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  1. “The Eureka moment. I even wonder about the vigilance of the Eureka moment, whether in fact sitting in his bath, whether maybe that at all, maybe in fact that is a long process. I think a lot of inventions. Take a long time. They don't happen overnight. And anybody who tells you they had a unique moment, I'd be very suspicious.”

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  2. “Community minded, both individuals but also organizations being able to function much more and getting back that feeling of digital sovereignty that we started off with in the early days of the web.”

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  3. “I wish that you've you would have asked about maybe I will maybe the solid system, the solid protocol sort of the fact that maybe the fact that all these open source people who are working on the new protocol are so enthusiastic about it and are fired up about building a new world in which the world is completely much improved on the one we have today.”

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  4. “Oh, I think they're quite liberal and I think what would have happened them about the world. I think the political situation, I think probably they probably imagined that the world would have been more liberal each time around.”

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  5. “I think they would have been absolutely fascinated to see chat GPT. Would never imagined that you would have something all of the problems, they were very aware of, problems of speech recognition, spirit of one by one, they saw things like now you can now sat naf works, you can ask an AI to navigate you across the world, you can now speech recognition works, now speech generation works, so they'd seen certain parts of those, but I think they would be absolutely staggered as I was, I suppose, to see what ChatGPT could do.”

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  6. “Well, I see merits and demerits who approaches certainly. You can see that when it comes to doing something like organizing a national project for AI, obviously the Chinese are very national project oriented, everything in China more or less is a national project. Sort of everything works for the government so that in a way the communist system clearly will give them an ability to be maybe take a lead and invest seriously in AI capabilities as far as the American system leaving it to the companies involved, they are going like crazy, but there's no coordination about what happens. There's no control over what the AI is used for by all these companies.”

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  7. “One place to go is sci-fi movies. Remember how the Commission 2001, which basically refused to end up feeling more important to the mission than the people on board and ended up trying to take over from the people, that sort of, you could imagine making movies in which that happens with the AIs that people are building now in a few years because the AI is so powerful.”

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  8. “I think I'd go along with the people who are working in AI, their spit, I suppose, as well. But I think the ones I trust are the ones who say we have to be careful about containment. Containment, you have to be careful about containment because if you have something which is smarter than you, then it will argue, it will take control of the planet. I mean, it's a very sci-fi sort of thing to think about.”

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  9. “So I think since Alan Turing defined the Turing test as being something where what it meant for intelligencies, you have to put this computer behind a screen. You can't look at what it's made of. And that was a really important message that I think some people have forgot that message recently when they say, well, a computer, it might seem to be smart, but it's only made a transistor and nothing made a transistor could possibly be intelligent. So in fact, something that's made a transistor can certainly be intelligent. Can it be super intelligent? Well, why not if you're building something which is as smart as yourself, then why can't you build something that is smarter than yourself? And if you build something which is smarter than yourself, then shouldn't you be careful? Shouldn't you have it do it in a very, very carefully contained way?”

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  10. “On your keep, well, they keep your data inside their website, so all the data from Facebook is stored on Facebook.com or the Facebook data from LinkedIn is stored on LinkedIn.com and you can't get access to it. So one of the things that I think people talked about doing is legislating that you must be able to move your data between different ones”

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  11. “So the wall garden is like when you're on Facebook and you're on LinkedIn and you want to share Facebook photos with LinkedIn, for example. Facebook and LinkedIn are two walled gardens. They don't, yes. So that they don't allow you, you can't share with a LinkedIn group your Facebook photos and so on. a whole bunch of different”

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  12. “In the scientific world or in the medical world, who's interested in doing research about you then finds you really, really much more valuable target. So then you go to the clinical trial place and you say, look, I'm prepared to share with you for the purpose of finding cures for cancer only, but for that purpose, I'm prepared to share with you all of my medical data. And also, if it's interesting to you as well, my credit card data so you can see what sorts of things I buy, what sorts of things I do. And so that's, you know, the model is hopefully the future involves very, very much more powerful research in which individuals contribute their medical data to the common cause.”

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  13. “In an ideal world, you have a data wallet which you control. And in that data, you can put your bank data, you can use it like any old wallet, you can put your credit cards in it, but also you can put all of your bank data. You can put your credit card data. You can put your health data in there. And once you've got your health data, imagine you've got your health data. Imagine you're interested in being part of a clinical trial of some drug which is going out there. But you've got a whole bunch of your data, your own health data, and you've got it in your data wallet. You've got hold of your genome. You scan your genome. And instead of giving it to a company, you've kept it yourself. So you've got a copy of your genome. So anybody...”

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  14. “So that was the top cover then was valuable because lots of people within the government knew that it was good to put government data online for free. They wanted to do it. Some of them were really excited about it, but they needed that air cover. They needed the fact that the Prime Minister had said, yes, we'll do this.”

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  15. “Well, the book is about the web. The book isn't about politics. But I do talk about Gordon Brown. And so got to know Borden fairly well because he agreed to put all the UK government data online. And that demonstrated a lot of leadership for basically leading the way, showing the Americans then had to catch up by putting their data online. And there was a great graph, which I don't think is in the book, we're showing now when Gordon said yes. UK put some data online and then And other countries followed leapfrogging.”

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  16. “People together around the table, and they really enjoyed being around the table. They really enjoyed talking to people from other companies solving the same problems. And so that, in fact, the whole WCC, the Web Consortium experience has been really positive and a lot of the people involved in it have been wonderful people.”

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  17. “Well, really, the important thing was to keep the web on track so the consortium I started at the moment the web was going, all the companies like in that day, Netscape and Microsoft, IBM, HP, these companies were all vying to be the best thing on the web, to be the best browser, to be the best website and so on. But they also knew that the web had to be one web. There had to be one protocol. So HTTP would get more powerful and URLs would become more powerful and so on. But all those standards had to be the same. So they had to agree on them. So then I led this industry consortium for many years until just recently 2023. I was the official leader of the whole consortium. And I did, and what I did, my job was to get”

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  18. “I have now a company in Rupt doing great things to fix some of the problems that we've got. And so I'm not averse to having... Be on the commercial side of the coin talk.”

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  19. “People don't get addicted to Pinterest, but they can work in groups, they can share things and so on on Pinterest in a way that is better for the teenage mental health than things like Instagram.”

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  20. “Well, by comparison. So, yes, I'd imagined it would be more like bogging and podcasting, I suppose. What's different with Facebook? Well, I guess Instagram was like this for a while. So it's the old Instagram and the new Instagram. I had an Instagram account and I followed people I knew. I only allowed people I knew to follow me and I used it for keeping track of friends and relatives. So now if I go to Instagram and I scroll through, I see there's a feed. So it's become a feed. That feed can have all kinds of things. If maybe it could get me addicted, I don't know when I stopped using Instagram because of that change. Really, the difference between Instagram before or after, or if you like, the difference between Pinterest.”

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  21. “So narrow casting is when somebody is on a social media and they've been liking a whole lot of things. So you, the social media company, know them very, very well. And so then you can then deliver a message to them, which may get them all angry at the other side, for example. And you can do it, and narrow casting is when you do it in a very specific way. You deliver it specifically because you know that that person is very, very keen about children or very, very keen about the army or something. So it means that instead of spreading your political message broadcasting it on radio to everybody, so it is much more like there being many, many small radio stations, which are very, very finely tuned to with only one or two people in each cohort.”

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  22. “We talk to her, yeah. Yeah, yes. That system, the polis system, I think it's called, that I think is the examples I that was also a group at MIT in the media lab. I'm an advisor to them. That's the Center for Constructive Communication.”

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  23. “Well, certainly with the 2016 elections, then it was a bit of a shock when people said that it's possible that the election had actually been swayed by people being manipulated on the web. So that sort of was another, I think people did a lot of people I knew did a double take at that point. Realized, whoa, actually, we have to make sure that the web supports democracy, it should support people being able to communicate across cultural boundaries. You should be able to understand the person who's arguing against you by understanding where they're coming from”

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  24. “I think on balance it's good because there's so much good stuff. People with teenage children are very aware of the bad stuff because when it's addictive, it takes people's time. And so it takes a lot of people's time. the bad stuff, the bad addictive stuff because it's addictive, it tends to sort of dominate the conversation.”

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  25. “There's a risk if the Europeans aren't sufficiently on the AI band dragon. But on the other hand, I mean, there are European that. Yes, I think that Europe should make sure they keep up to date.”

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  26. “Yes, well, I didn't say European self and certain wasn't a European, so it was really international. So what I prefer is something. Yes, based in Geneva will be fine, but international, so involve the Chinese and the Americans as well.”

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  27. “Well, right now, I think one of the experiences now, if we jump all the way to AI, I found that the CERN experience was pretty good. And just to sort of note that the CERN was put together after the Second World War to worry about how people who would end up making nuclear power and who would draw that huge forces inside the atom. CERN, I really like working there. I thought it was a great place, not just for doing what they did, but also for doing what I did on the side. Now, maybe for AI, what we should do, we should have a place like CERN, where we bring all of the experts and under international banner collaborating in a positive way, we should develop something where if it ends up being more powerful, if it ends up becoming a superintelligence that we're doing. It in a place where it's very controlled”

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  28. “Yep, if you like. The ISO, the feel that you have to do everything to ISO as bureaucratic. So by the time the web spread, the web spread through the people who were using the internet, the people who were using internet were American in American universities. So if Europe had funded the ARPANET, then they would have all started maybe in Geneva. But America funded the ARPANET.”

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  29. “Well, yes and no. The internet had already spread all over across America. So when I invented the web, it was relatively new. And there was a battle between the internet and the ISO protocols. So in a way, Europeans felt, no, you shouldn't use the internet. It's this kind of ad hoc protocol produced by these Americans. They haven't put it to the international standards organization. And so, therefore, you should wait till the international standards organization. in a state was a mistake in fact so europe ended up behind”

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  30. “So then Pessy was pooled in Dorset. So we had to go to Pools, so we had to go to Plessy. And we had jobs in various different parts of the company. And so then, yes, in those days, these big companies were companies like Honeywell, Bull in France, ACL in Britain tried, they produced perfectly good big mainframe computers and they worked perfectly well. But at the end, they couldn't compete with the IBM process.”

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  31. “So, yes, when I left university, then you'd go to the milk round interviews where each big company would send somebody to each university and you'd go to a hotel room with them and talk for an interview and then maybe get offered a job. And so there was Plessy, there was GEC and there was IGT. ITT was in Harlow, which we weren't very attracted to. GEC was in Coventry where the interviewer said, the great thing about Coventry is how easy it is to get out of.”

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  32. “In the computing world, it wasn't because people were coming out of university and started if you're building your own computer.”

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  33. “Have links. And I had this idea that you could take all of the existing documentation systems around there at CERN. You could wrap them up together under one roof. You could make a meta system which would include them all. And I wrote it out and gave it to my boss, Peggy, and I gave it to her boss, Mike Sandal. The now famous thing about that was that eventually, unfortunately, Mike died of cancer several few years later. And when Peggy got hold of the copy I'd given him, he'd written vague but exciting in Pennsylvania on the top corner. And so he thought it was vague but exciting. And so he let me play it.”

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  34. “Was connected to other notes in the system, other things in the system. And you could connect any two things together. So whenever you introduced, you could go to one a note about a thing and then you could say, now here's a new node, but you'd have to explain how it was connected to the other thing. You have to select the type of connection.”

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  35. “So I'd always been concerned in the back of my head about a few problems. I remember my dad explaining, he wrote speeches for Battle de Franti. Franti was a computer company. And he wrote speeches for the boss explaining about computers and one of the things that they would explain is that computers were really good at doing logical, organized things. They're good at tables, but not good at random associations. I always thought, Now random capturing random associations. So in fact, the first time I was at CERN in 1980 before a few years before the web thing, I actually designed a program called Inquire Within Upon Everything. And Inquire was a program which would allow you to type. It was terminal based, so it would, you type into it a note about something, and you type into it how that”

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  36. “they so that in the coffee they built kinds of people speaking English and French but also all kinds of other languages so all sorts of very bright people a lot of introverts a few extroverts among them a few crazy people who had a band based around the whole CERN concept so the environment was just really exciting and there was and I was a little British kid come out to Geneva for the first time so I feed for the first time so I hiked in the mountains for the first time so all that side of it also was swimming in Lake Geneva and other local things so that's that was the lovely part”

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  37. “Garcerna was a really wonderful place to work. So I was a physicist. Maybe that got me in the door, but really, but they wanted computer scientists. They had all these different types of computer. Some of us, the core thing is an accelerator, 27 kilometers long in a tunnel under the which goes under the Alps. The problem that CERN had was that they had people coming from all over the world.”

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  38. “So that computer would run in a very simple programming language. I designed myself called Tim. It wouldn't do a lot, but it could, you could record data on cassette tapes back in the day. And it could read programs off cassette dates.”

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  39. “Well, you start off by making the screen, you get an old TV, you get an old TV shop, and you say, hey, do you have a TV which has got most of the electronics working but not the radio part? And the guy says, yes, sure. So you get a TV. Then you build circuit boards. You make your own circuits, you plug in interagent circuits at that point, intergraduate circuits came in one inch long black things with rows of feet and you sold of the feet into the circuit board and then put in wires between the circuit boards. And so you end up building. And what did that continue?”

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  40. “Was it a lovely world, in fact. For me, I was a scientist. I was formerly I'd done physics, but the moment I got through university, I realized that computers were where it was at. So I made my own computer. I got my first jobs were all working as a computer programmer.”

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  41. “I think the way people could make money from advertising on the internet was good. That's useful. So it's reasonable you can have a podcast. You can make money from advertising and you can make a living like that. So that side of it is not bad. It's only the addictive side. It's only it's TikTok. It's Instagram. It's things where you're teenage girls end up With worse mental health.”

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  42. “People though, when you generalize about people in general, so some of them I met, some of them I haven't. And so Jeff Bezos I've met. I've gone to conferences, he's run about Mars, about space and robotics and so on. And so he seems to be a reasonable person. Mark Zuckerberg I have talked to, I've met and talked to Bergnov recently. But they're very different people. I wouldn't put them cast them all in the same.”

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  43. “Bad are the bits which are addictive. In fact, in the book there is a big diagram. Where I put the good things because it's important for people to know, to realize the good, you know, if you're thinking, I shouldn't give my kids the phone because of all the bad things on the internet. Remember, well, maybe you should give your kids the phone because of all the good things. Maybe you should help them keep away from the bad things. The bad things are the things which are addictive. The tech community a while ago learned how to get somebody to stay on the platform. And so once they learned that, you can take courses on it at Stanford. And so you provide the user with a stream of things which If it keeps you on the platform, then it's going to be typically give you things which you react to.”

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  44. “So people don't make their own when they want to be expressive, then they go to one of the platforms. And so they put stuff on Instagram if they want to share information. Instead of making a website, instead of being creative, well, there are some people, of course. Podcasts are some of the most hopeful things in that they are like being back in they're like blogs. They're just audio versions of blogs. You make your podcast. And so here is we sit here, the three of us talking podcasts in a way, we are a peer of any other podcast. And people, and that part of the web is still very much empowering of individuals. I can use a pick. I use a particular podcast viewer for listening to podcasts and I select which ones I get to listen to.”

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  45. “Well, mine was the first history, but the people who then came along, they were all peers. People could do all kinds of things and they were, yep, this sense of peer-runess, or we call it now, we call it digital sovereignty. It's the idea that you as an individual are empowered”

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  46. “For me, there's a very strong link, I suppose, because the early days of the web were this people hoped for utopia. You know, even before such engines, when you could just blog, you could link to other people's blogs. And then you'd look around and see the incredible richness of the blogosphere. And even before people worked, there was a feeling that I would blog about whatever sort of frog I'm interested in. And then I'd be able to, but then somebody else in the world would have blogged about everything else. And so everything will be covered. And so I felt that I was a peer among all the other people. big companies, small companies, they could put up websites, but my website will be a peer with theirs. And I could link to them or not link to them depending on what I felt.”

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  47. “Yes. And I suppose compounded with the fact my natural shyness is that I ended up going to a school, a manual school, is actually a train ride away. So the friends I made at school were all based around that sort of trap and junction area. The catchment area was based in Cap Junction, whereas I was coming from East Sheen. And so I didn't naturally have my high school friends around the corner. So I had two very close friends when I was in primary school, which I go through because Richmond Park was. We had Richmond Park, I found the corner as well, which was delightful.”

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  48. “Well, I think they were just, yeah, I think they were practical, logical. We went to church, but they were strong sort of atheist sort of thread to a very rationalist.”

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  49. “Well, so we didn't mom and dad were introverts, I suppose. We went to the festival hall, so we knew they would go to Messiah Singh and so on. So it was more on the classical side.”

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  50. “Yes, I thought computer scientists wasn't a turn. They were mathematicians and they'd been roped in to build this computer. And people were really, you know, that's the time when Alan Turing was defining what a computer was. So the whole idea of a computer was being forged, if you like, for the first time. So I was really lucky to be in that house with all the time my mum did certainly found to bring up four kids. So I was, yes, a very lucky childhood, I think.”

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