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  1. “It's a very tough match. They had a rough marriage. They fought it. They fought it out for years. And eventually we just knew someone was going to leave someone. Hewlett tried to leave him a few months ago.”

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  2. “Yeah, and I appreciate that because that's awesome. And I mean, that's great. And a guy like you, who's a brilliant guy, that's great. If I'm giving you the license to think, then man, the world is completely fucked. But I'm happy about that.”

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  3. “Is the balance of power in the world? It might, but I think a lot of the things that those guys criticize, whether it was militarism or the elites, the lying, the corruption, the bribery, that's still going on. And it's always going to go on, right? Because that's the nature of human beings. We call it out. We point it out. But we don't have a plan to change. It's not really our job. Right. And I think that too much now is like, well, comedians should have a, like, I don't tell people who to vote for. Like the idea that comedians went and told people who to vote for is like to me is crazy. I understand like people have strong opinions, but like, I believe I have a job. And my job is to make you laugh or whatever, maybe make you think, but like, my job is not to tell you who to vote for. I mean, it's absurd.”

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  4. “I don't know how much it changes things. I don't know how much a joke can dethrone a kin. I know the idea's nice, but let's look at the practical applications. I mean, we had brilliant comics. Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, we had people talk about so many problems in society, illustrate them, put a spotlight on them. And we still have them. They're worse now than they've ever.”

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  5. “But what does he mean? Is it the right or the left? And I'm like, I'm doing something that I think speaks to hopefully people on both sides for everybody because I'm making fun of people on the left and the right and in the center and people that don't care and people that do care. And I'm trying to figure out a way to do it. But then immediately anything of value in this culture right now is like, how do we politicize it? How do we put it in a box? So yes, I think comedy could produce a lot of inherently valuable things, reflective, thoughtful things, but then immediately can it be put in this box where all of those things can be used politically? No. And unfortunately, like when they say like comedy is a great way to speak truth to power. It is, but...”

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  6. “Know what I'm saying Yeah. When I hear things like that, I'm like, okay, you're being very sweet, but I agree, I understand what you're saying. I do stuff that makes, hopefully makes you think I hope that's what good comedy is. But I think I try to do that. But I also would hate to feel shackled. To the idea of that I had to make a point and that point had to be correct. I think the best comedy makes fun of everything, makes fun of both sides. And then there's a deeper truth about humanity revealed. But then what happens is people take that deeper truth and go, let's politicize it.”

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  7. “Go vote for Ronald Reagan. They didn't care. It doesn't really, it does, it's not as powerful as you think. I wish it was. It feels good. It feels good for me to say, I am the new thing. It really isn't. It truly is”

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  8. “It absolutely can be, but it also cannot be. I don't think it's any one thing. And I think there's a lot of pressure for a comedian. You can be funny and write. You can be funny and wrong. If your goal is to be right, you might end up being right and not funny. So the reality is funny has to come first. There are brilliant people that have been funny and correct according to people, right? But at the end of the day, people that put way too much things of what comedy is, most of what comedy is, is people showing up to strip malls and telling jokes for an hour while people eat chicken fingers and they all get drunk and they laugh and they feel a little bit better about their lives. That's really the majority of comedy. Then there's like 10 famous people that are really famous that do a version of that in an arena. But the amount of cultural power they have has always been greatly exaggerated. My uncles loved George Carlin, who was anti military industrial complex, anti dis”

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  9. “That defense becomes harder when all of these lines are blurring. Everybody's kind of everything now. So like people say to me, you should run for office and they're serious. And I'm like, you're crazy. But they're serious. So the blurring of everything means that people aren't in their lanes as much and that you go, well, this guy is dangerous because he's not just making a joke. He's doing something else. And he's using humor. And I'm like, I'm really not. I'm really just trying to make a joke. That's all. That's really what I'm trying to do. But I do think that because of the flattening, there's a lot of people out there that go, they take aim at humor because they go, humor is where bad ideas can kind of, you know, star and flourish.”

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  10. “Self-censorship. Anxiety, all of these things go into it. We try to fight it. I try to fight it. I think I got to still do what makes me laugh and what makes me laugh is often fucked up. And it's often, you know, it's not always fucked up in a way that, you know, it's going to get me thrown off something. But like, I think pushing certain buttons is funny to me, so I got to keep doing that. Part of the problem is that so many of the lines are blurred, right? So you have comedians that are commentators and commentators that are comedians and politicians. So it's like, it's harder to get the defense of like, hey, I'm a comedian, leave me alone.”

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  11. “You have such faith that it's always going to be the people you dislike that are banned. It's always going to be, it's never going to be you. Man, you have so much faith in the government. You have so much faith in tech oligarchs you've never met. You have so much faith in the security state that they're going to always make the right decisions and they're not going to penalize people that shouldn't be penalized. To me, I'm like, wow. I've never had that much faith in any human being ever, including myself. I wouldn't want that power. I would start deplatforming people that I hate. Audi platform my aunt. You know what I mean? I would deplatform everyone I know. I mean, so that it's like such an insane power to give somebody like who gets heard? Who gets to speak?”

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  12. “Certainly, but I don't know if a permanent ban across the board on every social media. I mean, they banned them on Grindr. I mean, this is how hilarious, right? I mean, they banned them across the board on everything. I don't think he could get an Airbnb now, neither can I. But I don't think he can do anything. Again, I just look back, and there's so many people I'm very smart, intelligent friends that go, Yeah, but who cares? Yeah, but he's bad. Yeah, but blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but I don't like Milianopoulos. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you have such faith.”

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  13. “Always arguments being made for everything. A permanent ban seems to be an overreaction to me. He's the president of the United States. It also rearranges the power. Like whether you like him or hate him, love him or hate him. He was the president. We've elevated Twitter is now more powerful than the president. It's like, do you want that to be long-term the salute, the reality? Like now Jack at Twitter is more powerful than the president of the United States. Is that a good paradigm going forward? I don't know. I'm not listen, maybe give him a little time out for a few days. I think it timed out. A little spanking.”

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  14. “That being said, it's coupled with no real work or action. So it's not coupled with anything behind it. He just wants to, we did an episode of my podcast once where it's like essentially he's like criticizing the deep seat. He wants a deeper state. He wants a deeper state. Like he hired his daughter. Yeah. And her husband. I mean, this is not a guy that's interested in transparency and openness. He's a guy that would just prefer he wants to run the mafia state.”

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  15. “As long as they're storming the capital to prove the point that he thinks he won the election, he has no concern for these people, his followers. He leads them lambs to the slaughter, right? So that's not a respectable client. My favorite quality of Donald Trump is his willingness to call bullshit. So his willingness to call bullshit out. He doesn't play the game. When people say about Putin, Putin kills people, he goes, we kill a lot of people here too. He's willing and able to break the fourth wall and say things that no politician has ever said. He's willing to call out hypocrisy, you know, of course not his own, but the media, the members of the political establishment, that's a laudable quality. It's an entertaining quality, right? We all like it. I love to, I'm like, this guy's saying something that a lot of people want said.”

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  16. “So, my least favorite quality of Donald Trump, I think, because there's a few of them his. Lack of empathy, complete and total lack of empathy. I don't feel that he cares about human beings on any level. And I feel like that maybe should be a requirement, right? I mean, I don't think he cares. I think it's obvious that he doesn't care. I mean, he sent, you know, basically he's saying like they're in there. Mike Pence is in there. He knows that his people are going to try to get into a capital. I mean, those motherfuckers are not going to have jobs. They're going to go to federal prison. And he doesn't care.”

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  17. “He really feels like hey, have a good life. I'm going to get on a plane right now and fly to a castle I own in Marlago in Florida and really, I'm not going to think too much about you people outside of how I can get more attention in the future.”

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  18. “Was able to become president at the moment where we were about to have Hillary Clinton versus Jeff Bush. And I think Americans felt like this is now the oligarchy is spinning right in our face. You're not even making it feel like there's an appearance of democracy. We have two crime families vowing for control of the country every four years. Then there was this rogue kind of upstart guy that was really about himself. You know, Trump doesn't really care that much about the, I mean, really was summarized perfectly when he left and he just said, hey, have a good life. That's what he said before he got on Andrews Air Force Base.”

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  19. “No, Trump But like Warren Buffett is the opposite, right? Warren Buffett's like been married for a million years Lives in a little house in Omaha. But that's what I dissociate Trump. Like, I don't think about Warren Buff I don't think about these people. They're just guys that I've known forever that have you associate certain things with them, right? And Trump, we always associate with kind of vulgar Garish, new money, billionaire, married a lot, you know, casinos, Miss Universe pageants. But again, but it makes perfect sense that he really”

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  20. “Question. Well, he didn't, right? Because we didn't, he wasn't political until four years ago, right? He got political very quickly before, I mean, he was always firing off crazy tweets about where Obama was born or whatever. But he got into politics very quickly. And then he became the president, right? So it was like, I knew him as Donald Trump, this crazy New York City character, the host of the apprentice. I didn't think much about him. He was just constant. He was just this constant figures. I don't think much about Warren Buffett. Like I know, like Trump's like, he's married to a new showgirl all the time. And he's always opening another casino. He's on TV.”

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  21. “Of course. But where we are now in Los Angeles, these people are all good. Studio exact people that I, from what I understand, they treat everyone fairly and they're nice.”

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  22. “Model of politics and being like, is it right wing? Is it left wing? Is it what team am I on and what color am I wearing? It's very simplistic, but the reality is this is an empire. It's past its peak. We're in trouble.”

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  23. “How are factions in Washington DC that outlive any presidential administration? These are people that might work at the State Department. They might work at the Defense Department. These are people that are not always working officially in any government capacity. They might be private companies. They might be military contractors. They might be people at Boeing or Raytheon or General Dynamics. And they constitute a group of people that Trump kind of called the swamp, but Trump had really no interest in draining the swamp. But he articulated these things. And this is what it is. You have a lot of interested parties that have budgets that they want, big budgets. Everybody wants a budget in Washington. What it is. They want money. And these are the people who really control presidents. So this idea that the president is the B-end all has got to be smashed, which is why the horse race.”

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  24. “And there's a lot of financial gain to be had from that. So they're sneaking their information into the presentations that are going to the president. And then the president is now behaving and going, fuck, I don't want a bomb going off. We got to do what we got to do. Whatever version of that happens, that is really kind of what is happening. Whereas presidents are being controlled by forces that are outside of the political sphere, but very much still in it. And they have a lot of president. That's what the deep state is. You know, Trump, there's a lot of ridiculing Trump of going, the deep state doesn't exist. It absolutely exists. There's been books about it written by liberal journalists. The deep state is only a term for unelected largely”

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  25. “presentation for the president where you're just terrified every day and you don't want a terrorist attack on your watch now so why are they getting all this information because Lot of the people in Washington have an interest in perpetual constant ongoing warfare.”

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  26. “I think one of the reasons that Obama was maybe at a very close relationship with John Brennan, who was a CIA director, and Obama was very close with John Brennan, and Obama was very, you know, I think malleable to the extent that the CIA, and I've had CIA agents on my show, John Kiriaku, a guy who went to jail for exposing torture, was saying that you get into the Oval Office, all of a sudden you're having the presidential daily briefing every day, and the intelligence people come in and they go, listen, man, I mean, there's going to be a terrorist attack on your watch if you don't do X, Y, and Z. They go, we have, you know, they call it like blue book information, which is five levels above top secret. And they go like, hey, man, a guy in Iran at a cafe said he's blown everything up next week. And, you know, I mean, it's the same thing as Parlor. You don't know if it's true or not. But now the president's making decision on usually a lot of uncorroborated intelligence that goes into...”

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  27. “I think it's interesting about that, what's interesting about Obama because he's a very interesting study is that presidents are controlled in very different ways, right? You know, presidents can be controlled by different factors, power factions within Washington”

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  28. “In the 10 years that I've been politically conscious, just because I'm 35 and 20, no, I've probably been conscious for over two decades, but like Democrats have become Republicans, Republicans become Democrats. I remember when Ann Coulter said, we need to defend the George W. Bush when he said we need to go out and Christianize or, you know, modernize the Arab world. We need to democratize the Arab world. And then Ann Coulter backed Donald Trump. And all the right wing in America believed in nation building. They believed in going out and democratizing areas that might breed radical terrorists, whether it was Iraq or wherever you were going, toppling regimes and instituting new democratic norms in those countries. That was a right-wing point of view when I grew up. Then the right wing switched to we are going to be isolationist. We're going to take care of America first and foremost. We're not going to go into other countries. And then the Democrats, who when I grew up, were doves.”

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  29. “OJ's an interesting cat because you're like, he's very stable on Twitter. He's very like, he's like, let's take a look at it, guys. Like, we need more of his energy. That's what I'm trying to say. I know, like, yes, it was bad. He killed the woman and the waiter Was not for that. I wish he didn't do that, but the OG Simpson trial was such a fun thing.”

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  30. “Yeah, he did it my way. I mean, like, there's a benefit to that, and he seems like a very well adjusted person now. So, I mean, I don't know, how is that a fact? But it is a fact. And that's an uncomfortable fact.”

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  31. “But he's very kind now on Twitter and he makes very nice points about how we often get involved in the political process and he's on golf courses. And I like watching people golf. I don't do it, but I like watching them do it. And he's like an elder statesman because I remember him from the naked gun. And I choose to forgive him for whatever happened there, which I don't know. I choose to forgive him really for, I mean, obviously, you know, what they say is he cut his wife's head off, but I can look past that. Redeem him because he's very stable on Twitter and he's a good like I see all these people going crazy on Twitter and I'm like there's maybe OJ's lived a full life Think there's a benefit to that. There's a benefit to kind of living a full life.”

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  32. “That's a huge factor. We don't have a redemptive society. That's why I like O.J. Simpson, because O.J. Simpson, yes, he did a bad thing, supposedly.”

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  33. “I'm an ex drug addict. I know what it's like to go from being one thing to being another thing, right? I'm still a drug addict. If I would have used drugs right now or drink, I would still be addicted to them, right? I mean, it's not something that I can ever change about myself, but I know what it's like to go from one thing to another thing. So when you look at racism or whatever ism, homophobia, misogyny, whatever you're looking at, anti-Semitism, and you go, that's a fixed condition where nobody's ever going to be able to change. Nobody's ever going to be able to be rehabilitated. Nobody's ever going to be able to reimagine themselves in a different way. To me, you're just, you're throwing away someone and you're making them feel helpless and worthless. And that's going to lead to antisocial behavior that spills out into violence. We don't have a very redemptive society.”

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  34. “You could fall in with a bad crowd. That's the thing. You can just fall in. And it doesn't mean that there's not blame. You know, you're obviously you have agency. You're a person. But the idea that like you could be rehabilitated. You could do something stupid or you could fall into the great, you know, a group of people that are, and then in a few years, you could go, what the fuck was I doing?”

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  35. “And they're still nuts. But like the anger and the rage that's boiling to the surface of this society, does it come from the fact that across the board people in very different areas and with very different political beliefs feel like they are being fucked over and there's nothing they can do about it? That's what the baseline to me they look at the people that run the country and run the world whether they're tech titans, the guys that you talk to or whether they're people that run the government, whether they're people that run large banks, large media companies, the people that have created this kind of infrastructure that everyone lives in, these people are incredibly powerless. And when you push people to that point, logically, sadly, and unfortunately the next thing does seem to be. Be violence.”

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  36. “Why are they back in a big way? And why are people so fed up with the status quo that they're finding solace in the most extreme discredited theories of how to run and operate societies? Theories that have led to deaths of a lot of people. So to me, I'm like, If those people at the Capitol Yes, if they were going to work, if they were able to go out and drink at chili's, if they were able to get a fucking checkup, right? Like. If their job paid a little bit better, and I'm not saying this is all the reason, right? I'm sure that there's a lot of people there that are doing quite well.”

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  37. “This Just letting off. I agree. There doesn't seem to be, and this is when Trump got elected, and when you have whatever you have, right? Whether you have riots in Portland and Seattle, where you have the Antifa people doing crazy things, you have the people storming the capital, there never seems to be a ton of an examination of why these ideas are becoming popular. Why are people so angry? What is leading people to this? Why are we here? What about their lives is to the point where they need to show up at these places? And obviously there's always going to be people on the fringe. There'll always be the mentally unwell. There'll always be people that want to destroy society. But when you look at how popular large long discredited things, whether it's fascism, totalitarian communism, all of these things”

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  38. “You do it because they don't have much else again. If you gave them other things, you might say, Guy, you can go get a knee operation. Why don't you stop? But if they're working for wages and you haven't figured out a way to treat them, treat their cancer diagnosis. And they don't, like, I mean, life, you know, you gotta derive pleasure from something, right?”

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  39. “Because it's the thing that gives them they can laugh or they can release steam. And it is immature. It is stupid. It's not productive. It's not, you know. But at the end of the day, if you're not going to give people health insurance, you got to give them something. It's like when someone in this country dies and everyone disagrees with, right? Political figure, media figure. A lot of people dance on their grave online. And then everyone people go, and the other side will always do it. Like if a conservative dies and everyone goes, great, conservatives goes, this is grotesque that you. And then when RBG dies, they all have parties. And the conservatives go, great. You have to let people in this country enjoy the deaths of their enemies.”

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  40. “This is a joke because I'm blowing off steam and I'm angry. Do you know how many people that my parent, like my dad's like, I'm going to fucking kill this guy? My mom's like, I'm going to fucking kill. They were talking about each other. It's but none of it ever happened, but we should be. I think you have to create a space for people to threaten to overthrow the government. As long as they don't violently do it? Like, I mean, does that make any sense? Like, I mean, as long as they're not going to go hurt innocent people, what are you going to do? Like, there's so many people out there that's why a lot of these things, like, you know, 4chan, these sites, a lot of people going on there, they just want to say the most fucked up shit.”

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  41. “They don't have any political power. They don't have any economic power, right? They can't throw their money around. They don't have healthcare. Their job security isn't great. They might be living in a community that doesn't have the resources. They would like it to have. They're not happy and thrilled. And then they have these sites where they can go on and just say, man, I'd like to fucking burn it all down and distinguishing a guy blowing off steam and saying wild stuff from a genuine threat. Is a very hard thing to do. You know, like I've threatened to kill, I got banned from Airbnb. I threatened to kill the people that banned me comedically. Comedically. This is a joke. I'm not going to kill you”

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  42. “So I do want to just kind of put that out as a defense of them. Listen, I'm sure there was some wild shit going on in parlor, and I think the problem, here's the problem, right? There's a lot of people that just want to go on these sites and say they want to kill everyone. And the problem is, you know, at what point do you shut the mole down? Like, I think a lot of people are just living in a world where they're powerless.”

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  43. “Well, in fairness too, to defend the people at the cap. They didn't shoot the cop. They bludgeoned him to death with a fire extinguisher.”

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  44. “I think there needs to be a process for people to defend themselves. Every day I wake up and I go, is something I said in a video going to get taken out of context? Is somebody going to get angry? Is somebody going to be, you know, I say wild stuff because that's what makes me laugh. That's what makes my friends laugh. And that's what makes my audience laugh. So I never ever people, you know, whatever political side you come down on, I think if you make your living speaking, That's odd”

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  45. “Platforms, obviously, the people that own these platforms are going to be like, we're not going to allow this to happen. So I understand that there is a line, right? There is some, like people that say there's no line aren't really thinking. Like there is a line. That line seems to be moving all the time. And it seems to be a very hard thing to police. But I don't think you can remove a guy off everything and then also bank accounts won't give him debit cards or credit cards. I don't know if you talked to him about that. But like, you know, there were financial institutions that were refusing to let him, you know, park his money there. So, I mean, it really does get pretty.”

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  46. “Process that you can go through than just being unilaterally taken off something. But like, then you run into the am I going to say that everyone deserves, no, if you're threatening or harassing people or threatening to kill them publishing their private information, if you're committing crimes on these.”

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  47. “I don't think that if you are a private company, right? I do think, and this is where you run into this problem, like I don't know if these tech companies were government utilities, would that decrease people's likelihood of being banned? I don't know, right? So I understand the benefit of them being treated like public utilities and people thinking they have the right to a Twitter. I've never, I don't know, I have very little confidence. I mean, the government is trying to roll out a vaccine in California and we vaccinated like five people. I mean, in terms of what we need to do in the state, right? So maybe if it was a government utility, I do think someone like Alex, like there should be some process. So if you're going to get rid of someone, they should have a way to defend themselves. There should be more democratic”

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  48. “He blew up, and then people started looking at the things that he was associated with. The Sandy Hook thing is a blemish on his record. I do believe he regrets it. But again, I do see the point of the families who are like, dude, fuck this guy forever. This is the worst thing I ever went through. It's a very tough. I understand the people that say that. I understand and I understand the people that go when you coordinate, when you have tech companies that act in a coordinated manner to just get rid of someone, they don't have any way to defend themselves. It's a little terrifying when you think about that power being abused and how wouldn't it be?”

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  49. “I think Alex became very controversial when he decided to back Donald Trump. And then he has a considerable following and a considerable audience that he was then able to marshal in the direction of supporting Donald Trump. That was when the spotlight, because then he was talking to Trump, Trump did his show. Alex Jones just got bigger, right? I mean, he blew up. That's the term, right? You blew off. Like he had the good, he put out the good HBO special, whatever you want to call it. He has a hit song. Yeah.”

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  50. “I could be wrong about this embrace white nationalism or identitarianism. I've never seen him really go anti-Semitic. I've never seen him take that route. When I grew up and I would turn him on every now and then, he was talking about NAFTA, the WTO. He's talking about 9-11. He was talking about the World Trade Organizations and a lot of these big conferences, whether it was the Bilderberg Group, whether it was Bohemia Grove, which he infiltrated. And he was talking about, hey, here are the most powerful people in the world. Here's what they're doing. And here's how it affects you. And that was interesting to me because no one else was really talking about it except Alex Jones, occasionally Art Bell on WABC. You'd listen to him at night, right?”

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