States was not a citizen. That was dangerous. That was dangerous. And if I have a critique, it's that that was not taken seriously enough. Obama would often say is like he really believed and really believes in the best part of the country and that the best part of the country has this kind of power. That's truly different in terms of the history of the world.”
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“Know that activists who make a very, very credible case that clemency should have been used more. Having said that, it was used more than any of his predecessors. I think having an attorney general who would go down to Ferguson and not just investigate the death of Mike Brown, but investigate the entire police department, I think that was huge. I had never seen that happen before. I don't think, obviously that's not where we are now. But I think the fact that things get rolled back doesn't make those efforts insignificant. Ulysses Grant did a lot of great things, broke the Ku Ku Kux Klan, passed the first civil rights legislation under him. And a lot of that was ultimately rolled back. That doesn't mean that those efforts are insignificant, though.”
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“No, it would never signal that. I think what you get from me is. Question about and then before I get to that though, let me be very clear there are also policy things that I think are really, really important. I actually think the architecture of Obamacare actually opened the door for this whole conversation people having about single payer now. Even though some of those folks are deeply critical, I think the very fact of that opens up bigger and broader things. I think his engagement, although I don't know where this is going to go. Think his engagement with the criminal justice system is really, really important.”
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“United States Senate. And so it shows a kind of progress certainly that a gifted individual coming along at the right time with just enough luck can do it. I mean, that means something, you know. It does not mean that the country is cured of, and he wouldn't even mean anything.”
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“It wasn't time and for him it was time. You know what I mean? The culture and the politics had changed enough that somebody, because I don't think he could have been president 20 years ago.”
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“He left possibility. I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland, and the first black elected mayor of Baltimore, Maryland was Kurt Smoke. Who was Obama before Obama? And there are tons of these, you know, he's not the only one. You know what I mean? You know, a guy from the community who related to the community, but Ivy League educated top is class, athlete. You know what I mean? Great at everything, comes back to the community. It's going to bridge the gap. But it wasn't Kurt Schmoke's time. And I'm sure then you probably can name tons of other politicians, maybe Bradley out in Los Angeles. You know what I mean? All of these, you know, sort of predecessors, maybe Harold Washington. You know what I mean? People who it just, it wasn't time.”
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“You know what I mean? No, no, I got caught on camera smoke, and then I got to say, well, no, but you got mistakes too. I don't even have to play that game. Don't have to do that, you know what I mean? Because in their whole presentation, they're twice as good. They're better than you. You understand what I'm saying? They're better than any, you know what I'm saying? So I don't even have to, and that was beautiful. You know what I mean? Like, it was just to be liberated from that. And that was going away. So I wanted to conjure the sense of loss it felt was going away.”
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“You always defending people. You know what I mean? Defending their, you know, morally, like you're defending your preacher and his sort of sloppy stuff that he's doing. But that's my preacher. And you felt like with Barack and Michelle, you never had to defend them. You know, I had to defend them. You know what I mean? I don't have to admit anything. Right. Well, you might, I mean, politically, right? No, morally you don't have to defend. No, no.”
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“This had been for all of its problems. This had been a magical eight years. This had been incredible. I mean, we have a narrative and a conversation and a dialogue in our own communities of being embarrassed even by the people we defend. You know what I mean? I was in DC as a political reporter when Marion Barry comes back. People defended Marion Barry up one side down the other. And I get it. That's not, you know, I don't blame him for that in our own private spaces. We be like, come on, man. Come on, smoking crack on camera. Come on. Come on. Now, we didn't want to hear white folks come.”
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“But I wanted people to always tell the story, and it's actually in that piece. When I was doing that, I listened to Marvin Gage's distant love over and over and over and over again because it was a wordless feeling in that song, a sense of loss for something that you loved and was leaving and that you were really, really going to miss. And I wanted that to come through in the piece. I wanted the sense of, you know, because the year going up to, even before Trump won. I felt so much sadness in the black communities I was in.”
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“I didn't feel that certain. So I had left it open enough that it would be very easy to alter it. And it wasn't hard So all I had to do was alter the light a little bit, like shade it a different way. So that opening scene had to, as opposed to be celebratory, there had to be some sort of last dance aspect of an impending tragedy. So I just had to, you know, just tilt the light a little bit”
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“My president was black. You talk about that party. And I wanted people who were at that party to say, I could not have told you it felt like this, but that was how it felt. I recognize it. That was, you know, I feel a certain thing that I can't put into words. But when I read this, I see it in words. And yes, that's how I felt in that moment. When I was writing that piece, I finished it before the election. I finished the rough of it before the election.”
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“And I wanted it, and I didn't just want the information that I heard those private spaces conveyed. I wanted all of the emotion, the feeling. You know what I mean? And I wanted to name those emotions so that when those people who were in those conversations read those pieces, they thought, yes, that's how I felt. That's, yes, I reckon that that was how I mean, like, you know, again, to go back to that piece that we talked about.”
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“Well, I knew. So at the time I was coming up. And I started professionally in the mid 90s. There was a world of influential magazines, say The New Republic, for instance, The Atlantic sort of center liberal magazines that I read. You know, I had a difficult relationship with because I admired what they were doing, but often did not like how they wrote about black people. And I believed black people had interior lives, things that they felt, things that they saw about politics. Had not been articulated in a language native to them. And so much like those rappers I was listening to, when I became a writer, I wanted to, in other words, not just write about Barack Obama, but write about Barack Obama in the way that I heard my community discuss the Their private spaces.”
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“Yeah, it was real, but what is the word? It felt, I don't want to say inspirational. It was a moment of illumination. That's what it was. It was illuminating. Illuminating. It was like things that I knew that I had seen and it hit somebody captured in words. It was like, yes, that was how I felt. That was how I felt when I saw that boy when I was 11 years old pull out a gun. That right there. I couldn't even articulate how it felt until I heard this.”
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“Huge huge it was the literature That heard That talked about the world I was in. So there was other literature I admired that I loved, but it wasn't. It didn't speak about my world. Like when I heard Nas, I was like, oh yeah, I know what that is. I know exactly what that is. So it spoke with elegance. The language that I knew about the world I was living in, it's like if you speak English, French, and Spanish, but French is your native language. And somebody is talking in French about your particular French town. It was like that. It was mine. It wasn't just beautiful. It was beautiful about a life I knew. And it made me feel a certain way. And I felt even after I started reporting that I wanted to write in a way that made people feel like that. I wanted people. And the feeling was not one of”
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“So I was like, what? Like, what clearly, you know, so it was felt, I think, that people. Need the people who are going to do the reckoning of what had happened and what changed and what this meant and articulate that and analyze that and think about that. And I had been thinking about what it meant to be black in America all my life. You know what I mean? And, you know, I had some reporting skills and so here we were. Here we were.”
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“I think the broader world was a lot more curious about the world that he claimed to be rooted in. I think people just wanted to know. They wanted to know. Because nobody expected. I mean, you know this. Nobody saw it coming. Maybe you guys saw it coming. But no one else. You know what I mean? Saw it coming.”
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“Yeah, some years later after that, you know, I had to lose a few more jobs before that. But yeah, I did. I did. I did. And I started on my own. And my dad... Know what kick me a little bit of money for it. And then, you know, the Atlantic took interest, and I got, well, I wrote for the magazine first, and I got hired, you know, to blog for the Atlantic. And, man, you know, once again, I was like, I can't believe you're going to pay me to do this. And that really was the switch. That was the moment when it started to change that and the fact that Barack Obama got elected. Those two things, I mean, just completely altered the trajectory.”
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“I knew he went bullshit me. So if he said I could do it, probably could do it. And so even I didn't believe in myself, I believed in him. And that helped a lot. That helped a lot. He actually hooked me up with the Atlantic. He was the one who got me, you know, plugged in with the Atlantic. And it just altered my life. You know, I wouldn't be here right now without that.”
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“World, I had never seen everybody moving fast, you know what I mean? I would come and mad Jesus, man. And I had never known there was so much money in the world either. Like everywhere looked like money. I mean, I had never seen anything. And he would sit me down and he would say, what are you doing? What do you got going on? You know, and he would urge me on and say, listen, man, you can do this. At a time when I felt that I couldn't do it. And the flip side of that was he had been so hard on me when I was younger.”
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“Because, you know, everybody wants to be a writer in New York. And so it's extremely difficult to distinguish yourself. And what would happen though was David Carr was a big shot by them. And he was working at the New York Times and he used to call me up. And he would say, you know, you should come in. Town, I have lunch with me. He'd take me to these restaurants, man. At the time, I was like, wow, this is really nice, like fancy. I've never seen it. I mean, I'm in my 20s, right? You know, less than 10 years out of West Baltimore. I'm like, I never seen anything like this. You know, in New York was...”
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“I don't know, but I mean, you know, I wasn't going to do it. So, anyway, I got pushed out, and at that point, I came home and we talked for a little bit. And we had been thinking about trying to slowly make our way to New York anyway. But at that point there was nothing left. And I said, well, Kenada, it's my part. And I said. Nothing like us here. I don't know what we're here for. We might as well try to make our way there. Unlike me, she had an actual skill that was in demand. People always need copy editors. She got a job up there. And while we cobbled together the money to move, we stayed with friends for a week and come back on the weekend. I would take care of Samari, my son. And after we had enough money, we moved up. And she made $28,000, $29,000 a year, I think. And I made about $400 a year, $400. Yeah.”
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“You had to write about your cubicle. They wanted to Jesus Christ It was like in school when they would give you busy work. I write a short piece about your writing about my fucking cubicle.”
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“I was totally spoiled at the city paper. I thought the city paper was the world and it wasn't. And it wasn't the motivating force when I was at City Papers, what are you curious about? And I felt like at the job I took in Philadelphia, I don't know what to motivate. I remember he had to do an assignment where you had to write, oh my God, this is why I got forced out.”
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“We matter how it at Howitt and then she took a job in Delaware as a copy out of her. We found out we were having a child, I left T-C and I moved to Delaware and I work for an alternative paper in Philadelphia that lasted three months. I got fired, I think a month after my son was born. Literally within weeks of my son being by, I fired or forced out to put it more gently. Probably for the same reason I was a bad student. They had notions about what stories were that felt restrictive. I just”
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“But no, I don't. I don't. I don't enjoy that. I don't enjoy. I love watching. I don't want to be a part of it. I don't want to be up in”
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“That's the best part. That's better than argument, honestly. Like when you see a good scene and you take all your notes and you say, okay, here's what I have. These are all my notes on everything that happened. But this obviously isn't all that happened. You can never completely capture, even if you were videotaping everything, which you should not do, but even if you were, because I actually think that kind of messes with the awful. But even if you were, you can never capture everything. You never capture how it smelled, how it sounded. And so what you have is these notes, and you have to stitch it into. Literature, I mean, that's by far the funnest part of my job. When people, what has happened though, some of the celebrity and famous, I've lost the ability to do that. So if I show up to watch something, I'm now part of it. Yeah, you”
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“Yeah, and I think I'm pretty good at that. You know what I like? I like watching. I don't like being the center. I like seeing. I like, you know. I was telling a buddy of mine. I took a trip down to South Beach. And I loved watching the insanity down there and the people parade and the 60-year-old dudes with 30-year-old women. And I just, I don't want to be part of it. I don't want aspire to drive that car. I don't aspire to be with that girl standing out. But I love watching it. I love the scene. There's a scene earlier in that book. I'm sorry, early in that piece. My president was black. I went to a concert at the White House.”
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“You have to be humbled by that. I was humbled, you know, when I won the national, yes. I don't want to act like I'm like, no, but.”
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“I'd rather not be called that. But I do. When somebody says his $600,000 over the next five years, go do whatever you want. Do whatever you want.”
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