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Terry McMillan

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  1. “Cheating couples, one last chance to commit. Put a ring on a cheat half, new series premieres Friday, July 31st, 9-8 Central.”

    2020-07-15 · Oprah's Super Soul · Author Terry McMillan and her Gay Ex-Husband · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “I'm Oprah Winfrey, and you've been listening to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. You can follow Super Soul on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. If you haven't yet, go to Apple Podcasts and subscribe, rate, and review this podcast. Join me next week for another Super Soul Conversation. Thank you for listening.”

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  3. “Epiphanal moment that moved me, and I know moved so many of our viewers, I called her and said, Cherry, that was really great. That was really something. And she shared something that she did not share on the show. She shared with me that she had been in her car and she had been feeling this angst, this rage, this anger, and there was a moment where she let the car window down and she said she could actually feel the presence of the anger as an energy field leaving her body and leaving the car. And she says, I did not say that on TV, but the truth is that was God.”

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  4. “And that's the only life you have any control over. You have no control over whether somebody else comes laughing out of the Tiffany store or whether someone else moves on with their life and remarries and has a wonderful, joyous, fulfilled sense of being in the world. You have no control over anything that happens to anybody else. And that is the great lesson of letting go of the past, letting go of the anger so that you can be free letting go of the anger so that you can get the mud out of your wings, letting go of the anger so that you can accept the power that is within you and allow that power to move you forward. After that show was over, I was so impressed with the way that Terry had handled it and that she had had this aha.”

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  5. “Not only is she laughing, she laughing and going into Tiffany. What am I doing? What am I doing? The truth is you don't forgive for the other person. And that's what holds so many people in the space of unforgiveness because they think it means I've got to now do this for you. You forgive for yourself. Forgiving is letting go of the hope that it could have been any different. Accepting it for what it was and being willing to move forward with your own life.”

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  6. “But anyway, the bottom line is that. Yeah, we all know why you were upset. Any reasonable person knows you're upset because you were betrayed. You were lied. You were lied to. And I thought I would hate his guts until I died. I really did, and I wanted to. I really did because I thought that the more I hated him, the more he would suffer. But that's the thing about when you're carrying a grudge against somebody else, I realized this a long time ago. I was mad at somebody. And then I happened to be, this was many years ago, I was holding a, I can't even remember what it was for. And I saw them on Michigan Avenue laughing. I'm like, she ain't even upset. I'm walking around like. Going into the Tiffany store.”

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  7. “Lessons, because every relationship is here to teach you something about yourself. What did you learn from this process? Realize that I needed to do what it would take to get me back to happy. And that was. And that was To basically let all of this go. Let it go. I had to let it go. And also, you know, I never, you know, when I was. Ready to run him over It wasn't because he was gay. I never hated his guts because he was gay. Because you know, a lot of gay people thought that. No, I know. And that was part of one reason why I sued. Because I hated the idea of being known as a homophobe. Jonathan deep down inside knew I was not homophobic. I have too many gay and lesbian friends. Too many.”

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  8. “Let me ask you both now do you wish you'd handled it differently? I wish that I hadn't. Been so compelled To sue him and his attorney.”

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  9. “We brought them back together. I did not know where to expect Jonathan Plumber's back. Terry's ex-husband is here. But something had changed. And the something was that Terry McMillan was able to really let go of the anchor. For the record, they just gave each other a big old hug. How are things between you?”

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  10. “Know, like, even when I call Jonathan to tell him he was free, I was free too at that very same moment. Know anger and bitterness It's an emotional termite. It just eats. You can't let any goodness in. Good things happen. I would never have known. I didn't know. You're living in the past instead of being able to see the present. I think that's so powerful, Terry.”

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  11. “Or any goodness. So, why did you finally drop it? When was enough enough for you? Ultimately, when you realize that it's your happiness and your joy, That you are sabotaging. And that the other person has absolutely nothing. And so I just decided. It wasn't even a decision. It was sort of like I realized that I just Lost 100 pounds.”

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  12. “Are a lot of things that were taken out of context? It takes a lot of time and energy to sue. And money. And money. It takes. You know, when people have said to me, if people are saying things about your untrue, why don't you sue? Because it takes so much of your time and energy and money. And you have to stay in that space of being angry enough to do it. You know, you have to keep yourself embraced in that fighting mode all the time. Oh, yes. Yes. I was in that mode for almost three years. Yes. But the thing is this.”

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  13. “You know he didn't have any money. That wasn't my idea. Okay, so you sued because you wanted to be validated? I sued because I wanted to. Lies that were told about me. Okay, which lies?”

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  14. “Yes, I was mad at him. You think your life turned into a public circus? It did turn into a public circus. Yeah. Well, despite signing a prenup, Jonathan sued for spousal support and attorney. Was awarded. Terry sued Jonathan for $40 million. Now, you know he didn't have any money. Oh, it was a gesture. It was a gesture. So you sued for $40 million.”

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  15. “Has happened and now what do I do about it? Forgiving is giving up the hope, not holding on, hoping, wishing, that it could have been any other way than it actually was. Giving up the hope that the past could be any different. And when I got that, I think it took me to the next level of being a better person because I don't hold grudges for anything or any situation. And neither should you. It's letting go so that the past does not hold you prisoner, does not hold you hostage. McMillan, imagine this five years later when the producers come to me and say, guess who wants to come on the show and share their story of forgiveness? My mouth dropped because I thought, really? How did that happen? What were the weeks and months? Like for you after that interview? I was pretty angry. Were you mad at Jonathan, particularly after that show?”

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  16. “That's As I know, everything in life is a mirror for ourselves. I am doing on that show what I'm asking you all to do now. You look at how this applies to your own life. At least hers was showing itself. I know for so many people it's pushed down internally. That's why people have road raids. That's why people are yelling at people who work for them because there's all this pent-up unexpressed anger of holding on to something that you should have let go. And when she was able to let that go, everything changed. I think for myself, and I know many of you, you think forgiving means accepting what has happened to you. Well, it is accepting that it has happened to you, not accepting that it was okay for it to happen. It is accepting that it”

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  17. “And she would say the same thing to you, that she was very, very, very angry at that time. What was the anger about? Was it about the betrayal and the deception? What was the anger for? All of it. Is it true that he wanted your money and to challenge the prenup? He did. You did? Yeah, right? Do you regret that? What does that mean”

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  18. “Something's off, and then you allow yourself to tell yourself that it's something else or that it isn't what you actually really think it is. You don't use your own instinct, your own intuition, and allow yourself to be put in a position that you later have to suffer the consequences. And because I know and respect Terry, I was really questioning, you know, why is she doing this and why is she allowing herself to be put in this position? And why is she still so angry?”

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  19. “You were not lying. First of all, it's pretty apparent to me and I think a lot of other people that, you know, something else was going on there. But I think that somewhere inside herself, if she were absolutely honest, She knew something was off. Even if she couldn't say that he's gay, she knew something wasn't right because you always get that little feeling, I call it a whisper, and the whisper is exactly that. It feels like”

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  20. “I think when you listen to Terry carefully, you can hear her say she wrote the book in defense of being able to explain to herself that this kind of relationship would be okay for her. So she was already defensive about it. She was already projecting what other people would think about it. I've known Terry McMillan through her work and her art and her Talent and her books, and I was surprised that she number one wanted to come on TV and talk about this. Okay, Jonathan, come on out, let us meet you. I was even more surprised that Jonathan wanted to come on TV and talk about it. This is your chance to say to the world, were you lying to Terry about your sexuality all those six years?”

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  21. “So many women love that story because it allowed them to think of themselves as still sexually vital and being attractive to younger men and doing your own thing and allowing yourself to not be bound by other people's conformities. What we didn't know is the mess that was behind Stella getting her groove back. It was a story based on real life that gave millions of lonely women hope. Author Terry McMillan, famous for her best-selling book, Waiting to Exhale, revealed intimate details of her own steamy romance with a man 23 years younger. That love story became another bestseller and a movie call How Stella Got Her Groove Back. It appeared as if Terry McMillan's Lonely Nights were over. Forty-three year old Terry McMillan was enjoying a tropical vacation on her own when 20-year-old Jonathan Plummer caught her eye.”

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  22. “And every one of them, everyone that had anything to do This is what I know for sure. I know that if you allow the past to define your present, that you never actually really get to live the life that you were meant to live because you're always holding on to what was and always holding and defining yourself by what was or what should have been or what could have been. One of the best lessons for me with this is learning that revenge is another way that the ego shows itself when you think that you deserve to be treated a certain way. You think you deserve to have things a certain way. You think that you deserve, deserve, deserve, deserve, and other people have done you wrong instead of, again, living from the true self. Now, we all know Terry McMillan when she wrote, Stella got a groove back.”

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  23. “I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now. Over the years, we did many shows with people who showed us how anger set them back, how holding on to the past set them back.”

    2020-07-15 · Oprah's Super Soul · Author Terry McMillan and her Gay Ex-Husband · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source