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Thomas Friedman

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“I think we need, and argue in this book for stronger safety nets and trampolines. But what I would object to is turning the whole economy around for them, stopping trade, closing off. Please take my money and take care of these people, which we have not. Because, you know, if you read Hillbilly elegy, a lot of it's about the JD Vance got out of there though, because he looked around and said, all these people around me made bad choices. They married multiple times the wrong people. They got into drugs. They were lazy. They did not know what world they were living in and didn't try to change. They had very bad habits. So I'm supposed to stop at TPP to choke off the drivers of the economy. And we never challenge these people. That's an interesting.”
2016-12-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Tom Friedman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Paint by numbers What about the lost workers? Because there are lost workers. You know, I just finished Hillbilly Elegy. There's all these books. There's like nine books about the lost people of the United States.”
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“I would encourage that, but I don't think everyone's going to be a coder, but I certainly would be encouraging that, but more so entrepreneurship. I don't care if you make cupcakes, recirculate prom dresses. I mean, all of these things that come out by numbers. Yeah, paint by numbers. Because the paint by numbers, when you've painted by numbers all day or led that class, you're going to need a massage at the end of the day. And you're going to want to really good bake good and maybe sip some coffee in a coffee house where someone's playing guitar. You'll never see it coming.”
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“And so I believe it's in ninth grade. They go into high schools. And one of the ways they teach math is by every student has to have a year-long program in entrepreneurship and everyone has to design a company. Has to design a business plan, has to show how they're going to go out and raise money for it. Many of them start companies. And in recent years, President Obama, at the end of every year, would actually give an award to the 10 best Nifty companies. And so we need to be teaching entrepreneurship from a, I mean, from absolutely junior higher high school.”
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“Feel behind I realize not everyone's built that way. How do we build it? And that's why I need three doing it for seven and seven doing it for 20. Well, one thing, one of the programs I've always supported is called Nifty.”
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“I know he's lucky to have his job. Exactly. So, what do we do to get a workforce like that, especially in this age where they feel, as you say, from technology isolated, they feel behind, they feel constantly pummeled by information. How do you get a workforce”
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“Robots, what are you talking about? It's not Mexicans, this is microchips. So, what is it then we need? We need everyone starting something. I need three people to start a job for seven. Seven to start a job for 20. Just what you guys are doing, you know, 20 to start a job for 50. That's how we'll get that $25,000 again. But to get that, we all need to become more entrepreneurial.”
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“You always got to think about how I can fork off here, fork off there, find another job, find another opportunity for myself or my company. Why? This gets to Trump, because the days when carrier is coming to your town with a 25,000 person factory. That's actually over”
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“No, no, because that waitress she didn't control much, Kara? She controlled the fruit ladle. And that was the source of her extra. She was being entrepreneurial. Maybe if I give her another dollop of fruit, it'll end up in a tip. And I so applaud that. And I think whatever you're doing today.”
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“And after 15 minutes, the waitress came back. She put her two plates down. And all she said to Ken was, I gave you extra fruit. I gave her a 50% tip. Why did I give her a 50% tip”
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“Yeah, so that's what I was just about to say. I think everyone does have to be entrepreneurial. So the story I always used to tell, this is from the... My last book, which I did with Michael Mandelbaum, that used to be us about America. And I had five lessons because people always say, what do you tell your kids? And I would give them my five lessons of what I tell my girls. And I won't go through all five, but I'll give you a lesson number five. And lesson number five was always think like a waitress at Perkins Pancake House in Minneapolis. My favorite restaurant. So it came from eating at Perkins one Sunday morning with my best friend Ken Greer very early. I ordered three buttermilk pancakes and scrambled eggs. And Ken ordered three buttermilk pancakes and fruit.”
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“This job area very well, but that everybody, but beyond that, everyone has to be an entrepreneur. Can that happen? Because entrepreneurs are special. You don't run across a lot of them and there aren't people who do that. Most people just do the bare minimum, really.”
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“So when you're in this era, it's something I talk about a lot because there's a lot of internet startups in the media, for example, that I compete with and I work with and I look at. And one of them, Jessica Lesson, the information uses the term I don't love called reportreneur. Everyone who's a reporter, you know, we both know this media very well.”
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“I mean, there was just so much. You had to force, yeah. There was so much of an obstacle. You really had to suck. You actually had to have a plan to fail because we stood astride the world with so much industrial prowess post-World War II. And so you need a plan to fail. There was just so much opportunity for blue-collar and white-collar work that would give you high wages for middle skills. What's new to daycare is that you need a plan to succeed and you have to update it every six months. I didn't do that. I swear to you. But this book is part of my personal plan to succeed. So I'm always engaging with the world. What world am I living in? What have I learned? How are things changing? Because my job is to explain the world. And if I don't keep my own operating system fresh and up to date, what does the New York Times need me? I mean, New York Times readers will go to Vox or record somewhere else. The opportunities are now manifold. So don't think I'm sitting back here lecturing people. I just killed myself for three years, writing a column and writing a book. Right.”
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“But the way I put it more broadly is that I talk about Minnesota in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, which was the golden age for blue-collar work, even white-collar work. I had an uncle who worked as a loan officer in a bank and he never went to college. You could have that work. And so there's a congressman from Minnesota who's speaking about Minnesota back then when you could have high wage middle skilled jobs. And there were so plentiful. He said, you know, in Minnesota in the 60s, 50s, 70s, you actually needed a plan to fail.”
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“They made me the International Economics Correspondent for two years before they would make me a columnist. I don't think there's anything particularly new in that.”
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“How is that different from when I joined the New York Times? He said, Tom, you know, you're good at this kind of writing. You're not good at that. If you want to thrive here at the New York Times, you have to write better leads. Right. You have to be a stronger reporter. You need what they once told me, you need to show you can cover more business”
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“So let's unpack that a little bit because some people might feel like you had a job at ATT, you devoted yourself to it. They told you what to do. It was essentially a top-down kind of thing. I think a lot of people would start to bristle at the idea that they tell you what skills. They know what skills they need. Right.”
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“What is the social contract now between that employer and its employees? You can be a lifelong employee at AT&T, but now only if you're a lifelong learner. And I believe that is the new social contract for the country. So every worker can take these, but your job is you have to have a different social contract with yourself.”
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“In computer science. And then they came back to Karen. They said, Kara, we will give you up to $8,500 a year to take the courses you need, to have the skills to work at the AT&T in the future, just one condition. You have to take them on your own time. If Kara says, you know what, I've climbed up one too many telephone poles. I don't want to do this. AT&T now has a wonderful severance package for you. But you really won't be working there anymore. If Kara is ready to do that, they're bargaining with you is when the new jobs open up, you will get the first crack. We won't go outside. So what is...”
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“Let's say he divides those into ten different skills now. Then they put every employee at AT&T on their own LinkedIn in-house LinkedIn system, Kara Swisher, Karer Swisher. Kare, you have seven of the ten skills you're going to need to thrive in the AT&T of the future, but you're missing three. Then they partnered with Sebastian Thruon from Odacity and created nano degrees for all 10 of those, including a $6,000 online master's degree with Georgia Tech.”
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“How do we turn artificial intelligence into intelligent assist dance? Intelligent assist dance ANTS, and intelligent algorithms. And because what I found out in the workplace, Karen, is that people are doing amazing stuff, precisely to leverage these new technologies to enable workers to live at an era where we're seeing that. Really significant change in the pace of change. So let me just give you one example intelligent assistance. So this is the HR policy of AT&T today. Pretty important company, $360,000 employees, competes every day with Verizon, T-Mobile Sprint. So what they basically do in a nutshell is their CEO Randall Stevenson now begins every year with a company-wide speech, radically transparent. Here's where we're going, folks. There's a business we're going to be in. These are the skills you're going to need to work at AT&T.”
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“You know what I mean? They get whatever they want. But we are in this era where work is completely changing. I think half of millennials are on this kind of sharing economy, the contract work. Obviously there's talent all over the world. Talk a little bit about where you see work going because it's, I think, one of the most interesting things and possibly destabilizing at the same time”
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“That's right. I mean, Homo sapiens. And the argument is because we could tell stories. And because we could tell stories, we could get large groups of people to work together.”
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“Amazing adaptations people are doing to lift the skills of their workers. So yeah, there's good news, there's bad news, it's all about how you tilt it. And I think there's plenty of reasons to be optimistic.”
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“And if you think it's all one thing, you don't understand it. It can be incredibly empowering and incredibly disempowering. It can be incredibly homogenizing and incredibly particularizing. I can be better democratizing and incredibly authoritarian. It's about the values we bring to it. And the source of my optimism is that I go around our country. And if you want to be an optimist about America today, stand on your head because the country looks so much better from the bottom up than the top down that I see healthy communities, I see unhealthy communities too. Many voted in this election. But I see amazingly healthy communities, including the one I grew up in in Minnesota, where people are coming together. There's politics, but it's much more muted. And they're actually figuring it out. Hey, what does the world demand by way of education? Let's give our companies the opportunities that they need to globalize to take advantage of this new system. In the workplace around work and education, my book is full of stories you will never have heard of.”
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“So when the world's good for 3D printer designers and people who can leverage that to make things now at credibly low cost and globalize it, it's also good for breakers. When the world's good for the individual starting a company, it's great for ISIS. They can communicate. They can pack so much more power in what they do. They can act like a government. So, I have a whole section of the book on geop”
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“Well, let me just say as an aside, I can ruin any dinner party and I do weddings and bar mitzvahs for all your listeners. So I'm not Pollyanish about this at all. And my book, we just talked about the technology one thought I talk about the climate and the globalization ones. And I basically make the point it's empowering makers and breakers. When the world's good for makers.”
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“Make sure your safety nets and trampolines are strong. This world will be too fast for some people and educate the hell out of everybody. And I think the miracle of America will work.”
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“No, it's none of those. He said it's isolation. And I said, Isn't that interesting In the most connected era in history, and the surgeon general is telling me that the most prevalent disease is people feeling isolated. I think there's going to be a huge amount of jobs around people-to-people connections in this world. And you'll never see it coming. And, you know, the guy who's running the painted bar? He needs a massage at the end of the day. And he might enjoy a good cappuccino with someone playing guitar. So it may be that we're going to think about all of these things differently. I can't say for sure whether they'll pay as much or not. I don't know. But my argument is keep yourself open.”
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“Yeah, literally, you teach adults to paint and exploding in popularity. Now, whoever thought there'd be a career. Maybe designing paint by numbers, dueling paint by numbers. That's related to another strand of the book. And I interview our surgeon general, Beck Morti. And I asked him, Vivek, what's the biggest disease in America today? Is it heart disease, diabetes, or cancer?”
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“As you know, absolutely, and it's certainly one of the things that terrifies me. But the fact is, we do have, with all this AI and everything going on, we have 4.6% unemployment. Yes, there's a lot of people. They say have dropped out of the workforce, but wages we now have been going up for the last few months. So I have a little more faith in the creativity of human beings. Thanksgiving, we had some family friends, and one of their sons is a restaurant consultant, restaurant business consultant, a food consultant. And I said, what are you doing these days? He said, actually working for a company called, I think it's called Paint It. May not have this right. They create these paint-by numbers classes for adults in bars.”
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“I'm going to counterpoint with you on this because I think a lot of the advances in AI and a lot of what is happening is actually just destroying jobs. and not creating a situation where we get more. There's no training. Things happen very quickly. So radiology is something we aren't going to need radiologists very soon because of AI. We aren't going to need... There's all kinds of jobs, real jobs that start to really get destroyed, not just manufacturing jobs, but others. And so Silicon Valley, as they move forward and talk about innovation and the future and elsewhere, isn't providing an answer to what happens to real jobs get lost. And that has societal implications, as you know.”
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“So it depends what happens really depends if you have your thinking cap on. You know, there's a concept in education called blended learning. A lot of people think, oh, we just give kids a computer and they'll be fine. No, you actually want the computer to do things that it can do best, but still have a teacher to do the things that a teacher another human can do best. And what I'm trying to celebrate in the book is that there are a lot of human to human skills now that are going to be needed more than ever. And there's going to be huge job opportunities in that”
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“So, when you have a market that's moving completely to digital, what does happen to all these other markets? Detroit happens. Lots of things, like things that are not, that have now political implications for it.”
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“And that's all part of it. And that's why the book is also called Thank You for Being Late, because if you don't marry these technological advances with all the things you can't download, good values, good teaching, good educating, things that take time and are slow, if you don't put the two together, you're going to have a problem.”
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“Yeah, there's no question. It concentrated in urban areas, which are highly diverse. So you have a lot of high Q risk takers. And in some of these rural areas, they've clearly fallen behind.”
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“Coming off the car. So that would suggest that this is good news that we have this idea that you can be anywhere. You know, there's a lot of Silicon Valley people use programmers all over the world and talentism is everywhere, that kind of thing. It doesn't turn out that way in practice. I mean, part of this election has been about how these pockets of innovation are very geographical.”
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“Because you had transportation, you had food, you had ideas, and you had power. You wanted to build your town on the Amazon. Where do you want to build your town today? On Amazon. Right, on Amazon. Right, you're right.”
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“Everything that can be digitized is being digitized and simultaneously globalized. And so these flows, they actually become the new energy source in the world. You know, where did you want to build your town in the Middle Ages? I wanted to build it on a river.”
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“Oh, absolutely. And that's why I think this is scaling, but it's being done around education. It's being done around media.”
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“They know about your business. They know actually Cara's running a nice little business there. Suddenly, there's a flood in Karristown. And Karen needs a loan. PayPal knows care is good for it. So they don't use any FICO scores. They just use their own big data and they are using this to become now a huge global lender. So it's all being done digitally. And I see this look, it's happening around”
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“With the digital globalization, well, what it's doing is, again, it's shrinking the world just one more notch. Let me give you one of my favorite examples of it. So, how many people know that PayPal last year gave out about $2 billion in loans around the world? without using a single FICO score. Kara runs a Sari shop in India, and she uses PayPal all the time. So PayPal actually knows you. It knows your business.”
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“All at the same time. So let's talk about each of them. We're going to focus less on climate change, but although it's of great interest to our audience for sure, but talk about what happens when that happens with the market. Let's start with the market.”
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“Right. The accelerations are in three things So Moore's Law is a proxy for technology. The Speed and Power Microchips will double roughly every 24 months. The market for Mecare is not your grandfather's globalization. It's digital globalization. It's what you and I are doing right now, digitizing everything and globalizing it. And if you put that on a graph, it looks like a hockey stick. If you put Moore's Law on a graph, it looks like a hockey stick. And lastly, Mother Nature is biodiversity loss, climate change, and population. If you put that on a graph, it looks like a hockey stick. So we're really in the middle of three hockey stick accelerations all at the same time.”
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“So, some say for the worse at this point. I mean, this election has been difficult for some, thrilling for others. And we're going to talk about the election in a minute, but these accelerations are this, climate change. Right.”
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“The anthropocene scene So, my argument is these four kinds of power aren't just changing the world. They are reshaping the world. And they're reshaping politics, geopolitics, the workplace, ethics, and community.”
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“Their cognition, they can think, they can design IBM Watson two weeks ago, co-wrote a song. So machines suddenly were endowed with these new kinds of power. It changed the power flows. Ideas now flow and circulate at a speed and scale we haven't seen before. You know, President Obama five years ago said marriages between a man and a woman. Five years later, he's following Ireland in saying blessedly so marriages between any two human beings who love each other. So ideas are not changing faster in scaling. And lastly, it's changed the power of many. So we as a humanity, because of these amplified powers, we're now a force of in nature, so much so that the new geophysical era is being named for us.”
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“Right, but here's what's new soak in the head of ISIS from Raqqa prophet. Now this thing is scaled to everybody. Second, it changed the power machines. Machines now have all five senses.”
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“No, but the cloud is we know it today really was born in 2007. And so it turns out 2007 may be seen in time as one of the greatest technological inflection points in history. Because what it did, it was also based on a price collapse, but it collapsed the price of compute and storage so much so that we could now leverage all that compute and storage to change four kinds of power. We changed the power of one. Holy Mac, we have a president-elect who can sit in his penthouse and now tweet directly to tens of millions of people around the world.”
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