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Taylor Swift
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“There are people getting better label deals than ever before because they are building their own fan bases. There are all kinds of new ways to participate. I mean, it puts us a bit more into the world and conversation of content creators. But there are people that do make great more middle class livings by doing Patreon and other subscriber-based tools that kind of exist at a hybrid of music and other content. I mean, it's like the bigger internet story, right? Just that you can find the more interesting, beautiful, special little something. I hope that that thing can also survive so that whoever has been able to have the time to develop that talent can keep on doing it.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Music's weird in that it seems utterly ubiquitous, but it's actually consumed the most by and obsessed over the most by a fairly small group of people. I think that continuing to connect with fandoms, there's always going to be a world of people making music, playing music for people because we love human connection. But that share of the hundred thousand songs a day that are being uploaded to Spotify from artists that are just getting going, just trying, I think a lot of those might actually never even come close to collecting 20 bucks because I think a lot of the ways that listening might shift towards the people who are less interested in music is just towards the, hey, I'm going to put on the chill playlist and the chill playlist is like background and helps me study. I think a meaningful amount of revenue could be lost there. The most exciting thing in music is that people control more of their destiny.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, I see the NFT thing as the music industry saw something else it could sell. Because it cannot sell music in that one to one transaction, it is forever on the hunt for the 20 bucks More than anything, it's on the hunt for the 20 bucks. And Taylor Swift has found the 20 bucks in selling clocks and selling shoes and all the other stuff that she's managed to sell and now very expensive tour tickets. And she has not yet had to make that turn. But sort of the midline artist, they're desperate for the next thing they can sell. And obviously in NFT is you don't have to front the cost of a tour. You don't have to manufacture clocks. Can just make a copy of a digital object and sell it again. So, you see why there's interest there, like the logic of it makes sense, the utility of it, I think, is lacking.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When I think of the promise of the metaverse, what I think about is private equity firm collecting royalty checks on streaming Neil Young's back It's like obvious. I don't know. It's like the baseline expectation all of us have in the metaverse”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Music will be at the centerpiece, and that is a huge part of why Apple is betting on Atmos. And there's all kinds of things that are happening in music to lead into that potential future world in which music will be essential. And if so, I think this is where all these headphones buying up these music catalogs, they will have been overwhelmingly right and they will shove it in our faces and say, look, this stuff was worth a hundred times more than we thought it was because when you're in these virtual worlds, all you want to do is have some great background music going on. Unless that's all just get written by AIs. And so maybe not. So when I think of the...”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If we're at this moment in a 20 year cycle where everyone is unhappy with how this model is working outside of probably the labels, then there is opportunity for someone to do something very creative and disruptive. And I don't want to deny that it could come from bad ecosystem. I've just not been happy to see how the mad rush of everybody into printing funny little pictures.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Charlie was like. It literally is the same. Yeah. So it's the same one. I have to say, I'm not following it too closely because it's such a complex ecosystem. I think you have to live and breathe in it to really see the opportunities because it's moving so quickly. But the one place of hope that I see is that the value of most digital products at this moment, NFTs has declined so much, it actually does create an opportunity where there is small collectibles that anybody can participate in. So moving outside of the million dollar NFT to the $20 NFT. And so maybe there is an opportunity for more collectible items in this sense. And there's just countless ways that people are trying to use these, you know, including ownership of actual music, being able to have exclusive license to music, wear pictures of GIFs that were made by an AI. There's many versions of this story.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I actually want to instruct the listener. If you go back in this episode when I asked Charlie to explain music licensing, there's a sigh, right? And then Charlie was like, well, there's two parts of the song. There's a publishing list. It's the exact same sigh when people have to explain NFT copyright. It literally is the same. We should just do a mashup of that psych across all episodes.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was immediately skeptical during the lockdown period in which all of a sudden everybody in music was like, you gotta join this live chat. We're talking about crypto. It's the future of music. Again, it stood as an admission of like we can't sell this stuff. The music's not valuable. It's going to be the AI-generated image of the music that you have the NFT to, which will be valuable. And I'm like, that is. I mean, talk about convoluted, right? If we think that the payout structure of streaming is convoluted, I don't understand the fan model in which. Especially the digital imagery side of NFTs, which was so widely promoted for many months until the great crash.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not going to be discovered. So, I'll bring this back to Taylor Swift. She did live through these eras, right? She was the product of a Nashville system. She did not have a built in fan base when she released her first record. Now she has... She's herself very online, for better or worse. And I say that for better or worse for all of us to be that all of us.”
2023-01-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Taylor Swift and the music industry's next $20 · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source